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Re: The Antichrist Effect by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:47am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
Especially when Jesus said the second coming will occur before people alive at that time die off.
No he never said that even the Bible says it was a great misconception in the first century:

Peter turned around and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, the one who at the evening meal had also leaned back on his chest and said: “Lord, who is the one betraying you?” So when he caught sight of him, Peter said to Jesus: “Lord, what about this man?” Jesus said to him: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.” So the saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but he said: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?” John 21:20-23

Check the highlighted in green, red and blue Jesus never said people living that time will not die before his return even though John outlived all his fellow apostles he also died because Jesus never promised what they thought!
Re: The Antichrist Effect by DeepSight(m): 6:31am On May 22, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
No he never said that even the Bible says it was a great misconception in the first century:

Peter turned around and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, the one who at the evening meal had also leaned back on his chest and said: “Lord, who is the one betraying you?” So when he caught sight of him, Peter said to Jesus: “Lord, what about this man?” Jesus said to him: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.” So the saying went out among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but he said: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?” John 21:20-23

Check the highlighted in green, red and blue Jesus never said people living that time will not die before his return even though John outlived all his fellow apostles he also died because Jesus never promised what they thought!
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I am referring to Matt 16:27-28

For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 6:44am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
Especially when Jesus said the second coming will occur before people alive at that time die off.
Watch them spin that into something else.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 6:52am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
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I am referring to Matt 16:27-28

For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom
Paul's writings make it seem imminent. Yet here we are 2000 years later.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
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I am referring to Matt 16:27-28

For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom
When Jesus made that statement Peter, James and John were among those standing right there with him that is exactly what he is saying because most Jews in the first century were looking forward to see the Christ in his glory as the the one coming {Matthew 12:38} all he's doing is preaching, teaching and performing miracles which many prophets did before him so they wanted to see something extraordinary at least to prove that he is truly the one all prophets before him has been talking about.
So the next day Jesus took Peter, James and John to a place only these three and right there before their very eyes Jesus was transfigured in fact they saw Moses and Elijah speaking with Jesus a sign that all the prophets will come back to life due to what Jesus is about to do with his life {John 11:25-28} and then they heard the voice of God saying:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5

Instantly Peter, James and John realized they have SEEN what billions will later in future times SEE about their friend: Jesus! 2Peter 1:17-18
Re: The Antichrist Effect by DeepSight(m): 9:05am On May 22, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
When Jesus made that statement Peter, James and John were among those standing right there with him that is exactly what he is saying because most Jews in the first century were looking forward to see the Christ in his glory as the the one coming {Matthew 12:38} all he's doing is preaching, teaching and performing miracles which many prophets did before him so they wanted to see something extraordinary at least to prove that he is truly the one all prophets before him has been talking about.
So the next day Jesus took Peter, James and John to a place only these three and right there before their very eyes Jesus was transfigured in fact they saw Moses and Elijah speaking with Jesus a sign that all the prophets will come back to life due to what Jesus is about to do with his life {John 11:25-28} and then they heard the voice of God saying:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5

Instantly Peter, James and John realized they have SEEN what billions will later in future times SEE about their friend: Jesus! 2Peter 1:17-18
You should be ashamed of this kind of twisting of very clear scripture.

He did not say they will see him at the transfiguration. He talked clearly about the second coming. He also described it.

Anyway good luck with your falsehoods.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by DeepSight(m): 9:06am On May 22, 2025
LordReed:
Paul's writings make it seem imminent. Yet here we are 2000 years later.
Our friend up there now says Jesus was referring to the transfiguration.

Amazing!
Re: The Antichrist Effect by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:28am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
You should be ashamed of this kind of twisting of very clear scripture.
He did not say they will see him at the transfiguration. He talked clearly about the second coming. He also described it.
Anyway good luck with your falsehoods.
Well you are free to believe whatever you want but that's the truth! smiley
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 10:26am On May 22, 2025
DeepSight:
Our friend up there now says Jesus was referring to the transfiguration.

