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Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Abbeytoy(op): 7:33pm On Jun 19, 2025
In a layman’s term, can anyone please explain to me what’s going on between Israel and Iran and how it concerns USA?

I want in details on how this war started before it escalated to this.

In your own view, who’s guilty and why?

Thanks and God bless you as you do so.

Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by ohigus(m): 7:40pm On Jun 19, 2025
For my own POV, America have been pushing Isreal PM to carry out their dirty work, which most the Israelite don't want but no option as d PM have all d power. Since this war started there have been series of protest in Israel but d West won't let d world see that.

I come in peace cool
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by ohigus(m): 7:47pm On Jun 19, 2025
Below is something I think might help too, mind u it's copy n paste grin cool


CNN

Since Israel began its concerted attack on Iran, calls for regime change have grown louder, with US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raising the possibility of targeting Tehran’s all-powerful leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Many Iranians have firsthand experience with the United States enforcing a regime change in their country.

Here’s what happened:
Oil fields: In 1953, the US helped stage a coup to overthrow Iran’s democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh.

He had pledged to nationalize the country’s oil fields – a move the US and Great Britain saw as a serious blow, given their dependence on oil from the Middle East.

Height of the Cold War: The move to nationalize was seen as popular in Iran and a victory for the then-USSR.

Strengthen Shah rule: The coup’s goal was to support Iran’s monarch, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, to rule as Shah of Iran, and appoint a new prime minister, Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi.

The coup: Before the coup, the CIA, along with the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), helped foment anti-Mossadegh fervor using propaganda. In 1953, the CIA and SIS helped pull pro-Shah forces together and organized large protests against Mossadegh, which were soon joined by the army.

US cash: To provide Zahedi, the country’s new prime minister, with some stability, the CIA covertly made $5,000,000 available within two days of him taking power, documents showed.

US acknowledgement: In 2013, declassified CIA documents were released, confirming the agency’s involvement for the first time. But the US role was known: Former President Barack Obama acknowledged involvement in the coup in 2009.

It backfired: After toppling Mossadegh, the US strengthened its support for Pahlavi to rule as Shah. Iranians resented the foreign interference, fueling anti-American sentiment in the country for decades.

Islamic Revolution: The Shah became a close ally of the US. But in the late 1970s, millions of Iranians took to the streets against his regime, which they viewed as corrupt and illegitimate. Secular protesters opposed his authoritarianism, while Islamist protesters opposed his modernization agenda.

The Shah was toppled in the 1979 Islamic revolution, which ended the country’s Western-backed monarchy and ushered in the start of the Islamic Republic and clerical rule.
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Coder2Client(m): 7:52pm On Jun 19, 2025
Abbeytoy:
In a layman’s term, can anyone please explain to me what’s going on between Israel and Iran and how it concerns USA?

I want in details on how this war started before it escalated to this.

In your own view, who’s guilty and why?

Thanks and God bless you as you do so.
The question should be what's the beef between islam and Israel?

An average jew is hated by muslims. Allah hates jews. He wants them killed and annihilated. In fact, in quran Allah ordered muslims to not take jews and Christians as ally, because jews and Christians are ally of each other.

What you see happening to Israel these days is a race of who will first annihilate jews on planet earth before they face Christians.

But as it stands now, Israel is still standing tall.

Now, back to the main thing.

Iran has been fighting proxy wars with Israel for quite sometimes now using hamas, houthis etc. Iran sponsors all these wars. What you saw Israel did a few days ago is called preemptive strike against Iran.
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Abbeytoy(op): 8:09pm On Jun 19, 2025
ohigus:
For my own POV, America have been pushing Isreal PM to carry out their dirty work, which most the Israelite don't want but no option as d PM have all d power. Since this war started there have been series of protest in Israel but d West won't let d world see that.

I come in peace cool
Why is the American pushing Israeli, what did Iran do to Amera?
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Abbeytoy(op): 8:17pm On Jun 19, 2025
ohigus:
Below is something I think might help too, mind u it's copy n paste grin cool


CNN

Since Israel began its concerted attack on Iran, calls for regime change have grown louder, with US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raising the possibility of targeting Tehran’s all-powerful leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Many Iranians have firsthand experience with the United States enforcing a regime change in their country.

