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Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by okuta007: 3:23pm On Jun 10, 2025
Obiedun:
It doesn't matter. Richard Mofe Damijo is an urhobo man but he bears Itsekiri'name
Is Damijo an Itsekiri name ?

Mofe is his name because his mother is Itsekiri - BUT Damijo is an Urhobo name because his father is Urhobo

In Nigeria, your father's tribe is your tribe

Reno's mother is Itsekiri, his father is Urhobo - why are you disowning him ? because he is a hungry "anywhere belle face" mad man

If he was a successful man in business and other ventures of life, you will claim him abi? Reno Omokri is Urhobo man - DEAL WITH IT grin
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Konquest: 3:42pm On Jun 10, 2025
Gbajure:
Correct. But the Ọba and ruling house of Bini are Yorubas directly from Oranmiyan, a true son of Ogun, and step grandson of Odùduwà.

The Ijebus ruling house are also directly of Odùduwà blood but not all Ijebus
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:09pm On Jun 10, 2025
Putindbutt:
But you can see them here identifying with their ancestral kinsmen and not ibos. The fact that people are your neighbors doesn't mean they have to be ibo, that's why you are coercing SS minorities as ibos.
nobody is coercing any minority in SS. If you're sure of what you're saying then name these SS minorities that are being coerced.
Besides, I know you have never been to Anioma before otherwise you would have known that Olukumi is a very tiny area in Igbo Area of Delta. They're so small that they don't even have a LG.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:12pm On Jun 10, 2025
zero8zero:
Anioma is multi ethnic and multi cultural. We have igala, Urhobo, Olukumi, igbos, Agbor, Ika etc are part of Anioma.
lol... They didn't tell you that Ika is Igbo?
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:13pm On Jun 10, 2025
Gustavowhite:
Nobody is coercing anybody,am sure you cant even differentiate an uche from there and another from Igbo mainland,you guys that even call Benins “omo ibo”
Are you minding this ones that have never seen the Niger bridge with their two eyes?
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:20pm On Jun 10, 2025
zero8zero:
Social media has lied to you that Anioma is Igbo. Go to Anioma communities in Delta and cure your ignorance, stop arguing with me.
lol .. do you even know where Anioma is? There's no indigenous Urhobo community in Anioma, ika are Igbo and Agbor is not a tribe. People who have never been to Delta State are talking authoritatively about the make up of the state.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:25pm On Jun 10, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
grin you can direct your grievance to the ikwerres, who have consistently Denied being ibo grin I even had this conversation with my ikwerre friend yesterday while have some drinks and he told me they are not Igbos but their ancestors migrated from Benin and they were married to ibo women grin but itesekiris on the other hand have never denied their Yoruba heritage grin even though we no send them weather they chose to identify with us or not grin
lol.... You don't have an Ikwere friend, no dey lie for here. I have bursted your lies on this matter way too many times and you still go around spreading ignorance all over the place.
Most Ikwere identify as Igbo, in fact they have an Igbo group comprises of Ikwere, ogba, Etche etc that categorically identified as igbos and Warned mischievous elements like you to stop peddling false information that they aren't.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 10:38pm On Jun 10, 2025
Obiedun:
It doesn't matter. Richard Mofe Damijo is an urhobo man but he bears Itsekiri'name
wait I used to think that RMD was Yoruba huh
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by ProudlyLagos: 11:06pm On Jun 10, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
lol.... You don't have an Ikwere friend, no dey lie for here. I have bursted your lies on this matter way too many times and you still go around spreading ignorance all over the place.
Most Ikwere identify as Igbo, in fact they have an Igbo group comprises of Ikwere, ogba, Etche etc that categorically identified as igbos and Warned mischievous elements like you to stop peddling false information that they aren't.
grin I don’t have ikwerre friend? Pls who is this nonentity? Have you met me before to come to that conclusion? You can keep deceiving your low inferior self with your forced attachments with people who have consistently rejected you 😂😂😂😂

Even ameachi in the last arise interview stated clearly, that majority of ikwerres don’t identify with ibos, it is on the internet grin you can clear your doubt grin since you lack shame, you can continue to deceive your poor self😂😂
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:14pm On Jun 10, 2025
Konquest:
@abagworo,

Don't spew heavy disinformation here. Your totally embarrassing and FALSE narrative right ABOVE will NOT be tolerated. I've done a lot of advanced reading on the history of the Olukumis since the 1980s right till date so I know a lot about them. I started noticing a high rate of hate speech, disinformation and expansionist agenda coming from some young posters online from the east of River Niger in the year 2010 who threatened to chase the Olukumis off their own Olukumi ancestral lands. By the grace of the ancestors, the over 80 million strong Yorubas worldwide will resist this by any means necessary! NOBODY should ever openly threaten anyone like these paid ipob troll farms are doing because they have Yoruba, Benin, Esan, Ibibio, Isokos, Igala, Ikwere roots in the expansionist agenda being propagated online.

