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honesttalk21:
It's how limiting you put your thoughts and deliberate feigning of misunderstanding .

Consider the fact that the idea of God takes on many forms across various belief systems, showcasing a wide range of theological interpretations.

For instance, in Mormonism, God is seen as having once been a man who achieved divinity and is now married to a heavenly partner, offering a distinct perspective on divine heritage.

Jehovah's Witnesses take a different route altogether, regarding Jesus not as God but as the archangel Michael, which stands in stark contrast to traditional Christian beliefs.

In both Islamic and Arabic-speaking Christian communities, God is referred to as Allah. Yet, despite this shared term, their interpretations differ significantly in nature and characteristics, highlighting a rich and intricate tapestry of beliefs that coexist while also fundamentally differing, illustrating the vibrant diversity of faith across cultures.

Perhaps with this you can comprehend how 'God' is used to refer to different deities across different belief system.

In Islam Allah is exclusively for the unique, all powerful, all creating, all sustaining

Allah of Arabic Christians has a son different from your own allah that was inside kaaba. Don't create another problem for yourself!

In Quran, your allah said There is no God but Allah, did you know Quran more than the authors of your book, How is your allah God when there is no God but him?

The plural word for God is gods which involves many deities against what you said that god involves various deities!

RightChanneI:
Allah of Arabic Christians has a son different from your own allah that was inside kaaba. Don't create another problem for yourself!

In Quran, your allah said There is no God but Allah, did you know Quran more than the authors of your book, How is your allah God when there is no God but him?

The plural word for God is gods which involves many deities against what you said that god involves various deities!

God is the common name used in English language for a deity in different religions isn't it?

How the religions define and characterise God is clearly different.

Allah is and has never been in the kaaba.
The kaaba is symbolic of Allah 's presence not where he resides.

Do you understand what you have as an English translation that there is no God but Allah? You should.

It is categorically stating that all misconceptions about what God should be are not that and Allah alone is worthy of worship. You all make assumptions, categorization and give names of your choice to what isn't God and wrongly worship.

They are nothing but names you have named (you and your forefathers) for which Allah has sent down no authority.

They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance.
Surah An-Najm:23)

Expanse2020:
Why are you stressing yourself with this Kaffir...
Someone who doesn't know difference between God, god, man, son of man...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Antiislam de cry bitter thinking ileya no go sweet but to surprise them most people kill cow... Meat come surplus
I still preserved the bile of my ram for you when you ready come have it

Another kofesor of English is here

Sufu, oya what's the difference between God and god?

Your brother said god involves VARIOUS DEITIES, is he right or wrong?

Answer that two questions before I continue with you

honesttalk21:
It's how limiting you put your thoughts and deliberate feigning of misunderstanding .

Consider the fact that the idea of God takes on many forms across various belief systems, showcasing a wide range of theological interpretations.

For instance, in Mormonism, God is seen as having once been a man who achieved divinity and is now married to a heavenly partner, offering a distinct perspective on divine heritage.

Jehovah's Witnesses take a different route altogether, regarding Jesus not as God but as the archangel Michael, which stands in stark contrast to traditional Christian beliefs.

In both Islamic and Arabic-speaking Christian communities, God is referred to as Allah. Yet, despite this shared term, their interpretations differ significantly in nature and characteristics, highlighting a rich and intricate tapestry of beliefs that coexist while also fundamentally differing, illustrating the vibrant diversity of faith across cultures.

Perhaps with thiinvolves various deities n comprehend how 'God' is used to refer to different deities across different belief system.

In Islam Allah is exclusively for the unique, all powerful, all creating, all sustaining

Kofesor sir, you're doing well. Sebi god involves various deities

honesttalk21:
A rip off that is beyond your ability to comprehend so you rather criticise what you refuse to understand?

You more likely don't understand the narration you hold on to. Why did Moses not worship the fire as God? His faith was not yet well developed and remained so till his death as it isn't written anywhere that he started worshipping God in the fire or sought to find God in the fire.

Despite God's numerous ways of engagement with humanity that reveals His incredible ability to show up in ways that truly resonate with our experiences like the incidence of the fire, there is clear distinction between the Creator and His creation.

