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Manover123:
Hello good people,

Please, I need your assistance. I am currently in Canada under refugee status and living with my partner, who is a Canadian citizen. We have a baby together, and we are planning to get married in November.

My fiancée would like my mother to attend the wedding, which we plan to celebrate in a big way. She has already written an invitation letter stating that she will provide accommodation and cover any financial needs during my mother’s stay in Canada.

My question is:
Is it necessary for me to include my own pay stubs and bank statements in the application, even though my fiancée is the one providing all the required documents and financial support?

amnotapervert:
Even if she is the main sponsor, adding your own documents could strengthen the application by showing that:

You have stable ties in Canada (especially since you live together and have a baby)

There is additional financial support if needed

However, it's optional and not mandatory

Immigration officers assess the overall picture, and your fiancée’s documents may be sufficient on their own, especially if she has a strong financial profile and in this case she does.

Make sure your mother also includes strong documentation to prove:

Her intent to return home (ties to her home country, e.g., job, property, family)

She is visiting for a specific event (your wedding) and plans to leave afterward

Side note One more thing to remember: your wife technically has a financial obligation to support you for three years from the day you become a permanent resident.

She is the main applicant, and during those three years, you do not have the right to sponsor or invite your family members.

Any invitations for your family will need to come from your wife. https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1355&top=14

Manover123:
Hello good people,

Please, I need your assistance. I am currently in Canada under refugee status and living with my partner, who is a Canadian citizen. We have a baby together, and we are planning to get married in November.

My fiancée would like my mother to attend the wedding, which we plan to celebrate in a big way. She has already written an invitation letter stating that she will provide accommodation and cover any financial needs during my mother’s stay in Canada.

My question is:
Is it necessary for me to include my own pay stubs and bank statements in the application, even though my fiancée is the one providing all the required documents and financial support?

Manover123:
Thank you very much for your response; I truly appreciate it. I understand that including my own financial documents could help strengthen the application. I would also like to ask is it necessary to include my refugee documents as part of the application package?

clayfounder:
chairman, from what we’ve heard, people go create story claiming to be in a same-sex relationship(Bobrisky pattern ) and say they were persecuted and beaten , which is why they fled to Canada to seek asylum. But now, why are you planning to marry a woman after previously saying you were in man to man relationship and providing evidence to support that in your case and win the case . I hope this won’t be a problem or your fiancee na man ? because I’m thinking of following a similar route like you too .

amnotapervert:
Your parents’ visa application should focus on them as individuals.

They are coming to attend the wedding and to visit their grandchild, and they have the financial means to do so.

Your fiancée (wife-to-be) will provide supporting documents to show that there is a legitimate reason for their visit — the wedding — and that both your child and your mother are Canadian citizens.

She will also include a statement confirming that your parents will return home after the wedding as they are visitors just for the wedding and to see their grandchild.

The application can mention that you and your wife are both working (submite T4 and employment letter) and are able to host them if needed, but the primary focus should remain on your parents — their reason for visiting and their strong ties to their home country.

Including your asylum documents in the application will likely raise red flags and create unnecessary concerns for IRCC. ( even tho IRCC knows you)

It's a very trickish situation but IMO No, you should NOT include your refugee documents in your parents' visitor visa application.

Why not? Including your refugee claim details alerts IRCC that:

You believe your home country is unsafe. (It depends on what ground you used to file your pending refugee status)

Your parents are from the same country and may also seek to stay.

There’s a risk they won’t return home, which is the main reason visitor visas get denied.

This actually hurts their application, rather than helps it.

Can You Invite Your Parents If You’re an Asylum Claimant?

Technically yes, but practically no.

As an asylum seeker, you do not have legal status to sponsor or support others. that's why Your wife to be is the main applicant

Even though you're getting married to a Canadian citizen, you are not a permanent resident (PR) yet.

IRCC will consider you unstable in terms of immigration status.

Your invitation (refugee documents) carries very little weight until you become a PR.

Manover123:
The issue now is that my mother is elderly and no longer works. However, my brother, who lives in the U.S., provides her with a monthly stipend.

I would like to know if it’s possible for my brother to be included in the visitor visa application by stating that he will be responsible for her flight ticket. Meanwhile, my fiancée will cover her accommodation and feeding during her stay in Canada.

As you advised, I prefer not to include any financial documents from my side, given my current refugee status. Alternatively, should I mention that I will personally cover her flight ticket instead?

Additionally, I want to mention that my refugee claim is based on being bisexual. After our wedding, my fiancée plans to sponsor me for permanent residence, at which point I will cancel my refugee claim.

amnotapervert:
To be honest, the case keeps getting more complex as you mention key points—like switching from refugee status to spousal PR sponsorship—which significantly changes the dynamics of your parents' visa situation.

