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Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by MrSly(m): 10:15pm On Apr 23, 2025
Maxymilliano:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AbAait7of/
If the current inflation is capture we will weep for what Tinubu has done to Nigeria.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by 004gist: 10:20pm On Apr 23, 2025
Paramount01:
Pls tell me the economic gain made under Jonathan?

Many of you are just following without thinking.
Obj handed over debt free nation to Jonathan ,
Jonathan enjoy increased in oil output and sales making him generate more money than other former head of state combine together.
Obj left $67 billion in reserve.
Jonathan squander everything still left debt if $7trillin with 23 states unable to pay salary.
.
You didn't see 53+% on that page 1

Secondly stop saying Jonathan squared every penny. Rather obj left about 3.5 billion dollars debt uncleared before Yar'Adua came in.

Due to 2018/2019 global economic shock and the CBN trying to defend the economy at all cost reserve went down to about 34 billion.

Through out Jonathan period oil sold for little above 50 Dollars per barrels and only a few months it crossed 100 shortly before coming down.


Buhari enjoyed much oil revenue. As oil price went from 64 barrel in 2015 to 84 and 100 by 2023.
Buhari took our loan from 10 billion to about 40+ billion dollars before he left and didn't add anything to our Gross domestic product and rather shrink it about -3% and pushed us into recession for the first time since 1984 when he left power in 1984.

Nigeria experienced recession twice only in Buhari regime that tells u how terrible he is

Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by kolente:
He is well, very well self.

Countries devalue their currencies for strategic reasons.

The "Detty December" breakthrough was as a direct result of the devaluation of the Naira against other world currencies including smaller African CFA zone currencies.

In the last Four (4) months the positioning of Real Estate and hospitality in Nigeria for the next " Detty December" gives an indication that Global investors have identified the Tourism potential of Nigeria.

Devaluation of the Naira has also encouraged backward integration in production of goods and services.

Shoe manufactures in Aba- Abia state are having a field day as the cost of foreign imported shoes are an average of N70k- N500k per pair, However standard Aba made shoes fall within the affordable range of N35k- N50k per pair with assurances of durability better than the made-in-china shoes.

The Naira Devaluation has raised a new set of multi-millionaires especially businessmen who thrive in a quasi-unregulated price market like that of Nigeria.

Unregulated pricing is done with the excuse of inflated goods whilst the margin per unit is sometimes as high as 500% for the importers.





DMerciful:
You well so?
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Dougad: 10:32pm On Apr 23, 2025
Daisyle:
Naira devaluation really caused our GDP to drop, but experts say it will be beneficial to our economy in the long run.
Without a considerable rise in exports to take advantage of the devaluation, we'll be even worse off.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Dougad: 10:35pm On Apr 23, 2025
Paramount01:
Pls tell me the economic gain made under Jonathan?

Many of you are just following without thinking.
Obj handed over debt free nation to Jonathan ,
Jonathan enjoy increased in oil output and sales making him generate more money than other former head of state combine together.
Obj left $67 billion in reserve.
Jonathan squander everything still left debt if $7trillin with 23 states unable to pay salary.
Jonathan was an awful president because of the corruption under his watch. Buhari was a 100x worse.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Gboss247(m): 10:42pm On Apr 23, 2025
Daisyle:
Naira devaluation really caused our GDP to drop, but experts say it will be beneficial to our economy in the long run.
It will only be beneficial when the government encourage production and exportation of goods and services and spending tax payers money to look for non-existent foreign investors while giving the masses false hope of importing non-existent cheaper agricultural products.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Ofemannnu: 10:47pm On Apr 23, 2025
Cosmetic GDP that required Nigeria borrowing money to pay its workers as narrated by Okonjo Iweala in 2014 even with the humongous revenue Nigeria made from oil.
It means that it was a fake GDP.

Right now,all states and Nigeria as a whole can easily pay their workers and still have a lot left to build infrastructures.
This new GDP will be times 10 in a few years under Tinubu.
By 2030,Nigeria will be surpassing the 1 trillion dollar mark as the biggest economy in Africa and one of the top 10 in the world by 2031.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by obailala(m): 10:49pm On Apr 23, 2025
MrRichmond:
2027 is not far again.

