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Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by DeltaBachelor(m): 4:58pm On May 04, 2025
Hmmm
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Hushpuppy20(m): 5:02pm On May 04, 2025
Even in white man's land, you are claiming territories.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by epainos: 5:03pm On May 04, 2025
I find these mornachs disgusting. Imagine the number of kings in Nigeria by 2025, to the point where state governments have established ministries to address chieftaincy issues. Just imagine. And it is all because they use these people to win and occasionally rig elections.

Some will argue that we must protect our culture. Just tell me...look at these Ooni and Alaafin; are they the kind who know their culture well? If they know, this type of problem will never occur. These people are just spending money. One guy like that brought a Jamaican lady with him to be enthroned, and the lady eventually divorced him. The same Yoruba king began referring to himself as an emir and wearing northern attire at times. Does it appear that this type of person can teach you about a culture he is unfamiliar with? Another one is currently under investigation for illegal arms importation. And, given Kano's badtardisation of everything, can we say that these people have not lost their relevance? Or is it the Sultan of Sokoto who is unaware of his boundaries and wishes to command Muslims throughout the country?

We are simply wasting money on these individuals.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Maxxim: 5:03pm On May 04, 2025
Sheuns:
cheesy

See them claiming ownership to a place in far away USA. If some other tribes lay claims to a land in southwest now, they’ll want to bring the entire country down.

I don’t know where in history was it written that either Oyo or Ife ever conquered a land in the USA for one monarch to lay claim to such.
😂😂 I wonder o
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by success1smyn(m): 5:04pm On May 04, 2025
DeOTR:
Oyo and pride. The current Ooni is humble to a fault. I don't know why anyone would have an issue with him.
Walahi
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Bovis(m): 5:17pm On May 04, 2025
The current Alaafin like some of his predecessor is trying to rewrite history by remaining seated whilst greeting the Ooni.

The image will be circulated in the future to claim his supremacy over Ooni. However, Ooni is the Arole (Heir ) of Oodua and superior. Therefore, Yoruba elders should call the young Alaafin to order before he starts another bitter rivalry between the two great thrones
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by naijacruise419: 5:19pm On May 04, 2025
Islie:
https://punchng.com/how-us-yoruba-village-sparked-row-between-alaafin-ooni/?amp
Land grabbers... grabbing land and killing themselves far away in USA.
Yoruba respect is purely eye-service.. People that will bend over while cursing in their mind
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Judolisco(m): 5:21pm On May 04, 2025
datola:
Stop this iku baba yeye nonesense! ..as if he has any control over life and death.
Yoruba kings don't die
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Chegesnd: 5:26pm On May 04, 2025
Anyways, I'm not Yoruba, but courtesy demands that Alafin should stand to greet a fellow high ranking Traditional Ruler who stretches his hand to greet.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Kingluqman(m): 5:30pm On May 04, 2025
Image123:
Heard it's a culture, not a refusal. i read that the tradition doesn't allow the Alaafin to stand up to greet anyone once he's seated. If he's not seated, he can greet anyone.
But he stood up to greet The president's wife and the governor grin


The new Alaafin just get baseless pride

If to sey e stand up greet Ooni, make dem exchange handshake 🤝 and hug 🫂 each other.. the picture go circulate and really go far in uniting Yorubas. But Alaafin don listen to people, taking advice from ordinary people forgetting he is Alaafin.


Ooni will always win this battle with history, humility and respect. Ooni is just a peaceful traditional ruler.

Can never happen during the time of Oba Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II grin

Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by lightwind(m): 5:33pm On May 04, 2025
Bastards 😒
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Exclusive101: 5:34pm On May 04, 2025
Which millenium your papa one get sense


Sheuns:
cheesy

See them claiming ownership to a place in far away USA. If some other tribes lay claims to a land in southwest now, they’ll want to bring the entire country down.