You that your ancestors migrated to Oguta in the current Imo State, how would you feel if somebody came up like you have done in your post to say that they are NOT Oguta owners? As for the Olukumi's, the Aniocha people you alluded to NEVER accomodated them. Aniocha North and other parts of Anioma (or Delta North) is an ethnically diverse place in terms of origin as confirmed by Reverend Father Kinirum Osia. All Olukumis used their Yoruba names in the past BUT with time due to acculturations, they picked up Edo names and Iboid names in addition to their Olukumi names. This is why the king of Ugbodu or Oloza (Oloja) is known as HRM Ayo Isinyemeze. The iconic 1985 under 17 FIFA soccer star, Nduka Ugbade ALSO comes from Ugbodu. They speak their Olukumi dialect of Yoruba and it's clearly understandable to those who listen well. Zeal of music group "Style Plus" too is an Olukumi and many Olukumis occupy significant positions in business, government, the armed forces, tech, etc.

The Olukumi's were the FIRST EVER to settle in their lands centuries back NOT on any Iboland.
There were different waves of migrations into what is now called Anioma today including Agbor, Issele Uku, Olukumi lands, etc, of Yoruba people from Yorubaland including USEN (a Yoruba town with an Oba Oluogbe Ii in the current Ovia South West LGA of Edo State), Benin, and Esanland not just Owo. The Yoruba connection with the Royal Palace lineage in Benin via USEN (Afelogiyan who was Oranmiyan's older biological brother was the FIRST EVER traditional ruler of USEN many centuries back and they proudly claim Ile Ife as where they come from) and USEN plays a strong role in the coronation ceremony of every Oba of Benin. There are videos on YouTube showing USEN indigenes of Edo State affirming their Ile Ife and Yoruba ancestries.



Infact the Ugbodu people (located close to Issele Uku the Aniocha North headquarters) who are one of the Olukumi groups share direct boundaries with the Esan people of Esanland. It was through Esanland that the came into their current location. Nobody accomodated them and you will NEVER here any of the neighbors of the Olukumi's make such a very dubious comment. It's only Ibos from the east of the river Niger that have been spreading that terrible disinformation that will be crushed.

Last but NOT least, Anioma is made up of people of multiple ethnic ancestries from centuries back from the Igalas (who are also Yoruboid because 65% of words in Igala are derived purely from Yoruba language and Igalas partly have some Yoruba, Edo, Wukari migrant ancestries according to a 2017 Punch interview granted by the Attah of Igala, Michael Ameh Oboni which can still be read online), Yoruba, Bini-Edo, Esan-Edo, Nri descents in different Anioma communities. Anioma is NOT culturally monolithic and CANNOT be claimed as Ibo. Reverend Father Kinirum Osia who hailed from Obamkpa in Aniocha North ALSO granted several powerful interviews where he condemned the attempt by Ibos east of River Niger to disrespect Anioma folks by claiming that Anioma is Ibo. What is even the etymology of the name Ibo? It's just a name that was adopted by the British Colonialists about 150 years ago BUT gained traction after 1900 to describe the different distinct groups of people such as the Ngwa, Owere, Oka, Mbaise, Oguta, etc, into a collective umbrella. That's how the concept of an Ibo tribe evolved with the White man and the coming of the missionaries such as Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther who as a trained linguist and clergyman wrote the FIRST EVER book in Ibo language entitled: "Isoama-Ibo: A Primer" in 1855 based off of his experience of writing the FIRST EVER Yoruba alphabet, dictionary and books in 1843. Prior to that, these subgroups of what is now called Ibo didn't call themselves as Ibos until much into the 1900s.