The elites are gathering around tinubu, let's see if the masses will be dumb enough to follow them again.
The masses are forever dumb, the black man has a fundamental IQ problem! Regardless of rigging and vote buying, Tinubu will still have millions vote for and defend him beyond 2027.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 10:49pm On Apr 23, 2025
Next time vote for clever, wise, intelligent leaders! Not "powerful" brainless characters.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by DavidMm: 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2025
Okay, let's break this down. If the value of currency B is now one-third of its exchange rate versus the dollar a year ago, it means:

Last year, 1 unit of currency B bought $X dollars.
This year, 1 unit of currency B buys X/3 dollars.
Or, looking at it from the dollar perspective:

Last year, $1 bought Y units of currency B.
This year, $1 buys $3Y units of currency B (because you need three times more B to get the same dollar).
Now, let's consider the country's GDP. GDP is typically measured first in the local currency (currency B). Let's say the country's GDP in currency B was GDP
B

both last year and this year, based on your "all else equal" assumption which implies the volume of goods and services produced and their prices in local currency haven't changed.  

To get the GDP in dollars, you convert the local currency GDP using the exchange rate:

GDP
dollar

=GDP
currencyB

×(Exchange Rate in dollars per unit of currency B)

Let's apply this:

Last Year: GDP
dollar_old

=GDP
B

×X
This Year: GDP
dollar_new

=GDP
B

×(X/3)
Now, compare the new dollar GDP to the old dollar GDP:

GDP
dollar_new

=GDP
B

×(X/3)=(GDP
B

×X)/3=GDP
dollar_old

/3

So, mathematically, if the nominal GDP measured in local currency remains exactly the same (GDP
B

is constant), and the only change is that the exchange rate of currency B to the dollar falls to one-third of its previous value, then the country's GDP measured in dollars would indeed also be one-third of what it used to be.

However, the "all else equal" assumption is highly unlikely to hold in reality when a currency loses two-thirds of its value. A drastic currency depreciation like this would have significant impacts on the local economy:

Inflation: Import costs would skyrocket, leading to higher prices for many goods and services within the country. This would likely increase the nominal GDP measured in currency B, even if the real output (volume of goods and services) doesn't change much.
Changes in Output: Exports might become cheaper and potentially increase, while imports become more expensive and likely decrease. Domestic consumption and investment could also be affected by the resulting economic uncertainty and inflation.
Debt Burden: If the country or its businesses have dollar-denominated debt, the cost of servicing and repaying it in local currency terms triples, potentially leading to defaults and financial instability, which would negatively impact local GDP.
Confidence and Capital Flows: A sharp currency drop can trigger capital flight and reduce investor confidence, impacting economic activity.  
Because of these real-world effects, the GDP
B

figure itself would almost certainly not remain the same. It would likely increase due to inflation but could decrease due to reduced real economic activity caused by the crisis.

Therefore, while the mechanical conversion using the new exchange rate would result in the dollar GDP being one-third (assuming local GDP is unchanged), in reality, the actual dollar-measured GDP would be the result of both the exchange rate fall and the complex changes in the local currency GDP caused by the economic shock. The actual outcome could be a fall to roughly one-third, more than one-third, or less than one-third, depending on the magnitude of inflation and the change in real economic activity in local currency terms.

But based purely on the isolated effect described in your question and the "all else equal" assumption (meaning GDP
B

is constant), the dollar-measured GDP would fall to one-third.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2025
Ofemannnu:
Cosmetic GDP that required Nigeria borrowing money to pay its workers as narrated by Okonjo Iweala in 2014 even with the humongous revenue Nigeria made from oil.
It means that it was a fake unsustainable GDP.

Right now,all states and Nigeria as a whole can easily pay their workers and still have a lot left to build infrastructures.
This new GDP will be times 10 in a few years under Tinubu.
By 2030,Nigeria will be surpassing the 1 trillion dollar mark as the biggest economy in Africa and one of the top 10 in the world by 2031.
What of per capita of $800 down from $2200?