I don’t know where in history was it written that either Oyo or Ife ever conquered a land in the USA for one monarch to lay claim to such.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by shegoon: 5:35pm On May 04, 2025
Bloggers with unnecessary attention, it's not new that there is tussle between Alaafins and the Oni of ife over superiority,it is long time tussle ,even the last alaafin(Oba lamidi) don't rise in occasions to great Oni of ife
Islie:
https://punchng.com/how-us-yoruba-village-sparked-row-between-alaafin-ooni/?amp
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Image123(m): 5:36pm On May 04, 2025
Kingluqman:
But he stood up to greet The president's wife and the governor grin


The new Alaafin just get baseless pride

If to sey e stand up greet Ooni, make dem exchange handshake 🤝 and hug 🫂 each other.. the picture go circulate and really go far in uniting Yorubas. But Alaafin don listen to people, taking advice from ordinary people forgetting he is Alaafin.


Ooni will always win this battle with history, humility and respect. Ooni is just a peaceful traditional ruler.

Can never happen during the time of Oba Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II grin
Wow, that's interesting. i read the thing online and i was like "interesting culture, never knew"
Na dem know oh
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Image123(m): 5:38pm On May 04, 2025
Bovis:
The current Alaafin like some of his predecessor is trying to rewrite history by remaining seated whilst greeting the Ooni.

The image will be circulated in the future to claim his supremacy over Ooni. However, Ooni is the Arole (Heir ) of Oodua and superior. Therefore, Yoruba elders should call the young Alaafin to order before he starts another bitter rivalry between the two great thrones
If he's standing to greet governors and first ladies, then he is probably confused.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Mathewrichard99: 5:40pm On May 04, 2025
You can never understand how wide the culture of the Yorubas is. Yorubas is a diverse ethnicity that transversed the continent of Africa. I guess you aren't Yoruba or even if you are, you aren't a depth knowledgeable Yoruba. Yorubas aren't just such people that Japa or those that migrated for economic reasons. Yorubas are indigenous of so many countries such as Americas consisting of USA, Dominican Republic, Cuban, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago, Etc......also in Africa, Yorubas are indigenous to countries such as Togo, Benin Republic, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Senegal, Liberia, etc.....Yorubas aren't limited to Nigeria alone unlike other tribes in Nigeria. It's only Yoruba, Hausa and Fulani that have a global representation ethnically.

Now, let me explain briefly to you. All those Yorubas widely dispersed all over those countries I mentioned and more, their ancestors were carried away as slaves between 15 to 18th Century by the Europeans and were distributed to all those countries. Mind you, it wasn't only Yorubas that was carried away as slaves then but other tribes too but the Yorubas among them decided to retain their culture, their language and the manner of worshipping such as Ifa, Obantala, Iyemoja etc.... the Yorubas kept their culture intact and infact started practicing their cultures in those diverse areas and even blended it with the culture of those countries they were taken to. For example, in the US, the people that formed Oyotunji were descendants of Yoruba slaves that still remembered that they are Yorubas and still want to be known as Yorubas and also practice the culture. That's the reason they got some large hectares of land to create Oyotunji Kingdom in the fashion of the bigger Kingdom of Oyo Kingdom in Nigeria. They have always shared communication and guidance with the motherland/fatherland in Oyo, Nigeria. The same things is also applicable to other areas where they have Indigenous Yorubas as a tribe. Incase you need more understanding, please read the history of the Yorubas in America's and the world at large....

mayorcassa977:
what am I reading?They went to install king in America?from the same set of people that beat people in lagos for coming out to vote?and beating up everybody that looks somehow?

someone should tell me I am reading something else.. cheesy
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Nnaoweri: 5:41pm On May 04, 2025
Antoeni:
The 2 Custodian Of The Yoruba Remote skull Mining Technology
Y.ibo
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by foleskay(m): 5:44pm On May 04, 2025
BlocksNG:
Alaafin no be your mate. Iku baba yeye.
Alafin no be who's mate??
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by stevups(m): 5:45pm On May 04, 2025
Image123:
Heard it's a culture, not a refusal. i read that the tradition doesn't allow the Alaafin to stand up to greet anyone once he's seated. If he's not seated, he can greet anyone.
You are one of the reasonable people here.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by dlaw70(m): 5:46pm On May 04, 2025
dawnomike:
Well, in my opinion... this supremacy issue is thrash and rubbish.
So, let me speak about courtesy... 'A fellow high ranking king walked over to greet you; courtesy demands you stand to greet him in return as a fellow high ranking King'

But, we are in Nigeria where we like proving supremacy either in a subtle way or otherwise.

