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Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by DMerciful(m): 1:39pm On May 11, 2025
The Obidient movement is 4 persons tweeting in a room

Obi will not win one state. Obi is like Andrew Liver salt...bla bla bla.

Obi won the election but was rigged out by the establishment.

You've started version 2 of bla bla bla
Zocalite:
Ridiculous ticket

Anything short of Atiku & obi as vp is not going to fly

Or Atiku - seyi makinde

Christians that voted for obi the last time will not vote for him and even igbos will not vote fully for him

Who's elrufai, if elrufai was valuable tinubu will not let him leave
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 1:40pm On May 11, 2025
omonnakoda:
Not Tribal

By the way open a dictionary and check the real meaning of the word Tribe

I am telling you the reality of Nigeria

NOT ME

Nigeria

An Igbo man cannot be president

Now are you not a hypocrite

Are you not on record lambasting Muslim Muslim ticket?

How did the Igbos vote in 2023? Before you accuse anyone of anything look in the Mirror

Nigeria is where we are today partly because of what Igbos did in January 1966 and How Aguiyi-Ironsi managed it

It might be inconvenient for you to remember but Nigerians have not

We as a group(Nigerians) do not Trust the Igbos in politics and they have not done anything to gain that Trust

No matter how bad Tinubu is Muslims in the North will choose him over Obi

Obi even has a better chance in the SW than the North but how will Igbos vote? ALL FOR OBI and you thinks Nigerians are stupid huh
Which North, is it Plateau, Nassarawa, Taraba, Southern kaduna, Katsina or Benue where most of those who fought during the civil war on the Nigerian army side are from?
Tally the results from these areas and see who emerged winner. All these shenanigans are fake. But what do I care, a Deltan will become President of Nigeria soon.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 1:41pm On May 11, 2025
victorDanladi:
Do PDP still have big wigs grin
Is Wike a joke to you?
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by muyico(m): 1:44pm On May 11, 2025
APC go get serious problem in 2027, if they don't give dem returns tickets, dose APC competite with u in last election, do think dey come fry garri nih?
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by KillVDMnow: 1:46pm On May 11, 2025
Akujuriobi:
Lie.

quote author=KillVDMnow post=135322064]PDP should concentrate on South South,South West and North Central only,Tinubu has bought all core North and South east love him organically, there's no need going to those regions.
True
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 1:56pm On May 11, 2025
omonnakoda:
Peter Obi and Atiku are part of the status quo if not worse

What will they do differently?

Bring back petrol subsidy

Produce yam , rice and cassava on a scale the world has never seen before?


Your motivation for all this crap is your frustrated Obidient syndrome. You invested so much emotion as an Obidient and have failed to come to terms with reality. HE LOST

You fail to acknowledge the inherent problems of our political structure and presidential system

No president will change the status quo

Any system that does not devolve power from Abuja will have limited impact
The onus is on the governors NOT the president. What is needed is even smaller federal government .There is no messiah president coming to save Nigerians

Such devolution will NEVER happen with any Fulani in charge

It will not happen with Obi in charge
Tinubu that has been there for some time now has failed to do that. This reason here was the singular reason I wanted to vote for him ahead of Obi (Atiku was never an option despite me being a Deltan and all my guys in politics were lobbying me to support him). When Tinubu won I was even happy, aside the FCT issue that I saw misinterpretation of the law in, I believed in Tinubu's regionalism mantra, I believed he will decisively deal with killer herdsmen rampaging the middlebelt and even though I knew he was very corrupt, I had this Ibori mindset that as long as he is working and it is visible everywhere, he can be collecting what he wants on a low. I even joined APC if you don't believe me. Fast forward to today, the federal government is stronger than before, only Lagos State is benefitting from "Tinubu's decentralization" (relocation of cbn et al), killer herdsmen and boko haram attack is now a daily occurrence with scores being killed and kidnapped, corruption cases are more mindblowing in just 2 years ( inflation of nelfund, nnpc scam, etc. ). We are not seeing federal government presence in Delta and in the south south, You are a human being, does Tinubu deserve reelection?
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by tunapawizzy: 2:16pm On May 11, 2025
DMerciful:
All the coalition needs to do is throw up this ticket and it's game over for Tinubu
take it easy on this exaggeration of Elrufai's political capital. Brilliant administrator, but he brings very very little value to the ticket in terms of votes.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by DMerciful(m): 2:19pm On May 11, 2025
So who do you think should be there?
tunapawizzy:
take it easy on this exaggeration of Elrufai's political capital. Brilliant administrator, but he brings very very little value to the ticket in terms of votes.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by victorDanladi: 2:26pm On May 11, 2025
WhizdomXX:
Is Wike a joke to you?
😆 😆
But he is not in that meeting na
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by saintmm(m): 2:29pm On May 11, 2025
Coldspice:
Firstly, you don't make a charismatic and ambitious person your deputy. That's a rookie mistake.

