₦airaland Forum

DMerciful:
Lets see how it goes. Whoever the coalition throws up we support. If the coalition throws Obi and he makes a commitment of one term and the North refuses to support him, nothing we can do.

Now you are talking. That is one of the compromises I am referring to.

For me, the key thing is to vote out bat in 2027. The incompetence and arrogance is nauseating.

And the best way to do that is by not contesting. Because I don't think Nigeria can stand your failures.

Toks2008:
Atiku and obi ticket will remove tinubu even before the day of election.

Atiku and obi had over 13million votes in the last election while tinubu had a falsified votes of just about 7million.

Tinubu has failed woefully in this first term which will even make it far easier to be voted out.

If OBi knows what is good for him he should team up witt Atiku or not bother contesting at all.

Maybe if i had not witness 2019, i would have taught so my that an Atiku/Obi will remove Tinubu.
I am one of the few Nigerians that dont forget easily, You can do things the same way n expect different results. nah

if they could not defeat Buhari they cant defeat the "brain" behind Buhari two victory

ivandragon:
You should direct that question to mama peace. She has said GEJ is not contesting and she loves bat and his wife.

GEJ himself has kept quiet. So direct your questions and thinking to the appropriate quarters. Nigerians will support those who present themselves for office.

Maybe IF Jonathan was under 18, mama peace for decide for him But that man looks over 18yrs to me.

I have never seen where a WIfe decides for a politician, even politician say one thing today and the next day they are saying something else.

I think i now know why you are deliberately evavisive. 2027 is not an election of who we love, cos Tinubu is definition of naija typical politics, think everything bad with our politics thats Tinubu forte ...

its not about i love Osibanjo or i love Obi oo ... its fully about who ticks all the local politics factor boxes

ivandragon:
The politics is what it is, sentiments cannot replace the realities of the sociopolitical dynamics in nigeria.

There are only 2 options, obi either works with the north or bat continues.

He's free to work with the north and other regions, but he should not VP anybody, we all know VP is just a spare tire.

He can't achieve the "consumption to production plan"as a VP

OfficialP:
He's free to work with the north and other regions, but he should not VP anybody, we all know VP is just a spare tire.

He can't achieve the "consumption to production plan"as a VP

Are you the one to decide for him?

dederocs:
Dangote refinery is helping Nigeria become more productive and is creating value chain and prosperity. Tinubu got some things right, coastal road, tax reform, local government autonomy, devolution of power sector... although the corruption in governance is still high, EFCC should focus in governors not youths.

Yeah i agree Dangote refinery is boosting productive and adding emersely to our GDP.

but you see All that Tinubu did this is a big lie for the gullible, lets take it one by one

The coastal road is yet to be completed or benefited from, you can quote it as an achievement,

The tax reform bill is yet to be implemented,when we are yet to see the impact that is not an achievement yet

Local govt autonomy,🤣🤣🤣🤣 you be 10yrs old boy abi you no get eye, The highest court gave verdict since august 2024 till date which state have implemented local govt autonomy ... is lagos state, baba sope is hand picking n imposing or Osun state where local govt don shut down or Rivers Tinubu n wike is dictating how local govt must run

Finally you mentioned devolution of power, are you a " Joke" where ?? in a baba sope regime that re impose Obasa on House of rep from abuja, devolution of power where a baba sope removed a sitting governor n suspended all the political structure in a state.
You dare talk about devolution of Power in a baba sope Regime, pls dont comment until you reach 18yrs

chidiokay:
Maybe IF Jonathan was under 18, mama peace for decide for him But that man looks over 18yrs to me.

I have never seen where a WIfe decides for a politician, even politician say one thing today and the next day they are saying something else.

I think i now know why you are deliberately evavisive. 2027 is not an election of who we love, cos Tinubu is definition of naija typical politics, think everything bad with our politics thats Tinubu forte ...

its not about i love Osibanjo or i love Obi oo ... its fully about who ticks all the local politics factor boxes

Me? Evasive about what? Twice mama peace has said GEJ is not contesting and the GEJ said nothing. Are you closer to GEJ than mama peace?

If the opposition cannot put its house in order to remove the evil in aso rock, then let the evil continue to reign there.

The bottom line is the facts speak for themselves, without the backing of the North, bat cannot be defeated.

No southerner politician today can stand up to bat, politically, financially and 'underhandedly'. The north holds the aces for 2027 and it knows this. Nigerians are effectively caught between 2 evils, let bat continue or let the north help push him out.

It can afford to wait till 2031 and get its 8 years, or be allowed to be the front runner in 2027 and help push out bat.

