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Angels, Humans What Else? by Apologize(op): 12:12am On May 13, 2025
Ok ill go straight to the point. I know God created the Arch angel first then created other angels. Before Creating Man then animals.

We also know disobidient angels became known as Demons with there leader being Satan the devil, another angel too who challenged Gods right to rule.

Now my question, in the bible we were given a detailed account of creation on earth but not in heaven.

So i ask are there lesser spirit life forms aside from Angels and demons? Like how we have lesser physical life forms like animals.

When jesus made this statement;
“When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

What kind of life form was he refering too?

Also when he casted away thousands of spirits called legion from the possessed man, what excatly did he cast away?

Demons who are simply bad angels or a lower spirit kind of wicked life form that is still part of satans kingdom.




WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Sirmwill:
He didn't specify further

The Bible didn't go into further details

Whatever you can think about it further would simply be mostly a wrong assumption

But

Apart from Angels, the book of revelations talk about beasts with Descriptions that are abnormal to the human sense...
And also, some more powerful demons are locked in different places on earth till judgement, Satan is extremely less powerful... Probably one of the weakest.
He only was able to deceive powerful ones...

So yes,there are lesser forms of demons,like Satan itself and there are more wicked demons locked down for judgement(it's in the Bible)
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:17am On May 13, 2025
Apologize:
Ok ill go straight to the point. I know God created the Arch angel first then created other angels. Before Creating Man then animals....

We also know disobidient angels became known as Demons with there leader being Satan the devil, another angel too who challenged Gods right to rule.
1) No! Animals were created before the man.

2) Rebellion and disobedience does always mean a challenge to a right to rule.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:30am On May 13, 2025
Apologize:
Now my question, in the bible we were given a detailed account of creation on earth but not in heaven.

So i ask are there lesser spirit life forms aside from Angels and demons? Like how we have lesser physical life forms like animals.

What kind of life form was he refering too?

Also when he casted away thousands of spirits called legion from the possessed man, what excatly did he cast away?

Demons who are simply bad angels or a lower spirit kind of wicked life form that is still part of satans kingdom.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
First, you have to remember that there are different heavens.

But the heaven that concerns us is the one in Genesis and in Mathew 18:18/ Mathew 24:35 which tells us that heaven and earth are co-joined Twins.

Therefore, it stands to reason that all that we have on earth is exactly what is in our heaven.

And since all these are spirits then lower or higher spirit does not matter.

What matters is that God is Greater and He is The One King Who Rules over them all!
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:38am On May 13, 2025
Sirmwill:
He didn't specify further

The Bible didn't go into further details

Whatever you can think about it further would simply be mostly a wrong assumption

But

Apart from Angels, the book of revelations talk about beasts with Descriptions that are abnormal to the human sense...
And also, some more powerful demons are locked in different places on earth till judgement, Satan is extremely less powerful... Probably one of the weakest.
He only was able to deceive powerful ones...


So yes,there are lesser forms of demons,like Satan itself and there are more wicked demons locked down for judgement(it's in the Bible)
You are wrong ooo. I once thought this.

You know see angel, wey we dey fear cool down and no fit easily defeat am to collect Moses body?

However, I have noticed that no matter how strong a person is, immediately he does a wrong or evil, gbam, he must be weak.

So Satan is weak because he is always in evil.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Gabrielshow24: 5:04pm On May 13, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You are wrong ooo. I once thought this.

You know see angel, wey we dey fear cool down and no fit easily defeat am to collect Moses body?

However, I have noticed that no matter how strong a person is, immediately he does a wrong or evil, gbam, he must be weak.

So Satan is weak because he is always in evil.
Yet one angel bound him and tossed him into the bottomless pit with ease🤨.

By the way, Satan acts as a watchdog! Nothing more, nothing less! As regards op's question, it's of necessity to manufacture an object with its manual! It will be greatly odd to issue out a different manual for a different object 🤨. Hence, it's of importance that this Heaven and Earth is greatly exemplified.

What you seek is centred towards spiritual knowledge that can only be given by God! Which depends on your relationship with God to decipher such things!

In summary, there are plethora of different spirits; those that should have been, those that are, those that have been and those that are still to come!

Also, what made you conclude that God created archangels first? 🤨 Did God also create Kings first🤔?I must have missed this memo🙃
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Sirmwill: 5:08pm On May 13, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You are wrong ooo. I once thought this.

You know see angel, wey we dey fear cool down and no fit easily defeat am to collect Moses body?

However, I have noticed that no matter how strong a person is, immediately he does a wrong or evil, gbam, he must be weak.

