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Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op):
It is simplistic foolishness to think that the classification of people into Black or White is due to the colour of their skin.

What has skin complexion got to do with intelligence quotient or spirituality?

White people are the people with white skin and black people are the people with black skin, this is the entirely wrong simplistic rendition or explanation of a pervading theory.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 10:00pm On May 15, 2025
The Roman empire is presently running then earth, and the language of Rome is Latin. The roman empire created Black and White people

One must look toward Latin to understand the real meaning of being called black by a roman. The word BLACK in Latin connotes death, lack of evolution, evil, wickedness all things negative.

The usage of the word BLACK also retains a negative connotation
Black day
Black maria
Black sheep
Blackmail
Black market etc
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 10:00pm On May 15, 2025
angry tongue
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 7:44am On May 16, 2025
Song of Solomon 1:4-6
King James Version
5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.


This is the biggest passage they use to glorify blackness. But this is a passage on slavery. The person is lamenting his slavery and servitude. He is black (mentally and spiritually dead) but he is still handsome.

His mother's children enslaved him. The sun has looked upon him makepingbhim more deeply melanated.

He scrunges and slaves for others to eat and drink but he cannot do anything for himself
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 8:34am On May 16, 2025
If the classification of people into black and white is by phenotypes and phenotypic appearance, then there will be no basis for the one drop rule. Who propounded the none drop rule, and for what purpose? The one drop rule says that even if ytou have one drop of black blood inside you, you could be white as paper, you are black! Was this rule propounded in Africa by Africans or black people?

If it is by skin colour and complexion, would you agree that Pope Leo XIV is black? Yet the new Pope is a Blackman.

The point is, all this black and white classification of people was never about their phenotype or physical appearances in terms of skin colour or hue or complexion, it is something much much deeper and spiritual. It was not about phenotypes, it is more with genotypes and spirituality and mental state.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 8:36am On May 16, 2025
So if we have established that blackness or whiteness is about spirituality and not about physicality, the question is, what do the Romans mean when they call or label anyone or anything black or white?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 3:16pm On May 16, 2025
The One Drop Rule

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

The one-drop rule was a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of African ancestry ("one drop" of "black blood" )[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3][/i]

[i]This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century.[4] It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness"[5] that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in the Loving v. Virginia decision of 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 3:17pm On May 16, 2025
Black or White was never about skin colour
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op):
Blackness or Whiteness according to the people who propounded these theories is clearly about the mental and spiritual state, and about genetics, and DNA. Never about appearances. According to them, once you mix genes or mix DNA with any social or ethnic class apart from yours, automatically, the offspring of that union belongs to the parent who occupies the lower class.

So you can be whiter than snow, but if you have had an ancestor that was black, you are black

Black is the metaphor for a fallen, devolved, reduced, depressed, mental and spiritual state.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 11:00am On May 17, 2025
Jesus went down into the grave with his brethren, he was in the grave with them. Then on the third day he rose again, as the first begotten from the dead, and is now seated on the right hand of the father

E mental and spiritual grave that Judah was placed into, Jesus experienced of too, they were all in the grave together.

But now Christ is risen frommthebdeqd and become the first fruits of them that slept, everyman in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, and afterwards those that are Christ's at his coming.

So Jesus was Black, but he has risen now, from the dead. He is no longer Black. Black being the metaphor for a debased, reduced, depressed, oppressed, devolved and fallen mental and spiritual state.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 11:37pm On May 17, 2025
As Pope Leo XIV is a Black man, he cannot be the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholic Church. He can only be the nominal figure head leader to perform all the ceremonies and all those fanciful ritual things.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 11:38pm On May 17, 2025
Black means disconnection from God, living in a debased, devolved, reduced spiritual mental state.

So how can this man lead the Roman Catholic Church effectively?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 11:39pm On May 17, 2025
The temporal and spiritual leadership of Rome and the Roman Catholic Church now falls solely on His Excellence Donald 'WorldRuler' Trump.

The name Donald means world ruler
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 1:18pm On May 18, 2025
Black is used to describe people who have been confined to mental spiritual prisons waiting for the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who will come and safe them.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 2:16pm On May 18, 2025
Job 30:29-31
King James Version
30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.


This is Job bemoaning his tribulation. This is Job lamenting his life, his skin turned black because of the famine he was passing through.

What colour was Job before he turned black, or before he became a Blackman?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op):
This thread does not disparage the race that Jesus Christ is from in any way.

Jesus did not fall down from the skies, the Bible says he comes from the lineage of David, so he has people, he has brethren.

While his people - the people of his race - remain black and blind, unseeing and unhearing, he is risen from the dead and is no longer neither black nor blind, just as the Scriptures say that he is the firstborn from the dead.

The first 'black' man to read and understand can no longer be said to be black.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 7:26pm On May 18, 2025
Job 30:29-31
King James Version
30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.


This is Job bemoaning his tribulation. This is Job lamenting his life, his skin turned black because of the famine he was passing through.

What colour was Job before he turned black, or before he became a Blackman?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by sonmvayina(m): 8:20pm On May 18, 2025
Jesus is a white European. That is the colour the people who created him presented. You cant be more Catholic than the pope. You can't be more Christian than the pope. What nonsense.
They gave their God Europeans attributes and brought him to you as a conquered man to worship and now you want to change the appearance of their god. It is like a white man trying to change sango to white. When the original owners of the deity is saying it is black.
Why argue with them? You can either accept him the way it was presented to you or you don't. I didn't, because I know it will amount to idolatry.
It is not a must you follow him. If you want to worship a black deity. Then come back home. There are enough to choose from.
Why should I be arguing whether Jesus is black or white? Makes no single sense..
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by CoolUsername: 9:29pm On May 18, 2025
Self-hate is truly a sad thing to see. I hope you can learn to love yourself and your race.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 7:29am On May 19, 2025
You are the self hating ignorant one who is refusing to accept that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is one of you. If he is not 'white skin' he cannot be Jesus

CoolUsername:
Self-hate is truly a sad thing to see. I hope you can learn to love yourself and your race.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by CoolUsername: 8:25am On May 19, 2025
MrPresident1:
You are the self hating ignorant one who is refusing to accept that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is one of you. If he is not 'white skin' he cannot be Jesus
Jesus was a brown-skinned man, like all the other people who come from that area.

