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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debeey87(m): 10:54pm On May 14, 2025
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mutmut: 12:19am On May 15, 2025
hslbroker2:
This is approximately N500k

Excluding workmanship

What is the location of this project?

So I can apply discount for you.
The materials will be used in Ibadan.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 1:02am On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 7:30am On May 15, 2025
erico2k2:
you my friend has got the right Idea
Thank you sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingsinterior(m): 8:36am On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingsinterior(m): 8:38am On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kingsinterior(m): 8:43am On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dollarnaira(m): 9:59am On May 15, 2025
Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:30am On May 15, 2025
bimsite:
Hi everyone, can anyone kindly recommend who can handle central sewage system for small facility?
Where is the site location and is there an existing design drawing for the project?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:43am On May 15, 2025
dollarnaira:
Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.
I want to believe the your use of term "stack" means blocks with mortar mix are laid one on top another horizontally and vertically.
If that's the case then it's only advisable that one uses sharp sand and portalnd cement.



I hope you are not mixing it up.
The only time where clay is used in place of plastering sand or gum sand is when plastering works or rendering on walls is to be done.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:48pm On May 15, 2025
debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.
The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing the leak.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by m2cad: 2:15pm On May 15, 2025
Moulding blocks with "plaster sand" is a heavy misnomer. The particle size distribution is largely very fine and cannot pass the minimum sieve gradation

Street explanation had it that it "gums" and so will reduce the quantity of cement used for production.

Plaster sand is clayey and is an enemy in engineering practice. It can be subjected to heat (in a klin) before use to reduce the moisture content before use


dollarnaira:
Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by m2cad: 2:19pm On May 15, 2025
Would be good to factually understand the issue rather than assuming

If the original installer isnt available, it will be advised to trace the line and locate the possible fault.

Breaking up the wall is a preferred bitter truth

debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by m2cad: 2:23pm On May 15, 2025
I think the number of columns can be reduced considerably

Is this planned for a bungalow or a storey or 2 stories building?

No need for any form "double pillar"

Obinnau:
My dear builders, Please tell me what you think of this plan especially in the terms of the structural plans. do you think the pillars are well spaced? Y16 (4 rods per column) is projected to be used for the ground floor. is there need for a double pillar anywhere?

Also you can comment on other observations that you think can be made. I will appreciate your comments.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bimsite(f): 2:34pm On May 15, 2025
bixton:
Where is the site location and is there an existing design drawing for the project?
Yes there is, and site location is Mainland, Lagos.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debeey87(m): 2:40pm On May 15, 2025
diordaves:
The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

I had another discussion with the new plumber today, we opted to chisel the walls find the leak and fix it. Thanks for your thought

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing the leak.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debeey87(m): 2:41pm On May 15, 2025
m2cad:
Would be good to factually understand the issue rather than assuming

If the original installer isnt available, it will be advised to trace the line and locate the possible fault.

Breaking up the wall is a preferred bitter truth
Thank you. That's what we will do
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:09pm On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dollarnaira(m): 3:27pm On May 15, 2025
m2cad:
Moulding blocks with "plaster sand" is a heavy misnomer. The particle size distribution is largely very fine and cannot pass the minimum sieve gradation

Street explanation had it that it "gums" and so will reduce the quantity of cement used for production.

Plaster sand is clayey and is an enemy in engineering practice. It can be subjected to heat (in a klin) before use to reduce the moisture content before use
Not moulding blocks oooo grin grin grin.

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cold141114(m): 3:34pm On May 15, 2025
dollarnaira:
Not moulding blocks oooo grin grin grin.

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....
If the usages will be more than 3000 blocks
See you will waste materials ehn

Because sharpsand/sandy soil is different from plaster/clay/loamy soil..... Bricklayers go waste materials like mad

Because where one handful trowel of sharpsand will fill will eventually be taking two handful trowel of plastering sand


The thing go just dey fall anyhow
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cold141114(m): 3:35pm On May 15, 2025
dollarnaira:
Not moulding blocks oooo grin grin grin.

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....
Except if its case of like 100 or less blocks... You won't be wasting much of cement
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gentlesoul83(m): 3:55pm On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dollarnaira(m): 4:27pm On May 15, 2025
Cold141114:
If the usages will be more than 3000 blocks
See you will waste materials ehn

Because sharpsand/sandy soil is different from plaster/clay/loamy soil..... Bricklayers go waste materials like mad

Because where one handful trowel of sharpsand will fill will eventually be taking two handful trowel of plastering sand


The thing go just dey fall anyhow
Thanks bro.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 6:09pm On May 15, 2025
When I have had this problem the culprit has been

1) Waste, pipes and tiles not properly connected and/ sealed so further leaks through the sides of the tiles.

2) Initial plan and plumbing for additional waste when bathroom is washed but tiler covered the spot so we did not see this until the leak from the wall and at least one attempt of changing the bend and re sealing which did not work.

debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 6:19pm On May 15, 2025
There is one sand they call 3 in 1 in Ayobo area but it is more sharp than plaster and I only used it for fence work.

Mi aroron. I no want katakata problem in the future but people use it to build and plaster.

bixton:
I want to believe the your use of term "stack" means blocks with mortar mix are laid one on top another horizontally and vertically.
If that's the case then it's only advisable that one uses sharp sand and portalnd cement.



I hope you are not mixing it up.
The only time where clay is used in place of plastering sand or gum sand is when plastering works or rendering on walls is to be done.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debeey87(m): 7:20pm On May 15, 2025
So what solution was used eventually?
gabbytabby:
When I have had this problem the culprit has been

1) Waste, pipes and tiles not properly connected and/ sealed so further leaks through the sides of the tiles.

2) Initial plan and plumbing for additional waste when bathroom is washed but tiler covered the spot so we did not see this until the leak from the wall and at least one attempt of changing the bend and re sealing which did not work.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 7:54pm On May 15, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:00pm On May 15, 2025
diordaves:
The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing
the leak.
The bolded is just apt✓
I hope the OP understands & follows your message, rather than finding temporary solutions or alternatives, just find & face the problem, then fix it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:35pm On May 15, 2025
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