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Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Krismas(m): 9:11am On Apr 24, 2025
TenQ:
Thanks be to Trump, the saviour of Russia!
grin Dey wyne grin
When Biden was there, why couldn't he stop Russia from gaining 20% of Donbas?
When Zelensky saw Trump will unsit Biden, he went with Keir Stammer to the white house, to persuade Biden to strike Russia directly.
And Biden said NO!
Why couldn't Biden save Ukraine in 3yrs?
Ukraine is still being funded by the American congressional arrangement Biden left behind, so what has changed for Ukraine?
Biden told Keir Stammer to go strike Russia directly by himself. What is Keir Stammer waiting for? grin
Why is Britain France Germany not saving Ukraine?
So all your mumu boast about David vs Goliath, is based on America fighting in Ukraine?
Is it by force to fight another man's war?
Abi did Trump stop David from destroying Goliath? grin grin
What are you accusing Trump of?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by ledaman: 9:29am On Apr 24, 2025
Guestmale:
Russia didn't respect any rule of engagement because if they are, they wouldn't be bombing residential areas killing innocent Ukrainian children and unarmed citizens as they are presently doing.

Russia have deployed all sorts of weapons including long range missiles, while Ukraine was not permitted to use it until the twilight of Biden's regime. The only weapon Russia has not deployed is nuclear bomb.
lol Nuclear bomb you said grin
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Krismas(m): 9:49am On Apr 24, 2025
TenQ:
Trump doesn't like Zelensky one bit and this is his pound of flesh.
To him Zelensky shouldn't have started the war!

How!?
By abdicating from his presidency and surrendering Ukraine to Russia?
grin Wrong
Trump does not want to fight for Zelensky. Thats all.
Abi na by force to fight another man war? grin
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by verdad00: 10:02am On Apr 24, 2025
It's a shame that as big as you are you know nothing about international politics.

Mumu
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Krismas(m): 10:08am On Apr 24, 2025
Adakintroy:
The world is not about right or wrong, it's about strong vs weak. Most sponsors don't side t with unkrain because they love him, they do so because they hate Trump or Putin.


How long can you keep giving out resource to fuel a endless war is the question. What's in it for you?


Let the book record it that trump.said he wants peace.
grin Trump had initially wanted to declassify secret files on Russia, So the whole world can see all the LIES the Europeans and America have been telling against Russia for the last 12yrs.
Trump sees lots of secret stuffs alot of folks like TenQ will never see. Thats why he makes these decisions.
And he has asked the Europeans severally, where they think all this will lead?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Adakintroy: 10:46am On Apr 24, 2025
Krismas:
grin Trump had initially wanted to declassify secret files on Russia, So the whole world can see all the LIES the Europeans and America have been telling against Russia for the last 12yrs.
Trump sees lots of secret stuffs alot of folks like TenQ will never see. Thats why he makes these decisions.
And he has asked the Europeans severally, where they think all this will lead?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 11:49am On Apr 24, 2025
[quote author=Adakintroy post=135106303][/quote]In other words Trump is a Traitor to America!
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 11:51am On Apr 24, 2025
Krismas:
grin Trump had initially wanted to declassify secret files on Russia, So the whole world can see all the LIES the Europeans and America have been telling against Russia for the last 12yrs.
Trump sees lots of secret stuffs alot of folks like TenQ will never see. Thats why he makes these decisions.
And he has asked the Europeans severally, where they think all this will lead?
Trump has a personal vendetta against Zelensky and he cares nothing about him not Ukraine.


Otherwise,
What would have been the gain of Ukraine from his one sided "peace negotiations"
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 11:52am On Apr 24, 2025
Krismas:
grin Wrong
Trump does not want to fight for Zelensky. Thats all.
Abi na by force to fight another man war? grin
How is trump fighting for Zelensky?
How much is Zelensky paying him?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 12:00pm On Apr 24, 2025
Krismas:
grin Dey wyne grin
When Biden was there, why couldn't he stop Russia from gaining 20% of Donbas?
When Zelensky saw Trump will unsit Biden, he went with Keir Stammer to the white house, to persuade Biden to strike Russia directly.
And Biden said NO!
Why couldn't Biden save Ukraine in 3yrs?
Ukraine is still being funded by the American congressional arrangement Biden left behind, so what has changed for Ukraine?
Biden told Keir Stammer to go strike Russia directly by himself. What is Keir Stammer waiting for? grin
Why is Britain France Germany not saving Ukraine?
So all your mumu boast about David vs Goliath, is based on America fighting in Ukraine?
Is it by force to fight another man's war?
Abi did Trump stop David from destroying Goliath? grin grin
What are you accusing Trump of?
I shake my head when some people see injustice done to others as normal.