However, the fact that you associate blackness with negativity means that you are agreeing to the terms of racists and white supremacists. That's self-hate, my guy.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op):
All you need is just a little bit of reasoning. Being Black according to the people who separated the world into Black and White was never about skin complexion, it has always been about something deeper and more spiritual.

Blackness means death according to Rome- a state of being mentally and spiritually dead. Whiteness means being alive, a state of high mental and spiritual proficiency.

Blackmail, Black sheep, Black maria, Black market all have negative connotations, so out of all these, only Black man has a positive connotation, right?

Use your head.

CoolUsername:
Jesus was a brown-skinned man, like all the other people who come from that area.

However, the fact that you associate blackness with negativity means that you are agreeing to the terms of racists and white supremacists. That's self-hate, my guy.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op):
Black connotes suffering

Jesus has suffered once and for all

Jeremiah 14:1-3
King James Version
14 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah concerning the dearth.
2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.
3 And their nobles have sent their little ones to the waters: they came to the pits, and found no water; they returned with their vessels empty; they were ashamed and confounded, and covered their heads.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 7:37pm On May 20, 2025
1 Corinthians 15:19-21
King James Version
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by donnie(m):
Just leave the English language na ,
Heaven doesn't know that language. It is inferior, inadequate, corrupt and used for mischief. So leave it alone. You cannot build doctrine, yet alone a struggle upon English language. Or does that color also represent evil in your native tongue?
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by donnie(m):
sonmvayina:
Jesus is a white European. That is the colour the people who created him presented. You cant be more Catholic than the pope. You can't be more Christian than the pope. What nonsense.
They gave their God Europeans attributes and brought him to you as a conquered man to worship and now you want to change the appearance of their god. It is like a white man trying to change sango to white. When the original owners of the deity is saying it is black.
Why argue with them? You can either accept him the way it was presented to you or you don't. I didn't, because I know it will amount to idolatry.
It is not a must you follow him. If you want to worship a black deity. Then come back home. There are enough to choose from.
Why should I be arguing whether Jesus is black or white? Makes no single sense..
The Romans of today are not the original writers. Before the Renaissance of 1400s, all images and representations of the Christ, the saints, the church etc were of black people. Ethiopian bible which is the oldest still has those black depictions of Christ the apostles and the prophets. It is not an argument but a statement of fact. I will simply state the fact anytime any day

However, I agree we should leave their Jesus and religion for them, even though they all originated from our land. We should rather be mindful of ourselves and our Fathers (ancestors).
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MindHacker9009(m):
donnie:
The Romans of today are not the original writers. Before the Renaissance of 1400s, all images and representations of the Christ, the saints, the church etc were of black people. Ethiopian bible which is the oldest still has those black depictions of Christ the apostles and the prophets. It is not an argument but a statement of fact. I will simply state the fact anytime any day

However, I agree we should leave their Jesus and religion for them, even though they all originated from our land.
It was a missionary called Frumentius from the Roman Empire that took the story of Jesus to Ethiopia in the 4th century CE. So the Ethiopians themselves did not see Jesus to know what he looked like.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 4:49am On May 21, 2025
donnie:
Just leave the English language na ,
Heaven doesn't know that language. It is inferior, inadequate, corrupt and used for mischief. So leave it alone. You cannot build doctrine, yet alone a struggle upon English language. Or does that color also represent evil in your native tongue?
What is the connotation for Black in Latin or Aramaic?

There is no glory in being called Black.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 4:51am On May 21, 2025
donnie:
The Romans of today are not the original writers. Before the Renaissance of 1400s, all images and representations of the Christ, the saints, the church etc were of black people. Ethiopian bible which is the oldest still has those black depictions of Christ the apostles and the prophets. It is not an argument but a statement of fact. I will simply state the fact anytime any day

However, I agree we should leave their Jesus and religion for them, even though they all originated from our land. We should rather be mindful our ourselves and of our Fathers (ancestors).
Whom are you agreeing with? The stories were whitewashed and the original people in them were blacklisted.
Re: Why Jesus Cannot Remain Black by MrPresident1(op): 5:01am On May 21, 2025
MindHacker9009:
It was a missionary called Frumentius from the Roman Empire that took the story of Jesus to Ethiopia in the 4th century CE. So the Ethiopians themselves did not see Jesus to know what he looked like.
This doesn't look right. They must have heard the gospel in Ethiopia before the Romans took their version there because the Bible says a high ranking eunuch who was Ethiopia's minister of finance, chancellor of the exchequer, secretary of finance, and CBN governor, came from Ethiopia to Jerusalem to worship.

The Ethiopian eunuch who was a high ranking official would have obeyed the command to go into the world and multiply, he would have taken a better message of the gospel to Ethiopia and shared with the nobles and royalty of Ethiopia.

Acts 8:26-28
King James Version
26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.


In addition, if it was Rome who took Jesus to Ethiopia, then it is a false fake Jesus they took to Ethiopia. The reason is simple, everything from Rome is a lie, Rome will practise and prosper in its falsehoods until the time allocated for it is over.

Daniel 8:12
King James Version
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
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