Unknown to the younger ones and the uninformed, the term IBO (Igbo) has it's ORIGINAL origins and was ONLY used in a condescending or derogatory sense by the ethnic neighbors of those in the Ibo (Igbo) interior as a term to describe "slaves or bush-dwelling" people who engaged in cannibalism and there are advanced history books that I will attach BELOW as evidence. The Igalas [who captured Ibos as slaves and sold them to the people of Aboh which was a major slave port now in Delta State] called Ibos (ONIGBO), the Benin-Edos used the term "IGBON" meaning slaves to refer to Ibos, the Asaba folks used the term "ONYE IGBO" as a term of contempt as well because East of the river Niger was the primary source of slaves.
This is utter nonsense! At what time did igala capture Igbo? Which part of igbo did they capture? Where were the igala during the Aro confederacy that existed had existed for more than a hundred before the Brits came and dismantled it? This stupid narrative of Igbo being slaves to igala and inheriting their name from them is a concocted story that can only be found in the stables of Reno Omokry

Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Zeebuy: 11:33pm On Jun 10, 2025
success1smyn:
Some of you need help really, Delta North is Igbo and nobody's denying that. Let anyone identify with whoever they want. Olukumi is actually a pure Yoruba word meaning my close friend.
The day the Igbo parts of Delta held a ceremony to rejoin their Igbo folks, these Yoruba people were jumping all over the thread, saying all sorts of rubbish. Did you not see that thread?
You guys are funny o, are you now land-grabbers? That's what your tribesmen called Igbos on that thread
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Zeebuy: 11:36pm On Jun 10, 2025
zero8zero:
Delta North is not only Igbo. There are several tribes in Delta North.
Are you now admitting there are Ìgbos outside the SE?
I thought you used to say they're confined in their 5 plots of land
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Tonitoniton(m): 11:41pm On Jun 10, 2025
zero8zero:
Ignorance at its peak
You and your likes go learn
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Tonitoniton(m): 11:42pm On Jun 10, 2025
Gbajure:
And pls tell us who Binis are?
Not Edos that Yoruba call Ados but Binis
Binis are same as edos

Bini is a superior race to yoruba
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:49pm On Jun 10, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
grin I don’t have ikwerre friend? Pls who is this nonentity? Have you met me before to come to that conclusion? You can keep deceiving your low inferior self with your forced attachments with people who have consistently rejected you 😂😂😂😂

Even ameachi in the last arise interview stated clearly, that majority of ikwerres don’t identify with ibos, it is on the internet grin you can clear your doubt grin since you lack shame, you can continue to deceive your poor self😂😂
here from the Ikwere, ogba, Etche etc

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/02/group-says-indigenous-igbos-in-rivers-part-of-ndigbo-ethnic-nationality/
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Konquest:
IyfeNamikaze:
This is utter nonsense! At what time did igala capture Igbo? Which part of igbo did they capture? Where were the igala during the Aro confederacy that existed had existed for more than a hundred before the Brits came and dismantled it?

This stupid narrative of Igbo being slaves to igala and inheriting their name from them is a concocted story that can only be found in the stables of Reno Omokry
Leave Reno Omokri out of your rants and get your historical facts right. This pure historical information is from advanced archival materials I've been privy to from different credible sources for decades now as as a well-read and internationally well-traveled man. Reno himself doesn't always get his FACTS right (especially when he is not in the best frame of mind due to stress or fatigue), BUT as a UK-educated lawyer, he MUST be commended for always apologizing whenever he is wrong and he indeed does a damn good job of presenting a logical sequence of FACTS and events backed by rock solid sources for further verifications.

Second, the screenshots of the internationally respected and advanced books on the Igala conquests of parts of what is now called Iboland and the derogatory origins of the name Ibo (Igbo) denoting a slave of the bush area or ONIGBO in Igala, IGBON in Benin-Edo and ONYE IBO (IGBO) to the Onitsha and Asaba folks were CLEARLY ATTACHED to my NL post which you quoted. Take the time to read through those book screenshots again.

Third, just so you know, I have decades of advanced historical knowledge (before many here were even born), so, I ONLY provide accurate historical information backed by credible EVIDENCE and book sources and NOT assumptions like these unschooled young posters and propergandist do online. It is what it is. Read More on the Igala Conquests of Northern Iboland right up to the Asaba area right BELOW

VIDEO of Catholic Bishop: Attah of Igala Conquered Northern Igboland (Nsukka) All The Way To Asaba
=>https://www.nairaland.com/8089723/catholic-bishop-attah-igala-conquered

=>

Ibo-Igala Wars
=>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%25E2%2580%2593Igala_wars


Fourth, the Iconic book, "The Igbo-Igala Borderland" [written by an American academic who taught at University of Nigeria, Nsukka back from the 1960s to the 1970s] whose book cover screenshot I also ATTACHED earlier to my post ABOVE CLEARLY states that:

"When, in the late eighteenth century, the Igala CONQUERED the indigenous Igbo, they gained and held social control through monopoly of certain..."

