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Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Obrigardo(op): 2:32pm On Jun 19, 2025
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?

Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by mrvitalis(m): 2:37pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Which year was Jordan founded
Syria nko?
Lebanon nko

Why focus on isreal
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by CodeTemplarr: 2:43pm On Jun 19, 2025
Both are built around jews. It was same land then and now.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by brain54(m): 2:46pm On Jun 19, 2025
mrvitalis:
Which year was Jordan founded
Syria nko?
Lebanon nko

Why focus on isreal
Is that the question they asked you...?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by 360degreess(m): 2:49pm On Jun 19, 2025
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by 360degreess(m): 2:50pm On Jun 19, 2025
brain54:
Is that the question they asked you...?
..He doesn't have the answer.They know nothing about israel, they are just doing blind following
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by LadyExcellency: 3:03pm On Jun 19, 2025
Yes. The Apostles asked when Israel would be restored, and Jesus answered them. Jews will always come back to rebuild the city.

Acts 1:6-7 KJV
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? [7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Ezra 4:12 CSB
Let it be known to the king that the Jews who came from you have returned to us at Jerusalem. They are rebuilding that rebellious and evil city, finishing its walls, and repairing its foundations.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by brain54(m): 3:07pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
..He doesn't have the answer.They know nothing about israel, they are just doing blind following
Too bad...
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by LordBiden(m): 3:08pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by LadyExcellency: 3:11pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Stop spreading fålsęhood out of ignōrānce. Every Christian knows it's the fulfilment of Biblical prophecies.

Yes, they are the same. God removed them and also brought them back according to the prophecies in the Scriptures.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by LadyExcellency: 3:12pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly, taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
Yes, but they wont tell us that Jesus Christ and all Apostles that died preaching Christ for Christianity are all Jews.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 3:18pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
If they bring some black people from America and they say Onitsha is their father's land should Onitsha people pack out for themhuh
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 3:20pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
Arabs welcome black people to Mecca. Does not mean they love them

They love the revenue they bring

That is not a logical argument

It is very immature thinking
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Righteousness2(m):
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Is the WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE HANDED OUT TO HUMANITY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO the SAME BIBLE TODAY?

IS Your Creator GOD ALMIGHTY, the GOD of ISRAEL, the same GOD Today?

Has GOD ALMIGHTY the CREATOR of the Heaven and Earth changed?



Isaiah 66:8
Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children.

Jeremiah 31:35-36
Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name):

“If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.”


Raw Prophecies from the Word of GOD, the Bible about ISRAEL and the nations around is playing out Live before your eyes as Prophecied thousands of Years ago and you are Asking if its the same ISRAEL.

I Sincerely weep for this our Generation! The way the devil has confused and packing people to hell is Fearful.

A Generation that does not Know GOD , HIS Word and HIS ways, is a Wasted Generation.

GOD show Mercy and open people's eyes before it's too late.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Elyonboy(m):
It's not the same. The present Israel is nothing but a Western creation. It has nothing to do with the biblical Israel.

Edited for those mentioning me. The original Jews are even black and not this fake white European Jews. You have all been scammed.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 3:29pm On Jun 19, 2025
Righteousness2:
Is the WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE HANDED OUT TO HUMANITY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO the SAME BIBLE TODAY?


IS Your Creator GOD ALMIGHTY, the GOD of ISRAEL, the same GOD Today?
Has GOD ALMIGHTY the CREATORof the Heaven and Earth changed?
Handed out where, how ? On a palliative queue? To whom?

Some human beings wrote these books Bible , Quran and claimed they are the word of God.

They then imposed this on their populations by force for centuries killing anyone who disagreed and we are here today in Nigeria saying they are the word of God

A God that had nothing to do with black African people
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Kemetian: 3:29pm On Jun 19, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Both are built around jews. It was same land then and now.
Wrong.

The ancient Hebrews were Black Africans.

They were not white people from Austria, Sweden, Ukraine, Germany and Poland claiming today to be ‘Jews’.

And mass murdering tens of thousands of innocent children to steal their land.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Amitex(m): 3:33pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Was Christ an Arab or a Jew?
Is Islam closer to Jadaism than Christianity?
Do Christians seek "Death to the Jews"?
Is having more mosque than churches erode the fact that the Judaism you talk about is about 100% of Old Testament Bible?
Your taqquia adds NOTHING NEW!
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by correctguy101(m): 3:43pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
If they bring some black people from America and they say Onitsha is their father's land should Onitsha people pack out for themhuh
My brother...

Help me ask dem o.

This is a question I've asked people both offline and online, and the only sensible thing for them to do is use God as a way of escape or maybe they're trying s hard to convince themselves.

Let's imagine some God has given the Fulani the deeds and permission to "achieve" Benue. So wetin make those whose ancestors have been living there do?

Robbery is robbery, no matter how you try to use words and whatever justifications to twist it.

Until e reach pesin, most people no dey understand say na pesin family be dead body.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 3:50pm On Jun 19, 2025
correctguy101:
My brother...

Help me ask dem o.

This is a question I've asked people both offline and online, and the only sensible thing for them to do is use God as a way of escape or maybe they're trying s hard to convince themselves.

Let's imagine some God has given the Fulani the deeds and permission to "achieve" Benue. So wetin make those whose ancestors have been living there do?

