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TB JOSHUA PROPHESIED ABOUT YOUTH BEING THE MOUTHPIECE OF NIGERIANS. I will never forget that

Agbegbaorogboye:
You guys need to stop making anything and everything about you
Are you saying Fulanis are helping you to take revenge or what exactly

I noticed the trend on many threads, these guys have a deep hatred for other tribes and yet say it's not true! They're vengeful and always gripping!
A very unfortunate combo!

Karlman:
Yen yen yen, cho cho cho!
Be capping capping shit!
How many books have you read about Biafra that was written by those who actually took part or contributed to the war?

If the war was on level playing ground, in fact, if Biafrans had as much help as quarter of what Nigeria had, I am certain you and your lot would have been wiped off, if that was the aim of Biafra.

Stop yapping and capping about matters above your brain.

Igbos fought against the rest of Nigeria and killed more combatants than Nigeria did even with all the help of UK and Egyptian pilots. The only people killed by Nigeria are the Children they killed with blockade.

It shows just how silly and stupid your leaders were to start a war that they can't win. You're here giving an infantile submission, whining and crying about leveling playing grounds in a war? It's a fool that will lay hands on a project without counting the costs. And you can lie all you want, if that's going to give you a sound sleep. Name the source of your information concerning the casualty figures on both sides and shame the father of lies. If you can't, then it is as I have aptly described your comments as, mere beer parlor gists.

You people and always making the narratives all about you. No wonder your use of English is bad. "Did people of Benue state TOOK ..... "?

Karlman:
Did people of benue state took part in murdering fleeing igbo civilians during the biafra war or not?

Are we gonna shy away from the truth?

I don't know how the dastardly act in Benue state relates to Igbos and the sad period of civil war in Nigeria. It is so sad that some bigots with no human feelings are foolishly relating this to karma. All the same, no one is surprised because that is how the Igbos are. Always playing the victims card and making everything all about them. A shame.
It is so sad that we have a failed system already across all levels in this country. Quite a shame for a country that could have been the envy of all and truly the giant of Africa. There was a nation.
To the people of Benue, may God comfort you all.

kettykin:
The APC-led government has not deemed it fit to even send a government cleaner to represent them in this town that is needing healing

My question is, does Benue State have a governor? If State of Emergency could be declared in Rivers State where nothing of such happened, why has the President not declared State of Emergency in Benue State? The other governor Samuel Ortom at least used to cry out under Buhari. Why can't President Tinubu not declare state of emergency in Benue? There is no government in Benue. And why is it so hard to arrest these guys? But if someone makes a comment demanding good governance online, DSS, NPF, Nigerian Army Directorate of Military intelligence, NSA, all of them would crawl out from their wherever and start arresting innocent citizens.

Is the government saying that DSS does not know the perpetrators of this crime? If they don't know, why then should they be receiving salaries? What can of lawless country is this? If 5 people should die in America today, heads would roll. But here, even the media is complicit. Why are the mainstream media no more reporting the ills in governance? I dont want to deny that they have been bought. This country stinks.

If Government could ban IPOB that was crying for self-determination, a right under UN Charter, why can't the government declare as illegal certain groups that value cow more than human lives? Such a shame. Shame to the governor. Shame to the mainstream media. Thank you VDM.

Fahd11:
You people and always making the narratives all about you. No wonder your use of English is bad. "Did people of Benue state TOOK ..... "?

Cry yourself to blindness I don't care.

The fact remains that they TOOK part in killing fleeing innocent Igbo civilians, including pregnant women. They did TOOK part in that henious crime. So it's not a question of if they did, it is a fact that they did.

kettykin:
No issues, go and stop the killings then . We wholly offer our sympathies and empathize with them

About 40 innocent people murdered in cold blood in Abia state supposedly by Fulani bandits dropped from a helicopter.

You are an active member of nairalander with a significant online presence using other platforms.
Sometimes your posts make all of us Igbos look silly.
What and Karlman said about Benue people and the misfortune that befell them were distasteful.

Fulanis have attacked Nimbo, Eha Amaifu, some other parts of Nsukka, Nkanu, Agbani etc. Folks from Niger Delta could say same nonsense that you guys posted.
Pls show some respect when you accuse or write about other people especially the dead.
Fulani problem is a national problem being orchestrated by politicians and I believe individuals in the armed forces. They should be exposed and dealt with but not by disrespecting other ethnic groups and bragging that ‘this is not 1967’.

KosiGee:
About 40 innocent people murdered in cold blood in Abia state supposedly by Fulani bandits dropped from a helicopter.

You are an active member of nairalander with a significant online presence using other platforms.
Sometimes your posts make all of us Igbos look silly.
What and Karlman said about Benue people and the misfortune that befell them were distasteful.