=>https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Igbo-Igala-Borderland2


The Igala conquests and colonisation of Northern Ibo areas of Northern Enugu especially Nsukka including parts of Anambra (and Northern Delta State) ALSO led to people from these conquered area being sold as SLAVES. The Igala war machine during the Ibo-Igala Wars didn't extend to other parts of what is now the South East.

=>https://www.facebook.com/nigeriahistoryupdate/posts/igala-colonisation-of-northern-igbo-communities-1450-18th-centurythe-igala-mega-/

Fifth, again, the screenshots of the advanced book sources I ATTACHED CLEARLY state the accurate and ORIGINAL etymology of the word Ibo (Igbo) which has condescending and derogatory connotations as used by the neighbors of the people now called Ibo unknown to some younger Ibos today who have NO knowledge of the original meaning which means SLAVE or OUT CAST from the bush. This is why the Igala call slaves "ONIGBO," the Benin-Edos used the term "IGBON" and the Asaba and Onitsha refered condescendingly to those in the Ibo interior as "ONYE IBO" (IGBO) because East of river Niger was source of SLAVES for them before 1900 and even well after 1900. Igala being a Yoruboid language (with 65% mutual intelligibility with Yoruba language) has the pure Yoruba word "IGBO" in the word Igala word "ONIGBO" which means bush or forest in Yoruba BUT further means a "slave got from the bush" in Igala hence the derogatory name for slaves, "ONIGBO."



The name Ibo (Igbo) as used to describe a tribe east of river Niger had NO positive connotation of ANY kind at all! Ngwa, Owere, Awka, Mbaise, etc, were the names used by the subgroups to individually describe themselves until the advent of the missionaries and the British Colonialists who began to officially use the same condescending term "Ibo" to describe all the interior tribes that now make up the Ibo tribe of today. It's all a British Colonial creation. These FACTS are CLEARLY emphasized upon in the historical archives.

Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by ProudlyLagos: 6:53am On Jun 11, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
here from the Ikwere, ogba, Etche etc

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/02/group-says-indigenous-igbos-in-rivers-part-of-ndigbo-ethnic-nationality/
grin nwanne, bikonu rest…..why are you in a desperate attempt to seek validation from people who have consistently rejected you? Have some self respect for yourself grin you don’t see Yorubas seeking validation from Yorubas in other regions, rather they want to be associated with the larger Yoruba ethnic group in Sw grin

Just like I said, I have ikwerres friends and even during my service year in owerri, I met some few ikwerres who have vehemently rejected being ibo, or don’t you think they have the right to that? Or how as a small group of people against a larger majority who have vehemently rejected the ibo identity speaking for the generality of ikwerres?

Go and watch the interview of ameachi on arise Tv, it’s on the internet incase you missed it grin he stated clearly that if you ask majority of the ikwerres today, majority will reject being ibo and he belongs to the tiny minority who still identify with his ibo heritage which I believe the group represents grin so bikonu rest, it’s so nauseating seeing a majority tribe like Igbo seeking for validation from a minority tribe grin
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Obiedun(m): 9:45am On Jun 11, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
wait I used to think that RMD was Yoruba huh
Not at all. He is from Delta. An Urhobo man. Most of them live in Lagos and other parts of Yoruba land hence they speak Yoruba
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by success1smyn(m): 10:18am On Jun 11, 2025
Zeebuy:
The day the Igbo parts of Delta held a ceremony to rejoin their Igbo folks, these Yoruba people were jumping all over the thread, saying all sorts of rubbish. Did you not see that thread?
You guys are funny o, are you now land-grabbers? That's what your tribesmen called Igbos on that thread
I don't argue/discuss with people of low quality brain. How do I recognise one? Anyone that tag all tribe just to make a point is one.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by CyrusVI(m): 12:17pm On Jun 11, 2025
Zionmdde:
Don't really like doing this but let me ask
Isinyemeze and atuwatse from delta are from yoruba groups
But ifeanyi from delta and amaechi from rivers are not from Igbo groups.

