₦airaland Forum

nickxtra:
Over reaching his bounds, you meant? The igbankes are located on Edo South where the Oba of Benin is the Supreme traditional leader. No tribe or subnational has the right to claim traditional autonomy without the Oba's consent and approval. If they want autonomy within Edo, it's impossible, but should rather look for another land to relocate to.

Oga park well the Oba has never had a jurisdiction from pre-colonial times with the igbanke.

omozu1:
Then you don't know anything about the igbanke and the ika
My dear the igbanke don't understand the ika language they speak different languages.
And the Ika says they are from Benin.
You can ask their king
The people that form the Ika tribe are people that migrated from Benin and Igala and not Ibos you can ask their king

Bro make una take am easy to dey lie.

ROYAL FATHER MEANS NOTHING IN A MODERN WORLD.


AT BEST THEY ARE LOCAL CHIEF AND THAT IS WHY HE WEARS THE TITLE OF OBA OF BINI.



HE IS NOT OBA OF EDO STATE OR OBA OF EDO SOUTH.


HE IS LIMITED TO THE BINI PEOPLE.



CROSS ANYWHERE ELSE WILL BE PUNISHED.

Christistruth02:
It concerns us
So you didn’t get the memo that Ika and Igbanke are part of the Oduduwa Commonwealth

Dein of Agbor (Ika) na Oduduwa Pikin

He was only a young 3 year old king when his high Chiefs gate crashed Ile Ife
carrying him with his Crown on his head into Ooni Sijuwade’s coronation
he almost stole the whole show with his Chiefs bowing and displaying all kinds of Royal homage
before him to everyone’s astonishment

Ile Ife had never seen anything like it before, a 3 year old king carried by his (Prime Minister ?)
With his procession of his High Chiefs following behind him

And he Sat down with all the other Obas too

It was wonderful

So he went to ile ife on a visit and based on that he is your son. It seems you took alcohol today.

WHY DID HE NOT SUSPEND THEM DURING OBASEKE OR EVEN OSHIOMOLE.



HE AND THE CRIMINAL IN ASO ROCK TRUNCATED DEMOCRACY AND INSTALLED THEIR FELLOW CRIMINAL AS GOVERNOR AND THEN COWRADLY SUSPENED IKA KINGS IN EDO.



ALL THIS WILL NOT CHANG THEIR IKA IDENTITY.

GO AND ASK YOUR ANCESTORS, WHY 600YEARS DID NOT CHANGE THEIR IDENTITY, IT IS NOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND U THE MOST DAFT OF ALL.

Stolen:
OBA OF ILE IBINU IS MAKING FOR HIMSELF VERY POWERFUL ENEMIES.

You've not answered my question

lordwoz:
You've not answered my question

SOON, ALL THOSE HIS RELATIVES HE INSTALLED ACROSS SS, WILL GET THEIR MATCHING ORDERS.


HE NEVER SABI AS WE DEY DO.



BY THE TIME WE MAKE IT BY ELECTION ONLY, HIM EYE GO CLEAR.

THERE COMES A TIME WEN EVEN HIM WILL HAVE TO GO HOME TO ILE IFE.

GOING AROUND INSTALLING YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AS KING IN OTHER TRIBES COMMUNITY CAN ONLY BE DONE IN 12TH CENTURY.

TODAY, WE SACK EVERYBODY, INCLUDING YOU AND APPOINT THEM BY ELECTION.

ID..AT!

Christistruth02:
Azikiwe insisted that the Yoruba speaking Kwara belonged to the North and mustn't
be part of the west and he was so adamant he completely rejected all reasonable arguments on the matter so considering that this your argument get k-leg

You are a liar! The Kwarans wanted to be in the North. The British colonial master tried to force Kwara into Yoruba region but the Kwaran folks refused and that was in 1852.

gidgiddy:
This is why people who speak the same language should not be subdivided into different states with those who have a completely different language

During the creation of Edo State in the 90's, the Igbanke people were carved into Edo State when they should have been left in Delta State with their fellow Ika's

This has now caused a situation where the Oba of Bini feels these people are his subjects when they are not.

Most unfortunate.

And delta state is ?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Igbo are the oldest tribe in Nigeria. Igbos are ingenious to north central , South south and even in the South West.

So stop making foolish statement

Bendeco02:


Oba of Benin have to threat with caution and not to allow himself be used politically.

Igbanke is under a seperate tribe on it's own and not under his kingdom.

If he shows his strength to Igbanke because he sees them as minority then he is making mistake because if they team up with Ika sub tribe, i doubt if Benin are more than Anioma alone.

When we talk about Anioma, Onitsha in Anambra with Ogbaru, Oguta in Imo and Ndoni in Rivers are among. Benin are not more than Eze Chima clan if we are to settle the matter by gra gra

I respect Edo people as a whole, they are good people. But this Benin throne supremacy mentality in this centuary makes no sense. If we are allowed to fight and take over territory by conquest, he stand no chance. I wonder what is giving him pride.