Side note: If you’ve been issued a formal removal order, it will be extremely difficult to convince IRCC to allow a family member to come to Canada.

If your brother can show consistent bank transfers from the U.S. to Nigeria, proving that he supports your mother with a monthly stipend, that will help. However, this also suggests that your parents have no strong ties to Nigeria—nothing substantial to keep them there or return to—so the chances of a visa rejection due to lack of home ties are unfortunately very high.

The case is more complex than it seems. That said, it’s still worth trying—after all, the worst that could happen is that their visa gets denied.

Now, how to approach the funding for the flight ticket:
Your older brother should provide proof that he has been supporting your mother financially.

He should also include a letter stating that he is legally in the U.S. (either a Green Card or U.S. passport), along with proof of employment.

If possible, he should include his W-2 tax form and employment letter. He should also state clearly that he understands the importance of your mother not overstaying her visa.

If he plans to attend the wedding as well, he can mention that he will be responsible for your mother’s flight to and from Canada and will ensure she returns to Nigeria.

Your fiancée should also help by writing a letter (as previously discussed) confirming that she will accommodate your parents during their stay, and that their visit is solely for the wedding and to meet their grandchild.

This case is really complicated. If you have the means, it’s a good idea to speak with a licensed immigration consultant or lawyer.

Since your own immigration status isn’t fully resolved, that could create additional challenges for your parents' application.

Make sure the application stays focused on your parents—how they will be funded (by your brother) and how they will be accommodated (by your fiancée).

I assume you’re already working with a lawyer regarding your case. Make sure they are licenced oooo please I take God beg you

Please raise these questions with them as well—they’ll have a clearer picture of your full situation, including anything you might not be comfortable sharing here.

Manover123:
I pray that everyone of us living in a foreign land achieves our goals. Life abroad isn’t easy especially if you haven’t gotten your permanent status yet.

I came to Canada on a study visa, but after completing my first year of studies, I couldn’t find a job and couldn’t afford to continue into the second year. To maintain my legal status, I had to apply for asylum. Meanwhile, some of my mates who claimed asylum immediately after arriving in Canada have already received their PR.

Please understand, I’m not advising anyone to follow this path I’m simply sharing my experience. Sometimes, things don’t go as planned, and you have to find another way to move forward.

In my opinion, the Canadian government itself is encouraging asylum claims, especially since I’ve seen a high success rate among people I personally know.

As for my own case, I applied on the basis of being bisexual. That’s not the same as being gay—bisexuals are attracted to both genders. (Just a bit of humor there, lol.)

Bottom line: if you’re planning to have a Plan B, think it through carefully and make sure it’s something you’re prepared to stand by

Manover123:
First of all, I do not have a formal removal order because my student status was still valid at the time I switched to an asylum claim. I used Legal Aid to obtain a free lawyer who is currently handling my case, and I have been issued a two-year work permit.

Once I submit my sponsorship application through my spouse and it gets approved, I will be granted permanent residence and will then withdraw my refugee claim.

As for my mother, she has been traveling to the United States for over 10 years and has never overstayed any of her visits. Her primary reason for visiting Canada is to attend our wedding, and she fully intends to return to Nigeria after the event.

amnotapervert:
I'm not here to condemn your life choices, but your statement — "To maintain my legal status, I had to apply for asylum" — is incorrect. Asylum is not a method for maintaining legal status in Canada.

You applied for a two-year study program and demonstrated to IRCC that you or your sponsor had the financial capacity to cover the full two years of tuition and living expenses.

Anyone who told you that you could simply work and earn enough money in Canada to cover your second year of studies misled you. So saying you couldn’t pay for school because you didn’t have a job isn’t a valid excuse—it contradicts the financial plan you submitted to IRCC when applying for the visa.

I’ve said before that anyone planning to study in Canada realistically needs nothing less than ₦60 million. When I mentioned this, some people criticized me—but it remains true if you want to avoid complications.

Coming to Canada on a student visa and then filing an asylum claim only makes your situation more complex and drags out your immigration process. I suspect this is why you're now considering switching to spousal PR sponsorship.

Let’s be honest: a lot of Nigerians are not getting their asylum claims approved. Out of 16,267 asylum claims submitted by Nigerians between January and December 2024, only 2,230 were accepted—that's just a 13% approval rate. These aren't just numbers—they reflect a real trend. Many Nigerians are being refused or stuck waiting for withdrawal or removal. and they keep paying lawyers

https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/Pages/RPDStat2024.aspx

Just remember: when you apply for asylum, you're applying as a Nigerian, and your claim will be judged accordingly and as a Nigerian you have a 13% chance

amnotapervert:
If your mum has a U.S. visa, then that’s a good thing — it works in her favor.