Hope you can help me explain better though
This B-i-g-o-t again

You dont really like doing it, but on an Itshekiri thread, na I-gbo matter you carry come here
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by CyrusVI(m): 12:23pm On Jun 11, 2025
Zionmdde:
Still does answer why majority of ikwerre names have igbo meaning. If we go by your logic, in 30yrs time, there will be thousands of yorubas whose name and surname are Igbo names?

Mind you am not very interested in whether anyone is igbo or not. It doesn't in anyway affect my life. I am targeting hypocritic souls here on NL. They are angry when ikwerre man was made head of ohaneze group but are celebrating because two groups had a friendly outing
Ikwerres are coming out to deny their Igbo link, Itshekiri and co are coming out to affirm their Yoruba connection

How many times have you seen any Yoruba group lay claims to anything Itshekiri. No one is even asking them to unite with their SW counterpart

You, on the other hand, you become angry whenever others deny being Igbo

You cant decide for another group
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Zionmdde: 12:28pm On Jun 11, 2025
CyrusVI:
Ikwerres are coming out to deny their Igbo link, Itshekiri and co are coming out to affirm their Yoruba connection

How many times have you seen any Yoruba group lay claims to anything Itshekiri. No one is even asking them to unite with their SW counterpart

You, on the other hand, you become angry whenever others deny being Igbo

You cant decide for another group
Deny or affirm doesn't have effect on the roots
Meanwhile I don't care who is Igbo or who is not, it adds or reduces nothing from my life. Unlike you guys that want to die on the matter. I just wanted OP to answer my simple question
Which you obviously didn't answer

Now why is Emeka from delta not igbo while Isinyemeze from delta is yoruba. Incase you missed the question
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m):
Konquest:
Leave Reno Omokri out of your rants and get your historical facts right. This pure historical information is from advanced archival materials I've been privy to from different credible sources for decades now as as a well-read and internationally well-traveled man. Reno himself doesn't always get his FACTS right (especially when he is not in the best frame of mind due to stress or fatigue), BUT as a UK-educated lawyer, he MUST be commended for always apologizing whenever he is wrong and he indeed does a damn good job of presenting a logical sequence of FACTS and events backed by rock solid sources for further verifications.

Second, the screenshots of the internationally respected and advanced books on the Igala conquests of parts of what is now called Iboland and the derogatory origins of the name Ibo (Igbo) denoting a slave of the bush area or ONIGBO in Igala, IGBON in Benin-Edo and ONYE IBO (IGBO) to the Onitsha and Asaba folks were CLEARLY ATTACHED to my NL post which you quoted. Take the time to read through those book screenshots again.

Third, just so you know, I have decades of advanced historical knowledge (before many here were even born), so, I ONLY provide accurate historical information backed by credible EVIDENCE and book sources and NOT assumptions like these unschooled young posters and propergandist do online. It is what it is. Read More on the Igala Conquests of Northern Iboland right up to the Asaba area right BELOW

VIDEO of Catholic Bishop: Attah of Igala Conquered Northern Igboland (Nsukka) All The Way To Asaba
=>https://www.nairaland.com/8089723/catholic-bishop-attah-igala-conquered

=>

Ibo-Igala Wars
=>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%25E2%2580%2593Igala_wars


Fourth, the Iconic book, "The Igbo-Igala Borderland" [written by an American academic who taught at University of Nigeria, Nsukka back from the 1960s to the 1970s] whose book cover screenshot I also ATTACHED earlier to my post ABOVE CLEARLY states that:

"When, in the late eighteenth century, the Igala CONQUERED the indigenous Igbo, they gained and held social control through monopoly of certain..."

=>https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Igbo-Igala-Borderland2


The Igala conquests and colonisation of Northern Ibo areas of Northern Enugu especially Nsukka including parts of Anambra (and Northern Delta State) ALSO led to people from these conquered area being sold as SLAVES. The Igala war machine during the Ibo-Igala Wars didn't extend to other parts of what is now the South East.

