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andrewbaba44:
Doue was signed for 50 million euros which is lesser than Pedro neto

Barcola was signed for 45M euros ,so this one self na huge fee compared to what you guys do at Chelsea

Kimbeast:
To be fair Xavi also faced a better Madrid that was performing at a higher level than this current team. Madrid last season had 95points, the highest Barca can reach this season is 91 assuming they win all their remaining games. Barca would have likely gone to the champions league final last season as well without the red card against Psg. They would have definitely beaten Dortmund over two legs. So it's not like Xavi was terrible with the same set of players plus Yamal and Pedri are older and more matured.

Gucciboy:
Is it the mbappe that joined on free transfer last summer or is there another mbappe?

Sportsweb:
Ibime will destroy Chelsea if Given just 30 mins to run things

AirBere:
Hindsight is 20/20 for the emboldened. At the start of the season, pundits had Madrid as UCL favourites along with City. They were also tipped to win Laliga by a landslide after the addition of Mbape.

On Xavi, he's not a terrible coach we know. I mean he won the league just two years ago but he's not Flick or Enrique level. He's not a world class coach. In the season Barca won the league, Barca was sent to the Europa. Enrique or Flick is not playing Europa with that squad, no way. Even in the Europa, they got knocked out by a Manchester United team that lost to relegation threatened Sevilla in the quarters.

The point I'm trying to make is this, coach is a very important aspect of football, I'll prefer a better coach than 11 world class players on each position. Give me 6 or 7 world class players with a better coach like prime Pep and I'll be very comfortable with the chances of my team.

The same squad people complained week in week out under Lampard, Tuchel took it and won UCL. Koeman had Barca in 14th position, Xavi came mid season and took same team to 2nd. Wolves, Everton, same. This season, Valencia were on the verge of getting relegated, the new coach came in and they're now somewhat safe. May be new manager bounce but there's Amorin who took united from top to bottomless pit.

Coach is very key in my opinion.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Which club u dey support sef? Xavi is still jobless make una go hire him.

AirBere:
I hope you saw where I called him not world class and behind Enrique and Flick. But a coach who won the league is not terrible nah. What's hard to understand there lol.

AirBere:
Hindsight is 20/20 for the emboldened. At the start of the season, pundits had Madrid as UCL favourites along with City. They were also tipped to win Laliga by a landslide after the addition of Mbape.

On Xavi, he's not a terrible coach we know. I mean he won the league just two years ago but he's not Flick or Enrique level. He's not a world class coach. In the season Barca won the league, Barca was sent to the Europa. Enrique or Flick is not playing Europa with that squad, no way. Even in the Europa, they got knocked out by a Manchester United team that lost to relegation threatened Sevilla in the quarters.

The point I'm trying to make is this, coach is a very important aspect of football, I'll prefer a better coach than 11 world class players on each position. Give me 6 or 7 world class players with a better coach like prime Pep and I'll be very comfortable with the chances of my team.

The same squad people complained week in week out under Lampard, Tuchel took it and won UCL. Koeman had Barca in 14th position, Xavi came mid season and took same team to 2nd. Wolves, Everton, same. This season, Valencia were on the verge of getting relegated, the new coach came in and they're now somewhat safe. May be new manager bounce but there's Amorin who took united from top to bottomless pit.

Coach is very key in my opinion.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Diego Simeone also won the league twice with ATM. Ranieri won epl with Leicester City.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Which club u dey support sef? Xavi is still jobless make una go hire him.

NinjaMetahuman:
the mbappe that joint free last summer.

AirBere:
Are the aforementioned terrible coaches?

Gucciboy:
They were all signed by Luis Ocampus not Enrique. That's the point

Gucciboy:
Xavi is not a terrible coach naa why do Barca fans hate him so much like he didn't win trophies for Barca? He tried his best when barca was fucking broke and promoted lamasia kids. He was off the 2nd season doesn't make him bad.

You guys don't appreciate him enough.

Another coach wouldn't have given yamal and other boys chance to shine.

AirBere:
Hindsight is 20/20 for the emboldened. At the start of the season, pundits had Madrid as UCL favourites along with City. They were also tipped to win Laliga by a landslide after the addition of Mbape.

On Xavi, he's not a terrible coach we know. I mean he won the league just two years ago but he's not Flick or Enrique level. He's not a world class coach. In the season Barca won the league, Barca was sent to the Europa. Enrique or Flick is not playing Europa with that squad, no way. Even in the Europa, they got knocked out by a Manchester United team that lost to relegation threatened Sevilla in the quarters.

The point I'm trying to make is this, coach is a very important aspect of football, I'll prefer a better coach than 11 world class players on each position. Give me 6 or 7 world class players with a better coach like prime Pep and I'll be very comfortable with the chances of my team.

The same squad people complained week in week out under Lampard, Tuchel took it and won UCL. Koeman had Barca in 14th position, Xavi came mid season and took same team to 2nd. Wolves, Everton, same. This season, Valencia were on the verge of getting relegated, the new coach came in and they're now somewhat safe. May be new manager bounce but there's Amorin who took united from top to bottomless pit.

Coach is very key in my opinion.

Kimbeast:
At the start of the season no ball has been kicked so it was all prediction going by their last season performance. I am talking about Performance of Madrid this season compared to last. Barca current performance has been helped by the inconsistency of Madrid and their drop of form. If Madrid was on top form and leading the table no one will be praising Flick. When Madrid was 10points clear at the table in December the same Barca fans turned on Flick.

Gucciboy:
So mbappe joined last summer yet you attributed their laliga win last season to him.

Make it make sense.

How did mbappe win a laliga title when he wasn't a real Madrid player?

NinjaMetahuman:
This is Barcelona's squad yesterday.

