₦airaland Forum

uuzba:
That Guinea one, I don't get it.
Did their eye bend or what?
Guinea country and Gulf of Guinea are not in the same place.
Wetin concern Guinea with Gulf of Guinea?
If it's according to where water reach, na we, Nigeria, suppose dey answer the name Guinea.

In early 1959, the Sudanese Republic and Senegal formed the Federation of Mali. On March 31, 1960, France agreed to grant the Federation of Mali full independence. On June 20, 1960, the Federation of Mali became an independent nation, with Modibo Keïta as its first president.

ednut1:
before they came africans were doing it to each other. Arabs also did it to North Africa . Its human nature . Benin empire lorded over many tribes, oyo lorded and taxed tribes like bariba, dahomey, nupe, etc. sokoto empire same. Kanuri empire same. Songhai same. No one was a saint

Love800:
They are more civilized than us back then. They were ahead of us.
Is not their fault!

But they realise everything, and thought about stopping slave-trade and granting us independence. Very cool of dem!

What have your African leaders done since with the power the white man left for dem, especially Nigeria!

tctrills:
What are you talking about bro. North Africa was colonized by the Arabs before the British and french did the same. Do you know the meaning of colonization? They forced their language, culture and religion on the people.
Up until today the original Berber people are seen as inferior to the Arabs in Morocco and Algeria.
Click on the link below to learn more.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2019/07/morocco-un-expert-urges-action-anti-discrimination-and-racial-equality

Same in Sudan, the Arabs claim superiority over the blacks till tomorrow.
So please do your research before blaming whites for all your troubles.
Thanks.

Yvngex:
Lol

Wait, do you think and believe the white just decided to give African countries independence without anything in return 🤔

With what's happening today, it's so obvious that they are still in control even if after giving us independence.

Love800:
Okay.

No problem.

Nice conversing with you.

ednut1:
before they came africans were doing it to each other. Arabs also did it to North Africa . Its human nature . Benin empire lorded over many tribes, oyo lorded and taxed tribes like bariba, dahomey, nupe, etc. sokoto empire same. Kanuri empire same. Songhai same. No one was a saint

musicwriter:
People who our ancestors had nothing in common with, came thousands of miles from ice cold Europe to hurt your parents, and 200 years later, you're giving them the benefit of doubt for the crimes they committed against you!!

Yet, the people you're excusing have age long foes that arose from their own historical experiences.

My only problem right now is that people like you and the people who liked your comment are mostly in charge of running the African continent.

You all will go on to become ministers, governors, and presidents in future on the African continent, and that's why we have no way of saving ourselves because you're merely an African spokesperson for our adversary. That's why we remain this way.

ednut1:
britain itself was ruled by the romans for over 300 years. They were attacked and ruled constantly by the vikings. China was humiliated / attacked by the western powers for over 200 years today they are on top. Stop dwelling on the past and move forward. Many of the technology today are open source japan and china were able to copy and do theirs. African countries cant even produce toothpick and you are here massaging your ego. You have useless leaders and useless followers who they bribe with 1k and cups of rice to buy votes.

Using the same internet created by western powers to type 🤡😂

musicwriter:
You're deviating from the basis of my argument.

I only replied you because you have no idea that relationship between countries are historical, and you maintain it! What a shame?!

Example, and it's interesting you mentioned China and Japan, Britain and Rome in one sentence.

For your information, China and Japan don't have good relationship. Because both countries fought bitter wars, and that war has defined how they relate to each other today. It's seen as a sabotage for a Chinese and Japanese to marry each other. It carries a severe stigma in both countries.

But an African like you doesn't know how you should relate to your adversaries, in fact, you don't even know that you have adversaries.

Britain and Italy and the Vatican don't maintain good relationships for the same reason. Their experience with Rome defined their relationship. But, again, you an African is trained to love your enemy.

I am the most pro-science African alive, have written about the need for us to learn science. But you're probably waiting for the West to "transfer" scientific knowledge to you, even when you hear all the time that they jail their own citizens for revealing their new technological designs to other nations.

ednut1:
prior to Europeans coming we never regarded ourselves as one. Spare me the pan African BS. Sokoto empire for example had over 2m slaves from neighbouring tribes like Yoruba, igala, tiv, junkun. So me as a Yoruba man should see them as saints because they have black skin like me? . The white man is not my adversary, my fellow black are more of an adversary to me than them.