If you had been Zelensky,

1. Russia want you demilitarised
2. Russia wants you defenceless (no NATO)
3. Russia had taken Cremia in 2014
4. Now Russia wants the four Oblasts so that you will be cut off totally from the sea.
5. Russia want to remove you and put a puppet government in place
6. Russia says you can't even join EU for trading and market purposes.


This would have been perfectly OKAY for you, right!?

About Britain, France , Germany and even USA, they ALL with no exception do NOT want to risk a Nuclear war (with no winners) over a Baltic State like Ukraine who is not YET even a member of the EU not to talk of NATO!
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Guestmale: 1:02pm On Apr 24, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Shut your stinking mouth, you don't have to inflate figures just to prove a point.
You have said 350 billion before, now it's 450 billion. Even the US department of state that keeps the record of these things have reported less than 200. How daft and stupid can you be?
That's the trait and work of a self employed propagandist.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 1:50pm On Apr 24, 2025
Dear Krismas

I asked a very simple question



If you had been Zelensky,
1. Russia[i] want you demilitarised
2. Russia wants you defenceless (no NATO)
3. Russia had taken Cremia in 2014
4. Now Russia wants the four Oblasts so that you will be cut off totally from the sea.
5. Russia want to remove you and put a puppet government in place
6. Russia says you can't even join EU for trading and market purposes.[/i]

This would have been perfectly OKAY for you, right!?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by greypencils: 2:47pm On Apr 24, 2025
superlanny:
Zelensky, the comedian who became a president, a president who has become one of the greatest men in history.

Before this war started, ignoramuses said the war would end in less than a month and Putin was all that, powerful and merciless.

A few years down the line, Ukraine is still standing, fighting for its homeland, fighting against impunity and the madness of Putin.

Zelensky is a man that would die defending his people and he has done that without looking back. I hope NATO and Sensible European countries keep backing Ukraine in this war against Russia. Trump can continue to lick Putin's balls for all I care.

Slava Ukraine!!!
His people have been dying defending him. Not the other way round like you put it. If he had any regard for his people, he would end this war.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Moveittothem: 3:00pm On Apr 24, 2025
blacksam01:
Ok leme ask u this one question... What is American biggest export products ND sector that produces them...
Their biggest export is Crude Oil and refined petroleum.
Followed by civilian aircraft parts, and computer accessories.
Automobiles and pharmaceutical products even surpass their weapons export that is not even among their top 10 export.

Knowing exactly what you were thinking, even if selling weapons is their biggest export, do you think Ukraine were paying for it, or even promised to pay later?
They were seeing it as aid
There is no way Ukraine can win Russia in war even if US keeps giving them arms.
Their only chance is if USA allows them to start bombing Moscow with their own sophisticated weapons, which Russia would see as US aggression.
The war would escalate rapidly, and then enter a danger zone, which USA is seriously avoiding.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 4:47pm On Apr 24, 2025
Moveittothem:
Their biggest export is Crude Oil and refined petroleum.
Followed by civilian aircraft parts, and computer accessories.
Automobiles and pharmaceutical products even surpass their weapons export that is not even among their top 10 export.

Knowing exactly what you were thinking, even if selling weapons is their biggest export, do you think Ukraine were paying for it, or even promised to pay later?
They were seeing it as aid
There is no way Ukraine can win Russia in war even if US keeps giving them arms.
Their only chance is if USA allows them to start bombing Moscow with their own sophisticated weapons, which Russia would see as US aggression.
The war would escalate rapidly, and then enter a danger zone, which USA is seriously avoiding.
Did Russia win the Afghan war .? Why was it abandoned..?

And in all you listed as good export product...u don't think Ukraine can b a major export hub..?

America has alot to gain from supporting Ukraine....

And it will send a message to all of their threaten allies that the US will stand with u in term of need
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 4:47pm On Apr 24, 2025
Moveittothem:
Their biggest export is Crude Oil and refined petroleum.
Followed by civilian aircraft parts, and computer accessories.
Automobiles and pharmaceutical products even surpass their weapons export that is not even among their top 10 export.