Secondly, the only ticket today that can rattle Tinubu is Atiku/Obi. Any other one is just efforts in futility.
To prevent that, APC is doing different things.

1. Northern politicians who are ambitious are being lured away from Atiku with the promise that 2031 is open for Presidency.

2. Eastern politicians who are ambitious are being told 2031 is open for VP slot. That's why Eastern Governors today across all parties are for Tinubu.

3. Making sure Atiku doesn't run under PDP. That's Wike's department.
This your analysis is so good and real. As it stands, every single thing apart from the masses had been taken care of against 2027 by Pa Tinubu. Latest by next year, the masses will be addressed and by 2027, he's declare winner before the election closed.
Nigerians can easily be appeased and divided, the understanding of this is a great strategy on the hand of those politicians.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by ejimatic: 3:43pm On May 11, 2025
DMerciful:
All the coalition needs to do is throw up this ticket and it's game over for Tinubu
I laugh Tinubucally! grin grin
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by honeyB2018: 3:46pm On May 11, 2025
OracleJay411:
"SUMMONED"... Sounds arrogant.

May PDP never rise again!!
If PDP in either their NEC meeting or National Convention refuse to expel Wike and his co- travellers, Ayo Fayose and all those involved in the anti- party that have brought the party to where it's now, may PDP die for ever and never be resuscitated for ever and ever.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by omonnakoda: 3:57pm On May 11, 2025
WhizdomXX:
Tinubu that has been there for some time now has failed to do that. This reason here was the singular reason I wanted to vote for him ahead of Obi (Atiku was never an option despite me being a Deltan and all my guys in politics were lobbying me to support him). When Tinubu won I was even happy, aside the FCT issue that I saw misinterpretation of the law in, I believed in Tinubu's regionalism mantra, I believed he will decisively deal with killer herdsmen rampaging the middlebelt and even though I knew he was very corrupt, I had this Ibori mindset that as long as he is working and it is visible everywhere, he can be collecting what he wants on a low. I even joined APC if you don't believe me. Fast forward to today, the federal government is stronger than before, only Lagos State is benefitting from "Tinubu's decentralization" (relocation of cbn et al), killer herdsmen and boko haram attack is now a daily occurrence with scores being killed and kidnapped, corruption cases are more mindblowing in just 2 years ( inflation of nelfund, nnpc scam, etc. ). We are not seeing federal government presence in Delta and in the south south, You are a human being, does Tinubu deserve reelection?
Can you summarize this / This is too long


What is your point?
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by highchief1: 4:04pm On May 11, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
Waste of time....

With Delta State gone, PDP can never recover again.
delta rivers and akwaibom has been the life wire of pdp.with these 3 states going down to apc no magician can revive pdp.funding of a party is sacrosanct.no be cho cho cho.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by tunapawizzy: 4:15pm On May 11, 2025
DMerciful:
So who do you think should be there?
Sadly all the politically useful northerners prefer to side with Tinubu in 2027. I still maintain that the only ticket that can challenge Tinubu is Atiku/Obi ticket. I am not proud that I am saying atiku for president, but that is just the reality of Nigeria. Very high numbers will most likely come for TInubu in Kano, Katsina, Jigawa,Sokoto, Kebbi if a strong northerner isn't on the ballot. And he has power now-him and inec will write Lagos numbers in 2027.
Tinubu's influence is also growing in the south south and that is very very big dent on obi's numbers. The coalition or main opposition needs a really good showing in the North, its got to be a very big northern politician.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by OracleJay411: 4:44pm On May 11, 2025
honeyB2018:
If PDP in either their NEC meeting or National Convention refuse to expel Wike and his co- travellers, Ayo Fayose and all those involved in the anti- party that have brought the party to where it's now, may PDP die for ever and never be resuscitated for ever and ever.
That won't change anything
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 6:39pm On May 11, 2025
omonnakoda:
Can you summarize this / This is too long


