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Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by mrvitalis(m): 6:44pm On Jun 19, 2025
02Kebreal:
Answer this particular question fes then you come back and ask your own later
We cannot use questions to answer question.
It's a show of dumbness
All these countries where created by the same mandate that created Israel
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by miketayo(m): 6:46pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
You may be right they hate us, but one thing I love about the jews is they mind their business.
Muslims on the other end can not coexist with any other religion, they can't even coexist with people in their own religion. You have fought every other religion yet you don't see yourself as the problem.
Japan is currently protesting to deport all Muslims why is it always Islam
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by makavellidon(m): 6:46pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
that what they believe, because the Israel in the bible wouldn't be behaving like psychopath
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Tradepunter2: 6:47pm On Jun 19, 2025
brain54:
Is that the question they asked you...?
All you propaganda people... Una go rest las las... No body is falling for the cheap propaganda.... We see what is happening in naija... Everyone wishes they were like Israel and India that knows how to deal with these things
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by nosiebaba(m): 6:47pm On Jun 19, 2025
brain54:
Is that the question they asked you...?
Answer the one they asked you. Who are you to own the only rights to ask questions? The Bible accurately predicted the re establishment of the nation of isreal in the end times and it turns out the Bible was over accurate.
Scripture is clear that Israel’s final reestablishment in the land will occur in close connection with the Second Coming of the Messiah. It is further evident that the Messiah’s Second Coming is tied to the second regathering of Israel into her land (Isa. 11:10–12). Note the time of the Messiah’s Second Coming: when “the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people” (v. 11). Note further from whence He shall gather them: “from the four corners of the earth” (v. 12).

It is further evident that, although in unbelief (Ezek. 37:cool, Israel will be reestablished as a nation before the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week (Isa. 28:15–18, 22).
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Goosethetruth(m): 6:47pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Lol...😂
It is absurd for any person in this modern age to think the Israelites mentioned in the Bible and the Jewish Tanakh are the same as the modern state of Israel created at the end of the 2nd world war on the 14th of May 1948.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by ecolime(m): 6:47pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
The Jews mentioned the Bible, where are they?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
I did not say they hate them and I don't care . It is irrelevant

Jews believe that Christianity is Idolatry

The perspective of Judaism is very clear

What is the FIRST OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

You shall have no other gods before me,


The Jews view Christianity as a fundamental breach of the First commandment and there is nothing to discuss

No meeting ground

Jesus of Christianity in the Jewish world view is a false god within the meaning of the First commandment. It is non negotiable
In addition to your point,

It is believed and written in the Jewish Talmud that a kind like Jesus is boiling inside hot excrete in the after life.

Jews don’t hide that judgement about Jesus.

As a matter of fact, it was once proposed that Christianity should be banned in Israel
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by ohigus(m): 6:49pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Is what most Christians from Africa never understand
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by makavellidon(m): 6:50pm On Jun 19, 2025
Righteousness2:
Is the WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE HANDED OUT TO HUMANITY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO the SAME BIBLE TODAY?

IS Your Creator GOD ALMIGHTY, the GOD of ISRAEL, the same GOD Today?

Has GOD ALMIGHTY the CREATOR of the Heaven and Earth changed?



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Raw Prophecies from the Word of GOD, the Bible about ISRAEL and the nations around is playing out Live before your eyes as Ptophecied thousands of Years ago and you are Asking if its the same ISRAEL.

I Sincerely weep for this our Generation! The way the devil has confused and packing people to hell is Fearful.

A Generation that does not Know GOD , HIS Word and HIS ways, is a Wasted Generation.

GOD show Mercy and open people's eyes before it's too late.
the are saying meaningful thing the hypocrite pastor do come with bible hater of islam
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Jughead29: 6:50pm On Jun 19, 2025
First of all what is Christianity?

People who live a Christlike life ok

Now, The President himself reads Bible most times on live broadcasting. He didn't read Quran or any other book. They go to Church, not mosque or any other place
They worship on Sundays, Not Fridays

So what makes you think they are not Christians just because they are peace-loving people who tolerate Islam freely, something that no Islamic country will allow.

Also Jesus said "He that is not against us is for us" Mark 9:38-40

bewla:
we have only two children of Abraham Ismael and Isiac

So if this is true
Ismael are Muslim
Isaac are jew and Jews practice Judaism

Where do you get Christianity from

If you don't believe ask Benjamin natanyahu which religion he practices
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by PerfectMan24: 6:51pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Any day Biafra got independence, u will still ask if they are still they same Biafra of 1970's ojukwu fought for
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Rhips: 6:51pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Yes, it is. Circumstantially and specifically.
Circumstantially because the hatred of all its neighbours and much of the world against Israel + Plus other happenings around Israel.
Specifically, there are numbers from the Bible that suggests that modern Isreal will be born on exactly 14th May 1948.
For example, if you calculate how long the Bible says Israel servitude will last because they become an unsovereign nation again, you will get to 14th May 1948 as the date it will end. There are others but this is the most obvious one.