Amazing!
I said they would. They always do. An excuse to hand wave away the glaring failure.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 10:30am On May 22, 2025
AngelahFlo:
Don't sat so my Lord Reed.
We are still in the last days
LoLz. Still? For 2000 years? C'mon. This is bunkum, pure and simple.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 6:05pm On May 22, 2025
LordReed:
LoLz. Still? For 2000 years? C'mon. This is bunkum, pure and simple.
Aiight my Lord Reed
Don't say I didn't tell you o
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 6:08pm On May 22, 2025
AngelahFlo:
Aiight my Lord Reed
Don't say I didn't tell you o
If Nairaland is still active in 10 years we'll see. I can bet you anything your ever coming soon Jesus would still be coming soon.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 6:14pm On May 22, 2025
LordReed:
If Nairaland is still active in 10 years we'll see. I can bet you anything your ever coming soon Jesus would still be coming soon.
Aiight they said this to Noah when He was building the Ark and ushering in the animals and birds
They mocked Lot when he was trying to convince his iinlaws to leave Sodom and Gomorrah before the Judgement. I rest my case.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 7:25pm On May 22, 2025
AngelahFlo:
Aiight they said this to Noah when He was building the Ark and ushering in the animals and birds
They mocked Lot when he was trying to convince his iinlaws to leave Sodom and Gomorrah before the Judgement. I rest my case.
LoLz. Not surprised that you are using stories that didn't happen to buttress another story that will never happen. Not surprised at all. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie:
There are two events to take place in Matthew 16 vs 27.
27 The Son of Man will come again with his Father’s glory and with his angels. And he will reward everyone for what they have done.
28 Believe me when I say that there are some people standing here who will see the Son of Man coming with his kingdom before they die.” - Matthew 16 vs 27 - 28
⚉The first event, which is the arrival of the Kingdom of God also referred to as the End time— time of the harvest—, took place 2000 years ago with the arrival of the Last Days of the final judgment of YHWH against the people of Israel in the land of Canaan, an event that precipitated the destruction of Jerusalem and Judah along with about 1/3rd of the Israelite popultaton of the nation of Judah, according to the predictions of the prophet Joel. undecided

⚉The second event, which is the rewarding of his angels for their works, is what is yet to take place and is further detailed in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and is to happen at the end of the period referred to in order parts of the Gospels as the end of time — the time of the harvest — Matthew 13 vs 39-49. undecided

2. Verse 28 of the above passage speaks of those of the same generation that was Jesus Christ who would witness the first event, the arrival of the Kingdom of God, but not necessarily the second event. undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 1:20am On May 23, 2025
LordReed:
LoLz. Not surprised that you are using stories that didn't happen to buttress another story that will never happen. Not surprised at all. Bwahahahahaha!
It's so interesting that it's your kind that doubts what history proves to be true. It's so sad indeed. I'm not gonna argue with you because you're set in your thoughts and beliefs and you're a free agent so I won't force or make you see what you don't wanna see because of your beliefs but I'll maintain one stance and that is...You'll remember this day and this post when the time comes and that whether you BELIEVE IT OR NOT...This world will be done away with. All the corruption that this world is bedecked with will pass away. Keep your thoughts and beliefs. It's your choice but it won't change the REALITY.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 2:02am On May 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
There are two events to take place in Matthew 16 vs 27.
⚉The first event, which is the arrival of the Kingdom of God also referred to as the End time— time of the harvest—, took place 2000 years ago with the arrival of the Last Days of the final judgment of YHWH against the people of Israel in the land of Canaan, an event that precipitated the destruction of Jerusalem and Judah along with about 1/3rd of the Israelite popultaton of the nation of Judah, according to the predictions of the prophet Joel. undecided

⚉The second event, which is the rewarding of his angels for their works, is what is yet to take place and is further detailed in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and is to happen at the end of the period referred to in order parts of the Gospels as the end of time — the time of the harvest — Matthew 13 vs 39-49. undecided

2. Verse 28 of the above passage speaks of those of the same generation that was Jesus Christ who would witness the first event, the arrival of the Kingdom of God, but not necessarily the second event. undecided
Remember I asked you which denomination you belong to and you shied from the answer.

1. The so called end time which you alluded to have taken place in the time when Israel was punished by God 2000 years ago isn't what you think it is. I know you won't believe me as its shown from your argument so I won't pursue it further.

2. The account of some people being alive when Jesus comes again in His Glory is very true as some people will not die but will be changed and caught up to meet Jesus and the other believers in the air.

