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lexy2014:
if pastors can pray for people to get visa, why can they not just pray for nigeria to function well so that people can have a good life and stop being desperate for visa?

Why do people ignore their conscience and vote the wrong leaders all the time, along the sentiment lines? Why are people deliberately choosing evil over good, even when they know his evil past? Is that God's fault?

Eriokanmi:
Why do people ignore their conscience and vote the wrong leaders all the time, along the sentiment lines? Why are people deliberately choosing evil over good, even when they know his evil past? Is that God's fault?

that is not what I asked you:

if pastors can pray for people to get visa, why can they not just pray for nigeria to function well so that people can have a good life and stop being desperate for visa?

press9jatv:
she alone can't pray Nigeria should be better now. He needs thousands of her colleagues to do that.

according to which scripture in the bible?

how then is she powerful enough to pray for a person's passport for visa and then the person will get visa?

I thought u said she is powerful?

press9jatv:
Wow the prophetess dey powerful ooo.

if she is so powerful, why cant she use her power to pray that nigeria becomes a better place so that her member does not need to start running around looking for visa?

SmartPolician:
There's nothing wrong with this. If a real man of God does it for you, nobody can deny you a visa.

The truth is that humans know that ideas come to them, but they don't know what initiates or inspires such ideas.

If God wants a visa officer to approve your visa, He will give him 1001 reasons why he should, even when the applicant may not be qualified.

even wen you fail interview, Fail medicals/drug test,and wen you passport the don blacklist am from travelling?

with proper documents plus funding you no need all these pastors or whatever to get Visa approval...
gone are those days wen them de pass Morocco de enter Spain
Na Money, proper documentation,you don travel to anywhere

press9jatv:
Moment a prophetess was blessing one of her church members passport with Divine stamp in order to be granted overseas visa🧎🏻‍♂️‍➡️


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqgiNTuwbr8?

if you look closely, this is mental case

lexy2014:
that is not what I asked you:

if pastors can pray for people to get visa, why can they not just pray for nigeria to function well so that people can have a good life and stop being desperate for visa?

I've responded to you already. Since you didn't get my point, let me expatiate...

When Nigerians are ready for a functional country, they'd do the right thing by voting a good leader. Prayers aren't needed. Its us who need to change. God cannot answer when you deliberately chose bad over good. If you like pray till eternity as pastors or church members, nothing will work. God isnt man. His laws are clear. .Nigeria won't be the first to experience hardship. Ghana did as a result of bad leaders, and their nationals flooded Nigeria. Benin republic did and they sent their children to Nigeria for maiden job to survive.
Any Ghanaian you see around today has a more credible job he's doing. Cotonou maids have all returned. Cfa that used to be a worthless currency has left Nigeria far behind. I used to exchange 1000 naira for 10k cfa but today, cfa is much more valuable than naira. What's the cause....the consequences of choosing a bad leader out of sentiments. No amount of prayers would change that.

In africa, Nigeria has the highest number of professionals who had fled the country why? You can tell. These are those who should have developed nigeria. What of multinationals who used to pay heavy taxes to the govt but had left for other african nations? No amount of prayers would bring any investors. Once we have a good leader, they'd come uninvited. Ethiopia has received one of the major multinationals who had left Nigeria. They're also a populous nation. They didn't pray for them to come from Nigeria.

The moment Ghana chose a good leader, all of them returned home. Before, from porto novo down to cotonou, gendams were at every bus stop collecting bribe. Kerekou came and changed everything. The man that succeeded him continued and all the nonsense stopped...leadership says it all.

Eriokanmi:
I've responded to you already. Since you didn't get my point, let me expatiate...

When Nigerians are ready for a functional country, they'd do the right thing by voting a good leader. Prayers aren't needed. Its us who need to change. God cannot answer when you deliberately chose bad over good. If you like pray till eternity.Nigeria won't be the first to experience hardship. Ghana did, and their people flooded Nigeria. Benin republic did and they sent their children to Nigeria for maiden job. Today, they've all returned. Any Ghanaian you see around has a more credible job he's doing. Cotonou maids have all returned. Cfa that used to be a worthless currency has left Nigeria far behind. I used to exchange 1000 naira for 10k cfa but today, cfa is much more valuable than naira. What's the cause....the consequences of choosing a bad leader out of sentiments.

In africa, Nigeria has the highest number of professionals who had fled the country why? You can tell. These are those who should have developed nigeria. What of multinationals who used to psy heavy taxes to the govt but had left for other african nations? No amount of prayers would bring any investors. Once we have a hold leader, they'd come uninvited. Ethiopia has received 2 major multinationals who had left Nigeria. They're also a populous nation. They didn't pray for them to come from Nigeria.

The moment Ghana chose a good leader, all of them returned home. Before, from porto novo down to cotonou, gendams were at every bus stop collecting bribe. Kerekou came and changed everything. The man that succeeded him continued and all the nonsense stopped...leadership says it all.

if you say prayers are not needed to change a country for the better, how then does a person need a prophetess to pray before he or she can get visa?

lexy2014:
if you say prayers are not needed to change a country for the better, how then does a person need a prophetess to pray before he or she can get visa?

