₦airaland Forum

Armaggedon:
this was why they banned history. They didn't say the book was false, they said it's a threat to national unity

And the person that banned history is the lady below.

Karlman:
Fact is Igbo ancestors were at Ife, yes, same Ile Ife, and I heard it first from the Oni of Ife. What I don't know is if they were the first to settle there, and that is where the government should dig up in earnest search for truth and fact.

And as for those of you jumping up and down over what you know next to nothing about, the present Igbo is not planning to come back to Ife for any reason, in fact it was the Oni himself that was asking Igbos not to forget they moved from Ife.

Let the government set up a committee of enquiry to look into history.

Igbos have been in Ife which the Oni himself spoke about severally that Igbos were once at Ife, and same as benin.

I heard Oni of Ife in a video telling Igbo people that they moved from Ife in the olden days.
Government should do a finding rather than dismiss the book entirely just to be politically right.

Going through comments on this threads showed how obviously there little number of learned people on nairaland. No brainstorming, no academic exchange, just blind and ignorant arguments from people who know next to nothing about the topic.

FYI Igbo ancestors were at Ile Ife, go and dig up. The question here is, we're they the first.

The ooni was talking about the Ugbo people in present day Ondo. Vanguard published it as Igbo even though they know it's Ugbo.
Vanguard has been pushing tribal agenda these days.

Goodvibes007:
You would be shocked at what people are propagating out there. Igbos have been steadily claiming Obatala for the last 2 years or so on Twitter

On social media, you will see Igbos claiming Ijebu Igbo and other some other Yoruba towns that have an igbo in it.

Igbo in Yoruba means forest or bush. The Ile Ife one is Ugbo people who are now in present day Ondo state under Oba Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan (Owner of OBAT petroleum).

Our Igbo brothers have also laid claim to Igodomigodo (present day Edo state).

They have also laid claim to America, Edo and some parts of India too.

This is beyond ridiculous. I wouldn't have believed you if you didn't post screenshots 😂

Armaggedon:
this was why they banned history. They didn't say the book was false, they said it's a threat to national unity

You clearly didn’t read at all..

According to the petition, two books—Standard History Studies for JSS 1–3 by Tony and Ijeoma Duru, and The Igbo: People, History and Worldview by Dons Eze and Chinedu Ochinanwata—contain false narratives that present Ile-Ife as originally settled by the Igbo before Oduduwa allegedly invaded and drove them out.

Armaggedon:
it is the duty of intelligentsia to challenge it. You do not use state institutions to fight scholarly research. Truth is the most powerful ideology, if you fight it with brute force instead of truth, even the enemies of it will come to accept it.

Can't you see that one of the book has on its front page that it was approved by ministry of education when that was clearly false. The writers of that book should he arrested and prosecuted.

Ugbo not igbo. Obviously a typo. Much ado about nothing

menacetosociety:
May God save us from these people 🙏🙏🙏 cos this is something else

one Nigeria
















No be so?

What else our Brother from the other side never claim, I remember they once claim Jew… na them be black China, only them still be black Japanese

Who no like better thing. After destroying SE. they think the solution is just to steal a whole region and continue where they stopped in SE. something de do this people . This is more than ancestral problem. Lmao.

There is some truth in the book as told by Ooni Palace during the reign of Oba Sijuade and retold even by Moremi Secondary school if you know ile ife.


The Yoruba historian back then told us that Moremi saved Ile-Ife from Igbo people invasion, how?

They said some strangers always invaded Ile-Ife dressed in a masquerade outfit made with dried grass.


The Yoruba historians said these strangers kept attacking Ife people and kept winning them and making away with their belongings until Moremi, a very beautiful Ile-Ife daughter with a sparkling light skin complexion volunteered to help her people unmask the invaders by making herself available at the place the invaders usually attacked, and when they saw her, they carried her along with other Ile-Ife indigenes they always go along with, and when they got to their place, their king saw Moremi and liked her because of her extreme beauty and married her.


From there, Moremi was taken to the Igbo invaders King palace where Moremi then discovered that those invaders were not spirits like Ile-Ife people believed but were ordinary humans dressed in masquerade costume.


It took Moremi some years to study this and as soon as she got the secret, she escaped back to Ile-Ife and leaked the secret to Ile-Ife kingdom and they prepared and waited for the Igbo invaders and when they attacked, Ile-Ife warriors attacked them back without fear again and defeated them. Oranmiyan was among the warriors.