3. According to the Bible passage you based your argument on about the second event. Is not about God REWARDING HIS ANGELS for their works because Salvation and the end time harvest is about Humans doing the work of spreading the Gospel and God commissioning His Angels to work with humans in bringing in the harvest and doing away with those who disdain the Gospel by casting them into the fire. We are in the Last days already. And the second event is what's happening currently with the propagation of the Gospel in every nation like never before. You're just being deluded into thinking that the End time has already come. If so what day and time are we in Now. Didn't the Bible in Matthew 24 talk about the end time signs? Where you got your 2000 years ago judgement on Israel as the End time beats me cos it doesn't correlate or coraborate what Jesus told His disciples to watch out for as signs of His coming.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie: 2:14am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
Remember I asked you which denomination you belong to and you shied from the answer.
1. The so called end time which you alluded to have taken place in the time when Israel was punished by God 2000 years ago isn't what you think it is. I know you won't believe me as its shown from your argument so I won't pursue it further.
2. The account of some people being alive when Jesus comes again in His Glory is very true as some people will not die but will be changed and caught up to meet Jesus and the other believers in the air.
3. According to the Bible passage you based your argument on about the second event. Is not about God REWARDING HIS ANGELS for their works because Salvation and the end time harvest is about Humans doing the work of spreading the Gospel and God commissioning His Angels to work with humans in bringing in the harvest and doing away with those who disdain the Gospel by casting them into the fire.
➜ We are in the Last days already. And the second event is what's happening currently with the propagation of the Gospel in every nation like never before. You're just being deluded into thinking that the End time has already come. If so what day and time are we in Now. Didn't the Bible in Matthew 25 talk about the end time signs? Where you got your 2000 years ago judgement on Israel as the End time beats me cos it doesn't correlate or coraborate what Jesus told His disciples to watch out for as signs of His coming.
1. This conclusion of yours is wrong! The Gospels instead record that the end of time—time of the Harvest, i.e., the gathering back to God of the lost sheep of Israel — began about 2000 years ago. You would know this if you actually opened your own eyes when reading through the books. undecided

2. Nonsense! Stop spewing religious nonsense, please! undecided

3. Try to open your eyes when reading the book next time. Jesus Christ of Israel Himself specified that those who belong to Him are referred to as children of God, aka Angels, whereas those who are not of Him are children of the devil - John 8 vs 31 - 49. In Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, the children of the devil are referred to as Satan's angels. All those who are born-again are transformed into Eternal beings - John 3 vs 1 - 8 -, and become angels either of God or of the devil. That is what is recorded in the books. undecided

4. Again, the Last days of YHWH's judgment against the Israelites according to His Law of Moses happened almost 2000 years ago. The End of Time — Time of the Harvest — began immediately after that. And the second event described will, according to Jesus Christ of Israel, take place at the end of the harvest. So, the children of Israel are currently in the End of Time, and once all the harvest has been brought in, the second event will take place. undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 2:23am On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Well you are free to believe whatever you want but that's the truth! smiley
Brother you don't argue with people who are set in theIr beliefs. Jesus only revealed himself to Peter, James and John during the transfiguration experience to show them who He really is and how people will see Him when He comes in His Glory.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 2:30am On May 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. This conclusion of yours is wrong! The Gospels instead record that the end of time—time of the Harvest, i.e., the gathering back to God of the lost sheep of Israel — began about 2000 years ago. You would know this if you actually opened your own eyes when reading through the books. undecided

2. Nonsense! Stop spewing religious nonsense, please! undecided

3. Try to open your eyes when reading the book next time. Jesus Christ of Israel Himself specified that those who belong to Him are referred to as children of God, aka Angels, whereas those who are not of Him are children of the devil - John 8 vs 31 - 49. In Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, the children of the devil are referred to as Satan's angels. All those who are born-again are transformed into Eternal beings - John 3 vs 1 - 8 -, and become angels either of God or of the devil. That is what is recorded in the books. undecided