Seems you're just pulling my legs. Do you need a prophet/ess to free yourself from the devil? No! When you stop committing sin, the devil won't near you. Everything begins with you. If you vote an evil or wicked leader into political positions, either out of sentiments or after collecting money, no amount of prayers from the holiest prophet/ess will make things work for the nation.God isn't like you and I. God has given us the right to choose. If we chose wrongly, we'd receive the consequences. If we stop collecting money from them, or we stop voting based on...he's from my tribe or family, Nigeria will function. I read earlier today where Dapo Abiodin was being berated for poor infrastructure in Ogun. Did the people not see that before they voted him? Let's assume they made a mistake in his first term, what happened in his 2nd term? Same is happening at the federal level. Tinubu who committed a drug-related offence in which he forfeited so much money, someone with highly controversial past said you should vote him and you did, out of sentiments, which prayers can change him? We'd continue to bear the consequences until we do the right thing.

Whereas, there's Seyi Makinde in Oyo who's doing wonders. Oyo people didn't pray but did the right thing. They deliberately chose makinde. Are they not enjoying him today? Yesterday it was about Abia state. The former governor they voted in was only distributing kerosene and eating up their money. They stopped voting pdp and voted Otti. See how happy their people are. Did they need prayers to change Abia's situation? No! People shunned the pdp's inducement while some collected the money and still voted Otti instead.

If we can do the same at the federal level, everything will fall in place without prayers. Most of those in the helms are in cult. Many of them feed on human parts and use same for rituals. How do you expect God to intervene after you've deliberately put them there? It's you, who should use your hand and conscience to male things right and you'd see God at work. Praying for them, the nation under their administration or their government is praying amiss. You can't change the devil cos he's God's enemy. Enough said.

SmartPolician:
There's nothing wrong with this. If a real man of God does it for you, nobody can deny you a visa.

The truth is that humans know that ideas come to them, but they don't know what initiates or inspires such ideas.

If God wants a visa officer to approve your visa, He will give him 1001 reasons why he should, even when the applicant may not be qualified.

Even your man of God was denied entry into US.

Leave God out of these scam

SmartPolician:
Those politicians have their selfish interests. No amount of advice can change them and it makes no sense for men of God to pray that God should destroy the leaders. They are there to save souls, not destroy them.

So God can answer the prayers of people who politicians made their lives a living hell that they are selling everything to leave Nigeria.

But the same God who use prophet pastor and even little girl in your Bible changed the minds of tyrant like Pharaohs cannot change the minds of Nigeria politicians.

It's either all the G.o are now charlatan money hungry or the prayers are no more effective.

Eriokanmi:
Seems you're just pulling my legs. Do you need a prophet/ess to free yourself from the devil? No! When you stop committing sin, the devil won't near you. Everything begins with you. If you vote an evil or wicked leader into political positions, either out of sentiments or after collecting money, no amount of prayers from the holiest prophet/ess will make things work for the nation.God isn't like you and I. God has given us the right to choose. If we chose wrongly, we'd receive the consequences. If we stop collecting money from them, or we stop voting based on...he's from my tribe or family, Nigeria will function. I read earlier today where Dapo Abiodin was being berated for poor infrastructure in Ogun. Did the people not see that before they voted him? Let's assume they made a mistake in his first term, what happened in his 2nd term? Same is happening at the federal level. Tinubu who committed a drug-related offence in which he forfeited so much money, someone with highly controversial past said you should vote him and you did, out of sentiments, which prayers can change him? We'd continue to bear the consequences until we do the right thing.

Whereas, there's Seyi Makinde in Oyo who's doing wonders. Oyo people didn't pray but did the right thing. They deliberately chose makinde. Are they not enjoying him today? Yesterday it was about Abia state. The former governor they voted in was only distributing kerosene and eating up their money. They stopped voting pdp and voted Otti. See how happy their people are. Did they need prayers to change Abia's situation? No! People shunned the pdp's inducement while some collected the money and still voted Otti instead.

If we can do the same at the federal level, everything will fall in place without prayers. Most of those in the helms are in cult. Many of them feed on human parts and use same for rituals. How do you expect God to intervene after you've deliberately put them there? It's you, who should use your hand and conscience to male things right and you'd see God at work. Praying for them, the nation under their administration or their government is praying amiss. You can't change the devil cos he's God's enemy. Enough said.

offpoint. verbosity does not mean substance.

if you say prayers are not needed to change a country for the better, how then does a person need a prophetess to pray before he or she can get visa?

Samantha125:
I think he said South America and not South Africa.

Am referring to South Africans praying for visas , They dnt pray on running away to be parasites in other countries

Okay, ke go kwele ngwaneso... Have a good day.

KLEINBASS:
Am referring to South Africans praying for visas , They dnt pray on running away to be parasites in other countries

Bittersweetnig:
if you look closely, this is mental case

it's real. Both the prophet and the prophetess been given the job to this things now.