That is why Ife people celebrate Moremi so much with Oranmiyan too.

This very history was told by a Yoruba historian to my own hearing at Oba Sijuade palace in Ile Ife.



So federal government should leave the shalaye and leave the writers telling their own version of what they heard like me, e no concern Igbos.



A core Yoruba should respond and deny this history I just told now

franchasofficia:
There is some truth in the book as told by Ooni Palace during the reign of Oba Sijuade and retold even by Moremi Secondary school if you know ile ife.


The Yoruba historian back then told us that Moremi saved Ile-Ife from Igbo people invasion, how?

They said some strangers always invaded Ile-Ife dressed in a masquerade outfit made with dried grass.


The Yoruba historians said these strangers kept attacking Ife people and kept winning them and making away with their belongings until Moremi, a very beautiful Ile-Ife daughter with a sparkling light skin complexion volunteered to help her people unmask the invaders by making herself available at the place the invaders usually attacked, and when they saw her, they carried her along with other Ile-Ife indigenes they always go along with, and when they got to their place, their king saw Moremi and liked her because of her extreme beauty and married her.


From there, Moremi was taken to the Igbo invaders King palace where Moremi then discovered that those invaders were not spirits like Ile-Ife people believed but were ordinary humans dressed in masquerade costume.


It took Moremi some years to study this and as soon as she got the secret, she escaped back to Ile-Ife and leaked the secret to Ile-Ife kingdom and they prepared and waited for the Igbo invaders and when they attacked, Ile-Ife warriors attacked them back without fear again and defeated them. Oranmiyan was among the warriors.

That is why Ife people celebrate Moremi so much with Oranmiyan too.

This very history was told by a Yoruba historian to my own hearing at Oba Sijuade palace in Ile Ife.



So federal government should leave the shalaye and leave the writers telling their own version of what they heard like me, e no concern Igbos.



A core Yoruba should respond and deny this history I just told now

Igbo means bush or forest in Yoruba. That’s why some Yoruba groups have Igbo in their name signifying they are forest dwellers. More I encountered the Ugbo people in current day Ondo.

Goodvibes007:
The Jews have made a press conference to debunk them too.

good one from Israel people. They know them well. This pride is what is destroying them seriously 😒

This is how "historical texts" are born. In the next 150 years, another author will build on this as history, or sight this as the historical text upon which his/her work is based.

A Senator recently proposed a bill on indeginous status being conferred on anybody who resideds in a location for 10 years at least.
If these two go on for a century, i bet new history will actually be formed

Enugurangers:
The ooni was talking about the Ugbo people in present day Ondo. Vanguard published it as Igbo even though they know it's Ugbo.
Vanguard has been pushing tribal agenda these days.

Please I did not read it from the vanguard newspaper.
I heard it from the Oni of Ife, directly from his mouth, like from the horse's mouth.
Please do your personal findings and keep your mind clear so you learn one or two, nobody knows it all.

2mch:
Igbo means bush or forest in Yoruba. That’s why some Yoruba groups have Igbo in their name signifying they are forest dwellers. More I encountered the Ugbo people in current day Ondo.

Ugbo too means bush in Igbo dialect.


There seems to be some atom of truth in the books, it could be the Bush people which the writers attributed as Igbos and they are not wrong because you said there is Igbo that Ile Ife people did encountered and I listened to a Yoruba historian at Oba Sijuade palace in Ile Ife tell the story you quoted, not hearsay.



So tell your people attacking Igbos to borrow some brain, everything no be gragra, Tinubu's politics is definitely misleading Yorubas and it will not end well in future if you guys don't slow down.

jmoore:
Hypocrisy go make you dey babablu bulabu.
Did I say anything about anyone founding anything?

You go just jump into comment and be posting bla bla bla.

It is not about what you said or didn't say.
It is about the topic being discussed. The useless book published by an igbo claimed that Igbos founded Ile ife (the ancestral home of the yorubas).

That is the topic we are discussing.

As per what the ooni of ife said . He was just pressing you people's mumu button and giving you guys a false sense of belonging.

We don't belongs each other and we don't share anything in common.

We don't even share boundary sef .