Knowing exactly what you were thinking, even if selling weapons is their biggest export, do you think Ukraine were paying for it, or even promised to pay later?
They were seeing it as aid
There is no way Ukraine can win Russia in war even if US keeps giving them arms.
Their only chance is if USA allows them to start bombing Moscow with their own sophisticated weapons, which Russia would see as US aggression.
The war would escalate rapidly, and then enter a danger zone, which USA is seriously avoiding.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by WritterNg: 4:51pm On Apr 24, 2025
LordReed:
I mixed it up with a different offensive. The Kyiv push was bogged down because the whole was a logistics nightmare and the Ukrainians made it harder. Just imagine, just one border over and they couldn't get their ducks in a row.
Lies. Even CNN and co reported that they were ordered to return back.

You must think you're talking to a fellow dummy.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Moveittothem: 5:52pm On Apr 24, 2025
blacksam01:
Did Russia win the Afghan war .? Why was it abandoned..?

And in all you listed as good export product...u don't think Ukraine can b a major export hub..?

America has alot to gain from supporting Ukraine....

And it will send a message to all of their threaten allies that the US will stand with u in term of need
Oga, you don't know America and their interest more than The president of America.

So America should enter a possible major war with Russia just because of Ukraine?

What would they gain in Ukraine if they risk the lives of 50 million Americans?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 9:24pm On Apr 24, 2025
Moveittothem:
Oga, you don't know America and their interest more than The president of America.

So America should enter a possible major war with Russia just because of Ukraine?

What would they gain in Ukraine if they risk the lives of 50 million Americans?
Did anybody talk about American war with Russia...? They should just continue bro supply weapons ND intelligence... And money...

Not to cut it off in the name of oh, u I'll lose, Russia is so so big!
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Moveittothem: 10:36pm On Apr 24, 2025
blacksam01:
Did anybody talk about American war with Russia...? They should just continue bro supply weapons ND intelligence... And money...

Not to cut it off in the name of oh, u I'll lose, Russia is so so big!
Zelensky can't win that war, unless USA gets fully involved.

This is 3 years, has Ukraine even able to get the lost Donbass region? What about crimea?

So America should be supplying them weapons with no end in sight?

Because of what exactly? The interest is not worth it.
In fact, what has USA benefited in this war? Ukraine doesn't even pay for the arms
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 7:44am On Apr 25, 2025
NO.
U.S IS CHICKENING OUT AND THAT IS NOT GOOD.
TRUMP, A PAPA LION SHOULD PLEASE RESCUE SELENSKY, A BABY LION, FROM THE JAWS OF A FEROCIOUS MAMA LIONESS, PUTIN.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 7:50am On Apr 25, 2025
A WIN FOR PUTIN IN UKRAINE IS A CATASTROPHE FOR AMERICA AND WESTERN EUROPE
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 7:55am On Apr 25, 2025
UK, FRANCE GERMANY SHOULD TAKE OVER THE FIGHT WITH RUSSIA
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 7:58am On Apr 25, 2025
Moveittothem:
Zelensky can't win that war, unless USA gets fully involved.

This is 3 years, has Ukraine even able to get the lost Donbass region? What about crimea?

So America should be supplying them weapons with no end in sight?

Because of what exactly? The interest is not worth it.
In fact, what has USA benefited in this war? Ukraine doesn't even pay for the arms
Did Russia win Afghanistan war..? Why did they leave or did the US get involved...?

When casualties ND cost become unbearable, u will HV to retreat even while u are winning...

Russia will tire out.. their casualties rate far out do Ukraine
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 8:20am On Apr 25, 2025
NO. NOT FOR HIS INABILITY TO RESCUE SELENSKY FROM PUTIN.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 8:22am On Apr 25, 2025
atobs4real:
Blunt Trump
IT'S INDECISION.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Moveittothem: 9:57am On Apr 25, 2025
blacksam01:
Did Russia win Afghanistan war..? Why did they leave or did the US get involved...?

When casualties ND cost become unbearable, u will HV to retreat even while u are winning...

Russia will tire out.. their casualties rate far out do Ukraine
What was Russia's objective in Afghanistan?
What's their objective in Ukraine?
You see the difference?

Ukraine are likely to tire out, Crimea is gone.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by orisa37: 5:16pm On Apr 28, 2025
WILL PAPA LION TELL THE SON LION TO PLEAD FOR PEACE WITH THE PAPA TIGER?
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING TRUMP.
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