Fulanis have attacked Nimbo, Eha Amaifu, some other parts of Nsukka, Nkanu, Agbani etc. Folks from Niger Delta could say same nonsense that you guys posted.
Pls show some respect when you accuse or write about other people especially the dead.
Fulani problem is a national problem being orchestrated by politicians and I believe individuals in the armed forces. They should be exposed and dealt with but not by disrespecting other ethnic groups and bragging that ‘this is not 1967’.

The problem that most of you have is that saying the Truth is always distasteful in Nigeria.
And without confronting the truth about the evils that has been done to people in this country, Nigeria will never progress but rather those evil deeds with continue to haunt this country from generation to generation.

And for your information, if what I said yesterday, about benue people, killing fleeing innocent Igbo civilians during the Biafran war is understood by you or anyone as mockery then so be it, I don't care how facts and truths hit you but the easiest we tell ourselves the truth of the evils we have done to each other the better for us all.

Nobody is immune to death and nobody should mock the dead. But when tragedies continue to struck you, you must look back to find where your problem started.
So my comment was directed at the people still alive in Benue and not the dead. And my message is a pointer to retrospect. Those who will understand me will understand, while those who don't should try next time.

Karlman:
The problem that most of you have is that saying the Truth is always distasteful in Nigeria.
And without confronting the truth about the evils that has been done to people in this country, Nigeria will never progress but rather those evil deeds with continue to haunt this country from generation to generation.

And for your information, if what I said yesterday, about benue people, killing fleeing innocent Igbo civilians during the Biafran war is understood by you or anyone as mockery then so be it, I don't care how facts and truths hit you but the easiest we tell ourselves the truth of the evils we have done to each other the better for us all.

Nobody is immune to death and nobody should mock the dead. But when tragedies continue to struck you, you must look back to find where your problem started.
So my comment was directed at the people still alive in Benue and not the dead. And my message is a pointer to retrospect. Those who will understand me will understand, while those who don't should try next time.

When you point a finger at someone, four of yours point at you.
Lots of evil might have happened in 60s and continue to happen today.
I have lots of reasons personally to be menace and an enemy of the state but I didn’t…not out of fear but we have to fight the good fight at the right time.

Family members and friends had their properties and goods burnt in kaduna and Zaria when I was a kid. Almajiris attacked my family at Sabon gari many years ago. It wasn’t once…it happened many times. Some people took shelter at the Nigerian army depot in Zaria. Folks armed themselves with smuggled weapons and fought back….i saw federal forces search houses for weapons because the forces that he didn’t expect the resistance and bravery.
My friend got killed and burnt in one the northern states during one of the ethno-religious riots.
The trauma hasn’t made me hateful…I’m much stronger than I’ve ever been and would probably be in the field when shit hits the fan. You can swear, curse and type as much negativity as you want but when it goes down, many people who brag online might not be there to hold weapon.

I’m appalled at people who go tribal and provocative at the slightest or no reason. What you say about Benue people could be also said about you by the Niger Delta people. Biafran soldiers were no saints.
Fulani menace isn’t something to use against people. We’ve all been affected and I believe there will be a day of reckoning but that day isn’t today….you are untrained, lack motivation, discipline and the resources to fight this fight.

You all should calm down, show respect to other ethnic groups and pls have some emotional intelligence cos many of us lack it. The odds are against the Igbos. What we have are forest guards, ebubeagus and town vigilantes but this is not a fight for these guys.

KosiGee:
About 40 innocent people murdered in cold blood in Abia state supposedly by Fulani bandits dropped from a helicopter.

You are an active member of nairalander with a significant online presence using other platforms.
Sometimes your posts make all of us Igbos look silly.
What and Karlman said about Benue people and the misfortune that befell them were distasteful.

Fulanis have attacked Nimbo, Eha Amaifu, some other parts of Nsukka, Nkanu, Agbani etc. Folks from Niger Delta could say same nonsense that you guys posted.
Pls show some respect when you accuse or write about other people especially the dead.
Fulani problem is a national problem being orchestrated by politicians and I believe individuals in the armed forces. They should be exposed and dealt with but not by disrespecting other ethnic groups and bragging that ‘this is not 1967’.

If you were in the Titanic before the final hour, you would have realized the best time to leave the Titanic was in 1966 before it hit the ice berg when it mattered the most , the next best time is now.

This is not the hour for emotions or sentiments toward the Tiv over their miscalculations during the civil war. My focus is not on feelings but on facts. And facts must be pointed out, no matter how uncomfortable they are.

The Tiv made mistakes and time for correction is now.

Karlman:
The problem that most of you have is that saying the Truth is always distasteful in Nigeria.
And without confronting the truth about the evils that has been done to people in this country, Nigeria will never progress but rather those evil deeds with continue to haunt this country from generation to generation.