Which one of them is actually world beater 2-3 years ago until hansi flick happened to them?

Should I remind you that the reason xavi was sacked was because he said couldn't compete with Madrid's super team of mbappe etc with this same squad?

Kimbeast:
At the start of the season no ball has been kicked so it was all prediction going by their last season performance. I am talking about Performance of Madrid this season compared to last. Barca current performance has been helped by the inconsistency of Madrid and their lose of form. If Madrid was on top form and leading the table no one will be praising Flick. When Madrid was 10points clear at the table in December the same Barca fans turned on Flick.

AirBere:
Valid points but coach is really key TBH. The same Barca squad that Xavi said won't be able to compete with Madrid/UCL and was demanding for a DM up and down is the same team that people are now raving about. This statement, according to marca got Xavi sacked.

The only notable addition to the squad is Olmo who's been like NEPA in terms of injuries. Lewy will be 37 in some months. Same squad, different coaches, different mentality, different results.

I feel Chelsea under Flick or Enrique would've been playing at a higher level. I mean the squad is good enough for at least a top 4/top 3 place.

MorataFC:
First of all, finishing in the top 3 or top 4 is not the target for a team like Chelsea. We buy players and hire coaches to win the top prize. Secondly, are you saying this squad is good enough to achieve dat ? I don't believe u.😂😂😂

NinjaMetahuman:
This is Barcelona's squad yesterday.

Which one of them is actually world beater 2-3 years ago until hansi flick happened to them?

Should I remind you that the reason xavi was sacked was because he said couldn't compete with Madrid's super team of mbappe etc with this same squad?

AirBere:
Both teams started the season pretty good though. Mbape started the season with two trophies so football was actually kicked.

What's your point bro? Lemme clarify myself to avoid confusions. I'm saying I'll always prefer a better coach mixed with 6 or 7 top class players than having 11 world class players.

Flick is the difference for Barca same with PSG with Enrique. Without Flick or another top class coach, nobody will be talking about Barca this season. Just like last season where nobody took them seriously. That's my whole point. Their squad is okay but not better than Madrid's.

I think you're actually making my own point. If Madrid had a better coach, they'll be playing better and keeping up with expectations.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
At the bolded, here you have it. Very poor mentality to have as a coach. No wonder he lost 3️⃣ straight classico last season. Was knocked out by Frankfurt at home in the Europa League. Mid table Manure also in Europa League. The only addition in this team is Olmo. All these players were under forming under Xavi maybe except Dembouz.

You have Araujo and Marc winning man of the match award everyday

Kimbeast:
The point is Madrid dropped off from last season . The Madrid Xavi went head to head with last season is not the same Flick is going head to head with. Their performance this season has been terrible compared to last. Maybe Complacency from winning the league and champions league. Xavi might have still won the league if he went head to head with this current Madrid.


You are not recognizing the circumstances surrounding the issue instead you are going at it one way. If a coach finishes 2nd with 91points losing to a rival with 95points, then gets sacked and a new coach comes in the next season and wins the league with 85points while their rival with 80points. Did the sacked coach perform poorly or lesser than the current coach?

AirBere:
Lol, it seems you're not getting my point though so I'll soon relax. I'm saying having a good coach mixed with world class players is better than having more world class players with an average coach. Klopp won 1 league title in 9 years yet if Xavi were to win Laliga 3 times in a row, go to Bundesliga and win 2 in a row, nobody will say he's better than Klopp. In fact, some Liverpool fans will still tell you that they prefer Klopp despite Slot winning the league so comfortably

My whole point is that I always lean towards having top coaches instead of more world class players. Barca is where they are today because of Flick. May be next season Alonso will dominate and take Madrid to the top again.

It's not about what Xavi did or didn't do. It's about siding with better coaches with elite mentality. We have a coach who said Chelsea were not in the title race when they were in fact in it. Those are the things I'm against.

Take Flick to Madrid and Arsenal isbt beating them home and away with a 5:1 agg score line.

I'm saying that "COACH" is always very key 🗝️

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
At the bolded, here you have it. Very poor mentality to have as a coach. No wonder he lost 3️⃣ straight classico last season. Was knocked out by Frankfurt at home in the Europa League. Mid table Manure also in Europa League. The only addition in this team is Olmo. All these players were under forming under Xavi maybe except Dembouz.

You have Araujo and Marc winning man of the match award everyday

Kimbeast:
Of course a good coach is important. There are also other factors to consider when comparing a current coach to their predecessor. You mentioned Xavi and said they are here because of Flick without adding context. That was the issue I had with your post. It's like calling Klopp a poor coach for not winning the League last season because slot did it this season. Why are you not criticizing Klopp for failing to win the league last season with the same squad?


Lol legendary coaches have been beaten home and away. Pep was beaten home and away by Bayern 5:0, The same Enrique was beaten home and away last season by Dortmund.

AirBere:
Lol, very good. Now you get it. It's true legendary coaches lose home and away too.


Whole point is that I always side towards top coaches with a mixture of class players. So it's all clear now abi 😔

Kimbeast:
Yes chief we are good .

AirBere:
Both teams started the season pretty good though. Mbape started the season with two trophies so football was actually kicked.

What's your point bro? Lemme clarify myself to avoid confusions. I'm saying I'll always prefer a better coach mixed with 6 or 7 top class players than having 11 or more world class players scattered around the team.

Flick is the difference for Barca same with PSG with Enrique. Without Flick or another top class coach, nobody will be talking about Barca this season. Just like last season where nobody took them seriously under Xavi. That's my whole point. Their squad is great but not better than Madrid's or may be they're same level I don't know.

I think you're actually making my own point. If Madrid had a better coach, they'll be playing better and keeping up with expectations.

Coach is always very key in my opinion 🗝️