King Ghezo took lots of Yoruba slaves from Ketu and abeokuta axis. When the Abeokuta people finally killed him his son sacrificed over 800 slaves mostly Yoruba/anago. But i should see them as saints and hate white man 🤣🤣🤡

musicwriter:
Slavery existed in all parts of the world (it was worst in Europe) as a result of social stratification which has society naturally classed as it is still classed today worldwide.

But it was never a "trade" until your white masters exploited the Africans, the native Americans, Indians, etc and turned it to a trade. Prior to that, slaves were not gotten by "trading" but were prisoners of war.

Yet, depending on the time period you quoted, the weapons for waging the wars that turned your ancestors to slaves in Sokoto were supplied by your darling white people. They probably also supplied weapons to your ancestors in South Nigeria at the same time, thereby pitting the two regions to fight against one another- their real goal was to secure more prisoners of war. But you don't know anything about that part.

Yes, you have a right to be angered if one part of Africa wronged your ancestors in the past. Indeed, that's the logic behind my first comment.

But you're being terribly very naive for exonerating white people who committed a much bigger crime against the African continent. The event you narrated pales in comparison to the crimes committed by white people on the African continent. Do you know that machine gun was invented just to defeat Africa?

Of course, you've been taught a lie to believe that Britain, the greatest slave trading nation was the one turning back a slave ship, yet they were the last country to give up the slave trade.

France had freed blacks in Saint Domingo (now called Haiti) since about 1783 but Britain and Spain said that over their dead body shall black people be freed. Then, they went back to take Haiti from France! But that's the country you've been indoctrinated to believe they were turning back a slave ship! A country that was still in the slave trade till about 1883- that's 100 years after France set blacks free.

We're talking about people who supplied weapons to Africans from West to southern Africa for us to fight against ourselves so they may get their slaves. If you knew the magnitude of crime committed against you by white people, you'll wail instead

ednut1:
prior to Europeans coming we never regarded ourselves as one. Spare me the pan African BS. Sokoto empire for example had over 2m slaves from neighbouring tribes like Yoruba, igala, tiv, junkun. So me as a Yoruba man should see them as saints because they have black skin like me? . The white man is not my adversary, my fellow black are more of an adversary to me than them.


King Ghezo took lots of Yoruba slaves from Ketu and abeokuta axis. When the Abeokuta people finally killed him his son sacrificed over 800 slaves mostly Yoruba/anago. But i should see them as saints and hate white man 🤣🤣🤡

hotplate:
You are using Information from a White Man's archive to judge .... Have they have had anything good to say about black people?

ednut1:
arab slave trade was more brutal than the white slave trade in Africa. Male slaves were castrated by the arab and usually died within 2-4 years. Stop coming here to quote fake history abeg. The same white man today has fighter jets and atomic weapons while we have nothing but expired aircrafts and ak 47 from them. If they wish they can wipe out the whole Africa and nothing will happen. Instead of facing real issues and moving forward you are crying about slavery that happened over 200-500 years ago .

tctrills:
So let me educate you.

The Arab colonization of North Africa began with military conquests in the 7th century, notably under the Rashidun and Umayyad Caliphates. These conquests, starting with Egypt and expanding into the Maghreb (Northwest Africa), led to the establishment of Arab rule and the spread of Islam and the Arabic language. While initially facing resistance from Berber populations and the Byzantine Empire, Arab forces eventually gained control of much of the region.

You are welcome.

DomPerignon:
Biafra :

Originally Bight of Mafra but abbreviated on old Portogesse maps as Bi. Mafra which over the years became known as Biafra.

Biafra refers to the adjourning coastal waters off the coast of SE Nigeria to Cameroun but is now renamed Bight of Guinea.

The word Mafra refers to an old Portogesse slaving anchor port in Cameroun and is originally from a major slaving port in Portugal.

The Portogesse named most of their ports of call along the western African coastline down to present day Angola after cities, towns in their home country.

From Porto Novo in Benin, Lagos in Nigeria down to Ferdinand Po and Sao Tome and Principe . Mafra was another coastal town in present day Cameroun that was also named after another Portogesse port city that once served as a major slaving hub.

So before you castigate the name : Nigeria, know that your Biafra was named after the relic of Marrano Jewish Portogesse slavers .

DomPerignon:
What I can't seem to understand is how you Zionists can't reconcile that colonialism was just a prelude to internationalism and all major imperial expeditions and conquests were funded by Jewish bankers and they operated the new colonies under corporatism , a prime example being the Royal Dutch Company , the Royal West Indies Company and the Royal Niger Company.