=>https://www.facebook.com/nigeriahistoryupdate/posts/igala-colonisation-of-northern-igbo-communities-1450-18th-centurythe-igala-mega-/

Fifth, again, the screenshots of the advanced book sources I ATTACHED CLEARLY state the accurate and ORIGINAL etymology of the word Ibo (Igbo) which has condescending and derogatory connotations as used by the neighbors of the people now called Ibo unknown to some younger Ibos today who have NO knowledge of the original meaning which means SLAVE or OUT CAST from the bush. This is why the Igala call slaves "ONIGBO," the Benin-Edos used the term "IGBON" and the Asaba and Onitsha refered condescendingly to those in the Ibo interior as "ONYE IBO" (IGBO) because East of river Niger was source of SLAVES for them before 1900 and even well after 1900. Igala being a Yoruboid language (with 65% mutual intelligibility with Yoruba language) has the pure Yoruba word "IGBO" in the word Igala word "ONIGBO" which means bush or forest in Yoruba BUT further means a "slave got from the bush" in Igala hence the derogatory name for slaves, "ONIGBO."



The name Ibo (Igbo) as used to describe a tribe east of river Niger had NO positive connotation of ANY kind at all! Ngwa, Owere, Awka, Mbaise, etc, were the names used by the subgroups to individually describe themselves until the advent of the missionaries and the British Colonialists who began to officially use the same condescending term "Ibo" to describe all the interior tribes that now make up the Ibo tribe of today. It's all a British Colonial creation. These FACTS are CLEARLY emphasized upon in the historical archives.
please can you stop spreading this bullshit claims already?

In Igala language the term for slave is Ójó pronounced (Oh joh). This refers to individuals captured in wars or treaded during pre colonial times. Although that term is now considered as archaic due to its association with transatlantic slave trade. But that is the word for Slave in ancient Igala during the pre colonial times.
In contemporary usage, phrases like ọde eni ( servant) or ọme ọni ( dependant) might be preferred for neutrality.
Igala oral traditions sometimes reference slavery in proverbs : Ójó léké égba ògwu ( A Slave who survives becomed a storyteller)

As for the term for "OUTCAST" or "SOCIALLY OSTRACIZED PERSON" is Ọ̀mè-ọ̀chè . There are some other contextual variations like Ọ̀me-èfu, ọ̀me-àtọ and Ọ̀me-ọlè.
Go and ask any Igala person and they will educate you more on this.

So your claims that onigbo or igbo means slaves in Igala is wrong and total bullshit! Anyone who says that should be regarded as a quark and should be ignored because he/she is wrong based on standard Igala language and historical- linguistic evidence, and I'm going to Tell you why

As previously established, Ójó is the universally accepted Igala word for Slave across dialects ( Idah, Ankpa, Dekina etc) .

Onigbo in Igala means Igbo person (ONI = person, IGBO= igbo ethnic group). It is not synonymous with slave, it's an ethnic identifier just as Onèja means Hausa person.

Possible confusion or misinterpretation

During the trans Saharan/Atlantic slave trade,some Igbo people were enslaved and sold through Igala middlemen (e.g at the Aboh and Idah slave markets). so overtime some outsiders or even locals might have conflated the ethnic term Onigbo with slavery due to this history .
And if we look at academic sources, John Idakwoji's Igala-English lexicon confirms that Ójó is the correct term in Igala linguistics. And Modern Igala communities reject Onigbo as meaning slavery because it's an ethnic libel.
So while some Igbo people were sold as slaves, their ethnic name ≠ the word for Slavery.

HERE ARE DIRECT QUOTES FROM HISTORICAL TEXTS, PROVERBS, SCHOLARLY SOURCES That disproves the claims that igbo/Onigbo means slaves in Igala and affirms that Ójó is the correct term.

"THE IGALA KINGDOM" (1972) by J.S Boston:
"The Igala referes to slaves generally as Ójó, whether captured or through war, trade or punishment. The term Onigbo was preserved solely for Igbo neighbours not servitude"

"THE NIGERIAN HINTERLAND SLAVE TRADE" (1989) by A.J.N Tremeane:
"At the Idah slave markets, records show that slaves were called Ójó, regardless of ethnicity, the term Igbo appears only to describe captives of igbo origin, not as synonym for slavery

Here are also proverbs in Igala

Ójó léké égba ògwu, Òméja léké égba ògwu ( A Slave who survives becomes a storyteller, a free person who survives becomes a storyteller)

Átá y'Ójó kome y'ọmeja (The king's slave and the king's freeborn are not equal)

Also If you check the Igala-English lexicon dictionary (2015) by John Idawoji:
Ójó: n, Slave, servant≠ Onigbo(n, Igbo person)

A GRAMMAR OF IGALA(2020) by E.J Alagoa
"No lexical or archival evidence supports "Onigbo" as slave in Igala. This conflation likely stems from 19th century slave trade narratives misinterpreting ethnic labels"

This whole misinformation likely stems from post ethnic stigma or interethnic tensions, but linguistic rigor and historical records dispel it.