And for your information, if what I said yesterday, about benue people, killing fleeing innocent Igbo civilians during the Biafran war is understood by you or anyone as mockery then so be it, I don't care how facts and truths hit you [b][/b]but the easiest we tell ourselves the truth of the evils we have done to each other the better for us all.

Nobody is immune to death and nobody should mock the dead. But when tragedies continue to struck you, you must look back to find where your problem started.
So my comment was directed at the people still alive in Benue and not the dead. And my message is a pointer to retrospect. Those who will understand me will understand, while those who don't should try next time.

About tragedies….We have our share of insecurities and violence and we need to look inwards and solve that rather than attempting to be sanctimonious when other people were affected.

Parts of Ihiala in Anambra are under siege. Federal forces are there, bandits whom we tagged ESN are there as I type this. The bandits kidnap and terrorise Igbos under the guise of biafran freedom fighters which they are not…they have taken over places like Lilu, Orsumoghu etc…they’d kill young men from that axis and tag them federal spies…Nigeria federal forces do the same, young men from there are dealt with after being accused of spying for IPOB and ESN. Nigerian army, police, NDLEA even Immigration officials under JTF are on South east Nigerian roads extorting our people and nothing is done about it….are these retributions for something we’ve done as well as alleged by Kettykin??
Should we also look inwards as well?

We are blaming the government for Nnamdi Kanu’s predication but how the hell did he get caught in Kenya? Ain’t you embarrassed by that news?
Should we query the gods why they let that happen?
Have you asked yourself why of all people, Nnamdi Kanu got caught, kidnapped and transported back to Nigeria by Buhari who failed to do same Uwaru Dikko? What if Buhari and Kenyan govt decided to unalive him? Would we know what happened to him if they decided to make him disappear?
Have you asked yourself why he is still incarcerated under Tinubu a Yoruba president whom he mocked and said many bad things when he was on radio?

Should we look inwards as well? Mind the fingers that you point at people bro and remove the speck in your eyes before you try to remove the one in your friend’ eye.

kettykin:
If you were in the Titanic before the final hour, you would have realized the best time to leave the Titanic was in 1966 before it hit the ice berg when it mattered the most , the next best time is now.

This is not the hour for emotions or sentiments toward the Tiv over their miscalculations during the civil war. My focus is not on feelings but on facts. And facts must be pointed out, no matter how uncomfortable they are.

The Tiv made mistakes and time for correction is now.

Allow the Tivs to sort themselves. Let’s deal with ours.
I have my issues with the Tivs and Benue people but this isn’t the right place and time to talk about that.

KosiGee:
About tragedies….We have our share of insecurities and violence and we need to look inwards and solve that rather than attempting to be sanctimonious when other people were affected.

Parts of Ihiala in Anambra are under siege. Federal forces are there, bandits whom we tagged ESN are there as I type this. The bandits kidnap and terrorise Igbos under the guise of biafran freedom fighters which they are not…they have taken over places like Lilu, Orsumoghu etc…they’d kill young men from that axis and tag them federal spies…Nigeria federal forces do the same, young men from there are dealt with after being accused of spying for IPOB and ESN. Nigerian army, police, NDLEA even Immigration officials under JTF are on South east Nigerian roads extorting our people and nothing is done about it….are these retributions for something we’ve done as well as alleged by Kettykin??
Should we also look inwards as well?

We are blaming the government for Nnamdi Kanu’s predication but how the hell did he get caught in Kenya? Ain’t you embarrassed by that news?
Should we query the gods why they let that happen?
Have you asked yourself why of all people, Nnamdi Kanu got caught, kidnapped and transported back to Nigeria by Buhari who failed to do same Uwaru Dikko? What if Buhari and Kenyan govt decided to unalive him? Would we know what happened to him if they decided to make him disappear?
Have you asked yourself why he is still incarcerated under Tinubu a Yoruba president whom he mocked and said many bad things when he was on radio?

Should we look inwards as well? Mind the fingers that you point at people bro and remove the speck in your eyes before you try to remove the one in your friend’ eye.

...I will respond to all you raised one after the other for clarity and fruitful discussion.

First of all, the proverb of the pointed finger is misunderstood by many as a constant occurrence that whenever you point a finger the other four must point back at you. It is not in all cases that you have the other four pointing back at you. The rest fingers can only point back at you when you are an evil doer or have done evil yourself.
So that I decided to point a finger towards the past evils of some benue people as a reminder for those still alive to know exactly when they let the viper into their homes, which some of you translated as mockery, does not mean that other fingers would be pointing at me when my own forefathers didn't commit same evil against them.
Now that's about the proverb of pointing finger.