Also, if you consider that the Roman Empire, according to the Bible, will be the last empire that till rule over Israel before the anti-Christ led Conferderation nations, you will conclude that the current Israel is the Israel of the Bible.
Finally, there is no record in the Bible of faking Israel. There is of faking to be a Jew and other things, but not Israel.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by ohigus(m): 6:52pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
Welcoming thousands of tourists not Christians fact check me

Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Mandesz(m): 6:52pm On Jun 19, 2025
brain54:
Is that the question they asked you...?
He asked a good question because those are the same neighboring countries to the Israel In the bible
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Ezzymadu(m): 6:53pm On Jun 19, 2025
Oga Israel na Israel na you know Wetin you de findoooo cool
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by adebowales: 6:53pm On Jun 19, 2025
This new isreal is fake, this war has exposed them, the chosen people are running back to Poland and different countries as we speak while Palestinians despite the sufferings chooses to die on their land

Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by HEAVEN4444: 6:53pm On Jun 19, 2025
Well there are 12 tribes. Yes they are one of the 12. Igbo is also one of the 12. Igbo is tribe of gad through Eri. Yoruba is tribe of Joseph. African americans are tribe of Judah
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Enskynelson(m): 6:54pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
This reason is weak to dispute his claim. Tourism is simply business and nothing more. This does not mean I support his claim. But your answer in my opinion is weak.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by greggng: 6:54pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
The question of whether the current State of Israel is the same as the biblical Israel is complex and depends on interpretation. Here are some perspectives [1][2]:
- *Historical Continuity*: Some believe that the modern State of Israel is a continuation of the ancient Israelite kingdom, citing historical and cultural ties.
- *Theological Perspective*: From a religious standpoint, some Jews and Christians see the modern State of Israel as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy, while others interpret the biblical Israel as a spiritual or future entity.
- *Critical Scholarship*: Many scholars argue that the modern State of Israel is not a direct continuation of the biblical Israel, citing differences in geography, population, and cultural context.

The relationship between the current State of Israel and biblical Israel is a matter of ongoing debate among historians, theologians, and scholars.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by ogascomax: 6:55pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
The Jews did not began rejecting Christianity yesterday. They killed Jesus and all is disciples. So rejecting Christians is not the reason you will say they are not the same race. They are the children of the Abraham and the prophets.
Is like you are asking if the Egyptians are the same, or Greece, or Romans etc. They are the same race. You aren't a Christian so you wouldn't have said they are not. You need to be born again.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Broveens42(m): 6:55pm On Jun 19, 2025
LadyExcellency:
Yes. The Apostles asked when Israel would be restored, and Jesus answered them. Jews will always come back to rebuild the city.

Acts 1:6-7 KJV
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? [7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Ezra 4:12 CSB
Let it be known to the king that the Jews who came from you have returned to us at Jerusalem. They are rebuilding that rebellious and evil city, finishing its walls, and repairing its foundations.
The verse you read, doesn't show they are the real Israelites of your good book.

It succinctly inquired when the nation with a ruler/king will be restored, not a nation with a prime minister and president.

Even Saudi Arabia will fit into that script you read out because of their monarchial system
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Apcshit: 6:55pm On Jun 19, 2025
Israel bans DNA tests to prevent children finding out their mothers lied about their paternity. Many people believe they are Jewish, but have no Jewish DNA.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by histemple: 6:56pm On Jun 19, 2025
Everything you read in the Bible only existed inside the Bible. None was ever real. You will only end up getting more confused if you try to make any sense out of it.

That Jonah lived inside fish for 3 days
That Moses divided the sea with rod
That a snake spoke to Eve.
That a virgin became pregnant without sex
That the same powerful God asked Jesus's parents to runaway from Herold who is a human being.
That Daniel killed a lion with bare hands
That Shedrack, Meshack and Abednego were thrown into the fire and they weren't burnt.
That the world was once destroyed by flood
That Jesus walked on the water
etc.

Just ask yourself why hasn't those miracles been repeated?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Enskynelson(m): 6:58pm On Jun 19, 2025
aribisala0:
Handed out where, how ? On a palliative queue? To whom?

Some human beings wrote these books Bible , Quran and claimed they are the word of God.

They then imposed this on their populations by force for centuries killing anyone who disagreed and we are here today in Nigeria saying they are the word of God

A God that had nothing to do with black African people
Your response has taken a new dimension from the question. It has rather tried to invalidate the question asked.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Pauladex(m): 6:59pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
since you have convinced yourself who am I to stop you.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by bewla(m): 7:00pm On Jun 19, 2025
Jughead29:
First of all what is Christianity?

People who live a Christlike life ok

Now, The President himself reads Bible most times on live broadcasting. He didn't read Quran or any other book. They go to Church, not mosque or any other place
They worship on Sundays, Not Fridays

So what makes you think they are not Christians just because they are peace-loving people who tolerate Islam freely, something that no Islamic country will allow
Boom
This all made up first they Jews only warship in synagogue

Not church
you have Catholic in Jerusalem which are the Italians

Most Jews that are pure Jews even opposed this war
Only European Jews and German created Jews that want war

They don't like Christian at all
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by ogascomax: 7:01pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
It's a massive ignorance and deception mixed with deceit to argue or tell yourself that they are not the same race. This are the children of Abraham and the prophets that the Bible talked about.
Why don't people ask if the Egyptians, Persian (Iran), Syria, Greece, Roman etc are the same that exist thousands of years ago.
God said they will be my people forever. The time of the Jews will come again. Since they rejected Christ Jesus, Jesus said now salvation will go to the Gentiles. Their time will come after the rapture of the Church and the seven years of tribulation.
By then the church age would have been over.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Broveens42(m): 7:01pm On Jun 19, 2025
histemple:
Everything you read in the Bible only existed inside the Bible. None was ever real. You will only end up getting more confused if you try to make any sense out of it.

That Jonah lived inside fish for 3 days
That Moses divided the sea with rod
That a snake spoke to Eve.
That a virgin became pregnant without sex
That the same powerful God asked Jesus's parents to runaway from Herold who is a human being.
That Daniel killed a lion with bare hands
That Shedrack, Meshack and Abednego were thrown into the fire and they weren't burnt.
That the world was once destroyed by flood
That Jesus walked on the water
etc.

Just ask yourself why hasn't those miracles been repeated?
There's no difference between 'snake-eve' story and our igbo folktales like; tortoise marrying the kings daughter grin

At the end, it's all about lessons for a culture
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