Go read those books I referenced and cure your ignorance. There's an Igala dictionary, look for it also. Ask any Igala person whether what I wrote here is bullshit or not. Not even a single Igala person would agree with you on your fake and quark theories.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by IyfeNamikaze(m):
Konquest:
Leave Reno Omokri out of your rants and get your historical facts right. This pure historical information is from advanced archival materials I've been privy to from different credible sources for decades now as as a well-read and internationally well-traveled man. Reno himself doesn't always get his FACTS right (especially when he is not in the best frame of mind due to stress or fatigue), BUT as a UK-educated lawyer, he MUST be commended for always apologizing whenever he is wrong and he indeed does a damn good job of presenting a logical sequence of FACTS and events backed by rock solid sources for further verifications.

Second, the screenshots of the internationally respected and advanced books on the Igala conquests of parts of what is now called Iboland and the derogatory origins of the name Ibo (Igbo) denoting a slave of the bush area or ONIGBO in Igala, IGBON in Benin-Edo and ONYE IBO (IGBO) to the Onitsha and Asaba folks were CLEARLY ATTACHED to my NL post which you quoted. Take the time to read through those book screenshots again.

Third, just so you know, I have decades of advanced historical knowledge (before many here were even born), so, I ONLY provide accurate historical information backed by credible EVIDENCE and book sources and NOT assumptions like these unschooled young posters and propergandist do online. It is what it is. Read More on the Igala Conquests of Northern Iboland right up to the Asaba area right BELOW

VIDEO of Catholic Bishop: Attah of Igala Conquered Northern Igboland (Nsukka) All The Way To Asaba
=>https://www.nairaland.com/8089723/catholic-bishop-attah-igala-conquered

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Ibo-Igala Wars
=>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%25E2%2580%2593Igala_wars


Fourth, the Iconic book, "The Igbo-Igala Borderland" [written by an American academic who taught at University of Nigeria, Nsukka back from the 1960s to the 1970s] whose book cover screenshot I also ATTACHED earlier to my post ABOVE CLEARLY states that:

"When, in the late eighteenth century, the Igala CONQUERED the indigenous Igbo, they gained and held social control through monopoly of certain..."

=>https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Igbo-Igala-Borderland2


The Igala conquests and colonisation of Northern Ibo areas of Northern Enugu especially Nsukka including parts of Anambra (and Northern Delta State) ALSO led to people from these conquered area being sold as SLAVES. The Igala war machine during the Ibo-Igala Wars didn't extend to other parts of what is now the South East.

=>https://www.facebook.com/nigeriahistoryupdate/posts/igala-colonisation-of-northern-igbo-communities-1450-18th-centurythe-igala-mega-/

Fifth, again, the screenshots of the advanced book sources I ATTACHED CLEARLY state the accurate and ORIGINAL etymology of the word Ibo (Igbo) which has condescending and derogatory connotations as used by the neighbors of the people now called Ibo unknown to some younger Ibos today who have NO knowledge of the original meaning which means SLAVE or OUT CAST from the bush. This is why the Igala call slaves "ONIGBO," the Benin-Edos used the term "IGBON" and the Asaba and Onitsha refered condescendingly to those in the Ibo interior as "ONYE IBO" (IGBO) because East of river Niger was source of SLAVES for them before 1900 and even well after 1900. Igala being a Yoruboid language (with 65% mutual intelligibility with Yoruba language) has the pure Yoruba word "IGBO" in the word Igala word "ONIGBO" which means bush or forest in Yoruba BUT further means a "slave got from the bush" in Igala hence the derogatory name for slaves, "ONIGBO."



The name Ibo (Igbo) as used to describe a tribe east of river Niger had NO positive connotation of ANY kind at all! Ngwa, Owere, Awka, Mbaise, etc, were the names used by the subgroups to individually describe themselves until the advent of the missionaries and the British Colonialists who began to officially use the same condescending term "Ibo" to describe all the interior tribes that now make up the Ibo tribe of today. It's all a British Colonial creation. These FACTS are CLEARLY emphasized upon in the historical archives.
As for the Igala conquering and colonising the Igbo people, the relationship between the Igbo and Igala was complex, involving periods of conflicts, cultural exchange and political tension. But outright conquest of igbo Lands by the Igala is debated by historians.