Then regarding your last comment, as the final prophet sent to mankind rebuttal and correction of all wrong practices of earlier generation was passed down through the Quran.

What you wrote up there, doesn't make sense🤦🏾‍♂️! You didn't address the point but created a make-believe argument to address🙃. If Allah was indeed in the fire then your God can dwell within things😁—there goes your pathetic claims of Allah being unable to dwell within his creation 🤦🏾‍♂️!

No fool worships fire as God👻, your snide remark is surely misplaced. If Allah wanted worship from Moses while still within the fire then Moses will have submitted himself 👀 hence that's a useless counter to bring up!

"clear distinction" 🤔 where are you drawing all these strawmen from 😅? I am really surprised by your adeptness at drawing straws. You are surely in the wrong industry, you should put your talent to good use😂. I didn't even mention distinction but since you brought it up, Let me chime one or two about it.

When Moses saw the fire; what was the distinction between the fire and Allah within it —or perhaps he saw Allah within the fire🤔? As far as the narration goes he saw the fire with Allah within the fire speaking to him. This circumstance contradicts your Islamic narratives 🤧. Also no one disproves or argues that God is not distinct from his creation. All in all, my dear you are chasing wild geese😂—It's so funny.

Indeed, without lies, Islam dies!

Gabrielshow24:
What you wrote up there, doesn't make sense🤦🏾‍♂️! You didn't address the point but created a make-believe argument to address🙃. If Allah was indeed in the fire then your God can dwell within things😁—there goes your pathetic claims of Allah being unable to dwell within his creation 🤦🏾‍♂️!

No fool worships fire as God👻, your snide remark is surely misplaced. If Allah wanted worship from Moses while still within the fire then Moses will have submitted himself 👀 hence that's a useless counter to bring up!

"clear distinction" 🤔 where are you drawing all these strawmen from 😅? I am really surprised by your adeptness at drawing straws. You are surely in the wrong industry, you should put your talent to good use😂. I didn't even mention distinction but since you brought it up, Let me chime one or two about it.

When Moses saw the fire; what was the distinction between the fire and Allah within it —or perhaps he saw Allah within the fire🤔? As far as the narration goes he saw the fire with Allah within the fire speaking to him. This circumstance contradicts your Islamic narratives 🤧. Also no one disproves or argues that God is not distinct from his creation. All in all, my dear you are chasing wild geese😂—It's so funny.

Indeed, without lies, Islam dies!

You like to put up a show regardless isn't it?

Simple question if God was in the fire why didn't Moses worship God in the fire?

The authors of the Bible couldn't write that in or you can share where that is written to rest your fact that your God dwells in a fire.

AntiisIam1:
Kofesor sir, you're doing well. Sebi god involves various deities

Mr wise. Does your religion have a deity different from that of Hindu, Mazdakism etc.?

You agree that these are different from one another and collectively they will be called deities or gods/Gods.

Islam upholds only Allah as the only true deity worthy of worship. All others are what your mind tells you and solely your imagination.

honesttalk21:
Mr wise. Does your religion have a deity different from that of Hindu, Mazdakism etc.?

You agree that these are different from one another and collectively they will be called deities or gods/Gods.

Islam upholds only Allah as the only true deity worthy of worship. All others are what your mind tells you and solely your imagination.

So according to your own dictionary made in Saudi Arabia, god means many deities?

Just answer YES or NO.. I no want super story

honesttalk21:
God is the common name used in English language for a deity in different religions isn't it?

How the religions define and characterise God is clearly different.

God is for a deity as you slated now! why did you said god means various deities early before?

honesttalk21:
Allah is and has never been in the kaaba.
The kaaba is symbolic of Allah 's presence not where he resides.

If allah never been in the kaaba, why praying facing the direction of kaaba, why bowing, worshiping, kissing and circumbulating the stone of kaaba unclothed?

honesttalk21:
Do you understand what you have as an English translation that there is no God but Allah? You should.

It is categorically stating that all misconceptions about what God should be are not that and Allah alone is worthy of worship. You all make assumptions, categorization and give names of your choice to what isn't God and wrongly worship.

