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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 4:19pm On May 08, 2025 |
Undisputed fact ......
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:37pm On May 08, 2025 |
vaxx:It is appreciating to fast and causing problems....the BOG might have to intervene else the dollar might be trading at 9 cedis by end of May. Local gold miners have sold 2.7 billion dollars worth of gold to the government over the last 4 months |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AkoniMoipei: 6:24pm On May 08, 2025*. Modified: 3:45pm On May 09, 2025 |
vaxx:OMFG! If this was my govt the president would be literally sh#tting his pants. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 7:16pm On May 08, 2025 |
The City Capital
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 7:18pm On May 08, 2025 |
Guzape, Abuja
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:58pm On May 09, 2025 |
Ogun State Governor, Prince @DapoAbiodunCON commissioned Nigeria’s first large-scale rapid diagnostic test (RDT) production facility, established by CODIX BIO Limited along the Sagamu expressway. The factory, which is the second of its kind in Sub-Saharan Africa, is set to produce over 147 million test kits annually for HIV, Malaria, and Hepatitis B and C. Governor Dapo Abiodun described the facility as a major leap in Nigeria’s healthcare innovation, aligning with President Bola Ahmed Tinubu’s Renewed Hope Agenda aimed at reducing dependence on imported diagnostic tools. According to the World Health Organization, over 90% of diagnostic kits used in Africa are imported, primarily from Europe, Asia, and North America. The Minister of Health and Social Welfare, Prof. Ali Pate Muhammad, and Minister of Education, Dr. Tunji Alausa, praised the Governor’s leadership in fostering industrialization and healthcare investment. They called for stronger collaborations between CODIX BIO and academic institutions to develop biomedical talent and expand health innovation. CODIX BIO’s CEO, Mr. Sammy Ogunjimi, revealed that the facility has been selected by the WHO, SD Biosensor, and MPP under the H-TAP program to serve as a regional manufacturing hub for Africa. The initiative is expected to improve healthcare delivery, create jobs, and enhance Nigeria’s capacity for disease control and early diagnosis.
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 12:12am On May 10, 2025 |
AkoniMoipei:That was outdated figure tho. That figure was before Nigeria rebased its economy. Nigeria is still the largest economy |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 6:34pm On May 10, 2025 |
AkoniMoipei:That is the current reality. From first position in Africa to fourth position. We can always blame the mismanagement |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 6:37pm On May 10, 2025*. Modified: 11:56am On May 11, 2025 |
theenchanter:UK, Germany, USA and some other organized European country will not make you a millionaire in those country currency but it will make life easy for you and soft for your loved ones too. The purpose is to escape poverty, give your family a good life. Anything outside it shouldn't concern you. Now used the same analogy in this context. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:34pm On May 10, 2025 |
vaxx:Why are you guys fond of comparing an African country like Ghana to UK, US. It’s not thesame scenario. The average pay and minimum wage in those countries means their purchasing power matches up with the high value of the currency. This is not the case with Ghana. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:19pm On May 10, 2025 |
vaxx:I choosed not to reply Just30 cos he wasn't making sense with his submission, he contrasted developed nation's economy with a developing nation's economy. But u see this ur own point, it's not even a point, it's nonsense.... I can't deal with it. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:24pm On May 10, 2025 |
Banana Island. Lagos.