PBAT has made sure that today average Nigerians can no longer afford the basic needs of man like food, clothing, shelter! these are the basic necessities of life.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Greatness09: 10:53pm On Apr 23, 2025
Na statistics we go chophuh? “In Tinubu voice” 😂😃😂😃😂🙏
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Paramount01(m): 10:57pm On Apr 23, 2025
004gist:
.
You didn't see 53+% on that page 1

Secondly stop saying Jonathan squared every penny. Rather obj left about 3.5 billion dollars debt uncleared before Yar'Adua came in.

Due to 2018/2019 global economic shock and the CBN trying to defend the economy at all cost reserve went down to about 34 billion.

Through out Jonathan period oil sold for little above 50 Dollars per barrels and only a few months it crossed 100 shortly before coming down.


Buhari enjoyed much oil revenue. As oil price went from 64 barrel in 2015 to 84 and 100 by 2023.
Buhari took our loan from 10 billion to about 40+ billion dollars before he left and didn't add anything to our Gross domestic product and rather shrink it about -3% and pushed us into recession for the first time since 1984 when he left power in 1984.

Nigeria experienced recession twice only in Buhari regime that tells u how terrible he is
I am trying to get where you see where Buhari enjoy oil revenue ,pls if you can bring it it will appreciate.

Goodluck Jonathan served as President of Nigeria from 2010 to 2015. During his tenure, crude oil prices fluctuated significantly. While I couldn't find the exact average crude oil price under his administration, here are some reference points¹ ²:
- *2011*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $111 per barrel
- *2012*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $112 per barrel
- *2013*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $108 per barrel
- *2014*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $99 per barrel, with a significant drop towards the end of the year

Considering these fluctuations, a study on the impact of crude oil price on exchange rate in Nigeria (1983-2017) mentions an average crude oil price of $42.918 during a specific period, but without specifying the exact years within Jonathan's term. However, given the price trends in 2011-2014, it's likely the average price during his term was around $100-110 per barrel.³

That is meta Ai about the price, Jonathan saw increase crude oil output of 2million per barrel per day and average of $100 per barren against Buhari that is as low as $50 per barren.
Yet Jonathan left big debt and delapitated reserve fir Buhari.Jonathan is a disasters

Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by DavidMm: 11:00pm On Apr 23, 2025
DavidMm:
Okay, let's break this down. If the value of currency B is now one-third of its exchange rate versus the dollar a year ago, it means:

Last year, 1 unit of currency B bought $X dollars.
This year, 1 unit of currency B buys X/3 dollars.
Or, looking at it from the dollar perspective:

Last year, $1 bought Y units of currency B.
This year, $1 buys $3Y units of currency B (because you need three times more B to get the same dollar).
Now, let's consider the country's GDP. GDP is typically measured first in the local currency (currency B). Let's say the country's GDP in currency B was GDP
B

both last year and this year, based on your "all else equal" assumption which implies the volume of goods and services produced and their prices in local currency haven't changed.  

To get the GDP in dollars, you convert the local currency GDP using the exchange rate:

GDP
dollar

=GDP
currencyB

×(Exchange Rate in dollars per unit of currency B)

Let's apply this:

Last Year: GDP
dollar_old

=GDP
B

×X
This Year: GDP
dollar_new

=GDP
B

×(X/3)
Now, compare the new dollar GDP to the old dollar GDP:

GDP
dollar_new

=GDP
B

×(X/3)=(GDP
B

×X)/3=GDP
dollar_old

/3

So, mathematically, if the nominal GDP measured in local currency remains exactly the same (GDP
B

is constant), and the only change is that the exchange rate of currency B to the dollar falls to one-third of its previous value, then the country's GDP measured in dollars would indeed also be one-third of what it used to be.

However, the "all else equal" assumption is highly unlikely to hold in reality when a currency loses two-thirds of its value. A drastic currency depreciation like this would have significant impacts on the local economy:

Inflation: Import costs would skyrocket, leading to higher prices for many goods and services within the country. This would likely increase the nominal GDP measured in currency B, even if the real output (volume of goods and services) doesn't change much.
Changes in Output: Exports might become cheaper and potentially increase, while imports become more expensive and likely decrease. Domestic consumption and investment could also be affected by the resulting economic uncertainty and inflation.
Debt Burden: If the country or its businesses have dollar-denominated debt, the cost of servicing and repaying it in local currency terms triples, potentially leading to defaults and financial instability, which would negatively impact local GDP.
Confidence and Capital Flows: A sharp currency drop can trigger capital flight and reduce investor confidence, impacting economic activity.  
Because of these real-world effects, the GDP
B

figure itself would almost certainly not remain the same. It would likely increase due to inflation but could decrease due to reduced real economic activity caused by the crisis.

