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| Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MadeInTokyo(op): 9:08pm On Jun 17, 2025*. Modified: 9:41pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
Iran a country 3 times bigger in size than Ukraine, and has far more military capabilities in terms of Missiles, warships, battle tanks and soldiers that Ukraine but yet Israel has taken control of Iranian airspace with 48 hours that allows Israeli warplanes to stroll and stay in Iranian airspace for more than 5 hours , which Russia is still struggling to achieve in Ukraine for the past 3 years Power mismatch in Israel-Iran war shows importance of air superiority The IDF's achievement in the sky over Iran, including over its capital, allows its warplanes to drop bombs from within Iranian airspace instead of relying on expensive long-range missiles. What Israel did in Iran in 48 hours, Russia failed to do over 3.5 years in Ukraine,. Aerial superiority is key, experts agree; but the overall culture, sophisticated training and innovation of the Israeli Air Force, combined with its integration into intelligence and cyber capabilities, ensured its success An important American publication tried on Sunday to explain how Israel was able to gain air superiority over Iran within 48 hours while Russia was unable to do the same in Ukraine after 3.5 years of war. The IDF's achievement in the sky over Iran, including over its capital, allows its warplanes to drop bombs from within Iranian airspace instead of relying on expensive long-range missiles. Top Videos "On Sunday, Israel was exploiting its advantage, saying it had taken out dozens of surface-to-air missiles in western Iran and killed the intelligence chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, along with his deputy," The Wall Street Journal wrote. Military experts interviewed by the paper explained that air superiority is key. No side was able to achieve it in the Russia-Ukraine war and the result was stagnation and a war of attrition, one expert said. The paper explained that the initial strike was carried out using the U.S.-made IDF Air Force's F-35 stealth bombers that were enhanced with Israeli modifications. "Now that most of Iran's air defenses have been suppressed, older warplanes such as F-15 and F-16 are joining the fight. Israel has also started dropping short-range JDAM and Spice guided bombs, which are cheaper and much more abundant than missiles, to devastating effect." The analysts who spoke to the Journal agreed that Israel learned from the Russian mistakes and the Ukrainian successes, but said that the Israeli Air Force had better attack capabilities than the Russians to begin with, and Ukraine had been able to defend its airspace better than Iran had been. “Iran never relied on air defenses alone to ward off attacks like this. The idea was always to use deterrence,” said Fabian Hinz, a military expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. "Iran’s air defenses were a much easier target set than Ukraine’s air defenses in almost every respect,” said Michael Kofman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment and an expert on Russian and Ukrainian militaries. “The asymmetry in qualitative capability between Israel’s air force and Russia is also vast and can be easily observed.” Edward Stringer, a retired British air marshal, attributed the IDF's success to "the overall culture, sophisticated training and innovation of the Israeli air force, combined with its integration into intelligence and cyber capabilities." An important American publication tried on Sunday to explain how Israel was able to gain air superiority over Iran within 48 hours while Russia was unable to do the same in Ukraine after 3.5 years of war. The IDF's achievement in the sky over Iran, including over its capital, allows its warplanes to drop bombs from within Iranian airspace instead of relying on expensive long-range missiles. According to the WSJ report, both Iran and Ukraine had old and ill-equipped air forces, but the Iranians also failed in ensuring their aerial defenses. This was a fatal strategic miscalculation, the publication said. Iran opted to rely on its arsenal of surface-to-surface missiles and on its regional proxies. But Hezbollah in Lebanon was badly defeated by Israel last year and after the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, Israel destroyed Syrian air defenses, clearing a path for its aircraft to reach Iran. The Wall Street Journal's comparison of the two conflicts showed that Ukraine's Soviet-era S-300 and Buk System outperformed Iran's mishmash of S-300, Chinese batteries and locally made air-defense systems. Ukraine, thanks to a 2022 warning from American intelligence that Russia was planning an invasion, spread its mobile anti-aircraft batteries across the country and kept some hidden. They survived the Russian attack, forcing the Russians to rely on cruise and ballistic missiles to attack targets deep in Ukrainian territory. Iran had been taken by complete surprise, despite public threats. “Basically, what Israel did with Iran is what Russia wanted to do with Ukraine, geopolitical analyst Michael Horowitz said. "They thought they could pull off some cloak-and-dagger thing, and infiltrate and decapitate the Ukrainian regime but it turned out that the Ukrainian society has a resilience and cannot be so easily penetrated—whereas when it comes to Iran, the regime is so unpopular that it’s easy to find people there who will agree to work with Israel.” https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-takes-control-of-irans-skiesa-feat-that-still-eludes-russia-in-ukraine-846ccb95 https://www.ynetnews.com/article/s1avsuaqge
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| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by Wizardslayer: 9:16pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
The advance tech in the hands of the Americans are far more greater than what the Russians and the Chinese have in their possession. That facts are not debatable.
