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Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Jughead29: 7:02pm On Jun 19, 2025
As long as they are not against us Christianity, they are for us (Mark 9:38-40)

bewla:
Boom
This all made up first they Jews only warship in synagogue

Not church
you have Catholic in Jerusalem which are the Italians

Most Jews that are pure Jews even opposed this war
Only European Jews and German created Jews that want war

They don't like Christian at all
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by histemple:
aribisala0:
Handed out where, how ? On a palliative queue? To whom?

Some human beings wrote these books Bible , Quran and claimed they are the word of God.

They then imposed this on their populations by force for centuries killing anyone who disagreed and we are here today in Nigeria saying they are the word of God

A God that had nothing to do with black African people
Just like these charlatans and scammers claiming that God told them things.

God never told anybody to write any of the religious books. Otherwise, how could there have been contradictions in their account of God, creation and other stories therein?

Why is the Christian God different from the Muslim, Hindi etc?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by MrSly(m): 7:05pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
A political provolamyion has no influence on people's identity.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by omoredia: 7:05pm On Jun 19, 2025
Jews and Christians have no problems with eachother.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Osanoghodua1: 7:05pm On Jun 19, 2025
Yes, it's the same Israel. They were exiled by the Roman Empire from the holy land for over 2,000 years they were scattered abroad till date they are still scattered abroad but if you check Ezekiel 37 about the Valley the valley of the dry bones, God was referring to the Jews scattered abroad for over 2,000yrs without any hope of ever returning to the Holy land. But after Adolf Hitler killed over 6M of them, they Started running home to form a mighty army that we have today. God is using sickle to harvest them home. Their language, culture and way of worship is intact nothing has changed for over 2,000yrs. No other tribe can survive such anymore.

Tell me the children born in Nigeria and brought up here can't even speak their mother's tongue. Israel is a miracle, she is beyond wonders.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by bewla(m): 7:06pm On Jun 19, 2025
Jughead29:
As long as they are not against us Christianity, they are for us (Mark 9:38-40)
they hate you a lot
If. You see any one that have ever gone to Israel ask thy do hate Christians because they fill you immortalized Jesus to be God
They see it like it's cancer
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by kay29000(m): 7:07pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
That's solely for tourism money. They don't even believe in Jesus, they just do all that pilgrimage stuff for the tourism money it brings them. I once watched a video of a YouTuber walking around Tel Aviv, Israel asking people if they believed in Jesus, and majority said no. Some almost laughed at at the YouTuber asking them the question. The OP is right. Most Nigerian Christians are ignorant of this.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by franchasofficia:
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Yes they are the same Jews, the same Israel.


Jewish people that occupy present day Israel have been conquered by many world powers at various times, the last was Britain that conquered the Jewish land known then as Jerusalem. Roman empire also conquered Jerusalem twice, and later Ottoman empire conquered Jerusalem and Jews ran away and scattered around the world in search of safety, that was how many Jews migrated to Europe and later Britain conquered Jerusalem around 1917 and ruled it for decades.


When Britain wanted to leave Jerusalem present day Israel, they and US decided to return the Jews scattered around the world back to their ancestral land in Jerusalem and that led to the proclamation of Israel as a sovereign state at the end of world war II, and it was mostly because of US that saw what Jews in Europe passed through in the hands of Nazis and other antisemitic Europeans. So US and their allies decided that it is time to resettle Jews back to their ancestral land in Jerusalem, present day Israel.


The time Jerusalem was conquered and Jews were scattered, Arabs took over most of their lands, so when US and Britain returned Jews back to their land in today Jerusalem, Arabs started screaming fowl play that it's not Jewish land but it is their ancestral land where they were conquered and scattered by various world powers and empires.


It's just like how Fulani herdsmen land grabbers today are eliminating Benue and Plateau people, banishing them from their ancestral lands in today middlebelt.