What is your point?
You are a human being, does Tinubu deserve reelection?
My point is as a human being, he does not.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by omonnakoda: 6:53pm On May 11, 2025
WhizdomXX:
You are a human being, does Tinubu deserve reelection?
My point is as a human being, he does not.
I am not a Tinubu representative
I am not here to speak for him

Your remark about human being is childish and sentimental

Let us talk like adults

If you think he does not deserve reelection do not vote for him

At the moment in my opinion it is too early to talk about reelection . BUT when we get there my main consideration would be

Who is the alternative candidate. huh

If it is Obi or Atiku 100 times I will prefer Tinubu.

If there is a better opinion than Tinubu IN MY OPINION I will go for that.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 6:56pm On May 11, 2025
omonnakoda:
I am not a Tinubu representative
I am not here to speak for him

Your remark about human being is childish and sentimental

Let us talk like adults

If you think he does not deserve reelection do not vote for him

At the moment in my opinion it is too early to talk about reelection . BUT when we get there my main consideration would be

Who is the alternative candidate. huh

If it is Obi or Atiku 100 times I will prefer Tinubu.

If there is a better opinion than Tinubu IN MY OPINION I will go for that.
In your opinion, with the current state of misgovernance, how is Tinubu better than Atiku or Obi. Use KPIs .
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by omonnakoda: 7:06pm On May 11, 2025
WhizdomXX:
In your opinion, with the current state of misgovernance, how is Tinubu better than Atiku or Obi. Use KPIs .
I am not here for debate or back and forth

You asked me a question and I answered you.

I am not trying to persuade you of anything
I am not interested in a debate or argument
You will not persuade me of your belief

My belief is that a large number of Obidients have not recovered from 2023 and are still bitter

When the electioneering starts we shall see who the alternative candidates are and choose

For me if we think Tinubu should be changed it cannot be Obi or Atiku but I would have only one vote

You cannot use KPIs to compare Tinubu who is president with Obi or Atiku who have never been. It is illogical

You might as well suggest a KPI comparison with Very Dark man

You need to improve your logic game
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by Igirigimercenar: 8:01pm On May 11, 2025
Themanleshey:
Tinubu has failed in your delusional head and that of other people reasoning like you. You guys have decided not to face reality and let your emotions play a big one on you. Can’t you see that people are now wiser and you are now alone in this your Obi thing 😝


Even the ones that supported you in the past, most of them are now wiser.

Common election campaign money to come and give account l, Obi, Aisha Yusefu and the party chairman are running from accountability.
. It is obvious you don't live in Nigeria
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by honeyB2018: 8:17pm On May 11, 2025
[quote author=OracleJay411 post=135327203

That won't change anything[/quote]It will,if Wike and his cohorts are shown the way out of the party. The party will experience peace, trust me.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by stuffs2002: 10:53pm On May 11, 2025
DMerciful:
All the coalition needs to do is throw up this ticket and it's game over for Tinubu
When even your governor and Okowa have ported to the APC. Tinubu would beaat the hell out of those two on election day and they both know it.

On another note, Was it not you and your gang attacking same El-Rufai two years ago?
Where exactly will you be hiding Atiku?

Tinubu will ride on the back of Obi to win the 2027 elections just as he did in the 2023 elections

Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by stuffs2002: 11:07pm On May 11, 2025
DMerciful:
Its whether the Northerners trust him not to be docile when matters if the North is being discussed or not.

Tinubu has failed the North si they'll not vote for him 2027
Hahaha...

