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drisham:
In all of this I blame, maresca , Jackson and our useless wingers

Imagine the disrespect

Anyone can isolate any arguments, leave out context and appear to be on to something.

Context is checking to see if Yamal will be as effective playing alongside Sancho, Neto, Madueke and Jackson, then a discussion can be had.

Palmer that was playing under a very poor Poch in his very first flight in the PL, and was literally Mr Chelsea.

nateevs:
Anyone can isolate any arguments, leave out context and appear to be on to something.

Context is checking to see if Yamal will be as effective playing alongside Sancho, Neto, Madueke and Jackson, then a discussion can be had.

Palmer that was playing under a very poor Poch in his very first flight in the PL, and was literally Mr Chelsea.

I'm with you. Every argument needs a better context. It's why Marecas and the board must make tough decisions with some of these players and push us further forward.

Palmer had his best season under Poch one of Chelsea's worst coaches. Under Maresca we achieved top 4, won a cup but Palmer wasn't as good as his previous season.

This is why Maresca and the board must get the players they feel will elevate Chelsea and give Palmer the platform to perform. From next season, there'll be no excuses for Maresca. It'll be his choice to continue with Sanchez in goal and Jackson as striker yep I feel Jackson will remain as starter and Delap as back up. If he feels both aren't good enough then he should let the board know. Pamer must win a major trophy here but he can't achieve that all by himself. He needs help.

Like Abramovich, this board is willing to splash the cash. There'll be no underdog, Neto, Madueke, Jackson, story. If they won't elevate the team, get rid and try to win with other purchases. No excuses from next season.

Tony Pulis made Gbabry sit on the bench for some unknowns we all know what Gnabry achieved so far but same can't be said for the ones he was benched for. KdB was benched for Oscar despite he been the better player. KdB has won it all in club football but Oscar is languishing in football wilderness.
Context and environment matters in players performance judgment

Who is watching Euro U-21 tournament? Quenda did well against France yesterday same as Forbs

nateevs:
Anyone can isolate any arguments, leave out context and appear to be on to something.

Context is checking to see if Yamal will be as effective playing alongside Sancho, Neto, Madueke and Jackson, then a discussion can be had.

Palmer that was playing under a very poor Poch in his very first flight in the PL, and was literally Mr Chelsea.

I agree with you 100%

i was just trying to point out some factors

fredoooooo:
We're not in the Title race ?, we're running our race .

They get some teams wey nothing concern with Europa talk about Conference league. This is not something to brag about

I see some London teams but I'm still searching for the Elephant on the tree

Android17:
It wasn't even a Palmer vs Lamine discussion in terms of talent. It was in terms of winning mentality. I was implying Palmer can and should be willing his team to win even without being the top scorer and I used the Conference league final to give an example of a moment where he did it.

I get the point. Palmer of last season was the X factor for Chelsea. Hr decided some games too like that Chl vs Man u 4 - 3 comeback, thrashing of Brighton earlier this season. But I guess it stopped as the season progressed.

airmark:


Why didn't Yamal decide the two matches against the same Betis in the league? Barcelona couldn't beat them home and away.

Barcelona won the league.

I pity you. Truly.

Gucciboy:
Android17 seems to know only grammar.

Lewandowski this season 39 goals 3 assists

Raphinha this season 33 goals 18 assists

Now yamal wouldn't have done nothing without lewandowski and Raphinha pumping goals to win games.

This is what Palmer lacks currently.

You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

drisham:
I respectfully disagree sir

There's a difference between lamine under xavi and under a competent Coach

He didn't decide games under xavi, he went to the euros under a competent coach and started deciding games. Bagging the most assist in the competition

Palmer should stay at city and waste away just like Oscar bobb right ( who you claimed have a higher ceiling because he scored a single goal)

Put palmer under a competent manager then we will have a conversation


This is someone that decided a final for your team by the way

There's a lot of moving parts to this but it seems you're only focused on one. Raphinha and Lewa played under Xavi before Lamine blossomed. What was their achievement? How does Raphinha perform without Lamine in his team?

If Lamine wasn't showing signs, the Spanish national team wouldn't have selected him. He was 16. Which player in history does the team depend on at 16?

You already think Palmer lacks a competent manager. But if you moved him to Barca and took Lamine to CFC, Barca will not have the same results.

Ask Palmer himself. His interview is online talking about Lamine.

Gucciboy:
Android17 seems to know only grammar.

Lewandowski this season 39 goals 3 assists

Raphinha this season 33 goals 18 assists

Now yamal wouldn't have done nothing without lewandowski and Raphinha pumping goals to win games.

This is what Palmer lacks currently.

You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse for barca

drisham:
So palmer has not decided multiple games before??

Alright sir this is the end of our conversation.

You're asking moot questions. I even gave an example of the Betis game he decided for CFC and asked why he didn't do it when CFC were 2nd. Remember it was under the same Maresca. What changed? Mentality.

By the way Oscar's ceiling is higher than Palmer's based on their time at the academy. I know CFC fans don't like to hear it but if he had that dog, he'd still be at City. Time will tell.

VicThory:
I get the point. Palmer of last season was the X factor for Chelsea. Hr decided some games too like that Chl vs Man u 4 - 3 comeback, thrashing of Brighton earlier this season. But I guess it stopped as the season progressed.