All these corporations secured charters to exploit newly conquered territory under the banners of European powers but were private companies owned by Jewish bankers and merchants.

You can't talk of European Imperialism without mentioning Jewish merchants and Bankers who financed and ran them and the fallout of that colonial legacy are the international multinational corporations of today which under Jewish WEF are promoting a replacement of current independent self governing nations back to corporatist ownership.

When I say you guys do not know a damb thing of this world and how it operates , you will all start ranting.

tctrills:
What are you talking about bro. North Africa was colonized by the Arabs before the British and french did the same. Do you know the meaning of colonization? They forced their language, culture and religion on the people.
Up until today the original Berber people are seen as inferior to the Arabs in Morocco and Algeria.

Click on the link below to learn more.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2019/07/morocco-un-expert-urges-action-anti-discrimination-and-racial-equality

Same in Sudan, the Arabs claim superiority over the blacks till tomorrow.
So please do your research before blaming whites for all your troubles.
Thanks.

musicwriter:
Slavery existed in all parts of the world (it was worst in Europe) as a result of social stratification which has society naturally classed as it is still classed today worldwide.

But it was never a "trade" until your white masters exploited the Africans, the native Americans, Indians, etc and turned it to a trade. Prior to that, slaves were not gotten by "trading" but were prisoners of war.

Yet, depending on the time period you quoted, the weapons for waging the wars that turned your ancestors to slaves in Sokoto were supplied by your darling white people. They probably also supplied weapons to your ancestors in South Nigeria at the same time, thereby pitting the two regions to fight against one another- their real goal was to secure more prisoners of war. But you don't know anything about that part.

Yes, you have a right to be angered if one part of Africa wronged your ancestors in the past. Indeed, that's the logic behind my first comment.

But you're being terribly very naive for exonerating white people who committed a much bigger crime against the African continent. The event you narrated pales in comparison to the crimes committed by white people on the African continent. Do you know that machine gun was invented just to defeat Africa?

Of course, you've been taught a lie to believe that Britain, the greatest slave trading nation was the one turning back a slave ship, yet they were the last country to give up the slave trade.

France had freed blacks in Saint Domingo (now called Haiti) since about 1783 but Britain and Spain said that over their dead body shall black people be freed. Then, they went back to take Haiti from France! But that's the country you've been indoctrinated to believe they were turning back a slave ship! A country that was still in the slave trade till about 1883- that's 100 years after France set blacks free.

We're talking about people who supplied weapons to Africans from West to southern Africa for us to fight against ourselves so they may get their slaves. If you knew the magnitude of crime committed against you by white people, you'll wail instead

Konquest:
Very well said. The Arabs historically moved in waves (starting from after Muhammad the Islamic founder died) from the Arabian Peninsula right into North and North-East Africa to conquer the indigenous folks there.

Konquest:
I like the way you structured your perspectives on the subject matter of you convo with Ed.

However, the French plantation owners did NOT free enslaved Africans in Haiti as of the 1783 you referenced and it took the historically famous Haitian Revolution in Haiti for the Africans who were repressed and were more than the white French taskmaster and plantation owners.

On the contrary, Britain's strong influence from early 1800s helped to abolish the slave, end the triangle trade between Africa, the Carribean or North/South America, and Europe, and placed several British Navy Squadrons to patrol the coast of West Africa intercepting slave ships and setting the human cargoes free in Sierra Leone leading to just over 100,000 Africans of different ethnic groups bring rescued from slave schooners (Such as the great linguist and Anglican Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther who was a direct descendant of the Emperor or Alaafin Abiodun of the Oyo Empire who reigned in the late 1700s.

musicwriter:
If you have ever seen anything historical written by me, better accept it as the truth instead of depending on hear-say. I know issues of African history and black history in general more than anybody you'll ever come into contact with.

You have to study history enough to understand the politics of history and that just as you have propaganda news, historical accounts, especially from Britain is also full of propaganda. Britain has taught lies to black people!! You've been taught a lie!! Fortunately, the historical facts are out there as I stated earlier and will show again.

Napoleon Bonaparte only went back to Haiti because Britain and Spain said that if he can't enslave black people in Haiti anymore, then they'll take Hati from him. Still, even when he went back, Haiti was freed earlier than any British plantation.

Attached is a simple Google search of the matter. Go to Google and put "when did France free slaves in Haiti" and "When did Britain abolish slavery"