Mind you, in the present democratic dispensation, the north has done 11 years as against the south's 18 years (by 2027).

ivandragon:
Me? Evasive about what? Twice mama peace has said GEJ is not contesting and the GEJ said nothing. Are you closer to GEJ than mama peace?

If the opposition cannot put its house in order to remove the evil in aso rock, then let the evil continue to reign there.

The bottom line is the facts speak for themselves, without the backing of the North, bat cannot be defeated.

No southerner politician today can stand up to bat, politically, financially and 'underhandedly'. The north holds the aces for 2027 and it knows this. Nigerians are effectively caught between 2 evils, let bat continue or let the north help push him out.

It can afford to wait till 2031 and get its 8 years, or be allowed to be the front runner in 2027 and help push out bat.

Mind you, in the present democratic dispensation, the north has done 11 years as against the south's 18 years (by 2027).

How can you be telling Mama peace saod this said that, Is Jonathan a child, that we call her mama peace Does it mean Jonathan her little boy, she will speak n decide for.

Since you have being following politics, Is it wives that declare their politician husband ambition, If Titi atiku declare Atiku wont run for presidency again ... you go believe ?? naa your Wife dey decide your own Life

Yeah, i am glad you understand North Factor exist, most socialite speak as though we are in America ...in their head, zoning dont exist, structure dont mean anything ... ignoring our local pecularity factors is the leverage Tinubu uses everytime to win.

South stil have 4 more years, North wont renege e sure me, its left for opposition to be strategic.

chidiokay:
How can you be telling Mama peace saod this said that, Is Jonathan a child, that we call her mama peace Does it mean Jonathan her little boy, she will speak n decide for.

Since you have being following politics, Is it wives that declare their politician husband ambition, If Titi atiku declare Atiku wont run for presidency again ... you go believe ?? naa your Wife dey decide your own Life

Yeah, i am glad you understand North Factor exist, most socialite speak as though we are in America ...in their head, zoning dont exist, structure dont mean anything ... ignoring our local pecularity factors is the leverage Tinubu uses everytime to win.

South stil have 4 more years, North wont renege e sure me, its left for opposition to be strategic.

https://authorityngr.com/2024/09/11/2027-jonathan-wont-run-for-presidency-wifeinsists-gej-isnt-looking-for-anything-again-in-politics/

Again I ask, are you closer to GEJ than Mama peace?

Maybe your house is so disorganised that your own wife can openly make such categorical statement about you.

ivandragon:
https://authorityngr.com/2024/09/11/2027-jonathan-wont-run-for-presidency-wifeinsists-gej-isnt-looking-for-anything-again-in-politics/

Again I ask, are you closer to GEJ than Mama peace?

Maybe your house is so disorganised that
your own wife can openly make such categorical statement about you.

Oga ! i heard the news, i didnt say Mama peace did not say it, Peter Obi said he will never leave Apga he left ..
Buhari said just one tenure ... he did two, we are not babies this one you carry mama peace word for head, you are just being evasive i repeat. Let Jonathan come out n say it. common sense nii

How old are you, really !! ... my mom say at your age

chidiokay:
Yeah i agree Dangote refinery is boosting productive and adding emersely to our GDP.

but you see All that Tinubu did this is a big lie for the gullible, lets take it one by one

The coastal road is yet to be completed or benefited from, you can quote it as an achievement,

The tax reform bill is yet to be implemented,when we are yet to see the impact that is not an achievement yet

Local govt autonomy,🤣🤣🤣🤣 you be 10yrs old boy abi you no get eye, The highest court gave verdict since august 2024 till date which state have implemented local govt autonomy ... is lagos state, baba sope is hand picking n imposing or Osun state where local govt don shut down or Rivers Tinubu n wike is dictating how local govt must run

Finally you mentioned devolution of power, are you a " Joke" where ?? in a baba sope regime that re impose Obasa on House of rep from abuja, devolution of power where a baba sope removed a sitting governor n suspended all the political structure in a state.
You dare talk about devolution of Power in a baba sope Regime, pls dont comment until you reach 18yrs

Devolution of power sector, meaning states can provide their own power/energy systems for electricity.

dederocs:
Devolution of power sector, meaning states can provide their own power/energy systems for electricity.

okay buh even at that, what meaning structures are in place or going on to enable or foster discentralized power generation system.

I see that many of you usually get carried away with academia prospect of this initiatives, you easily fall for it even when the politicians you dont trust say it .. but it far beyond that

Where are the workings, Nigeria govt is making everything i learnt in school sound like gibberish to me.

whatever goes up must come down so we learn, But in Nigeria even parachute wont cum down

chidiokay:
okay buh even at that, what meaning structures are in place or going on to enable or foster discentralized power generation system.