Therefore, while the mechanical conversion using the new exchange rate would result in the dollar GDP being one-third (assuming local GDP is unchanged), in reality, the actual dollar-measured GDP would be the result of both the exchange rate fall and the complex changes in the local currency GDP caused by the economic shock. The actual outcome could be a fall to roughly one-third, more than one-third, or less than one-third, depending on the magnitude of inflation and the change in real economic activity in local currency terms.

But based purely on the isolated effect described in your question and the "all else equal" assumption (meaning GDP
B

is constant), the dollar-measured GDP would fall to one-third.
The true size of the Nigerian economy measured in our local currency is at the very least 7 times what the dollar value is and at least 2X what it was at the end of PMB's 2nd term. Dependency on imports for basic needs such as food, education and healthcare are the issues. Local production using local content and domestication of production would in time reveal the gains of this current pain--the rebirth pains of a nation!
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by psalmsjob: 11:24pm On Apr 23, 2025
Hemanwel:
With all these abysmal economic performance, somebody still wants to force himself on Nigerians in 2027. Kolewerk!

All these gale of defections to the ruling party can't move us! At the fullness of time, when the major opposition candidate is unveiled, we will start vigorous campaign against the incumbent!
I'm laughing in Chinese grin

Try to also calculate the number of projects ongoing in relation to other administrations. And Nigeria economy didn't start from 2010 why not start from 1999 when Obj was there so that we can see what it was before GEJ so you can see that he didn't try at all. They were stealing,more than half of those monies at the time. Money on paper. 30 bill missing up and down. The money stolen under the clueless man is still being repatriated some are gone for good already. So make una michunu grin
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by 004gist:
Paramount01:
I am trying to get where you see where Buhari enjoy oil revenue ,pls if you can bring it it will appreciate.

Goodluck Jonathan served as President of Nigeria from 2010 to 2015. During his tenure, crude oil prices fluctuated significantly. While I couldn't find the exact average crude oil price under his administration, here are some reference points¹ ²:
- *2011*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $111 per barrel
- *2012*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $112 per barrel
- *2013*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $108 per barrel
- *2014*: Brent crude oil prices averaged around $99 per barrel, with a significant drop towards the end of the year

Considering these fluctuations, a study on the impact of crude oil price on exchange rate in Nigeria (1983-2017) mentions an average crude oil price of $42.918 during a specific period, but without specifying the exact years within Jonathan's term. However, given the price trends in 2011-2014, it's likely the average price during his term was around $100-110 per barrel.³

That is meta Ai about the price, Jonathan saw increase crude oil output of 2million per barrel per day and average of $100 per barren against Buhari that is as low as $50 per barren.
Yet Jonathan left big debt and delapitated reserve fir Buhari.Jonathan is a disasters
I guess oil that was selling for 60 to 90 dollars per barrels was the reason Buhari borrowed over 30 billion dollars before he left and
GDP didn't add for good 8 years while Jonathan that did just 4 years record 53%+

Obasanjo saved excess crude oil money as result of surplus in budget because of oil increases. Buhari did sell oill above budget benchmark where is the money saved? With all their shouting before 2015 we thought they could save 60 billion excess crude money. I remember oshomole and co

Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by TOMMYS: 11:39pm On Apr 23, 2025
004gist:
The CHANGE is clear

Buhari was a big mistake Nigerians made in 2015.

All economic gains OBJ, Yar'Adua made wiped out.
The one Good luck consolidated wipde out



Tinubu sank Nigeria deeper into mess.

When the economy is doing well over the some years they bring in someone to destroy it.
The best bet in a core northerner this set of people believe in taking all there is.

Tinubu will probably hand over to an Hausa man from the middle belt. Not Fulani or kanuri.


