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Ideologies and the future of humanity.

A major downside of civilization or city living is religion or ideologies in general. Religion is spiritual ideology while other non spiritual ideologies exist. If people are not living together in great numbers, there will be little opportunity to brainwash them in any particular direction. They would be more of freethinkers.
We are a collaborative species. We advance greatly by working together. For us, it is a case of if one can solve one hundred problems, then two working together will be able to solve ten thousand. That is the multiplier effect of collaboration.
Nothing is more poisonous to civilization than ideologies and ideologies thrive when people live together in great numbers and unless people live together in great numbers and collaborate accordingly, advancement will be slow. People fight and kill each other over ideologies.
Ideologies were not prominent on Earth before the coming or outbreak of Christianity. I can hardly think of anything that drove people to hate, fight and kill each other outside the control of territory before religion. Before Christianity, wars were fought largely only over territory.
Since Christianity we have had non spiritual ideologies like Capitalism and socialism in the economic or nation building sector added to the fray for which people died during the cold war.
As a community, we must be on the lookout for ideologies to be able to nip them in the bud before they fester because they are like brain cancer. A good starting point is to teach kids to question everything.

lawani:
Ideologies and the future of humanity.

A major downside of civilization or city living is religion or ideologies in general. Religion is spiritual ideology while other non spiritual ideologies exist. If people are not living together in great numbers, there will be little opportunity to brainwash them in any particular direction. They would be more of freethinkers.
We are a collaborative species. We advance greatly by working together. For us, it is a case of if one can solve one hundred problems, then two working together will be able to solve ten thousand. That is the multiplier effect of collaboration.
Nothing is more poisonous to civilization than ideologies and ideologies thrive when people live together in great numbers and unless people live together in great numbers and collaborate accordingly, advancement will be slow. People fight and kill each other over ideologies.
Ideologies were not prominent on Earth before the coming or outbreak of Christianity. I can hardly think of anything that drove people to hate, fight and kill each other outside the control of territory before religion. Before Christianity, wars were fought largely only over territory.
Since Christianity we have had non spiritual ideologies like Capitalism and socialism in the economic or nation building sector added to the fray for which people died during the cold war.
As a community, we must be on the lookout for ideologies to be able to nip them in the bud before they fester because they are like brain cancer. A good starting point is to teach kids to question everything.

The bolded comment is deeply false.

If you have a problem with Christianity, it's fine, but that shouldn't lead you to spew out falsehoods.

From a historical perspective, Christianity was on the receiving end for the most part of the Roman empire until the tide turned in their favour with the conversion of the Roman Emperor.

Unlike Islam, Christianity has the credit of outgrowing it's violent phase of evolution. Something which Islam has consciously refused to do.

If your African traditional religion was easily uprooted by Christianity (even though Islam came to Nigeria first and has been problematic ever since) then you should question the potency of your professed beliefs.

HeatSeeker:
The bolded comment is deeply false.

If you have a problem with Christianity, it's fine, but that shouldn't lead you to spew out falsehoods.

From a historical perspective, Christianity was on the receiving end for the most part of the Roman empire until the tide turned in their favour with the conversion of the Roman Emperor.

Unlike Islam, Christianity has the credit of outgrowing it's violent phase of evolution. Something which Islam has consciously refused to do.

If your African traditional religion was easily uprooted by Christianity (even though Islam came to Nigeria first and has been problematic ever since) then you should question the potency of your professed beliefs.

False?. How?. Do you know any other thing people fought wars over apart from territory before the outbreak of Christianity?. I agree with you on the history of Christianity. Before blaming Islam, realize that Mohammed believed in the virgin birth and prophet hood of Jesus Christ. This can only mean he was converted by Christians. He only formed his own sect by adding his own flavor. The foundation of Islam is Christianity

Christians are still violent. It is just coded. They ostracize people who leave the fold and the desperate ones among them use assassins on opponents

lawani:
False?. How?. Do you know any other thing people fought wars over apart from territory before the outbreak of Christianity?. I agree with you on the history of Christianity. Before blaming Islam, realize that Mohammed believed in the virgin birth and prophet hood of Jesus Christ. This can only mean he was converted by Christians. He only formed his own sect by adding his own flavor. The foundation of Islam is Christianity

Christians are still violent. It is just coded. They ostracize people who leave the fold and the desperate ones among them use assassins on opponents

Please...

Wars have been fought in the name of God since time immemorial. There was nothing new with the Christian spin on it and when it became too much, the Christians jettisoned the idea completely. The Islamists on the other hand have refused to let it go.

African traditional religion has run its course in the consciousness of the African. No matter how much people like you cling to it for its "so called" wisdom, the fact remains that it failed to protect its adherents from invasion of foreign religious ideas and slavery.