Robbery is robbery, no matter how you try to use words and whatever justifications to twist it.

Until e reach pesin, most people no dey understand say na pesin family be dead body.
The long and short of it is that SOME PEOPLE returned in 1948 claiming that their ancestors were the HEBREWS OF THE BIBLE

Two things
1. We do not know whether their claim is true
2. Even if it is true does that entitle them to ask those living there to pack out and should that principle apply everywhere


The main problem our people have today is Christianity and Islam . The worst things that happened to black people even worse that the slave trade

Funnily I do not get how being a Christian would make one sympathize with the Israelis who absolutely reject Christianity At least Muslims acknowledge their Jesus as a Prophet whilst Jews see him as a fraud

All 3 religions are not the business of black Africans
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Grace201010(f): 3:50pm On Jun 19, 2025
We have Jews by birth and also Jews by conversion.....

Most of the people there today were not Jews by birth, but by conversion.... Even the Jewish Torah gave room for that......

So the answer to ur question is yes, they are Jews.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Fleery: 3:52pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
No they are not. They are impostors. Read Rev. 2v9
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Ikaeniyan0: 3:55pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Yes, they are the same. They have the same bloodline
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by correctguy101(m): 4:03pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
The long and short of it is that SOME PEOPLE returned in 1948 claiming that their ancestors were the HEBREWS OF THE BIBLE

Two things
1. We do not know whether their claim is true
2. Even if it is true does that entitle them to ask those living there to pack out and should that principle apply everywhere


The main problem our people have today is Christianity and Islam . The worst things that happened to black people even worse that the slave trade

Funnily I do not get how being a Christian would make one sympathize with the Israelis who absolutely reject Christianity At least Muslims acknowledge their Jesus as a Prophet whilst Jews see him as a fraud

All 3 religions are not the business of black Africans
That'll tell you something else is at play here..

There's a mass brainwashing that didn't happen ordinarily but through powerful tools. It's passed through even genes and continues to happen when specific words are spoken.

Jews hate them, yet they love Jews. That one na ordinary matter?

Abegi
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by budaatum: 4:06pm On Jun 19, 2025
They seem pretty much the same to me, though current Israel is buying migrants from everywhere to increase their numbers, which the old Israel would not pollute their bloodline with.

They both drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before them and dispossess the inhabitants of the land.

50 And the Lord spake unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying,

51 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are passed over Jordan into the land of Canaan;

52 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:

53 And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.


54 And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: and to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit.

55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

Numbers 33:50-55 King James Version
Makes me think of an omo onilẹ asking for land rent on a house built on land his great great grandfather sold before his father was born.

The last verse does sound like a motivator for much of Israel's current actions.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by bigpicture001: 4:12pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Over sabi... Who told u is not Judaism they still practice.. why use the word hate as if they are Arabs... Only Arabs hate.. cuz their book say u should bhate and kill Ur umbeliever
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by dederocs(m): 4:19pm On Jun 19, 2025
The spirituality and religion is still there, and yes some traced their ancestry and joined the present day Jews, though those ancestrally linked might be a small proportion, but they are some who traced their bloodline to the Jews of the Bible. When the new Jewish state was formed, they all came into it to dwell, along with other Europeans who embraced the Jewish religion and spirituality.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 4:19pm On Jun 19, 2025
correctguy101:
That'll tell you something else is at play here..

There's a mass brainwashing that didn't happen ordinarily but through powerful tools. It's passed through even genes and continues to happen when specific words are spoken.

Jews hate them, yet they love Jews. That one na ordinary matter?

Abegi
Jews and Muslims have the same theology with regard to the concept of Idolatry, a non African concept by the way

Both religions share the view that belief in Jesus as God is Idolatry
Though the Muslim theology is clearly a copy and paste relatively recent fraud

They are all fraudulent in different ways and very harmful to Black Africans

In fact Black people will never progress if they do not discard those religions
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by correctguy101(m): 4:30pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
Jews and Muslims have the same theology with regard to the concept of Idolatry, a non African concept by the way

Both religions share the view that belief in Jesus as God is Idolatry
Though the Muslim theology is clearly a copy and paste relatively recent fraud

They are all fraudulent in different ways and very harmful to Black Africans

In fact Black people will never progress if they do not discard those religions
Yes...

As a first move to gaining and keeping an identity.

As it is, black eediots believe deeply they're Abraham's children.

I'm happy my daughter doesn't think so.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Kushites: 4:35pm On Jun 19, 2025
Ikaeniyan0:
Yes, they are the same. They have the same bloodline
What bloodline?

What does that even mean?

My friend will you go away from here.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Kushites: 4:39pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
Jews and Muslims have the same theology with regard to the concept of Idolatry, a non African concept by the way

Both religions share the view that belief in Jesus as God is Idolatry
Though the Muslim theology is clearly a copy and paste relatively recent fraud

They are all fraudulent in different ways and very harmful to Black Africans

In fact Black people will never progress if they do not discard those religions
There is a slow but steady awakening among our people.

Rejecting colonial influences.

The Ooni of Ife recently allocated 4 acres of land to build the World Ifa Temple in Ile-Ife.

This marks the greatest and most significant attempt to reclaim our glorious spiritual knowledge and heritage, since the British Invasion.
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