Average Nigerian worker that can stand shoulder to shoulder with European counterpart in 2009 today lecturers , bankers, civil servant are resigning running to Europe, African countries.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Achor1111(m): 11:39pm On Apr 23, 2025
And some idiots will come and insult GEJ
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Mccullum: 11:41pm On Apr 23, 2025
IMF just doing rubbish of theoretical analysis without understanding the practical part of the economy.
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Mccullum: 11:41pm On Apr 23, 2025
IMF just doing rubbish of theoretical analysis without understanding the practical part of the economy.#
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by SarkinYarki: 12:03am On Apr 24, 2025
Daisyle:
Naira devaluation really caused our GDP to drop, but experts say it will be beneficial to our economy in the long run.
You no fit get sense again
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by IGBOPROMISE1: 12:05am On Apr 24, 2025
MrRichmond:
2027 is not far again.

The elites are gathering around tinubu, let's see if the masses will be dumb enough to follow them again.
Even as i believe the Nigerian electorate are largely docile and easily susceptible to inducement, i’m sorry to tell you that their votes wouldn’t count in 2027 presidential election! All you see him doing now is perfecting plans for rigging the electoral process (from PVC collection right up to the appeals process), and he needs just a handful of heavyweight political acolytes and political minions in each of the 6 regions and each of the ‘important’ states of Lagos, Kano and Rivers for his plans to succeed! I’m afraid it has nothing to do with vote or no vote!
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Habib101: 12:37am On Apr 24, 2025
Oh boy as the name sounds bola him done give the economy a nice blow for nose like gbosa like in a boxing match u know say if person receive that kind blow for ring or outside e go hard small for him to recover back to his consciousness to continue fighting
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by MasterMariner: 1:12am On Apr 24, 2025
It shall not be well with all those who brought these bunch of failures call Apc upon this Country.

It shall not be well with Apc either!

mohbadliveson:
How i seriously long for the Jonathan years. God punish all those who deceived us with change
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Anguldi(m): 3:13am On Apr 24, 2025
Daisyle:
Naira devaluation really caused our GDP to drop, but experts say it will be beneficial to our economy in the long run.
You are right, the issue is that no one trust the druggie. Both diasporans and investors have issues with Tinubu image 🤦
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Anguldi(m): 3:25am On Apr 24, 2025
004gist:
.
You didn't see 53+% on that page 1

Secondly stop saying Jonathan squared every penny. Rather obj left about 3.5 billion dollars debt uncleared before Yar'Adua came in.

Due to 2018/2019 global economic shock and the CBN trying to defend the economy at all cost reserve went down to about 34 billion.

Through out Jonathan period oil sold for little above 50 Dollars per barrels and only a few months it crossed 100 shortly before coming down.


Buhari enjoyed much oil revenue. As oil price went from 64 barrel in 2015 to 84 and 100 by 2023.
Buhari took our loan from 10 billion to about 40+ billion dollars before he left and didn't add anything to our Gross domestic product and rather shrink it about -3% and pushed us into recession for the first time since 1984 when he left power in 1984.

Nigeria experienced recession twice only in Buhari regime that tells u how terrible he is
Excess crude account was depleted under gej
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by HenryThegreat1(m): 4:43am On Apr 24, 2025
Too bad
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by Abloh: 5:06am On Apr 24, 2025
DMerciful:
You call 50% GEJ GDP increase small? You hate Jonathan or what?
crude oil GDP
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by 004gist:
Anguldi:
Excess crude account was depleted under gej
How much was saved under Buhari and Tinubu regime?
GEJ did 4 years but Buhari 8 years. Did we hear about excess crude money? Tinubu is now president and how much has been saved?

Remember they have removed subsidy.

Buhari shrank our economy for 8 good years gross domestic product didn't increase but shrank and Tinubu came and half it. So much for change

And people will still vote for them? See how people are resigning their jobs, selling properties to leave Nigeria by all means. Go to Facebook and see people seeking for ways to leave. Has it happened before? That a whole bank manager will resign to be cleaner in the UK, a whole lecturer will resign and be cleaner in uk? How

On the table we are dragging space with Angola now in Africa. Egypt, South Africa and Algeria.. Little countries with soo small a population has surpass us in all rounds
Re: Nigeria's Economy In 18 Years - The Cable Index by DMerciful(m): 5:51am On Apr 24, 2025
You are shameless
Abloh:
crude oil GDP
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