The truth is bitter.

HeatSeeker:
Please...

Wars have been fought in the name of God since time immemorial. There was nothing new with the Christian spin on it and when it became too much, the Christians jettisoned the idea completely. The Islamists on the other hand have refused to let it go.

African traditional religion has run its course in the consciousness of the African. No matter how much people like you cling to it for its "so called" wisdom, the fact remains that it failed to protect its adherents from invasion of foreign religious ideas and slavery.

The truth is bitter.

No war was ever fought in the name of God before Christianity. Check again. It started with Christianity. However I am not counting Judaism because they don't proselytize. Jews also killed on behalf of God but it was also to seize territory as well.

lawani:
No war was ever fought in the name of God before Christianity. Check again. It started with Christianity. However I am not counting Judaism because they don't proselytize. Jews also killed on behalf of God but it was also to seize territory as well.

Only politics leads to wars no religion has that in their agenda but when politicians wants to have their way they can use anything within their reach.

The founder of Christianity said to his followers:

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:31

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Luke 6:27-28

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:35-35

If after all these you still think people are killing people for this man then you are a joker!

lawani:
No war was ever fought in the name of God before Christianity. Check again. It started with Christianity. However I am not counting Judaism because they don't proselytize. Jews also killed on behalf of God but it was also to seize territory as well.

Thr ancient Sumerians, Mesopotamians, Egyptians, and even the Babylonians conquered nations in the name of their gods. Holy wars have been fought numerous times before the Christians became prominent. This your line of argument is because you were conquered by the Abrahamic faithful and you can't live with it.

HeatSeeker:
Thr ancient Sumerians, Mesopotamians, Egyptians, and even the Babylonians conquered nations in the name of their gods. Holy wars have been fought numerous times before the Christians became prominent. This your line of argument is because you were conquered by the Abrahamic faithful and you can't live with it.

Jihads and crusades are innovations of Islam and Christianity. Before then when cultures encounter each other, their spirituality can rub off on each other especially if one is learning the other's language but they never did believe or perish. There was no proselytizing. There was no abandon your theology and follow mine or else God will deal with you. That started with Christianity.

In Europe there is a saying 'The Saxon's choice- Baptism or death. 100k people were burnt at the stakes in Europe for being witches practicing wiccan

MaxInDHouse:
Only politics leads to wars no religion has that in their agenda but when politicians wants to have their way they can use anything within their reach.

The founder of Christianity said to his followers:

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:31

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Luke 6:27-28

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:35-35

If after all these you still think people are killing people for this man then you are a joker!

Yes politicians use anything within their reach and if religion did not exist it would not be within their reach. Politicians don't indoctrinate, religious leaders do. Religion is just one new excuse for human beings to hate, fight and kill each other

lawani:
Yes politicians use anything within their reach and if religion did not exist it would not be within their reach. Politicians don't indoctrinate, religious leaders do. Religion is just one new excuse for human beings to hate, fight and kill each other

Ọmọ campaign for the eradication of money, eloquence, witchcraft, clubs and many more that politicians use for wooing followers.

Christianity is one of the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.

It's pretty simple, we ought to bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agricultural sciences, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, mining, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding e.t.c

These are our bread and butter and are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

These are the reasoning behind the facts that African people invented all the better things in life.

People should be allowed to practice religion but they should not be allowed to incorporate organizations to spread religion

lawani:
People should be allowed to practice religion but they should not be allowed to incorporate organizations to spread religion

Ọmọ nah NEPA be Nigeria's problem not religion jọọ!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ nah NEPA be Nigeria's problem not religion jọọ!

People are going off grid o...with cheap solar

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lawani:
People are going off grid o...with cheap solar

Can the solar work for companies that's employing people and giving them jobs to cater for their families?
Think of textile, steel, aluminum, food processing and many other manufacturing companies.
Can solar solve the problem?

MaxInDHouse:
Can the solar work for companies that's employing people and giving them jobs to cater for their families?
Think of textile, steel, aluminum, food processing and many other manufacturing companies.
Can solar solve the problem?

They are all going off grid but I don't know if they are all using solar. Even aso rock is going off grid with solar. Dangote is off grid already and many other big companies

lawani:
They are all going off grid but I don't know if they are all using solar. Even aso rock is going off grid with solar. Dangote is off grid already and many other big companies

Guy they are using generators and buying fuel that's why most of them are running at lost as they can't pay their staffs so those having conscience among them are leaving Nigeria instead of seeing their beloved staffs underpaid!

lawani:
Ideologies and the future of humanity.