So Satan is weak because he is always in evil.
According to Revelations, the Same Angel led the war that would lead to the capturing of Satan

Normally God can end Satan at the snap of a finger... But the thing is that, God exists as love... I mean, the whole essence of who he is is love.
He loves so much that he would not even destroy Satan that he created
They still even have conversations. e.g When the sons of God gathered and Satan was among them, when God told Satan about Job.That conversation did not seem like a conversation between Enemies.
Satan cannot even be God's enemy.A creature cannot contend with his creator.
But for that Love, even at the end, Satan would be thrown into the Lake of Fire for eternity. Not that he would be destroyed or killed.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Kobojunkie: 5:19pm On May 13, 2025
Apologize:
➜Ok ill go straight to the point. I know God created the Arch angel first then created other angels. Before Creating Man then animals. We also know disobidient angels became known as Demons with there leader being Satan the devil, another angel too who challenged Gods right to rule. Now my question, in the bible we were given a detailed account of creation on earth but not in heaven. So i ask are there lesser spirit life forms aside from Angels and demons? Like how we have lesser physical life forms like animals.
➜ When jesus made this statement; “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” What kind of life form was he refering too?
➜ Also when he casted away thousands of spirits called legion from the possessed man, what excatly did he cast away?
➜ Demons who are simply bad angels or a lower spirit kind of wicked life form that is still part of satans kingdom. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Why do you consider animals lesser physical life forms? I mean some of them have brains and systems just as intricate as those of humans. So, how did you arrive at this conclusion of yours? undecided

2. What do you mean by life form? The message referred to the fate of the wicked generation... those of Israel(the bloodline) condemned by God's final judgment against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) by way of His Old Law of Moses. Additionally mentioned are the spirits that were to carry out the sentences as part of the judgment against the wicked generation. So, what lifeform do you mean? undecided

3. Spirits responsible for sicknesses, infirmities, like illnesses and their many other symptoms/comorbidities. undecided

4. According to Jesus Christ, demon is instead a term used for spirits that carry out or bring to fruition a curse/ailment/sickness, etc., in the life of individuals. Not lower life forms or all of that other nonsense. Demons can infect/affect/possess the bodies of people in any capacity the curse prescribes. Angels, on the other hand, are described by Jesus Christ as His followers who are sealed by Him along with those who would receive eternal reward in the end. Of course, those of them who would also end up in eternal damnation are also described as angels by him, only they are children of the devil.

What all of this means is that the religious depiction of demons as the archenemies of Angels is not of biblical origin but wholly manufactured by religion through its many lies and doctrines for the delusion-obsessed folks out there. undecided
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by eepeepook: 6:12pm On May 13, 2025
“Life is Short. Make Sure You Spend As Much Time As Possible on the Internet Arguing with Strangers.”

Kobojunkie:
Why do you consider animals lesser physical life forms? I mean some of them have brains and systems just as intricate as those of humans. So, how did you arrive at this conclusion of yours? undecided

2. What do you mean by life form? The message referred to the fate of the wicked generation... those of Israel(the bloodline) condemned by God's final judgment against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) by way of His Old Law of Moses. Additionally mentioned are the spirits that were to carry out the sentences as part of the judgment against the wicked generation. So, what lifeform do you mean? undecided

3. Spirits responsible for sicknesses, infirmities, like illnesses and their many other symptoms/comorbidities. undecided

4. According to Jesus Christ, demon is instead a term used for spirits that carry out or bring to fruition a curse/ailment/sickness, etc., in the life of individuals. Not lower life forms or all of that other nonsense. Demons can infect/affect/possess the bodies of people in any capacity the curse prescribes. Angels, on the other hand, are described by Jesus Christ as His followers who are sealed by Him along with those who would receive eternal reward in the end. Of course, those of them who would also end up in eternal damnation are also described as angels by him, only they are children of the devil.

What all of this means is that the religious depiction of demons as the archenemies of Angels is not of biblical origin but wholly manufactured by religion through its many lies and doctrines for the delusion-obsessed folks out there. undecided
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On May 13, 2025
Sirmwill:
➜He didn't specify further. The Bible didn't go into further details. Whatever you can think about it further would simply be mostly a wrong assumption But
➜Apart from Angels, the book of revelations talk about beasts with Descriptions that are abnormal to the human sense...
➜ And also, some more powerful demons are locked in different places on earth till judgement, Satan is extremely less powerful... Probably one of the weakest. He only was able to deceive powerful ones... So yes,there are lesser forms of demons,like Satan itself and there are more wicked demons locked down for judgement(it's in the Bible)
The book quoted contains all the information necessary to comprehend what Jesus Christ of Israel meant. undecided