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:27pm On May 10, 2025 |
vaxx:And if it becomes the first again in few years, y'all will scream "FAKE". Never agreeing that many indexes make up the GDP. Y'all think GDP is mere figure. We know the drill. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AkoniMoipei: 10:31pm On May 10, 2025 |
QuietMynd:Which figure? I quoted the entire trend and highlighted two significant areas showing the GDP fell from a high of over 500B when you rebased on 2014 to a low of 188 this year, is that outdated? You might need to rebase again or tell your president to do his f#cking job! |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AkoniMoipei: 10:32pm On May 10, 2025 |
vaxx:That is just abominable |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:45pm On May 10, 2025 |
AkoniMoipei:Does it make sense to you that GDP fell so suddenly only in 2023 and 2024? It’s simple exchange rate dynamics at play. When we rebase again or allow our inflation and purchasing power catch up completely with the devaluation in just a few months or years, the GDP gets back to circa 500 Billion dollars suddenly again, then you’ll come here saying the figure is fake. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AkoniMoipei: 11:51pm On May 10, 2025 |
GeneralDae:The fall is not sudden but gradual, starting immediately after you rebased. Nigeria's GDP is just about in its proper place right now at around 180B — The Kenyan GDP is almost catching up at 131B. In fact if Tinubu does not pull up his socks the catchup will be complete before the decade ends. Whichever the case, dont confuse exchange rate dynamics and rebasing, the latter is done to keep up with the evolution in prices. Your president's decision to let the local currency float freely has seen naira lose 70% of its formerly artificially high value, which is exactly what we are seeing because your GDP has dropped nearly 70% from the heydays of the 2014 rebase. Just a point of note, you could have a trillion dollar GDP and I would not say its fake, even though I know it is. I never said so when it was 576. GDP is a very artificial number that depends heavily on how you measure it — exchange rates, inflation adjustments, and rebasing can all drastically shift the figure without reflecting any real change in people’s daily lives. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:14am On May 11, 2025 |
GeneralDae:your gdp shouldn't drop this much because of devaluation |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:15am On May 11, 2025 |
theenchanter:You simple can't reply to my comment because you'll require a strong economics background to give a sensible response without exposing yourself. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 2:31am On May 11, 2025*. Modified: 3:19am On May 11, 2025 |
AkoniMoipei:The fall in 2023 was sudden. In 2015/2016 there was a recession due to change in Government (leading to capital flight for some reason) and low oil prices at $30. After the recovery, it picked up again until another recession in 2020 then picked up again in 2021 when the economy grew by 3.4%. In 2023, there was no recession. We grew by circa 2.8% and in 2024 we grew by 3.4%. So only 2023 and 2024 are strange in dollars gdp growth. These have nothing to do with 2014 rebasing but sudden devaluation in 2023/2024. Unlike Argentina which had over 100% inflation to match their devaluation, our inflation only gradually increased, while our GDP PPP grew faster so the dollar lost its connection to the naira growth. My point is that all that can change almost as quickly as well. Analogy: “Say a piece of land cost 400,000 naira when naira was 400 in 2022, that land would have been $1000 then as well. In 2025, with naira at 1600, that Land should now be x4 which would be 1.6 million naira to make it remain at $1000. But in Nigeria, you would probably find that the land has increased only x3 at most in several of these instances and for some x2 or x2.5. So the land only increased to 1.1 or 1.2 million since 2022, when it should have increased to 1.6 million at once. Hence, the dollar value of the land still decreases by that much even though the naira value has grown tremendously”. Continuing from the analogy above, we can say it would only take a few quarters for prices to match up again with thesame consumption volume across board especially if the currency becomes stable like we saw in 2018 and 2019 in Nigeria after a rough 2016. We already began to see huge consumption and profits in over 90% of Q1 2025 results across all sectors. That shows price increase is catching up (e.g telcos only increased their prices in February 2025 for the first time since 2013 despite all the inflation and devaluation) and it also shows consumption power is growing again from low levels of 2023 and 2024 due to slight wage adjustments across board especially by the private sector and some states. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 2:50am On May 11, 2025*. Modified: 3:17am On May 11, 2025 |