Exactly. And I warned even then that he has to keep showing that progression. It is not enough to be a big fish in a small pond. The best players make those around them better. That's how Lewa and co talk about Lamine. Players can tell you who makes the difference. People just prefer information that accommodates their feelings.

raumdeuter:
Android17, airbere, godx bluelines69, unlimited44

How do you rate these players for a left wing position

Barcola
Leao
Nico Williams
Mitoma
Gakpo

I am compiling all the players Bayern have been linked to

Base on Efficiency (goal scoring prowess)
Gakpo - Leao - Barcola - Nico - Mitoma

VicThory:
You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

I ignored that post because the person is arguing like air...head.

There's a difference between RVN and R9. Both could score 30 goals per season but the type of goals will differ. Those who can use their tongues to count their teeth will know what I mean.

Google who KdB played with in Wolfsburg. Then you'd have a better picture of what better players do with whoever is around them. Why do you think Bayern, City and Liverpool wanted Wirtz? It is because from Kolñ, to B04, he was making the difference. Not scoring the most goals but doing enough to make sure his teams crossed the line. That's what the supreme talents do. If you need to keep making excuses for a player that hasn't been decisive enough, you'd do so for the rest of his career. Just watch.

You'd change managers and keep making the same excuses.

Android17:
You're asking moot questions. I even gave an example of the Betis game he decided for CFC and asked why he didn't do it when CFC were 2nd. Remember it was under the same Maresca. What changed? Mentality.

By the way Oscar's ceiling is higher than Palmer's based on their time at the academy. I know CFC fans don't like to hear it but if he had that dog, he'd still be at City. Time will tell.

Oscar's ceiling higher than Palmer's? Which Oscar abeg? You type a lot of b##sh## and cover it up with grammar. Why not admit Losing palmer was painful and swallow the big L.

raumdeuter:
Android17, airbere, godx bluelines69, unlimited44

How do you rate these players for a left wing position

Barcola
Leao
Nico Williams
Mitoma
Gakpo

I am compiling all the players Bayern have been linked to

Barcola seems to lack in decision making and the Bayern attack needs goals, they need a COVId Gnabry type of winger, very direct …..and on that list I’ll pick Nico Williams’s then Cody Gakpo as that type of direct wingers. Either of these two would cook, I genuinely would like to see Gakpo in that team though

Ihebu4chelsea:
Oscar's ceiling higher than Palmer's? Which Oscar abeg? You type a lot of b##sh## and cover it up with grammar. Why not admit Losing palmer was painful and swallow the big L.

I don't know why you're emotional. Both of them played for City academy. Oscar was rated higher. No be personal opinion.

Android17:
I don't know why you're emotional. Both of them played for City academy. Oscar was rated higher. No be personal opinion.

Any evidence? Do you think Oscar can start for Chelsea currently?

Ihebu4chelsea:
Any evidence? Do you think Oscar can start for Chelsea currently?

No because currently Palmer is the better player. That's why I was referring to their ceilings. In other words, how high they could go. City academy believe(d) that Oscar has the potential to be the best player at City. Palmer was also rated very highly - just not like Oscar.

raumdeuter:
Android17, airbere, godx bluelines69, unlimited44

How do you rate these players for a left wing position

Barcola
Leao
Nico Williams
Mitoma
Gakpo

I am compiling all the players Bayern have been linked to

Depends on what the team needs. If the right winger is someone in the mould of Yamal, then I'd opt for:

1. Gakpo
2. Nico
3. Barcola
4. Mitoma
5. Leao

If I have an eye for the future then it's:
1. Barcola
2. Nico
3. Gakpo
4. Mitoma
5. Leao

Foden refused to play wing, refused to join the midfield, just wanting to play No10 that Pep is not interested in

Make Foden no just flop again this season because some niggass no fit take banter, and banter go plenty

VicThory:
They get[b] some teams[/b] wey nothing concern with Europa talk about Conference league. This is not something to brag about

I see some London teams but I'm still searching for the Elephant on the tree

Kindly list those teams abeg

Una dey try undermine Chelsea achievement

But when top teams like Liverpool, Barcelona arsenal and co dropped to the Europa league they failed to win it

Nick Woltmade with a hattrick for Germany u21 Euro's opener against Slovenia..... Same day he was linked with Chelsea..


What do you think?

VicThory:
You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

You are using 'also' for the La Liga player of the season.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Oscar's ceiling higher than Palmer's? Which Oscar abeg? You type a lot of b##sh## and cover it up with grammar. Why not admit Losing palmer was painful and swallow the big L.

Ever sinxe Palmer left City, blud has been anti Palmer. Nobody told Foden to do 007

Ibime:
Foden refused to play wing, refused to join the midfield, just wanting to play No10 that Pep is not interested in

Make Foden no just flop again this season because some niggass no fit take banter, and banter go plenty

We full ground.. Dem say Foden will be the undisputed RW next season, let's watch out

Somebody here still believe Cole Palmer should be the difference maker for 38 games a season in the midst of average players with no strikers.

While ignoring the fact that Barca have yamal, Raphinha and lewandowski. That's THREE

But but only cole Palmer should do it at Chelsea

Some people can be dense without knowing it.

Android17:
Barcelona won the league.

I pity you. Truly.

The player that destroyed Betis in a final, lacks winning mentality but the player that couldn't get 3 points over 2 legs against the same Betis, has it.

This dull brain 'cost you an arm', remember?

VicThory:
You do know most of Yamal goals are solo. That's why I think Android is saying or he breaks defense needed for the others to flourish. But Raphinha also was a dark horse

I hope Barca parade a striker that misses chances like it's nothing then you would know that yamal in all his creativity would be useless, unproductive and ineffective.

That's story between Palmer and Jackson.

airmark:
You are using 'also' for the La Liga player of the season.

Raphinha scored 18 laliga goals while Madueke,neto and sancho couldn't score 12 goals combined.

barca fans are truly ingrates