The Igala kingdom ( present day Kogi) under the Attah of Igala expanded southward into northern Igbo areas ( e.g Nsukka, Enugu -Ezike, Nkpologu) between the 17th-19th centuries. Igala warriors established and levied some Igbo communities but they didn't fully conquer them in the sense of permanent occupation , they were conducting raids, capturing and selling Igbo people in slave markets in Aboh and Idah.
However, northern Igbo groups like Umunri, Nsukka resisted the Igala and by 19th century many had regained autonomy.

"THE IGALA KINGDOM" by J.S Boston (1968)
"the Igala exacted tribute from border Igbo communities, but lacked administrative machinery for direct rule. Their influence was mere cultural than imperial"

"IGBO -IGALA RELATIONS by A.E Afigbo(1981)
"the Igala raids were disruptive but did not constitute conquest, igbo societies absorbed and resisted the Igala pressure in equal measure "

So although the igala exerted military pressure and cultural influence on the northern Igbo communities, They didn't achieve sustained conquest. The relationship was more about raids, trade and intermittent dominance than wholesale subjugation.

As the Igala kingdom expanded southward under Attah Ayegba Ọma idoko( mostly just around Enugu) they clashed with Umunri a powerful Igbo group near Nsukka. The Igala initially gained control and levied taxes like yams, slaves. However the Umunri rebelled and reclaimed autonomy.
Even the Igalas Ogurugu campaigning ended in a stalemate, they couldn't gain control there. They also attacked Izzi-igbo in present day Abakiliki but the locals fought them off using guerilla tactics.
Also, at Ụzọ uwani in 1850s, when the Igala demanded tribute from Akụ igbo, The Aku people led by a woman named Omu okwei poisoned Igala tax collectors and burned their outposts. The Igala had to withdraw from there.

So indeed the Igala won some battles but they couldn't maintain any hold on Igbo land long enough due to Igbo resistance and decentralised government.

So please stop spreading all these quark theories that has no truth in it. The Igala Never conquered any major part of igbo Land.

And also Igbo or onigbo doesn't mean slave in Igala.

So it's totally bullshit to say that the Igala who couldn't even conquer up to 20 percent of Igbo land where the ones who termed them Igbo, that's complete nonsense! The Igala couldn't even hold a place for long and couldn't fully subjugate the Igbo fully, so how possible is it that they regarded them as slaves or conquered people especially when it's just border communities that they encountered?
Igbo people in the hinterlands have been calling themselves IGBO or ndígbo for centuries and they never encountered the Igala.

So please go and your ass one side with that your quark theories, scholars have refuted this bullshit already.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by RedboneSmith(m): 6:02am On Jun 12, 2025
Ttipsy:
lol I don’t understand! The poster bears Igbo name “Uchenna and he’s saying our Oloza
lol 😂
Because Olukumi people also bear Ìgbò names. Can't you see that the Oloza's surname "Isinyemeze" is an Ìgbò name too?
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by RedboneSmith(m): 6:07am On Jun 12, 2025
Christlike01:
Reno Omokri is Itsekiri, please!
His father is Urhobo. His mother is Itsekiri. In all extant African cultures, paternal descent is emphasised over maternal descent. Thus, rightly, Reno should be Urhobo. Omokri is an Urhobo name, not Itsekiri.

But for some reason, Reno is ashamed of his paternal heritage and clings exclusively to his maternal descent.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by RedboneSmith(m): 6:17am On Jun 12, 2025
Abagworo:
That's how people misbehave as a result of Igbo benevolence. They migrated from Owo and were accomodated by Aniocha people with full citizenship rights and autonomy of existence. Hopefully they will not now claim the autochthonous Aniocha people are migrants.
That claim has already been made. There are Olukumi people who believe that they got there before the other Aniocha people came there to settle. That is why they also call themselves "Odiani" which means "people that have been on the ground" (before others), i.e., autochtones.
Re: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by Christlike01: 2:39pm On Jun 12, 2025
RedboneSmith:
His father is Urhobo. His mother is Itsekiri. In all extant African cultures, paternal descent is emphasised over maternal descent. Thus, rightly, Reno should be Urhobo. Omokri is an Urhobo name, not Itsekiri.

But for some reason, Reno is ashamed of his paternal heritage and clings exclusively to his maternal descent.
Reno is whoever he says he is, and besides, I don't think anyone can claim to know him better than he knows himself. Reno is not Urhobo; he is Itsekiri.
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