I see that many of you usually get carried away with academia prospect of this initiatives, you easily fall for it even when the politicians you dont trust say it .. but it far beyond that

Where are the workings, Nigeria govt is making everything i learnt in school sound like gibberish to me.

whatever goes up must come down so we learn, But in Nigeria even parachute wont cum down

Your state governor have the capacity, to partner with investors on that, state governors have the funds and the capacity to encourage private investment in their state power sector.

dederocs:
Your state governor have the capacity, to partner with investors on that, state governors have the funds and the capacity to encourage private investment in their state power sector.

I believe that push the narrative, " hold your governors" are deliberately being mischievous understanding how centralized Nigeria structure are.

Maybe academic purposes, i fit support your what you are facing But understanding the terresterial factor of naija ... nah

From our history, it is more feasible to hold FG accountable than governors sef.

chidiokay:
I believe that push the narrative, " hold your governors" are deliberately being mischievous understanding how centralized Nigeria structure are.

Maybe academic purposes, i fit support your what you are facing But understanding the terresterial factor of naija ... nah

From our history, it is more feasible to hold FG accountable than governors sef.

It reeks of ignorance to hold FG accountable, even if the lay men don't know, at least you understand the concept of federal structure, and you know that state governors are given allocations monthly, not holding governors to account is a disservice to the growth of states. The governors are voted into power same way president is voted in, and the governors swore an oath to the people not the president.

dederocs:
It reeks of ignorance to hold FG accountable, even if the lay men don't know, at least you understand the concept of federal structure, and you know that state governors are given allocations monthly, not holding governors to account is a disservice to the growth of states. The governors are voted into power same way president is voted in, and the governors swore an oath to the people not the president.

it sounds irrational, but does anything in Nigeria ever align with "sense" ... thats why some of us stick to realistic approach

From our reality, its feasible to hold FG than hold your governors, Forget how it sounds naa the reality or record make you check

Governors owe workers salary or refuse to implement minimun wage n nobody can hold them But FG cant get away with it

Our system and structures are to centralize, to discentralize will take a us years and consistent efforts.

You are right by Logical standard, But this is Nigeria tailor your solution along our local pecularities. common local govt chairman e hard to hold dem accountable, forget big big english go n try to see your local govt chairman 1st

chidiokay:
Oga ! i heard the news, i didnt say Mama peace did not say it, Peter Obi said he will never leave Apga he left ..
Buhari said just one tenure ... he did two, we are not babies this one you carry mama peace word for head, you are just being evasive i repeat. Let Jonathan come out n say it. common sense nii

How old are you, really !! ... my mom say at your age

In 2022, mama peace said GEJ won't contest, and he did not

Keep waiting for GEJ to come out since your life is teleguided by what GEJ says.

ivandragon:
In 2022, mama peace said GEJ won't contest, and he did not

Keep waiting for GEJ to come out since your life is teleguided by what GEJ says.

You dont have to be pained, my mommy say boy

chidiokay:
You dont have to be pained, my mommy say boy

Pained about what?

Do you have a fetish for your mum or it is because you are still under her care?

You keep bringing her up... well, to each thier own...

aswani:
Mayb he should allowed on rest from his opinions if he doesn't want to be challenged as a private citizen.

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He is entitled to his opinions. They won't have a direct impact on policy, because he is a private citizen. Far more sensible for challengers to focus on the 'public' citizens who actually make policy.

aswani:
Also, that there are IDP camps doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss other things. We can't wait till Nigeria is utopia before discussing things.

^^^
Not sure what your point is here...

aswani:
I will focus on what I want, you feel free to do the same.

^^^
That's exactly what I'm doing.

Fujiyama:
^^^
He is entitled to his opinions. They won't have a direct impact on policy, because he is a private citizen. Far more sensible for challengers to focus on the 'public' citizens who actually make policy.



^^^
Not sure what your point is here...



^^^
That's exactly what I'm doing.

As he is entitled to his opinions, we are also entitled to our opinions on his opinions.

aswani:
As he is entitled to his opinions, we are also entitled to our opinions on his opinions.

^^^
True.

And I am also entitled to my opinions on your opinions. Just as you are entitled to your opinions on my opinions about your opinions. And the beat goes on...

You are perfectly within your rights to think of Obi as an opportunistic grifter. For all you know I may hold exactly the same dim view of the man. But one thing is crystal clear: it makes no sense to continuously devote considerable bandwith in the criticism of opposition politicians like Obi, Sowore, Atiku etc. - politicians whose views are essentially meaningless in terms of policy impact...all the while giving an easy pass to those who are actually in government and who are messing up big time. It makes no sense at all.