Quran said There is no God but Allah, if this same Allah in Arabic is God in English, why not put it this way; There is no Allah but Allah?

honesttalk21:
They are nothing but names you have named (you and your forefathers) for which Allah has sent down no authority.

They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance.
Surah An-Najm:23)

Quran said they are daughters of allah.

Arabic Allah in which Arabic Christians are worshipping has a son which is Jesus, did your Quran allah has a son, are you serving the same allah with Arabic Christians Allah?

honesttalk21:
You like to put up a show regardless isn't it?

Simple question if God was in the fire why didn't Moses worship God in the fire?

The authors of the Bible couldn't write that in or you can share where that is written to rest your fact that your God dwells in a fire.

You should turn this question towards yourself 🤔. Why do you people circumambulate and worship the Kaaba? You even kiss the black stone😂—Paganism rebranded in monotheism! If you can answer this simple question then you have destroyed your shabby pointless counter🤤!

Gabrielshow24:
You should turn this question towards yourself 🤔. Why do you people circumambulate and worship the Kaaba? You even kiss the black stone😂—Paganism rebranded in monotheism! If you can answer this simple question then you have destroyed your shabby pointless counter🤤!

Original question answered. Allah in Islam is quite distinct from YHVH in Christianity.

RightChanneI:
God is for a deity as you slated now! why did you said god means various deities early before?

Various deities in different religions are called God

honesttalk21:
Gen 4:26 as most parts of Genesis is said to be written by Moses and the event in Gen 4:26 happened fairly well before Moses was.

I don't succumb to Allah being same as YHVH as this will limit the uniqueness of Allah.



Allah simply means the one and only God..

Allah is the unique, eternal, and all-powerful being who created and oversees everything

so your answer is no Allah is not YHVH, and your explanation is because that would be you succumbing and limiting Allah, basically put you are also claiming that Allah is greater than YHVH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that Israel say they worship according to the bible.

gohf:
so your answer is no Allah is not YHVH, and your explanation is because that would be you succumbing and limiting Allah, basically put you are also claiming that Allah is greater than YHVH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that Israel say they worship according to the bible.

Despite the similarity and commonity in being the God of Abraham there are significant differences in how Jews and Christians see YHVH and how Muslims see Allah

honesttalk21:
Various deities in different religions are called God

😂

Is allah god or God?

And what is the plural of god?

RightChanneI:
😂

Is allah god or God?

And what is the plural of god?

Keep laughing hopefully it will be for all time but know what is laughable

honesttalk21:
Keep laughing hopefully it will be for all time but know what is laughable

You said in quote: "the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions".

The question now is your supreme deity in Islam, allah is he god or God?

RightChanneI:
You said in quote: "the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions".

The question now is your supreme deity in Islam, allah is he god or God?

Allah is the only God without limitations associated with that word

honesttalk21:
Allah is the only God without limitations associated with that word

Are you now contradicting yourself like allah in Quran?


You said in quote: "the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions".

What you are saying now is that allah is not god but God right?

RightChanneI:
Are you now contradicting yourself like allah in Quran?


You said in quote: "the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions".

What you are saying now is that allah is not god but God right?

When the adverb broadly is used it refers to the general way, without considering specific examples or all the details as used in the different religions.

honesttalk21:
When the adverb broadly is used it refers to the general way, without considering specific examples or all the details as used in the different religions.

See how you're dodging question like Mallam Yusuf Adepeju or whatever

Quran says There is no God but Allah, is Allah the same God here?

The response should be YES or NO, I don't want tales by Moonlight on NTA

RightChanneI:
See how you're dodging question like Mallam Yusuf Adepeju or whatever

Quran says There is no God but Allah, is Allah the same God here?

The response should be YES or NO, I don't want tales by Moonlight on NTA

Check your English dictionary for the meanings of the word broadly.

You are considering a translation of the Arabic which clearly says all impressions of other things as worthy of worship are false for Allah alone is worthy of worship.

I have clarified in this thread that ilah is different from Allah

honesttalk21:
Check your English dictionary for the meanings of the word broadly.

You are considering a translation of the Arabic which clearly says all impressions of other things as worthy of worship are false for Allah alone is worthy of worship.

I have clarified in this thread that ilah is different from Allah

You see now, anothee dodging. I will put the question in another way!