Here’s what happened:
Oil fields: In 1953, the US helped stage a coup to overthrow Iran’s democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh.

He had pledged to nationalize the country’s oil fields – a move the US and Great Britain saw as a serious blow, given their dependence on oil from the Middle East.

Height of the Cold War: The move to nationalize was seen as popular in Iran and a victory for the then-USSR.

Strengthen Shah rule: The coup’s goal was to support Iran’s monarch, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, to rule as Shah of Iran, and appoint a new prime minister, Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi.

The coup: Before the coup, the CIA, along with the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), helped foment anti-Mossadegh fervor using propaganda. In 1953, the CIA and SIS helped pull pro-Shah forces together and organized large protests against Mossadegh, which were soon joined by the army.

US cash: To provide Zahedi, the country’s new prime minister, with some stability, the CIA covertly made $5,000,000 available within two days of him taking power, documents showed.

US acknowledgement: In 2013, declassified CIA documents were released, confirming the agency’s involvement for the first time. But the US role was known: Former President Barack Obama acknowledged involvement in the coup in 2009.

It backfired: After toppling Mossadegh, the US strengthened its support for Pahlavi to rule as Shah. Iranians resented the foreign interference, fueling anti-American sentiment in the country for decades.

Islamic Revolution: The Shah became a close ally of the US. But in the late 1970s, millions of Iranians took to the streets against his regime, which they viewed as corrupt and illegitimate. Secular protesters opposed his authoritarianism, while Islamist protesters opposed his modernization agenda.

The Shah was toppled in the 1979 Islamic revolution, which ended the country’s Western-backed monarchy and ushered in the start of the Islamic Republic and clerical rule.
In excess, USA want to control their economy most especially the oil?

Then, how did them become terrorist and Watin concern isreal in this?

Again, why did Israel bomb them last week or so?
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Abbeytoy(op): 8:19pm On Jun 19, 2025
Coder2Client:
The question should be what's the beef between islam and Israel?


An average jew is hated by muslims. Allah hates jews. He wants them killed and annihilated. In fact, in quran Allah ordered muslims to not take jews and Christians as ally, because jews and Christians are ally of each other.

What you see happening to Israel these days is a race of who will first annihilate jews on planet earth before they face Christians.

But as it stands now, Israel is still standing tall.

Now, back to the main thing.

Iran has been fighting proxy wars with Israel for quite sometimes now using hamas, houthis etc. Iran sponsors all these wars. What you saw Israel did a few days ago is called preemptive strike against Iran.
I think it’s better better to share the background story.

I can’t understand much about what you wrote
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by advanceDNA: 8:58pm On Jun 19, 2025
Abbeytoy:
Why is the American pushing Israeli, what did Iran do to Amera?
Go back to September 11 bombing of world trade center, when America was was brought to her knees....Iran was at the back pulling strings

Since that time US has made everything happening in any other country their business more than before....including Iran trying to climb the world power ladder

All of this is about being armed with Nukes...if Iran has nukes, they'll start flexing muscles like Russia .....and United states can't have it.
..it's the same reason they cut of Iran from the oil market for years, to prevent them from having plenty money .......because plenty money= higher defence budget...
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by Abbeytoy(op): 9:44pm On Jun 19, 2025
advanceDNA:
Go back to September 11 bombing of world trade center, when America was was brought to her knees....Iran was at the back pulling strings

Since that time US has made everything happening in any other country their business more than before....including Iran trying to climb the world power ladder

All of this is about being armed with Nukes...if Iran has nukes, they'll start flexing muscles like Russia .....and United states can't have it.
..it's the same reason they cut of Iran from the oil market for years, to prevent them from having plenty money .......because plenty money= higher defence budget...
So this all about seniority and flexing of power for everyone?
Re: Can Anyone Help Me To Understand This? by advanceDNA: 10:09pm On Jun 19, 2025
Abbeytoy:
So this all about seniority and flexing of power for everyone?
Of course ...if u have fire power ....everyone is afraid to confront you.....it's a strategy to stay secured

Cant u see Russia and USA can't confront each other for the same reasons.....

Iran is a nation that can start nuking anybody in name of Allah....no one is allowing them have nukes...even their fellow Arab nations don't want them to have nukes
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