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| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MadeInTokyo(op): 9:17pm On Jun 17, 2025*. Modified: 9:43pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
Wizardslayer:Not debatable at all at all, but some will still come here to argue because of their hatred from United States and Israel |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by NothingDoMe: 9:20pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
Wizardslayer:You need to know how to use it as well. I was saying earlier on that I watched those Jets in action over Tehran. First class maneuvering and evasive actions. Be like Hollywood movie. Countries will like to train with the Israelis and buy some fighter Jets from the USA. Sadly war is also a means to advertise your tech. |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MadeInTokyo(op): 9:23pm On Jun 17, 2025*. Modified: 9:40pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
Russians should be ashamed of their militaryComparison** of **Iran vs. Ukraine** in terms of land size, military strength, army, navy, air force, military equipment, and capabilities—with **bolded subtitles** and updated insights: **🌍 [b]Land Size** Iran is significantly larger than Ukraine in terms of land area. Iran spans approximately **1.65 million square kilometers**, making it the **17th largest country in the world**. In contrast, Ukraine covers about **603,000 square kilometers**, ranking it around **45th globally**. This difference gives Iran greater geographical depth and strategic buffer zones, especially relevant in defense scenarios and regional influence.[/b] --- **🪖 Military Strength & Personnel** Iran has an estimated **active military force of 610,000 personnel**, supplemented by an additional **200,000 paramilitary forces** under the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and Basij militias. Its **military budget** stands at around **\$25 billion**. Ukraine, especially since the 2022 Russian invasion, has massively scaled up its forces, now boasting over **500,000+ active personnel** and nearly **400,000 reserves**. Its defense budget has ballooned to nearly **\$45–50 billion**, largely due to foreign military aid from NATO countries, the EU, and the United States. --- **🛡️ Army** Iran maintains a large but aging ground force, with over **4,000 main battle tanks**, mostly older models like the T-72, Zulfiqar (domestic), and some modified U.S. models from pre-revolution days. It also possesses over **6,500 artillery systems** and **2,000+ multiple rocket launchers (MLRS)**. Ukraine’s army is smaller in size but more technologically advanced due to Western support. It has received **modern tanks like the Leopard 2, Challenger 2, and Abrams M1**, in addition to its Soviet-era T-64s and T-72s. Its artillery strength is enhanced by **advanced Western systems** like **HIMARS, Caesar, Krab**, and **M777 howitzers**. --- **🚢 Navy** Iran has a relatively sizable naval presence, especially in the Persian Gulf, with **around 190 naval vessels**, including **3 frigates**, **3 corvettes**, and **numerous fast-attack craft and mini-submarines** used for asymmetric warfare. Iran’s **IRGC Navy** specializes in swarm tactics and mine warfare. Conversely, Ukraine’s navy has been severely diminished since Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014. Most of its ships, including its flagship frigate *Hetman Sahaidachny*, have been scuttled or destroyed. Today, Ukraine relies mainly on **coastal defenses, naval drones, and Western-donated patrol boats**. --- **✈️ Air Force** Iran’s air force has a fleet of around **350 aircraft**, consisting of outdated U.S. F-4 Phantoms, Russian MiG-29s, Su-24s, and domestically modified jets. Its fleet suffers from aging systems, but Iran compensates with a growing **missile and drone arsenal**. Ukraine’s air force was heavily hit in the early days of the 2022 war, but it retains an operational fleet of **MiG-29s, Su-27s, and Su-25s**, and is expected to receive **F-16s from NATO allies**. Ukraine has superior **air defense systems**, including **S-300, NASAMS, IRIS-T, and Patriot batteries**, which have been pivotal in defending against Russian missile strikes. --- **🚀 Missile and Drone Arsenal** Iran is one of the most **advanced missile powers in the Middle East**, possessing **ballistic missiles** with ranges up to **2,000 km** such as the Shahab-3 and Sejjil, along with **cruise missiles** and a robust domestic drone program. Notably, Iran produces the **Shahed-131 and Shahed-136 kamikaze drones**, widely used by Russia in Ukraine. Ukraine, while lacking long-range ballistic capabilities, has developed **tactical missile systems** and **receives cruise missiles and long-range drones** from allies (e.g., UK Storm Shadow, U.S. ATACMS). Ukraine also uses **Bayraktar TB2 drones**, which were effective early in the conflict. --- **🧠 Military Capabilities & Doctrine** Iran emphasizes **asymmetric warfare**, deterrence through missile threats, and influence via **regional proxy forces** in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Lebanon. It prepares for war with superior forces using guerrilla-style naval tactics, ballistic missiles, and cyber