This is not only peculiar to the Yoruba kings...
The Ooni of ife is not a monarch .why is this dificult for non historians to understand .He is the chief priest of the yoruba people ,he is no monarch
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Blakhorse: 5:49pm On May 04, 2025
Image123:
If he's standing to greet governors and first ladies, then he is probably confused.
I don’t think he’s confused, I believe he deliberately remained seated to greet the Ooni in order to undermine him as the Arole Odua
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Mathewrichard99: 5:49pm On May 04, 2025
You know what, when we starts soliciting for individuals that weren't tutored in the culture of their people. That's what we always get. The new Alaafin of Oyo has always been in the USA. I guess he was born and bred in the US without a deep knowledge of the cultures of the Yorubas.

Also, he's crowned based on political influences, he's appointed by the Governor of Oyo state unlike Ooni Of Ife that's always chosen by IFA ORACLE......



Chegesnd:
Anyways, I'm not Yoruba, but courtesy demands that Alafin should stand to greet a fellow high ranking Traditional Ruler who stretches his hand to greet.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Anatolia: 6:00pm On May 04, 2025
The Alafin is superior to the ooni of ife in terms of historic relevance. The ooni is the direct descendant of oduduwa so he has spiritual superiority somehow. If not for British rule, the most prominent Yoruba obas are the Alafin of Oyo and the Olubadan of Ibadan.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by BlocksNG(m): 6:07pm On May 04, 2025
your papas mate
foleskay:
Alafin no be who's mate??
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Zocalite: 6:08pm On May 04, 2025
Sheuns:
cheesy

See them claiming ownership to a place in far away USA. If some other tribes lay claims to a land in southwest now, they’ll want to bring the entire country down.

I don’t know where in history was it written that either Oyo or Ife ever conquered a land in the USA for one monarch to lay claim to such.
Bless you
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Zocalite: 6:09pm On May 04, 2025
remi iyawo bilisi don organise wahala again 🤣
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by penultimatee(m): 6:10pm On May 04, 2025
Kabiyesii Alaafin please trade with caution. We love you.and we really pray and fast for you when you are having problem with oyo people during selection process. Don't allow some elements advice you astray.You are young, vibrant with so much exposure. Don't let them advise you to doom.They are enemy,it's your downfall they want. Ire o
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Dancebreaker: 6:11pm On May 04, 2025
publicenemy:
The Ooni of ife's consistent manner of approaching people for handshake puts him in position to be disrespect. If you get to an event wall to your sit and sit down, you are supposed to be the king of the yoruba nation. Stop walking to up to people to stretch out your hands for handshakes.
I think the Ooni goes to a bit too many occasions. He could be more selective. Being selective gives less room to speculators and those who interpret every move wrongly.

I know he's using a modern touch and wants to be more visible and accessible.
I don't think his manner is wrong. Just that our clime does not value humility. GEJ comes to mind.
Monarchs in Scandinavia, especially Denmark and Sweden, are popular for their simplicity. Advanced countries value such humility. We are not there yet.

From what we know historically, the Alaafin is an imperial warrior king and the Ooni is a priest king.
In modern times, both the empire and priesthood are symbolic due to modern Nigeria and Middle-Eastern religions.
So, this supremacy battle fanned by people without any voice in real life is too bad.
Re: How US Yoruba Village Sparked Row Between Alaafin, Ooni by Tenisam: 6:12pm On May 04, 2025
publicenemy:
The Ooni of ife's consistent manner of approaching people for handshake puts him in position to be disrespect. If you get to an event wall to your sit and sit down, you are supposed to be the king of the yoruba nation. Stop walking to up to people to stretch out your hands for handshakes.
That's what is called servant leadership style you mumu. The same leadership style the Late Pope executed. Stop spewing trash.

People like you will hold ordinary councilor and people won't be able to breath
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