If after centuries, a powerful leader who have empathy and compassion for Benue people decides to return all Tiv and Birom people conquered today by Fulani militants back to their ancestral lands, the Fulani generation living in that land by then will claim it's not Tiv people's ancestral land that the land belongs to their Fulani ancestors whereas it's not true, that's what's happening between Israel and Arabs today.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aswani(m): 7:17pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
Of course not. What has happened in Palestine is like South Africa expelling all Afrikaners and then the US forcing Holland to clear about a quarter of their country to resettle them.

Both settlers and indigenous people will never see peace for a very long time.

By the way, these same prosecuted European Jews that were dumped in Palestine and that had Palestine lands cleared and people displaced for them, Ethiopia was the original choice that the Allies had suggested for them to start their nation.

I bet Ethiopia and surrounding countries are breathing a huge sigh of relief.

Interesting that US and UK didn't find a place for the prosecuted Jews within their own countries.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 7:18pm On Jun 19, 2025
miketayo:
It doesn't matter if you hate or love other religions. Just allow people live their lives without imposing your beliefs on them. it's not difficult.
Two questions

What is my BELIEF

How have I tried to impose my Belief on anyone on this thread

Please give a direct response without beating about the bush
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by wiseoneking: 7:19pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
More Muslims in Israel are not Jews but Palestinians who were there when Jews took over the land in 1948. Jews are Jews while Palestinians are Muslims. Now there are MORE CHRISTIANS IN PALESTINE THAN IN ISRAEL.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jun 19, 2025
Kushites:
What bloodline?

What does that even mean?

My friend will you go away from here.
grin

Abeg I no fit laugh
😂😂😂

Not enough original content
Please take a moment to write a quality post with at least 40 characters.
This will make the forum more interesting for everyone.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by wallarwallar(m): 7:23pm On Jun 19, 2025
Elyonboy:
It's not the same. The present Israel is nothing but a Western creation. It has nothing to do with the biblical Israel.
And where is the biblical loreal located please tell us
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by TheStranger: 7:23pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
They hate Christians and Christianity but they don't kill Christians in the name of their religion, they don't force Christians to convert to Judaism
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by PDPGuy: 7:23pm On Jun 19, 2025
NO

This Israel is nothing but the creation of the Rothschilds family, the UN, UK and the U.S.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by NassBoy(m): 7:26pm On Jun 19, 2025
wiseoneking:
More Muslims in Israel are not Jews but Palestinians who were there when Jews took over the land in 1948. Jews are Jews while Palestinians are Muslims. Now there are MORE CHRISTIANS IN PALESTINE THAN IN ISRAEL.
Recall you asked for a DM.

How was your day Sir?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Gfrey6(m): 7:28pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
The statement you've provided contains several inaccuracies and can be considered problematic due to its generalizations and misinformation. Here's a clearer and more accurate overview:

1. Ignorance about Jews among Africans: It’s incorrect and unfair to generalize that many Africans are ignorant about Jews. Knowledge and awareness vary widely across individuals and communities.

2. **Differences between Judaism and Christianity:** Judaism and Christianity are distinct religions. Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people, and Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

3. **Relations between Jews, Christians, and Muslims:** While historical tensions and conflicts have existed in certain contexts, it is incorrect to state that "the Jews hate both Christians and Muslims" universally. Relations and attitudes vary among individuals and communities.

4. **Judaism's view of Christianity:** The claim that Jews consider Christianity the "most downgraded religion" is an oversimplification and not accurate. Religious views are diverse and complex.

5. **Religious demographics in Israel:** According to recent data, Israel's population is approximately 75% Jewish, about 20% Muslim, and less than 2% Christian. There are indeed more Muslims than Christians in Israel.

6. Mosques and churches in Israel: There are more mosques than churches in Israel due to the larger Muslim population.

7. Christians seeing Jews as their gods: This is false. Christianity and Judaism have different religious beliefs, and Christians do not see Jews as their gods.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by jeff1607(m): 7:29pm On Jun 19, 2025
LadyExcellency:
Stop spreading fålsęhood out of ignōrānce. Every Christian knows it's the fulfilment of Biblical prophecies.