2. You instead mean abnormal to those who lack basic language comprehension skills, that is? undecided

3. What is with this gobbledegook now? Just state you have no clues at all and move on. undecided
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Sirmwill: 7:35am On May 14, 2025
Kobojunkie:
The book quoted contains all the information necessary to comprehend what Jesus Christ of Israel meant. undecided

2. You instead mean abnormal to those who lack basic language comprehension skills, that is? undecided

3. What is with this gobbledegook now? Just state you have no clues at all and move on. undecided
Okay
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:08pm On May 14, 2025
Sirmwill:
According to Revelations, the Same Angel led the war that would lead to the capturing of Satan...
At the Command of The LORD, Who of course must give him power to above and beyond whatever he could do so as to succeed.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:33pm On May 14, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Yet one angel bound him and tossed him into the bottomless pit with ease🤨...
That na Angel wey no man don ever see na. Hin na special angel. Him na Angel wey God create to get power pass Satan. So hin no join as hin no be the normal angel wey we know

Gabrielshow24:
By the way, Satan acts as a watchdog!
If he is a watchdog then it means that he is an employee of God entitled to retirement. But we see him being warred against like FG warring against Anini and when they catch he is sentenced to Firing Squad.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Gabrielshow24: 8:15am On May 15, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
That na Angel wey no man don ever see na. Hin na special angel. Him na Angel wey God create to get power pass Satan. So hin no join as hin no be the normal angel wey we know



If he is a watchdog then it means that he is an employee of God entitled to retirement. But we see him being warred against like FG warring against Anini and when they catch he is sentenced to Firing Squad.
Perhaps I didn't put context to my watchdog rhetoric. He is a watchdog in the sense of trying his best to make God follow his own rules and thereby not show Mercy nor Grace.

Well, he is an antagonist of God because he tries to use God's law against him and his sons!

As touching the Angel, that angel wasn't a special angel—that's just special pleading 🤔. Every Angel is well equipped to bound Satan with ease after all he is fallen and weak but the time is not right, as at now so they hold their peace! Don't also forget they once hurled him and his hosts out of heaven—with relative ease!
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:13am On May 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Perhaps I didn't put context to my watchdog rhetoric. He is a watchdog in the sense of trying his best to make God follow his own rules and thereby not show Mercy nor Grace.
This is not correct either as God does not have not anyone watching over Him to do Good, so also does He not have Satan or anyone to watch over Him to do evil.

Thus, Satan is just acting out because he was Cursed just like Pharoah. This is where you get appreciate the Truth of that our local saying which says "whom God wants to destroy He first makes mad"

Gabrielshow24:
As touching the Angel, that angel wasn't a special angel—that's just special pleading 🤔. Every Angel is well equipped to bound Satan with ease after all he is fallen and weak but the time is not right, as at now so they hold their peace! Don't also forget they once hurled him and his hosts out of heaven—with relative ease!
See, you used the word "they" which means many. Compared to that wonderful angel whom he alone bounded him and tossed him into that great beyond.

Clearly, angel pass Angel oo.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by orisa37: 4:49am On May 16, 2025
GOD IS SUPREME SPIRIT. WHO CREATED IT?
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by orisa37: 5:00am On May 16, 2025
GOD IS SUPREME SPIRIT. WHO CREATED IT?


IS SATAN PART OF GODHEAD?
WHY IS SATAN, LUCIFER, DEVIL AND WHATEVER NAME U CALL "THE BAD AS AGAINST THE GOOD" SO SO JEALOUS, COVETOUS, IMPATIENT AND RUDE?
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by orisa37: 5:26am On May 16, 2025
GOD IS SUPREME SPIRIT. WHO CREATED IT?


IS SATAN PART OF GODHEAD?
WHY IS SATAN, LUCIFER, DEVIL AND WHATEVER NAME U CALL "THE BAD AS AGAINST THE GOOD" SO SO JEALOUS, COVETOUS, IMPATIENT AND RUDE?


GOD IS SO POWERFUL, WHY? AND WHY IS SATAN SO SHAMELESSLY ALWAYS CHALLENGING IT? IS IT BECAUSE GOD IS ALONE? GOD ISN'T ALONE. HE HAS ANGELS, SPIRITS, LIVING BEINGS, TWENTY FOUR ELDERS, SON JESUS (ODUDUIWA) AND HIS APOSTLES AT HIS BECK AND CALL.
FEAR GOD AND OBEY HIS COMMAND.
Re: Angels, Humans What Else? by orisa37: 5:39am On May 16, 2025
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

GOD IS OMNIPOTENT, OMNIARTS, OMNISCIENT AND OMNIEVERYTHING.. ONLY GOD IS WISDOM WILLS AND WONDERS AND ONLY GOD IS JEALOUS.
FEAR HIM AND OBEY HIS COMMAND.
GOD IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION.
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