Who appointed you as the spokesperson of the north?
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by Akpakomiza2: 11:19pm On May 11, 2025
WhizdomXX:
Tinubu that has been there for some time now has failed to do that. This reason here was the singular reason I wanted to vote for him ahead of Obi (Atiku was never an option despite me being a Deltan and all my guys in politics were lobbying me to support him). When Tinubu won I was even happy, aside the FCT issue that I saw misinterpretation of the law in, I believed in Tinubu's regionalism mantra, I believed he will decisively deal with killer herdsmen rampaging the middlebelt and even though I knew he was very corrupt, I had this Ibori mindset that as long as he is working and it is visible everywhere, he can be collecting what he wants on a low. I even joined APC if you don't believe me. Fast forward to today, the federal government is stronger than before, only Lagos State is benefitting from "Tinubu's decentralization" (relocation of cbn et al), killer herdsmen and boko haram attack is now a daily occurrence with scores being killed and kidnapped, corruption cases are more mindblowing in just 2 years ( inflation of nelfund, nnpc scam, etc. ). We are not seeing federal government presence in Delta and in the south south, You are a human being, does Tinubu deserve reelection?
How was the law misinterpreted in Fct
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by DMerciful(m): 11:24pm On May 11, 2025
You're just a kid
stuffs2002:
When even your governor and Okowa have ported to the APC. Tinubu would beaat the hell out of those two on election day and they both know it.

On another note, Was it not you and your gang attacking same El-Rufai two years ago?
Where exactly will you be hiding Atiku?

Tinubu will ride on the back of Obi to win the 2027 elections just as he did in the 2023 elections
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by Themanleshey: 11:48pm On May 11, 2025
Igirigimercenar:
. It is obvious you don't live in Nigeria
I guess you are the one who don’t live in Nigeria or easily forget things. Y’all are shouting that rice and beans price has gone up, but you forgot that past government couldn’t pay common 33,000 minimum wage, the economy was so bad that they were owing 8 months salary , some can’t even pay the 33k minimum wage, they were paying 18k. So you all want the government to remain broke and be using money to subsidize fuel for cabals and subsidize forex too .

No one runs an economy like that.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by OracleJay411: 1:49am On May 12, 2025
[quote author=honeyB2018 post=135329770][/quote]Is Wike causing problems in North PDP? Is he causing problems in SW PDP? Wike is not the problem of PDP, Atiku and his ambition are.
Wike gave his soul to PDP and made PDP stand after the disarrayed when Atiku and co walked out because of Jonathan. They came back and met a PDP that Wike was the soul and rallying point for PDP and betrayed Wike
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by Igirigimercenar: 5:23am On May 12, 2025
Themanleshey:
I guess you are the one who don’t live in Nigeria or easily forget things. Y’all are shouting that rice and beans price has gone up, but you forgot that past government couldn’t pay common 33,000 minimum wage, the economy was so bad that they were owing 8 months salary , some can’t even pay the 33k minimum wage, they were paying 18k. So you all want the government to remain broke and be using money to subsidize fuel for cabals and subsidize forex too .

No one runs an economy like that.
. I still reiterate, you don't live in Nigeria with us

You don't know what is going on here except what you see online
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by WhizdomXX(m): 8:34pm On May 12, 2025
Akpakomiza2:
How was the law misinterpreted in Fct
I felt the law stated you need 25% in 24 states and the fct. I am not a lawyer but I love law. It was interpreted otherwise.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by Akpakomiza2: 10:17pm On May 12, 2025
WhizdomXX:
I felt the law stated you need 25% in 24 states and the fct. I am not a lawyer but I love law. It was interpreted otherwise.
Thank God you said you are not a lawyer and the lawyers interpreted it from the legal point. But first, why should getting 25% be compulsory? Fct is less than a state in reality and therefore cannot be elevated above a state. When we are talking about the whole federation, we usually use And to capture or include the Fct.
Re: Mass Defections: PDP Govs In Emergency Talks With Party Bigwigs by honeyB2018: 10:54pm On May 12, 2025
OracleJay411:
Is Wike causing problems in North PDP? Is he causing problems in SW PDP? Wike is not the problem of PDP, Atiku and his ambition are.
Wike gave his soul to PDP and made PDP stand after the disarrayed when Atiku and co walked out because of Jonathan. They came back and met a PDP that Wike was the soul and rallying point for PDP and betrayed Wike
You don't really understand the problem of PDP. Who engineered the removal of Sheriff and Secondus as PDP chairmen?
If not Tinubu and his APC, Wike would have been goner before now in PDP.
Did you listen to his comment recently about the PDP up coming NEC meeting, that NEC meeting without Samuel Anyawu as secretary, will be challenged, even when the supreme court have said the issue of who becomes the secretary of the party is an internal affairs of the party, is it not a way of throwing the party under the bus again?
Wike is working to ensure that the party presents a weak presidential candidate for 2027, that Tinubu can easily defeat. He has already pledged his allegiance to Tinubu and APC for 2027 election, so what else again?
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