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Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by EXPRESSSMAN(m): 11:56am On Jun 21, 2025
Goosethetruth:
Lol...🫤
The fact that the Bible is your point of reference in this discussion makes me realise there is no need for me to engage you any further in this discussion.
Even Benjamin Netanyahu would never point to the Bible as his point of reference in the present day conflict. However you are free to make the Bible your point of reference.
My sincere advise to you is that you do research on these issues. Your first assignment should be to find out the origin of the Bible itself.
Lol.....😊
You are the one contradicting yourself. You cannot talk of Israel without making refrence to the Bible. The Isrealities are also known as the Bible nation. Whether you believe the Bible or not does not make any difference.
You said the present Isreal is not linked to the biblical Israel. And I asked you whether the whole Jews died at a point without offsprings and you are talking of another thing instead of answering the question.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by EXPRESSSMAN(m): 12:11pm On Jun 21, 2025
histemple:
Well, I am already a senior citizen. And by my training, I operate based on facts and verifiable evidence.

And I find your argument about the evolution of mankind and the world, quite strange. I don't know your religion. But as a Christian, the Bible reminded us that God cannot change. The same yesterday, today and forever.
Good to know that you're a senior citizen. As a senior, you should know that man do not understand 1/10 of the world and what life is all about. You're "verifiable evidence" is very limited. It cannot explain life and the things happening in it. I did not say that you should believe the Bible but I say take a look at your environment and the things around you and use it to project 1000 or 1 million years to come or the ones that had past.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Goosethetruth(m): 3:53pm On Jun 21, 2025
EXPRESSSMAN:
You are the one contradicting yourself. You cannot talk of Israel without making refrence to the Bible. The Isrealities are also known as the Bible nation. Whether you believe the Bible or not does not make any difference.
You said the present Isreal is not linked to the biblical Israel. And I asked you whether the whole Jews died at a point without offsprings and you are talking of another thing instead of answering the question.
The Israelites believe in Judaism. Most of them dispute the new testament of the Bible. Most of them dispute the Jesus of Christianity therefore they can not and are not the Israelites of the Bible.
It is Africans like yourself who are ignorantly mixing things up about a religion that was imported and superimposed on your culture and this is the same for all the Abrahamic religions.
Once again I advise you to remove all your prejudice that was imposed on you from your youth and go down the rabbit hole and investigate the history of the Bible.
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by Middleborn: 10:20pm On Jun 21, 2025
aribisala0:
There is no logic to this statement even if it were true

However It is just a claim with no basis

Secondly what does BLACK mean

There are so many people with dark skin around the world e.g There are black Indians , black people in Papua New Guinea , Indonesia etc

Your assumption that Black people are necessarily all AFrican or related to Africans is untrue

The Aboriginal peoples of Australia are black .

They are genetically unrelated to Black Africans

If there were Black Jews which remains unproven why do you assume they have anything to do with black Africans


The people in this photo are not African they are Indians and have no connection to Africa

Genetic studies do not link them to Africa

So when records use the word BLACK do not assume it has anything to do with us
Nearly every study i check on the internet, including wikipedia suggests that black Indians were indeed from the Bantu people of east Africa
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by aribisala0(m): 11:38pm On Jun 21, 2025
Middleborn:
Nearly every study i check on the internet, including wikipedia suggests that black Indians were indeed from the Bantu people of east Africa
You are not really qualified to talk because you talk at a very pedestrian level
Can you define BLACK INDIAN
No study will happen without defining what it is studying

Do not just throw words around ignorantly
What is Bantu?

I will help you
The Andamanese people of India are Black and autochthonous
We are referring to autochthonous groups in India not recent arrivals like Siddis

Are the Andamanese people of Bantu or African Origin?

Are the other black peoples in Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, or the Aboriginal peoples of Australia also Bantu?
You really do not have the rigor or discipline to "CHECK" anything . Going to Google or Wikipedia is good but it is secondary school level.

If you are not operating at a PhD level it is better to be silent
..........
Honestly


The basic point is THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT ARE NOT OF AFRICAN ORIGIN in the genetic sense that does not assume ALL HUMANS are from Africa



Do you dispute that?
Re: Is The Israel Of 1948 The Same Israel In The Bible? by BlackAdam65: 11:57am On Mar 01
Elyonboy:
It's not the same. The present Israel is nothing but a Western creation. It has nothing to do with the biblical Israel.

Edited for those mentioning me. The original Jews are even black and not this fake white European Jews. You have all been scammed.
your wrong the real Hebrews were brown like the Arabs not black
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