I am very glad you had a first hand experience of what Northerners did to Igbos and southerners in the history of this country. Now my first question to you now is, please what is happening to the North now? Are those atrocities not haunting them now?
So if I decided to point fingers to the various atrocities of the Northerners towards their fellow citizens, using your own very experience as an example, and letting them know that that is the source of all they are suffering today and will continue to suffer until they are ready to confront the truth, then you would assume that I hate them or mocking them. Truth is truth and until we accept it without sugarcoating it, Nigeria is not going anywhere rather it will get worst. Just as it is doing now.

Should I now talk about the Hausas, in fact they are even the greatest loser among the major tribes but nobody is aware because they have been forgotten. I can go on and on but let me stop here...

One day Nigeria shall know the truth and the truth will set Nigeria free.

Karlman:
...I will respond to all you raised one after the other for clarity and fruitful discussion.

First of all, the proverb of the pointed finger is misunderstood by many as a constant occurrence that whenever you point a finger the other four must point back at you. It is not in all cases that you have the other four pointing back at you. The rest fingers can only point back at you when you are an evil doer or have done evil yourself.
So that I decided to point a finger towards the past evils of some benue people as a reminder for those still alive to know exactly when they let the viper into their homes, which some of you translated as mockery, does not mean that other fingers would be pointing at me when my own forefathers didn't commit same evil against them.
Now that's about the proverb of pointing finger.

I am very glad you had a first hand experience of what Northerners did to Igbos and southerners in the history of this country. Now my first question to you now is, please what is happening to the North now? Are those atrocities not haunting them now?
So if I decided to point fingers to the various atrocities of the Northerners towards their fellow citizens, using your own very experience as an example, and letting them know that that is the source of all they are suffering today and will continue to suffer until they are ready to confront the truth, then you would assume that I hate them or mocking them. Truth is truth and until we accept it without sugarcoating it, Nigeria is not going anywhere rather it will get worst. Just as it is doing now.

Should I now talk about the Hausas, in fact they are even the greatest loser among the major tribes but nobody is aware because they have been forgotten. I can go on and on but let me stop here...

One day Nigeria shall know the truth and the truth will set Nigeria free.

How old are you Karlman? I dont mean any disrespect. I asked that question not out of contempt but because you seem to remind me of something and of a couple of people close to me who were severely affected by the hate and crisis up north many years ago like I pointed out earlier.
Someone close to me had his businesses burnt to the ground in Zaria. He was a hard worker, smart and selfless, always ready to help and always giving money to almajiris. A particular boy he used to give money was the one who led the people that broke his shop door, stole and burnt it…this happened somewhere around hospital road Zaria.
Another person close to me was killed by a mob and the guy who was part of it was someone who knew him very well.

If I was a psychopath, I’d be so hateful and become a merciless and indiscriminate killer targeting anyone from the north whether Plateau state, South kaduna or core Muslim northerners but I am not sick in the head. There’s time for everything.

Back to my question, the guy whose shop was burnt and who almost lost his life left Kaduna state and back to the East. His life was messed up but today he is back on track. In his eyes, Nnamdi Kanu, Simon Ekpa can never be wrong. He mourned Iko nso when he died, attended Ipob meetings.
He was part of the crew that will always blame Lord Lugard. He’d probably blame Tivs, Lantang people, etc. He’d curse Gowon or Theophilus Danjuma and probably mock him when he goes on his ‘defend yourself’ crusade.

Things don’t really work that way. If you are still young and capable of holding a weapon, you know what to do. Like my guy, harbouring lots of hate for people don’t do anything to remedy any situation.

My guys would support any group who claims to fight to restore Biafra but he’s coming to his senses now. Things don’t work that way.

Let’s beam the searchlight inwards. We have a lot to deal with and tidy up as a people. You are not prepared to deal with the situation if the opportunity presents itself right now.

Arguing with people online won’t solve that problem. You can battle, debate and write beautifully but you’d be stuck at same spot if you are not prepared to deal decisively with the problem.

The fulanis that cause all sorts of problems don’t make noise online or offline. Some of them you’d strangle and break to pieces in a 1-1 physical fight but things don’t work that way my friend. They are audacious, ruthless and smart because we make them look like that but they take care of business…that’s what sets them apart.

We as a people talk too much. We simply don’t know when to talk, shout or raise our fists in confrontations…until we deal with that, you’d be surprised how things change.

Karlman:
I don't know why you crying and don't care.
All that i know is that the people of middle belt have to look inwards, retrospectively to find where this problem started

Those monies/levies/tax that the state IGR service people come to our shops, offices, and collect from commercial motorists are called what ?

It is already a tragic end for apc and whoever that supports the downfall of Nigeria.



See me see a lot of tears!