Sure of this?

Saying he stands no chance if fighting is allowed, you forget you guys have no unity amongst your people neither will you submit to anyone ruling over you, you have no allies or you feel war is by a particular number alone?

Unity brings victory

Oba of Benin is a foolish person

Ohanézè are not smart by speaking

After the killing at Uromi and the unity between Edo and Igbos, someone is using Igbanke to destroy the relationship

So Igbos and Edo should work with wisdom

Not knowing your history is a terrible thing.

Please, LEAVE us alone Southern HERDSMEN....

IKA/ IGBANKE/ ANIOMA( EDO SIDE apart from the Igala side)/ EDO are ALL family.

This Biafra you people are looking for by insulting our Oba, Dein of Agbor, others you won't easily see it as the average one of us from childhood, our foreparents have already been singing it in our ears our EDO roots, you will find it very difficult to convince abi na confuse us.... If your ancestors FAILED in making you know your history ( tenants) and because of that feel our lands are yours you are mistaken.

OBI/ OVBI, ENOGIE, EZE ( even the Crown Prince bears EZE) are ALL Bini roots stop the divide. 2027 is the goal anyway for us.

Even if Nigeria divides today, we will join the West if no region is created for us, know this and know peace.

Bizmen/ History professors: NNA MEHN, ENUANI CULTURAL FORUM, THE TRIBES, ALMIGHTY, BUSH RADIO, IDENTITY CRISIS etc..... ALL of you are wasting your time. If you like add the MIXED bloods into Ohaneze and get a woman or man King with pure Igbo surname( Okonkwo), the person is representimg ONLY your residents in Bendel and NOT us.

Your strategies are DOA.

Bendeco02:


Oba of Benin have to threat with caution and not to allow himself be used politically.

Igbanke is under a seperate tribe on it's own and not under his kingdom.

If he shows his strength to Igbanke because he sees them as minority then he is making mistake because if they team up with Ika sub tribe, i doubt if Benin are more than Anioma alone.

When we talk about Anioma, Onitsha in Anambra with Ogbaru, Oguta in Imo and Ndoni in Rivers are among. Benin are not more than Eze Chima clan if we are to settle the matter by gra gra

I respect Edo people as a whole, they are good people. But this Benin throne supremacy mentality in this centuary makes no sense. If we are allowed to fight and take over territory by conquest, he stand no chance. I wonder what is giving him pride.

Chest beating as usual. Always the first to beat the drum for war and when it starts, the same people will start crying about how they're not being liked and wanted

tunjion:
They are still operating in their communities as we speak.

The suspension is only valid inside Oba of Beniin palace, e no reach Igbanke land.

now u tell your Oba to do his worst.

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Which law are they using to operate as Eze?

They have no legal backing of any government.

This is how Igbo started the 1966 military coup when it started they started crying and playing the victim card that the rest of Nigeria hate their people.

The Igbo are the most emotional people on earth.

They act recklessly without using their brains.

When other ethnic groups decided to strike back they will begin to be playing the victim card calling Nigeria a zoo.

But they the ones now acting like Animal now.

Kingship and kingdoms in Nigeria has lost relevance to politicians.

They are now microphones to big dogs in politics and they don't have a choice.

Christistruth02:
Azikiwe insisted that the Yoruba speaking Kwara belonged to the North and mustn't
be part of the west and he was so adamant he completely rejected all reasonable arguments on the matter so considering that this your argument get k-leg

Chai You guys are wicked.
Lord Lugard who was tasked with amalgamation was the one who as far back as 1911, when Zik was still a baby, insisted that ilorin province be part of Northern Nigeria for the mere fact that the ruler of Ilorin was a subject of Sokoto sultan.
This how you guys lied that zik refused self determination in the constitution. A shameless lie that begs the question, how can 2 region want something but one region that refuses has their way in a whiteman's democracy?
Evil people everywhere

lordwoz:
I've heard and read of the great Benin warriors /empire, but I've never heard of the Anioma warriors/empire.

lol read about what we and the British went through during the pre colonial time, and again read about the ubuluku-benin war how we dealt with the Benin, let me tell you the Benin people are over hyped we the anioma's know them well

temitope27:
those are Yoruba land, ilorin is Yoruba land too. Igbanke people leave their own land to seek refuge or maybe Benin slave, that place doesn't belong to them

It doesn't belong to them, yet they have Ezes and Obis there. Titles that are not Bini in origin.

Attempt to annex their land, and they'll take over Bini forever.