Just40:I think it makes sense to me now thinking about it. In late 2022 and early 2023 your inflation continued to climb fast even to over 54% at a point. Nigeria’s inflation climb was steady but slower. Also, with Argentina, their inflation climb to circa 200% was almost at thesame pace with the devaluation of the currency in 2024. This means their dollar gdp was still connected to their currency gdp. In Nigeria, prices in general do not move at thesame pace as the devaluation immediately but over time. So for instance if a piece of land cost 400,000 naira when naira was 400 in 2022, that land would have been $1000 then as well. In 2025, with naira at 1600, that Land should now be x4 which would be 1.6 million naira to make it remain at $1000. But in Nigeria, you would probably find that the land has increased only x3 at most in several of these instances and for some x2 or x2.5. So the land only increased to 1.1 or 1.2 million since 2022 (when it should have increased to 1.6 million at once with same volume of purchases or consumption). So the dollar value of the land still decreases by that much even though the naira value has grown tremendously. In that situation, it would only take a few quarters for prices and consumption volumes to match up again especially if the currency becomes stable like we saw in 2018 and 2019 in Nigeria after a rough 2016. We already began to see huge consumption and profits in over 90% of Q1 2025 results across all sectors. That shows price increase is catching up (e.g telcos only increased their prices in February 2025 for the first time since 2013 despite all the inflation and devaluation) and it also shows consumption power is growing again from low levels of 2023 and 2024 due to slight wage adjustments across board especially by the private sector and some states. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:24am On May 11, 2025 |
Just40:nobody needs strong economic background to tackle Ghana's economic outlook. It's a laughing stock amongst economist. Ask around. I can't count the number of times I've been at economic gatherings where they made jest of Ghana's economy. Looks good on paper, shitty in reality. So, rest. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by POKUASI2: 1:39pm On May 11, 2025*. Modified: 1:55pm On May 11, 2025 |
vaxx:This guy is a chronic liar who lives in an alternative world. In mid 2022, a box of our product was going for 350 cedis.. Today, it's going for 1080 cedis. Ghanaians are dying of inflation induced hunger. Example, a cup of cooked rice at say champion dishes was going for 3 cedis in 2022.. that same cup of cooked rice is 12 cedis as at today. In 2022, a bottle of 1.5 liter of coke was 10 cedis, today, it's 35 cedis.. Before in Ghana, with 5 cedis, you can eat cooked rice with boiled egg but today, that same boiled egg is going for 4 cedis and cooked rice starts from 10 cedis. Mind you, daily minimum wage in this same Ghana is 19.97cedis.. So your daily minimum wage can only buy you breakfast. It'll cost you averagely, 35 cedis to eat a plate of food meanwhile, daily minimum wage is 19.97 cedis. Now times 19.97cedis by 30 and see what you'll get then we can factor in utilities, rent etc so you see how these people are suffering. Me for example, I spend 500 cedis buying electricity every single month.. Now calculate 19.97 times 30 days and see if you won't get 555.10.. now factor in rent, feeding, utilities etc and see how Ghanaians are suffering but pretending
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 2:36pm On May 11, 2025 |
@GeneralDae, theenchanter and co you guys really have patience debating with someone who's economy defaulted on Eurobond payments, currently owe significant sums to IMF and currency is appreciating due to suspension of debt till next year. |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:10pm On May 11, 2025 |
chrisooblog:defaulting on payment isn't a biggy , Ghana is never gonna be the first nor the last. Argentina a better well stable country is even known to be a great defaulters. Check them today . What happens is what are the practical obligations ahead that will put the economy on check. Ghana cedis is actually strengthen because there are more forex in the economy and the demand of dollar is been put into check . |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:11pm On May 11, 2025 |
chrisooblog:Ghana is earning more . This is one of the key reasons for cedis stabilization . it’s now mandatory that all gold transactions be conducted with the Ghana Cedis only Below is the unprecedented revenues coming in as compared to the previous year
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| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:14pm On May 11, 2025 |
POKUASI2:you are blabbing. Inflation is well control in Ghana now than Nigeria No time to rant . Check cement price for the first quarter despite having Dangote and compare it to the current price now |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 5:15pm On May 11, 2025 |
Ok. vaxx: |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:16pm On May 11, 2025 |
theenchanter:I am sure they share the same type of brain with you . Once I begin to ask for what is shitty now. It is either you instructed the bot to ban me or you begin ranting |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 5:21pm On May 11, 2025*. Modified: 6:44pm On May 11, 2025 |
chrisooblog:you don't need to quote back . Nigeria is also known to suspend payments, I am aware you don't know. For your info, Nigeria is known to also delay payment ( coupon issues )Nigeria always have a filmsy excuse instead of being honest . Anyway, Ghana suspend dept payment, Nigeria refinance ( borrowed to pay existing debt) who is better than who |
| Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 5:26pm On May 11, 2025 |
Ok. vaxx: |
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