A major downside of civilization or city living is religion or ideologies in general. Religion is spiritual ideology while other non spiritual ideologies exist. If people are not living together in great numbers, there will be little opportunity to brainwash them in any particular direction. They would be more of freethinkers.
We are a collaborative species. We advance greatly by working together. For us, it is a case of if one can solve one hundred problems, then two working together will be able to solve ten thousand. That is the multiplier effect of collaboration.
Nothing is more poisonous to civilization than ideologies and ideologies thrive when people live together in great numbers and unless people live together in great numbers and collaborate accordingly, advancement will be slow. People fight and kill each other over ideologies.
Ideologies were not prominent on Earth before the coming or outbreak of Christianity. I can hardly think of anything that drove people to hate, fight and kill each other outside the control of territory before religion. Before Christianity, wars were fought largely only over territory.
Since Christianity we have had non spiritual ideologies like Capitalism and socialism in the economic or nation building sector added to the fray for which people died during the cold war.
As a community, we must be on the lookout for ideologies to be able to nip them in the bud before they fester because they are like brain cancer. A good starting point is to teach kids to question everything.

I don't agree with this statement "Ideologies were not prominent on Earth before the coming or outbreak of Christianity". You can find several ideologies that predate the coming of Christianity both in Roman and Greek society. Even the Egyptians, Indians and Chinese have ideologies that predate the 1st century CE. However, I do agree the it is with the coming of Christianity and Islam that we start to see conquest in the name of religion or religious ideology. This was not something that was recorded before these religions came to be.

lawani:
They are all going off grid but I don't know if they are all using solar. Even aso rock is going off grid with solar. Dangote is off grid already and many other big companies

I'm 90% off the grid. In fact for the past 3 days now i haven't used AEDC power supply for anything.

LordReed:
I don't agree with this statement "Ideologies were not prominent on Earth before the coming or outbreak of Christianity". You can find several ideologies that predate the coming of Christianity both in Roman and Greek society. Even the Egyptians, Indians and Chinese have ideologies that predate the 1st century CE. However, I do agree the it is with the coming of Christianity and Islam that we start to see conquest in the name of religion or religious ideology. This was not something that was recorded before these religions came to be.

I am still researching. Can you give me examples of things people believe in and fight for apart from territory before Christianity?. Things like capitalism, socialism, Islam and Christianity. I did not say communism because I think it is just a no one left behind Eldorado which can be achieved in a free market system

LordReed:
I'm 90% off the grid. In fact for the past 3 days now i haven't used AEDC power supply for anything.

I see everybody off the grid in Nigeria in less than twenty years

MaxInDHouse:
Guy they are using generators and buying fuel that's why most of them are running at lost as they can't pay their staffs so those having conscience among them are leaving Nigeria instead of seeing their beloved staffs underpaid!

Google sun king. You can go off grid with less than 1.5 million naira

lawani:
I am still researching. Can you give me examples of things people believe in and fight for apart from territory before Christianity?. Things like capitalism, socialism, Islam and Christianity. I did not say communism because I think it is just a no one left behind Eldorado which can be achieved in a free market system

Understand what I wrote. I didn't say people fought for ideologies before Christianity, in fact I said the opposite. What I did say was ideologies EXISTED before Christianity. Aristotle is one notable Greek promoter of certain ideals. Also look up Confucius, a Chinese philosopher and the ideals he promoted.

lawani:
I see everybody off the grid in Nigeria in less than twenty years

I hope so, it could drive prices of certain goods down.

LordReed:
Understand what I wrote. I didn't say people fought for ideologies before Christianity, in fact I said the opposite. What I did say was ideologies EXISTED before Christianity. Aristotle is one notable Greek promoter of certain ideals. Also look up Confucius, a Chinese philosopher and the ideals he promoted.

I know there were philosophers but were there things they believed in and defended with their lives?. If none I don't think their teachings should be classed as ideologies

lawani:
I know there were philosophers but were there things they believed in and defended with their lives?. If none I don't think their teachings should be classed as ideologies

Which meaning of ideology means it must be defended with your life?

LordReed:
Which meaning of ideology means it must be defended with your life?

Ideology is actually to do with politics or economics. I am just the one extending it to spirituality because the followers behave the same way. That way of behaving is what I say did not exist in the past.

lawani:
Ideology is actually to do with politics or economics. I am just the one extending it to spirituality because the followers behave the same way. That way of behaving is what I say did not exist in the past.

But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that ideologies did not exist before Christianity.

LordReed:
But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that ideologies did not exist before Christianity.

Yes I said both spiritual and normal ideologies did not exist before Christianity. Ideology is rigidly insisting something is the absolute truth or the only way.