Okhuadams:
If it pains you go and unsuspend them

Oba can suspend enigies. He cannot suspend Ezes and Obis

Earthkumy:
Ohanézè are not smart by speaking

After the killing at Uromi and the unity between Edo and Igbos, someone is using Igbanke to destroy the relationship

So Igbos and Edo should work with wisdom

Igbos will still support Edo state people, if they defend their ancestral lands against invading Fulani terrorists, it they shouldn't go annexing Ika territories

Setting the records straight on EKUMEKU war

History Guide 101
So I think it’s very important for me to do this right now,going by the deluge of historians we now have online,those who are telling their own history and those who are fixated on other people’s history.

If and when they write some of these things,it’s easy to identify the holes in them,and deduce who is lying from whose telling the truth.

I’ll give you a practical example;

When I say Issele uku was created in 1230ad,by oba eweka of Benin,you then take the date 1230 and cross check if oba eweka was really the oba at that time.

If I say that the communities that make up isseleuku are named after communities that make up Benin Kingdom;eg ogbe eribo,ehenkpe,ogbe oliha and utekor,you go and verify with Benin people if these areas truly exist.

When I say that our royal greeting of “iyade” in Issele uku is synonymous with “iyare” of Benin,you’ll ckearly see the resemblance in it.

If I tell you that Ekumeku war was headed by the obi Egbune of Issele uku,you should ask me how and I’ll show you the treaty he signed with the royal Niger company that ended most (not all) of the resistance.

If I then tell you,that the ezechime children ended their tussle to the throne of their father at the palace of the oba of Benin during the reign of oba esigie in the 15th century,you should be able to verify if oba esigie was king then in Benin during that time.

And so and so forth.

History like I’ve always said,is not tales by moonlight,but facts verifiable beyond reasonable doubt.

So when next someone says, that there was a certain aya idu na oba (war between oba and idu)in Enuani region or even in Benin,ask then these questions ;

What year was the war fought
What caused the war
Who won the war
What songs do they sing today in remembrance of that war
Who and who and who fought in that war?
Is there a commemoration of that war today,like we have the mock battle of the benin people during igue and the igbu agbor rituals of isseleuku during ine?

If they cannot answer 2 out of all these questions,just know it’s another tales by moonlight.

Stay guided.

*Copied( Prince Josh Ake)

Setting the records straight on EKUMEKU war II

The Original copy of the treaty signed between the Royal Niger Company and the issele “country” on the 20th February 1896.

This particular treaty came just 12 years after Ekumeku silent guerrilla wars was started by the then Obi Egbune of issele-Uku in 1884,who was also the grand patron and leader of the Ekumeku group.

An eye witness report from the explorer;GT Basden,describes Obi Egbune as “the most powerful man in the whole world”.(sometimes I sit back and wonder;what did he see?).

The treaty paved way for the end of all hostilities from the Ekumeku side and also a halt of the bombardments from the English weapons.

Most people do not know this,but this treaty saved the lives and property of the issele people who were the most powerful in that region stretching on both sides.

It’s interesting to know that as far it pertains to Ekumeku war,no other community holds a treaty to that effect,only issele-uku.

*Copied( Prince Josh Ake)

Setting the records straight on EKUMEKU war III

On EKUMEKU

It's important to correct some funny analogy about this group;
First the membership of the group was exclusive to the present day Enuani region

Secondly their leader and grand patron was Obi Egbune of Issele-uku as described in GT Basdens book

Thirdly;they never had a name! (Ekumeku was a descriptive term used by non-members to describe them)

Four;they never had an open war confrontation with the royal Niger company until the one fought in Ogwashi/ubulu axis that completely shattered the Ekumeku structure.

Obi Egbune only pulled his support from the group based on the sufficient advice of the supremacy of the white mans weapon.

It was a guerrilla war;never large scale but persistent.

Facts vs Fiction.

In Continuation;
Ekemeku war timeline is very important to note, having established that the war was more of a resistance than an open face to face battle which obviously would have been impossible,considering the sophisticated might of the white Mans weaponry.

To understand the longivitty of this war, you must first examine the reason for the war.

Ekumeku was largely a resistance to the royal niger company.

Thus Ekumeku could not have been in existence prior to the RNC timeline.

The royal Niger company on the other hand became active from 1886-1899

Obi Egbune who was their leader pulled out from the group in 1896 after he signed the treaty.

The groups activity was largely ended in the same 1896, but let's asssume it lingered small till the RNC sold it's holdings for around (£865,000) in 1899.

So here is the maths
RNC active year =1886
RNC Ends opps =1899
(subtracting both)=
I.e= 13 years

RNC active year =1886
P I egbune ended his affiliation to the group=1896
(subtracting both)=
I.e= 10 years

RNC active year =1886
Ekumeku ends=1896-1900
(subtracting both)
I.e 14 years.

However you calculate it, the average year of Ekumeku operations does not exceed 10-15 years at max, because they came in to fight the RNC and so could not have been in existence before then;because who would they have been resisting, and RNC outlived them because we see that the RNC operations continued up to the punitive expedition era in 1897.

Facts vs fiction.

*Copied ( Prince Josh Ake)