As for you, you're no longer pursuing permanent residency through asylum, but rather through spousal sponsorship.

Also, to clarify your immigration status: you don’t have a formal removal order at this point — what you have is a conditional removal order. Let me explain:

When you submit a refugee (asylum) claim, you are automatically issued a conditional removal order. This order only becomes a formal (enforceable) removal order if your asylum claim is denied. So, unless your claim is refused, the removal order is not active or enforceable yet.

Manover123:
Sorry, bro are you in Canada or familiar with the asylum seeker ? I'm only speaking based on what I know, what I’ve seen firsthand, and what I can confirm.

For example, three of my course mates applied for asylum immediately after arriving in Canada and were approved. Also, four members of my church came through on a study permit, applied for asylum, and have already been approved. I’ve also seen many people who came in on a visitor visa get approved as well too many to even count.

As it stands today in Canada, around 90% of visitors end up changing their status to refugee, and approximately 40% of international students do the same.

Please note, I’m not encouraging anyone to take this route it’s a personal choice. Everyone’s journey is different, and I believe we can all succeed, whichever path we choose.

Manover123:
Hello good people,

Please, I need your assistance. I am currently in Canada under refugee status and living with my partner, who is a Canadian citizen. We have a baby together, and we are planning to get married in November.

My fiancée would like my mother to attend the wedding, which we plan to celebrate in a big way. She has already written an invitation letter stating that she will provide accommodation and cover any financial needs during my mother’s stay in Canada.

My question is:
Is it necessary for me to include my own pay stubs and bank statements in the application, even though my fiancée is the one providing all the required documents and financial support?

Manover123:
Hello good people,

Please, I need your assistance. I am currently in Canada under refugee status and living with my partner, who is a Canadian citizen. We have a baby together, and we are planning to get married in November.

My fiancée would like my mother to attend the wedding, which we plan to celebrate in a big way. She has already written an invitation letter stating that she will provide accommodation and cover any financial needs during my mother’s stay in Canada.

My question is:
Is it necessary for me to include my own pay stubs and bank statements in the application, even though my fiancée is the one providing all the required documents and financial support?

pseudonomer:
Is there anyone here going for actual tourism in Canada? I’ll need recommendations…

Debbieeeeeee:
I think it’ll be better you don’t insert yourself into their applications. If possible do not.

Amylew:
My concern is about your status and that of the impending visit of your mum. Canada is very anti asylum right now. I mentioned my experience earlier in the thread. The only reason they finally let me go at “secondary” after like an hour was when I gave them the names of my “friends “ and they checked and saw that they came in through PR. They thought I was fidgeting or lying about the friends because they came in through asylum which would infer that I had a similar plan.

I read of a man who was not allowed to board his connecting flight because his brother or someone was in Canada through asylum.

I would advise that you thread carefully, and read the advice of those who have stated their concerns. If you do apply then be aware of the bias that would weigh against that visa application and be prepared to counter it very well in the application. And prepare your mum of that line of questioning.

Layooye:
Please does anyone have the contact number for the VFS office Abuja? Or please does anyone have information on the best way to send my passport via 2 way courier to the VFS office? Thank you

amnotapervert:
You are very lucky — very, very lucky.
You should thank God you weren’t given a 5-year ban. I personally know people who have been affected by fake visa agents and the damage they can cause.

Side Note (which may be unpopular):
Even though your visa was approved, once you are settled in Canada, I strongly advise you to request your Global Case Management System (GCMS) notes. This will show you exactly what the Facebook visa agent submitted on your behalf. It's important because your visa will eventually expire, and you might need to apply again or answer questions at your point of entry into Canada.

This way, you can verify whether the agent claimed you are married or single, the school(s) you attended or didn’t attend, and the business you supposedly do or don’t do. If there are discrepancies, you’ll be aware and better prepared in the future.

Important Caution:
I can't say for certain that your visa has been canceled, but it's possible that it has been flagged, and you may be asked additional questions by CBSA (Canada Border Services Agency) when you arrive at your Port of Entry (POE).

How do I know? The UK or any government is required to share passenger manifests with the Canadian government — even for people who missed their flights, as long as they had a ticket.

Since 2002, commercial air carriers have been required to provide the CBSA with Advance Passenger Information (API) and, since 2003, Passenger Name Record (PNR) data. This includes a traveler’s biographic details. You can read more about this here:
https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/2016-03-23/html/sor-dors35-eng.html

So if you missed a flight denied boarding due to concerns about your purpose of visit ( yes UK is crazy to Nigerian because of that you are not alone)

or there are inconsistencies in your visa application, the CBSA may ask you why — and they are trained to detect inconsistencies. If you didn’t fill out the application yourself or if your story isn’t genuine, they will most likely find out.