4. Again, the Last days of YHWH's judgment against the Israelites according to His Law of Moses happened almost 2000 years ago. The End of Time — Time of the Harvest — began immediately after that. And the second event described will, according to Jesus Christ of Israel, take place at the end of the harvest. So, the children of Israel are currently in the End of Time, and once all the harvest has been brought in, the second event will take place. undecided
If the Gospel be hid . It is hidden to those who are lost. To those who the God of this worled has blinded their minds lest the light of the Gospel should shine on them. Wish I could explain better to you but as you're not just a Christian but someone who doesn't follow the doctrines of men. Where you got your idea that the Children of the devil are Angelic beings beats me. My Brother your source of information is so delusional that if I wasn't grounded in God's word and the Bible. I would be easily deceived.
Wow!!!
Very Interesting!!!
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 2:36am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
If the Gospel be hid . It is hidden to those who are lost. To those who the God of this worled has blinded their minds lest the light of the Gospel should shine on them. Wish I could explain better to you but as you're not just a Christian but someone who doesn't follow the doctrines of men. Where you got your idea that the Children of the devil are Angelic beings beats me. My Brother your source of information is so delusional that if I wasn't grounded in God's word and the Bible. I would be easily deceived.
Wow!!!
Very Interesting!!!
In reference to your first point that the end time began 2000 years ago when God gathered the lost sheep of Israel. So are we still in the end times or not?
If you said it began 2000 years ago is it still ongoing or it has passed cos if you tell me it has passed then you're wrong cos we are still in the end times as the lost sheep of Israel are not fully at peace yet not with the ongoing unrest in Palestine
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie: 2:44am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
➜If the Gospel be hid . It is hidden to those who are lost. To those who the God of this worled has blinded their minds lest the light of the Gospel should shine on them.
➜ Wish I could explain better to you but as you're not just a Christian but someone who doesn't follow the doctrines of men.
➜ Where you got your idea that the Children of the devil are Angelic beings beats me.
➜ My Brother your source of information is so delusional that if I wasn't grounded in God's word and the Bible. I would be easily deceived. Wow!!! Very Interesting!!!
1. Stop rambling! The Gospel isn't hidden at all. It was intended to be told to the Lost sheep of Israel— the bloodline of Jacob — to convince them that they should adopt it and become children of YHWH. It is hidden to those who are blind— the ignorant and the arrogant, including, of course, those who are not even of the bloodline. They are those who adopt the doctrines and traditions of men— religion — in attempts to avoid interfacing directly with the facts of the Gospel by way of the numerous interpretations — Christianity alone boasts of over 46,000 such interpretations. undecided

2. I already explained to you that the religion of Christianity is part of the blindness —ignorance born of arrogance — that Jesus Christ of Israel condemned as an abomination against His Father's truth. Why would any sane individual want any part of that brain damage? undecided

3. Read Matthew 25 vs 31-46 and tell us what the differences are between those whom Jesus Christ of Israel described as receiving Eternal Reward and those who would receive Eternal Damnation? undecided

4. The deluded one here isn't me, but you constantly needing to shove religious gobbledegook at me when I made it abundantly clear from earlier that your religion is an atrocity to me. undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie: 2:49am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
➜In reference to your first point that the end time began 2000 years ago when God gathered the lost sheep of Israel. So are we still in the end times or not?
➜If you said it began 2000 years ago is it still ongoing or it has passed cos if you tell me it has passed then you're wrong cos we are still in the end times as the lost sheep of Israel are not fully at peace yet not with the ongoing unrest in Palestine
1. Always read to comprehend! Again, the time of the harvest which pertains to the bloodline of Israel — End of time — began about 2000 years ago for the bloodline of Jacob, and will end at the time when the second event, the rewarding of the works done by the workers — Eternal Reward or Eternal Damnation — is given out - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. undecided

2. Yawn! 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

The harvest, the gathering back of the lost sheep of Israel, continues until all of the harvest is gathered. Jesus Christ of Israel relayed this information by way of a parable in Matthew 13 vs 24-43 undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 3:09am On May 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. Always read to comprehend! Again, the time of the harvest which pertains to the bloodline of Israel — End of time — began about 2000 years ago for the bloodline of Jacob, and will end at the time when the second event, the rewarding of the works done by the workers — Eternal Reward or Eternal Damnation — is given out - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. undecided