operations. Ukraine, on the other hand, has embraced **conventional warfare doctrines**, integrating **NATO standards**, training, and battlefield intelligence. Its capabilities have significantly matured through its ongoing war with Russia, giving it unparalleled experience in **combined arms warfare, urban combat**, and **logistics under pressure**. --- **🤝 Foreign Alliances and Support** Iran remains largely isolated internationally, with informal or strategic ties to Russia, China, North Korea, and some regional actors. It manufactures much of its equipment domestically due to sanctions. Ukraine, by contrast, is deeply embedded in **NATO’s strategic orbit**, receiving extensive military, financial, and intelligence support from the **U.S., U.K., EU**, and **other NATO allies**. This access to modern battlefield technology and real-time intelligence has been critical to Ukraine's resilience and tactical innovation. --- **🔚 Conclusion** Iran is a regional power with **large manpower, missile dominance, and asymmetric strategies** aimed at deterring foreign intervention. However, its equipment is largely outdated. Ukraine, while smaller and more reliant on allies, has rapidly transformed into a **battle-hardened, modern military force**, showcasing effective integration of Western arms, battlefield adaptability, and resilience under extreme pressure. If both were to engage in a conventional war (hypothetically), **Ukraine would likely dominate in high-tech warfare and defensive operations**, while **Iran could pose a significant missile and drone-based threat**.
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| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MadeInTokyo(op): 9:36pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
Russia's Track Record Raises Questions About Reliability as an Ally Despite multiple defense agreements with Iran, Russia has once again demonstrated its inconsistency as a dependable ally, notably remaining on the sidelines during the current Israeli airstrikes targeting Iran. This pattern of inaction is not new. In the past, Russia distanced itself from allies under fire—failing to support Saddam Hussein during the Gulf War and the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Similarly, Russia withheld support for Muammar Gaddafi during NATO’s intervention in Libya, which ultimately led to his ousting. Most recently, Moscow took no significant action to shield Bashar al-Assad when Israeli air raids struck Syrian territory, despite their alliance. These repeated instances highlight a growing perception of Russia as an unreliable strategic partner in times of critical military need. |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by HolinessForever: 10:13pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
It's not that Russia is not a strong nation The Fact is that ISRAEL is not an Ordinary Nation. This is a Fact that many know bit they refuse to acknowledge. No nation on the Face of the Earth can do what ISRAEL does. It is not about the People of ISRAEL, its about the ONE WHO BACKS ISRAEL. Hate or Love ISRAEL, there is a Supernatural Mysterious Being that Backs and Powers that Little Nation. It is beyond Himan Understanding, tech, expertise, etc. That Supernatural being is the CREATOR and Owner of the World and Everything in it. That being is the GOD OF ISRAEL |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by yyba: 11:25pm On Jun 17, 2025 |
And you think Russia is fighting Ukraine not NATO abi MadeInTokyo: |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MrMcJay(m): 4:04am On Jun 18, 2025 |
yyba:Always manufacturing excuses for losing. Oya, what happened in Syria that made Assad run off like a scared puppy? |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by ehikwe22: 4:36am On Jun 18, 2025 |
Una go just open una mouth dey talk like say nothing dey upstairs. DOES IRAN HAVE 500 COUNTRIES SUPPLYING THEN AIR DEFENCES AND ATTACK MISSILES AND DRONES? How do you compare the incomparable? If Iran start getting air defense systems asUkraine is getting after they get disabled, even America can't rule their sky. Btw, Israeli airspace is completely open as well. Only American Tecams, patriot systems and others are helping a bit at the moment |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by Tboy222: 4:42am On Jun 18, 2025*. Modified: 5:14am On Jun 18, 2025 |
HolinessForever:Absolute truth, I think the war between Israel and Iran is Israeli attempt to clear the ground and create a safe atmosphere for future activities. There is a strong belief that the Israeli are planning or looking forward to building the third temple beside the dome of the rock. With the first temple built by King Solomon about 3000BC, and the second temple built by prophet Ezra and expanded by King Herod. Both temples were destroyed by the Babylonians and Romans respectively . There is strong indication that the temple mount institute in Jerusalem are looking forward to the reconstruction of the third temple. According to them all materials are ready, including the red heifers, and most importantly the Ark of the covenant. They actually believe Donald Trump is the King Cyrus who will usher in and support the construction and financing of the third