Yes, they are the same. God removed them and also brought them back according to the prophecies in the Scriptures.
They aren't the same even their DNA says otherwise and doesn't match extensively with the original Israelites and yes they dislike Christianity, they only smile when tourists come visiting the old sites ,they still believe the Messiah is yet to come,they practice all of the old testament, the family of Levi can't even be found amongst the Israelites as they still wield the tabernacle

If you have ever worked alongside the Jews you would understand how they reason and their disdain towards those who practice Christianity
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Jughead29: 7:34pm On Jun 19, 2025
We like that because that's your perspective, we still love Israel and we Christians are Jew's and Israelite okay?

Hope you know that Mecca also hate you Nigerian Muslims ,reason why some were thrown out this year?

bewla:
they hate you a lot
If. You see any one that have ever gone to Israel ask thy do hate Christians because they fill you immortalized Jesus to be God
They see it like it's cancer
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by OriOko88(m): 7:34pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Go home and be spoon-feeding ur kids this needless story
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by tctrills: 7:34pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Your history is twisted.
The Jews have suffered incredibly in the hands of both christian and Muslim nations.
Again, being a Christian, you have far more freedom to practice your religion in Israel than in Egypt, Saudi Arabia or even many parts of northern Nigeria.
In Iran, being a Christian is a crime, in Israel, there is freedom of believe.
Please do some research before writing. No excuse for ignorance.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by motymop: 7:35pm On Jun 19, 2025
Obrigardo:
I'm asking a legitimate question
Is the state of Israel founded in 1948 still the same Israel in the Bible?
No sir they are not the same.

The present is isreal is a British creation

Majority of these people who claim they are Jewish are from eastern Europe ( Poland and Russia) and they speak Yiddish., they are convert
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by AfDapone: 7:35pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion.Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Plus including the fact that the Jews themselves off Jesus, the Messiah of us Christians.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by PepeXKermit: 7:37pm On Jun 19, 2025
LordBiden:
The jews hate Christians?

But same jews have been welcoming thousands of Christians yearly,taking them round ancient historical sites like where jesus was born.

Abeg talk another thing.
you do not know anything about the Jews. They hate christianity and anything that has to do with recognizing Jesus Christ as the messiah. if you do not know this fact, you may be living in a bubble!
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by tctrills: 7:37pm On Jun 19, 2025
motymop:
No sir they are not the same.

The present is isreal is a British creation

Majority of these people who claim they are Jewish are from eastern Europe ( Poland and Russia) and they speak Yiddish., they are convert
Again, you are wrong. The Jews from eastern Europe are the minority not majority. More Jews came from Asia and northern Africa
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by tctrills: 7:38pm On Jun 19, 2025
PepeXKermit:
you do not know anything about the Jews. They hate christianity and anything that has to do with recognizing Jesus Christ as the messiah. if you do not know this fact, you may be living in a bubble!
When was the last time Jews attacked someone because he was a Christian? Send me the link.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Chickensoup: 7:38pm On Jun 19, 2025
Kingdom of Israel has been there before Christ BC however were conquered multiple times and gained independence.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by werisetogether(m): 7:39pm On Jun 19, 2025
360degreess:
It is not.You see many Africans are ignorant about the Jews.The Jews practice Judaism as their religion and it is not the same as Christianity.The Jews hate both Christians and Muslims.Infact, they consider Christianity as the most downgraded religion Do you know that there are far more Muslims in Israel than Christians?,also there are far more mosques in Israel than there are churches?. But most Christians are not aware that is why they see Jews as their gods.
Do you mind sharing any (written) resource to back up these claims?

Abeg no videos...
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by OriOko88(m): 7:39pm On Jun 19, 2025
Elyonboy:
It's not the same. The present Israel is nothing but a Western creation. It has nothing to do with the biblical Israel.
Wat bullcrab are u saying. We are talking about the location of the present day Israel. If it was the same biblical Israel. And of course it is. The Jews were dispersed by the islamists after the crusade
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