2. Yawn! 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

The harvest, the gathering back of the lost sheep of Israel, continues until all of the harvest is gathered. Jesus Christ of Israel relayed this information by way of a parable in Matthew 13 vs 24-43 undecided
Doesn't this lost sheep of Israel also include other nations too? Are you trying to tell me there's no hopen for a Muslim man who gave his life to Christ and takes part in the end time harvest?
Are you saying that because Nigerians ain't of the lost sheep of Israel, every born again Nigerian won't partake of the eternal reward?
I don't know which of us is confusing who.
I've gone through your presentation again and again. One thing I find confusing is what I just stated above.
Anyways you ain't a Christian so I belive you won't understand the true concept of being born again
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie: 3:20am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
➜Doesn't this lost sheep of Israel also include other nations too?
➜ Are you trying to tell me there's no hopen for a Muslim man who gave his life to Christ and takes part in the end time harvest?
➜ Are you saying that because Nigerians ain't of the lost sheep of Israel, every born again Nigerian won't partake of the eternal reward?
I don't know which of us is confusing who.
➜ I've gone through your presentation again and again. One thing I find confusing is what I just stated above. Anyways you ain't a Christian so I belive you won't understand the true concept of being born again
1. According to Jesus Christ of Israel, He was sent ONLY to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob. undecided

2. Gave his life to Christ by way of your imaginary religion of Christianity? Clearly, you seem to have difficulty with staying focused. 😏

Jesus Christ of Israel condemned the doctrines and traditions of men — religion — as an abomination against His own Father, YHWH. This means that anyone who holds onto any religion or traditional ideas of men, even if he were born from his mother's womb of the bloodline of Jacob Himself, could not have any part of Him. So, what makes you think that a non-Israelite, disqualified by not being born of the right bloodline, can have a place in this same Jesus Christ of Israel by adopting that which Jesus Christ of Israel revealed had nothing to do with Him?

3. Again, Jesus Christ of Israel established in so many words that only those born from their mother's womb of the blood of Jacob qualify to become born-again. If you are not of the correct bloodline, you cannot even become born-again. What you Christians consider born-again in your religion has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ of Israel.

4. On the contrary, I understood what you Christians refer to as being born-again, a mental assent(complete with excuses and copouts) of sorts born of a mental delusion which you lot subscribe to. It is a state of mind and nothing more than that, sort of like mental illness/delusions. And I have seen the way your born-again delusions work, too. However, all that has absolutely nothing to compare with born-again as described by Jesus Christ of Israel in connection with His Kingdom and His Father. undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by Kobojunkie: 3:46am On May 23, 2025
@AngelFlo, I am still waiting for your response to the question I had asked earlier.


Read Matthew 25 vs 31-46 and tell us what the differences are between those whom Jesus Christ of Israel — the King in the Kingdom of God — stated would receive Eternal Reward and those who would receive Eternal Damnation? undecided
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 7:37am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
It's so interesting that it's your kind that doubts what history proves to be true. It's so sad indeed. I'm not gonna argue with you because you're set in your thoughts and beliefs and you're a free agent so I won't force or make you see what you don't wanna see because of your beliefs but I'll maintain one stance and that is...You'll remember this day and this post when the time comes and that whether you BELIEVE IT OR NOT...This world will be done away with. All the corruption that this world is bedecked with will pass away. Keep your thoughts and beliefs. It's your choice but it won't change the REALITY.
"Proves to be true" now you've added lying to your repertoire. There is no evidence whatsoever that these were real events except the ones dishonest people like you make up.

LoLz. We'll be here don't worry and we'll see who is twisting reality. 10 years is not too far. I've been on NL for longer than that and it is a tiny fraction of 2000 years.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 8:37am On May 23, 2025
LordReed:
"Proves to be true" now you've added lying to your repertoire. There is no evidence whatsoever that these were real events except the ones dishonest people like you make up.