temple. But in order to do this, some obstacles have to be taken out of the way, which are all form of anti-Israeli organizations and terrorist including their financiers. With support from Islamic nation's like Saudi Arabia, Syria, quatar, Egypt and UAE. The Abrahamic accords will be signed up immediately after the war I strongly believe so And this will grant Israel access to build the temple right beside the Dome of the rock which is restricted to Muslims alone. Now what does this portends. According to the Bible, the Antichrist would sign a peace treaty with Israel, then break the covenant and attack the Jews. He would then proceed to the temple and declare himself as God. For this prophecy to be fufilled, there has to be a new temple in Jerusalem. The image of the beast, a form of Artificial Superintelligence or ASI, with chips or brain chip interfaces implanted in the forehead or right hand will send a signal via super speed internet or IOTS to the image or Superintelligence. The intense radiation from radiowaves could lead to sores potruding from the skins of those who receives the mark. Failure to receive the mark would lead to gory and indescribable torture which will further lead to decapitation. The chip in the brain or right hand ultimately sends signals to millions of drones hovering aboard which will pick out anyone who is not chipped or is faking being chipped The Singularity predicted by award winning computer scientist Dr Ray Kurzwell, who predicted that by 2045, we would acheive Singularity or the intelligence explosion, including the rise of transhumanism. Artificial Superintelligence which is approximately a billion times smarter than anyone who has ever lived. This will lead to inventions and information so vast and so fast that the human brain would ever comprehend. Everything is falling into place, the ball is in your court, are you for Christ or against Him. If not kindly confess your sins and ask him to forgive you, repent and turn away from them. Walk with Him daily, pray and read your Bible A relationship with Christ is all that matters. God bless you as you do. Meanwhile kindly check out this YouTube channels Sid Roth it's supernatural (YouTube) Randy Kay ministries (YouTube) Touching the afterlife (YouTube) Deep Believer ( YouTube)
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| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by MrMcJay(m): 4:46am On Jun 18, 2025 |
ehikwe22:Success produces results Failure produces excuses |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by ehikwe22: 5:17am On Jun 18, 2025 |
MrMcJay:I don't have a stake in this war. Both sides are enemies of the black race. If you want to die for what doesn't concern you, go ahead. I just made an objective comment. However, you seemed emotionally attached to this topic that it affects your sense of reasoning |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by erad(m): 7:34am On Jun 18, 2025 |
All these sensational writeups? The motive behind both wars is different. Russia is after a piece of land, what sense does it make to occupy the whole Ukranian airspace? A lot of you still don't understand that Russia is way smarter than you all think. They are yet to show their full might and maybe pray for NATO to attack directly so you can see what they are really capable of. If Russia was so weak, do you know how many countries would have directly taken advantage to attack them? But some people without any internal info or military literacy will just read one article and be typing rubbish. You don't even know the full might of Nigeria's military but it's Russian military you feel you have perfect knowledge of. Dey play. |
| Re: Israel Takes Control Of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia In Ukraine by HolinessForever: 8:56am On Jun 18, 2025 |
You are quite on point but the 3rd temple cannot be done now until the rise of the antichrist, the signing of the peace covenant of 7 yrs with ISRAEL and others . Al these will come into play after the RAPTURE of the church. The Abramham accord is watering the ground for all that but it is not the The real deal. The antichrist must publicly rise before that is done and that is after the RAPTURE. The Destruction going on now in iran is the Fufillment of prophecy of Jeremiah 49:34-39. Many other events are taking shape right before us. Zech 12 and 14 , the Prophecy of Jerusalem being a burdensome stone to all Nations and all nations coming against ISRAEL is also taking shape. The Ezekiel 38 and 39 GogMagog War alliance is taking shape. Also Look out for Damacus , the syria capital. It will be wiped out of the Existence. Isaiah 17. Also Mystery Babylon the USA will be taken down as Prophesied in Rev 18. Tho I believe that will happen sometime after Trump era. As Trump is a Major tool in God's Hand. Trump is also a Mercy Period for the USA. He is a Righteous King who is Sold out for GOD'S bidding. GOD ALMIGHTY that I know will not Destroy a Nation with a Righteous King. The imminent RAPTURE of the Church, I believe in somewhere in the mix of these events . Before all Hell is let loose in this Earth, the Saints will be Taken out. It is soooooo Imminent. Tboy222: |
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