Quran says There is no God but Allah


Who is that God mentioned in Quran 59:23?

RightChanneI:
You see now, anothee dodging. I will put the question in another way!



Quran says There is no God but Allah


Who is that God mentioned in Quran 59:23?

Do you now say you have run out of literary and linguistic prowess?

You can not understand the translation?

He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him.

RightChanneI:
See how you're dodging question like Mallam Yusuf Adepeju or whatever

Quran says There is no God but Allah, is Allah the same God here?

The response should be YES or NO, I don't want tales by Moonlight on NTA

You actually should clear with the nairaland platform now. Short answers do not meet the requirement for acceptable posts.

Also you cannot define how your question is answered without adequately explaining the terms you use.

In your understanding define or explain God and Allah then I can amswer this

honesttalk21:
Do you now say you have run out of literary and linguistic prowess?

You can not understand the translation?

He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him.

We shall soon get there!

Did you remember this your statement?

"the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions."

Which means, allah is god (deity) of Islam going by what you said in qoute.

From what you just said above which I pasted below:
He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity,

What you are saying now is that

He is Allah, other than whom there is no Allah (deity)

Does that make sense to you?

If allah is your deity in Islam, would allah still kicked against another allah going by what you've been saying so far?

If I want to finish you, I would ask for the tafsir of that verse for you to see how uneducated you are towards your own belief of Islam and Quran!

You are not different from your mallam Mutiu Adepoju iropoju that's now trending on Facebook for his lies in which the likes of Evangelist Noah Ezekiel and others are exposing on daily basis!

RightChanneI:
We shall soon get there!

Did you remember this your statement?

"the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions."

Which means, allah is god (deity) of Islam going by what you said in qoute.

From what you just said above which I pasted below:
He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity,

What you are saying now is that

He is Allah, other than whom there is no Allah (deity)

Does that make sense to you?

If allah is your deity in Islam, would allah still kicked against another allah going by what you've been saying so far?

If I want to finish you, I would ask for the tafsir of that verse for you to see how uneducated you are towards your own belief of Islam and Quran!

You are not different from your mallam Mutiu Adepoju iropoju that's now trending on Facebook for his lies in which the likes of Evangelist Noah Ezekiel and others are exposing on daily basis!

Artful dodger referenced a verse and I wrote it out.

You really want us to believe you don't know this is Quran 59:23?

honesttalk21:
You actually should clear with the nairaland platform now. Short answers do not meet the requirement for acceptable posts.

Also you cannot define how your question is answered without adequately explaining the terms you use.

In your understanding define or explain God and Allah then I can amswer this

The question is There is no God but Allah, is Allah the same God here?

I gave you option: YES or NO but you're afraid to say YES

If allah (Arabic) is God in English, how would this same allah kicked against himself in this statement, There is no God but Allah..

honesttalk21:
Artful dodger referenced a verse and I wrote it out.

You really want us to believe you don't know this is Quran 59:23?

No it is not Quran 59:23 but Sahih Bukhari 1965 vs 3. So this is what your brain could grabbed from all I said here below right?

RightChanneI:
We shall soon get there!

Did you remember this your statement?

"the word "god" often serves as a broad term that includes various deities from different religions."

Which means, allah is god (deity) of Islam going by what you said in qoute.

From what you just said above which I pasted below:
He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity,

What you are saying now is that

He is Allah, other than whom there is no Allah (deity)

Does that make sense to you?

If allah is your deity in Islam, would allah still kicked against another allah going by what you've been saying so far?

If I want to finish you, I would ask for the tafsir of that verse for you to see how uneducated you are towards your own belief of Islam and Quran!

You are not different from your mallam Mutiu Adepoju iropoju that's now trending on Facebook for his lies in which the likes of Evangelist Noah Ezekiel and others are exposing on daily basis!

[quote author=honesttalk21 post=135718951]Mr wise. Does your religion have a deity different from that of Hindu, Mazdakism etc.?

You agree that these are different from one another and collectively they will be called deities or gods/Gods.

Islam upholds only Allah as the only true deity worthy of worship. All others are what your mind tells you and solely your imagination. [/q