LoLz. We'll be here don't worry and we'll see who is twisting reality. 10 years is not too far. I've been on NL for longer than that and it is a tiny fraction of 2000 years.
Beautiful
That you can't prove the validity of the event because of seeming evidence doesn't disprove it's existence. For the event of Sodom and Gomorrah it did happen. One of National Geographic presenters did a documentary on it a few years ago. You mentioned 10 years, it might be sooner than that or exceed that time line. That aside, I know you ain't a Christian so I'm gonna pick your brain and know your view concerning the ongoing middle east tension. In your view what's the end result of it. Will there be an eventual truce between Israel and Palestine or will this culminate into a full scale World war 3. One more thing
Watch out for a post on that soon
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 8:51am On May 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. According to Jesus Christ of Israel, He was sent ONLY to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob. undecided

2. Gave his life to Christ by way of your imaginary religion of Christianity? Clearly, you seem to have difficulty with staying focused. 😏

Jesus Christ of Israel condemned the doctrines and traditions of men — religion — as an abomination against His own Father, YHWH. This means that anyone who holds onto any religion or traditional ideas of men, even if he were born from his mother's womb of the bloodline of Jacob Himself, could not have any part of Him. So, what makes you think that a non-Israelite, disqualified by not being born of the right bloodline, can have a place in this same Jesus Christ of Israel by adopting that which Jesus Christ of Israel revealed had nothing to do with Him?

3. Again, Jesus Christ of Israel established in so many words that only those born from their mother's womb of the blood of Jacob qualify to become born-again. If you are not of the correct bloodline, you cannot even become born-again. What you Christians consider born-again in your religion has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ of Israel.

4. On the contrary, I understood what you Christians refer to as being born-again, a mental assent(complete with excuses and copouts) of sorts born of a mental delusion which you lot subscribe to. It is a state of mind and nothing more than that, sort of like mental illness/delusions. And I have seen the way your born-again delusions work, too. However, all that has absolutely nothing to compare with born-again as described by Jesus Christ of Israel in connection with His Kingdom and His Father. undecided
Have you read your Bible very well at all Brother or you chose to see and support that which agrees with your line of thoughts?
According to John 3. Reading the entire chapter which is about a discourse between Jesus and Nicodemus on the subject of being born again. What do you understand of that discourse.
You cling to this idea that Jesus Christ is sent to the lost sheep of Israel alone and everyone has to be of that bloodline to be really born again otherwise whatever doctrine and "state of mind" fallacy they cling to is a delusion. Lemme know your take on that discourse in the 3rd chapter of the book of John
Re: The Antichrist Effect by AngelahFlo(op): 9:16am On May 23, 2025
Kobojunkie:
@AngelFlo, I am still waiting for your response to the question I had asked earlier.


Read Matthew 25 vs 31-46 and tell us what the differences are between those whom Jesus Christ of Israel — the King in the Kingdom of God — stated would receive Eternal Reward and those who would receive Eternal Damnation? undecided
I don't know what you want me to see or agree with. That portion of Scripture is about a forthcoming judgment where Jesus will reward everyone according to their works on earth. The sheep's will receive their eternal reward and the goats, their eternal Damnation.This applies to all nations. There's a forthcoming Judgment. The book of Revelation shed more light on this event.
Of particular interest to me thougH is this fixation on Jesus being sent to the lost sheep of Israel. True that was his earthly assignment when He was on earth but after He died and was taken up to God in the presence of his disciples, He commissioned them to spread the Gospel to every nations even to the uttermost parts of the earth. So Jesus Christ of Israel as you call Him also recognize those who ain't of His direct bloodline. The sooner you understand this, you'll not view the concept of being born again as a state of mind and mental delusions.
I await more of your arguments.
Re: The Antichrist Effect by LordReed(m): 10:12am On May 23, 2025
AngelahFlo:
Beautiful
That you can't prove the validity of the event because of seeming evidence doesn't disprove it's existence. For the event of Sodom and Gomorrah it did happen. One of National Geographic presenters did a documentary on it a few years ago. You mentioned 10 years, it might be sooner than that or exceed that time line. That aside, I know you ain't a Christian so I'm gonna pick your brain and know your view concerning the ongoing middle east tension. In your view what's the end result of it. Will there be an eventual truce between Israel and Palestine or will this culminate into a full scale World war 3. One more thing
Watch out for a post on that soon
LoLz. Link to the documentary or is it just another lie? An event of the magnitude of a GLOBAL flood MUST leave evidence so please save yourself the bullshìt.

I am not a clairvoyant claiming to know the future but I know bullshìt when I see it. Meanwhile, in my opinion the war in Gaza will not devolve into WW3, there is no reason for it to. For one it is too regional to affect global interactions enough to push the war buttons of multiple nations given the current structure of global politics. Basically, too many things need to happen to make it become a WW.
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