Karlman:
Please I am not talking about Moremi, not at all.
Before today we're you ever aware the Igbos were once at ile Ife?
If you had not been aware kindly go and dig up and find out some of the events that played out in that era, and how they subsequently left Ife.
Please I am only interested in an academic engagement and not interested in tribal whatever.

who are you talking about? Cos it's only queen Moremi that made her to be kidnapped to save her people

All these nonsense tribe shit wey we go still die leave

Karlman:
Fact is Igbo ancestors were at Ife, yes, same Ile Ife, and I heard it first from the Oni of Ife. What I don't know is if they were the first to settle there, and that is where the government should dig up in earnest search for truth and fact.

And as for those of you jumping up and down over what you know next to nothing about, the present Igbo is not planning to come back to Ife for any reason, in fact it was the Oni himself that was asking Igbos not to forget they moved from Ife.

Let the government set up a committee of enquiry to look into history.

Igbos have been in Ife which the Oni himself spoke about severally that Igbos were once at Ife, and same as benin.

I heard Oni of Ife in a video telling Igbo people that they moved from Ife in the olden days.
Government should do a finding rather than dismiss the book entirely just to be politically right.

Going through comments on this threads showed how obviously there little number of learned people on nairaland. No brainstorming, no academic exchange, just blind and ignorant arguments from people who know next to nothing about the topic.

FYI Igbo ancestors were at Ile Ife, go and dig up. The question here is, we're they the first.

Late Ooni of Ife Oba Sijuade also told same story before my eyes.


Tinubu's brand of ethnocentric politics is destroying the previously good nature of Yorubas and they don't know. To them, everything today is a tribal battle or supremacy battle with the Igbos.


Any Yoruba that doesn't believe this should go back and read the history and story of Moremi and why she is highly celebrated in Ile Ife till date.


Instead of them to go back to history and ask questions from the custodians of Yoruba culture like the Ooni of Ife, they prefer to be cursing Igbos and throwing tantrums around, na them sabi my brother

Was shocked to know they are teaching folks in the east that Tiv people give out there wives as entertainment to strangers! No wonder that story is more prominent amongst my Igbo folks!
History should never be distorted on the basis of tribal differences.

Armaggedon:
this was why they banned history. They didn't say the book was false, they said it's a threat to national unity

Nigeria has a long way to go.
Does ancestors of Igbos having been in Ife before leaving there to other places mean that the present day Igbos will want to go back to Ife for any reason?

What exactly is the hate for? It's such a shame.

If not that I heard it first from the Oni of Ife telling Igbos that their ancestors was in Ife and that the spirit of business and entrepreneurship had been with them from the olden days. I heard those words from his own mouth, telling igbos not to forget that their ancestors lived and left Ife.

The yorubas should tell us the truth, our dear country keep on abolishing history.,..

It doesn't need to be disowned, but just ignored because those people are delusional

franchasofficia:
Late Ooni of Ife Oba Sijuade also told same story before my eyes.


Tinubu's brand of ethnocentric politics is destroying the previously good nature of Yorubas and they don't know. To them, everything today is a tribal battle or supremacy battle with the Igbos.


Any Yoruba that doesn't believe this should go back and read the history and story of Moremi and why she is highly celebrated in Ile Ife till date.


Instead of them to go back to history and ask questions from the custodians of Yoruba culture like the Ooni of Ife, they prefer to be cursing Igbos and throwing tantrums around, na them sabi my brother

It is such a shame!
In fact, in that event the Oni mentioned that the Igbo had always been rich and gifted and successful in whatever they do, right from when their ancestors were still in ile Ife.

Ignorant people of nairaland are here shamelessly jumping up and down over a history they know nothing about.

Slytiger:
Kudos to the ministry of education for coming out to clarify the authenticity of the content of the books trying to distort history.

Below are the published books mentiened in tne report.

But they quoted the Ooni of Ife, Oba Ogunwusi Ojaja.

Goodvibes007:
You would be shocked at what people are propagating out there. Igbos have been steadily claiming Obatala for the last 2 years or so on Twitter

On social media, you will see Igbos claiming Ijebu Igbo and other some other Yoruba towns that have an igbo in it.

Igbo in Yoruba means forest or bush. The Ile Ife one is Ugbo people who are now in present day Ondo state under Oba Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan (Owner of OBAT petroleum).

Our Igbo brothers have also laid claim to Igodomigodo (present day Edo state).

They have also laid claim to America, Edo and some parts of India too.

But that book quoted the Ooni of Ife to support some of the claims naa.

BadEnglish:
It doesn't need to be disowned, but just ignored because those people are delusional

Identify the irony in your comment!