Please get your GCMS notes so you know exactly what was submitted on your behalf and pray you meet a "nice" CBSA Agent

And in the future, always go through a Canadian-registered and recognized immigration consultant or, even better, complete the visa process yourself — but first, make sure you know exactly what the agent submitted for you.

Thanks.


Thanks for your sincere input. However, I found out most of the things he submitted was different from the information I gave him, but it was too late then. I was very angry with him but he seem less concerned and was even calling me ungrateful. Like the position in my work place, the names of my children etc.

Though these are not the reason why I was turned back. At hearthrow, when I was asked why I was going on the day the conference was ending, I told them that there must be a mIstake somewhere, that the conference is starting the next day. Infact, I had to tell them that the flight was booked by an agent. The guy there was friendly to me and even bought some snacks for me.

Where I have issue now is should I look for another conference or just visit as a tourist and come back.
Thanks in advance

Myjoyishere:
Thanks for your sincere input. However, I found out most of the things he submitted was different from the information I gave him, but it was too late then. I was very angry with him but he seem less concerned and was even calling me ungrateful. Like the position in my work place, the names of my children etc.

Though these are not the reason why I was turned back. At hearthrow, when I was asked why I was going on the day the conference was ending, I told them that there must be a mIstake somewhere, that the conference is starting the next day. Infact, I had to tell them that the flight was booked by an agent. The guy there was friendly to me and even bought some snacks for me.

Where I have issue now is should I look for another conference or just visit as a tourist and come back.
Thanks in advance

amnotapervert:
It's like the visa agent naming your kids. The name they give your kids is the one you’ll be using for your next visa application, and your job title has to stay the same. 😂

You’ll run into issues when applying for a visa in the future because the visa officer will compare your previous application with the new one. If there’s a discrepancy in the children's names or job titles, it will raise red flags. So, you have to stick with what the visa agent did, whether it’s right or wrong.

That’s why it’s always better to handle the application yourself or use a licensed visa agent.


Please remember, you have a visitor visa, and your goal should be to visit and leave within the 6 months allowed, even though you may have a 10-year visa. You can re-enter for another 6 months each time.

At Heathrow, they’re known for spotting issues like this.

I wouldn’t recommend transiting through Heathrow if your story isn’t solid.

They can tell when your story doesn’t add up—and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t, because you didn’t even apply for the visa yourself.

and the conference story when asked questions on the conference it will not make sense to anyone which screems Red flag

that's why you where turned back

If your aim is to file for asylum, keep these things in mind:

As with any asylum claimants, you’ll need to prove that you’re being persecuted and that your life is at risk in Nigeria. You must show that you’ve attempted to relocate within Nigeria and are still facing persecution.

You’ll need evidence like:

Proof of hospitalizations, Evidence of threats, Proof of involvement in persecuted groups, etc.

This is where you’ll spend all the money you're earning from work—on a lawyer.

Legal aid lawyers (free ones) will only do the bare minimum, so you’ll need a better lawyer to give your case the best chance.

Many Nigerians applying for asylum are actually economic immigrants, which is why a lot of claims are denied. I’ve mentioned that Nigerians have only about a 13.71% chance of getting their asylum claim approved.

Important Long-Term Consequences:

If you claim asylum and it gets approved (with a 13.71% chance), keep in mind the long-term consequences for you and your family:

You may wait 2 to 4 years for your first hearing, leaving you in limbo.

If your asylum claim is rejected, you will keep reapplying and it may be a long, drawn-out process.

You won’t be able to return to your home country for up to 10 years, sometimes longer, until you secure Canadian citizenship.

Once you get citizenship, it's harder to revoke. But fraud or misrepresentation can still lead to revocation.

Impact on Your Family and Travel:

Your family members will face difficulty traveling or obtaining temporary permits to Canada and other countries UK USA EU

If asylum is denied, getting permits and visas to other countries could also be very difficult, even an Electronic Travel Authorization (ETA) for places like the UK could be denied—even if you have a visa-free Canadian passport (e.g., Canada to the UK).

In short, it’s not really worth it.

I can keep going, but I just want you to consider all this before making any decisions.

And remember, in November 2023, a Nigerian man in his 40s tragically died in a tent outside the Dundas Shelter, and a few months later, a Kenyan woman died under similar circumstances. These are the harsh realities that no one often talks about.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/asylum-seeker-death-mississauga-federal-funding-1.7123310

Alright, that's enough for now.