In the end you will be forced to concede that it isn't opposition politicians who are burning a hole in the public purse on the worst kind of frivolity - frivolity that the BAT administration has justly acuired a notoriety for. It isn't opposition politicians who have failed to get a handle on the security issue - after ten long years of the same party in power. It isn't opposition politicians who have consistently failed to deliver any kind of meaningful public sector reform - after ten long years. We could go on and on about these multiple failures.

The constant refrain of BAT's so called 'courage' in removing fuel subsidy and unifying exchange rates has worn very thin. Nigerians are tired of hearing about it. Those policies are all he refers to as his so called achievements at every opportunity he has. Interesting though, that he never has anything to say about the chronic inflation that accompanied those policies - runaway inflation that he clearly does not have the capacity to contain. Noteworthy how he is silent on the exchange rate volatility that has become part of the reality of business planning for the sole proprietor and the big time industrialist alike in this country.

BAT is not the man for the job. Criticizing opposition politicians 24/7 will not alter this simple truth.

Fujiyama:
But one thing is crystal clear: it makes no sense to continuously devote considerable bandwith in the criticism of opposition politicians like Obi, Sowore, Atiku etc. -

You have actually made some excellent points to which I doff my cap.

This is the exact kind of post I like to read on this forum from people whose views I don't share but with something that I can learn from.

However, the bottom line is, Peter Obi, Atiku and Sowore are not sacrosanct and anyone that feels the need to question whatever they say or do should be allowed to regardless of how President Tinubu is performing.

We can't wait till President Tinubu turns Nigeria to an utopian behemoth before shining the light on others. We are all accountable for our opinions on whoever. If an imbecilic Obidient unfairly lampoons President Tinubu, I will express and have expressed my opinion, same as a Batists on Peter Obi.

Query what people are saying not who they are saying it about.

Metrix147:
The Presidential candidate of the Labour Party (LP) in the 2023 general election, Mr. Peter Obi, has declared that he is not desperate to become Nigeria’s President, but rather desperate to see the country work effectively for the benefit of its citizens, ABN TV reports.

Obi made this known on Saturday during a special Anniversary Sabbath service held at the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Umuahia, Abia State, to commemorate two years of Governor Alex Otti's administration.

The former Anambra State Governor emphasized the challenges of leading a country like Nigeria, especially for leaders committed to doing what is right. He called on the people of Abia to pray for Governor Otti and members of his cabinet, stressing the importance of divine guidance in leadership.

“It is difficult to govern Nigeria or any of its states, especially when you are determined to do the right thing,” Obi stated. “When I say to people I am not desperate to be President, I am desperate to see Nigeria work.”

He urged Nigerians to consistently pray for their leaders, encouraging those in positions of authority to use public funds judiciously and for the collective good.

Obi commended Governor Otti for what he described as “two years with a difference,” noting that real change in governance does not necessarily require long tenures.

“People always say they need eight years, ten years, or even twenty years to make an impact. But I have always said that one day can make a difference. What is happening in Abia today, we want to see it happen everywhere in Nigeria,” he remarked.

In his response, Governor Alex Otti attributed the progress made by his administration in the past two years to divine guidance and strength from God. He expressed gratitude to Peter Obi for his consistent support, and also appreciated the Abia State legislature, judiciary, and members of the Church for their prayers and encouragement.
Source: https://abntv.com.ng/news/im-not-desperate-to-be-president-i-just-want-nigeria-to-work-peter-obi/

So, Alex Otti is a member of Seventh Day Adventists? This obviously explains why he is close to David Adeleke's father who is a longtime Adventist.

Mitsurugi:
You sound disoriented. What is really wrong with you? What is wrong in what he said? Is he the most desperate person honing in for that position you know? A man did unthinkable things to get there and is doing more to remain there, yet you are blind to that.

You started your statement with an insult. That invalidates whatever you have to say

He wants the country to work, yet goes about demarketing that same country. All these abakaliki logic sef

No be only moral compass, na moral divider

ukaface:
I understand sir PO
But the percentage of nigerians that don’t understand what it means to have a working country are all backing someone that does not understand if he is walking or being pushed, someone that speaks outside of what is being asked, they also think it’s a tribal war.
Sir, don’t be desperate o
Nigeria has been destined to fail, no matter what you do it is hopeless. Just live your remaining years and go peacefully. Nigeria is not worth it

So, because dem no want PO, your base has been destined to fail, because PO na Jesus or wetin

He's not desperate but moved from APGA to LP to PDP

So, PO is the only person out of 200m than can do it

Una logic dey always muse me

This man is a very talented liar. You are not desperate to lead Nigeria and you have been moving from one party to another since. Now you are about forging a coalition with Atiku to run on the same ticket like the 2019 elections in the 2027 general elections. This man is a pathological liar, I don't blame him though, I blame his clueless and mob-like followers. Shhhmmmrrrrr