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Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by GothamCities: 9:33am On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is there any difference between being God and a God? undecided
Yeah, there is.

There's nothing like a God because there's only one God - The God.

A god, not a God refers to idols.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:47am On Jun 23, 2025
GothamCities:
Yeah, there is.
There's nothing like a God because there's only one God - The God.
A god, not a God refers to idols.
Hilarious! smiley

If you must know Bible interpreters used the lower case for the Gods they called idols but to worshipers of Zeus, Hermes, Jupiter, Ra and likes they are all GODS.
So the only difference is the name not upper or lower case.
PRESIDENT, President and president means the same thing! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by GothamCities: 1:54pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Hilarious! smiley

If you must know Bible interpreters used the lower case for the Gods they called idols but to worshipers of Zeus, Hermes, Jupiter, Ra and likes they are all GODS.
So the only difference is the name not upper or lower case.
PRESIDENT, President and president means the same thing! smiley
Of course to the worshippers of Zeus, Ra, Hermes, etc, they're all Gods but do we submit to their standards or the standards of the Holy Scriptures?

To us, there is only one God - the God. One Father, the Father. Not father (small f). This capital F of a Father is who Jesus was called in Isaiah 9:6. The Everlasting Father. Not the Everlasting father. The Son that was born is not the father or the everlasting father but The Everlasting Father which is also the Mighty God.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 2:37pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
John is talking about the origin of this one who later became the word of God.

It's like saying:
"The president of Nigeria WAS a student of St Peter Anglican church" that doesn't mean he has become the president as a student in primary school nah! undecided
Ok, let's replace "word" with president and you'll see you're obviously wrong:

"In the beginning was the president, and the president was with..."
See the nonsense? You'd use the president's name: "In the beginning was John, and John was with..."
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:36pm On Jun 23, 2025
GothamCities:
Of course to the worshippers of Zeus, Ra, Hermes, etc, they're all Gods but do we submit to their standards or the standards of the Holy Scriptures?
So there is no different except what each God is able to do!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:38pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Ok, let's replace "word" with president and you'll see you're obviously wrong:
"In the beginning was the president, and the president was with..."
See the nonsense? You'd use the president's name: "In the beginning was John, and John was with..."
The nonsense is when a translator says the word WAS God and with God, no one has seen God but people saw the word! undecided
The person in question could be with anyone nah, the point of emphasis is that the word has been with God in the beginning that doesn't mean he became the word in the beginning.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 3:48pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The nonsense is when a translator says the word WAS God and with God, no one has seen God but people saw the word! undecided
The person in question could be with anyone nah, the point of emphasis is that the word has been with God in the beginning that doesn't mean he became the word in the beginning.
I think you have a problem with language syntax.
"In the beginning was the president of Nigeria and the president of Nigeria was with..."
Who'd ever write that??
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
I think you have a problem with language syntax.
"In the beginning was the president of Nigeria and the president of Nigeria was with..."
Who'd ever write that??
Millions have written things like that when the person is no longer physically around!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 4:07pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Millions have written things like that when the person is no longer physically around!
"In the beginning was president Tinubu, and President Tinubu was with..."😆 Pure nonsense! NOBODY will write that, unless he was already president Tinubu!

Meanwhile that's not even the point if my post.
Here's the post again:

That's by human reasoning. Just as by human reasoning he can't be inside you, neither could the Father be inside him, etc. Isn't the word of God also God?? You have to know what we are trying to define here.
(I'll now cut and paste what I wrote before):

God has no definition in human terms.
See if you can wrap your mind around this:
There are over 2 trillion galaxies in our universe. AND possibly unlimited number of universes. Now, if you shrink our galaxy (which is just ONE of trillions of galaxies) to the size of the earth, our earth will be smaller than a grain of salt! Add to that, there are likely multiple dimensions. That's the God you're trying to say who can sit beside who!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:13pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
God has no definition in human terms.
So you have to keep what you know while i keep mine no wahala! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 4:24pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So you have to keep what you know while i keep mine no wahala! smiley
That's the thing - you don't know anything, neither do I. So we are in no position to be saying whether the Word of God can be God and at same time be with God. Just as we are in no position to say whether God can be in heaven and at same time be in each of us or is able to listen to a million prayers all at once, etc
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:28pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
That's the thing - you don't know anything, neither do I. So we ree in no position to be saying whether the Word of God can be God and at same time be with God. Just as we are in no position to say whether God can be in heaven and at same time be in each of us or is able to listen to a million prayers all at once, etc
I and my millions of my faithful brothers globally have agreed on the definition of our own God so there's no need crossing the lines if you don't have any definition for your own God! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 4:49pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I and my millions of my faithful brothers globally have agreed on the definition of our own God so there's no need crossing the lines if you don't have any definition for your own God! smiley
Man (which includes you and your brothers) know almost nothing talkless of defining God. We only know Jesus is God from evidence NOT from our reasoning or logic. See below, same thing happened with Simeon the old man and Anna, the old widow:

Mathew 2:
The star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them. It finally stopped over the place where the child was. 10 When they saw the star, they were filled with joy. 11 The Wise Men went to the house. There they saw the child with his mother Mary. They bowed down and worshiped him.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:12pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Man (which includes you and your brothers) know almost nothing talkless of defining God. We only know Jesus is God from evidence NOT from our reasoning or logic. See below, same thing happened with Simeon the old man and Anna, the old widow:

Mathew 2:
The star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them. It finally stopped over the place where the child was. 10 When they saw the star, they were filled with joy. 11 The Wise Men went to the house. There they saw the child with his mother Mary. They bowed down and worshiped him.
Guy don't worry yourself further it's not easy to agree since you have no definition for your own God i believe you already know where the problem is and that settles the issue.
We have a definition of God and we've all agreed upon that definition so it is WORKING for our faith {James 2:18} and yielding positive results in our midst! John 13:34-35

As for what you quoted this is what my own Bible says:

And when they went into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and falling down, they did obeisance to him. Matthew 2:11a
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 5:46pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Guy don't worry yourself further it's not easy to agree since you have no definition for your own God i believe you already know where the problem is and that settles the issue.
We have a definition of God and we've all agreed upon that definition so it is WORKING for our faith {James 2:18} and yielding positive results in our midst! John 13:34-35

As for what you quoted this is what my own Bible says:

And when they went into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and falling down, they did obeisance to him. Matthew 2:11a
You read your Bible, right? Which other time do you see anybody do obeisance to child, talkless if one born in a manger where animals are kept?
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
You read your Bible, right? Which other time do you see anybody do obeisance to child, talkless if one born in a manger where animals are kept?
ọmọ it's obeisance and it could be done to anyone! Act 10:25
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 6:06pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
ọmọ it's obeisance and it could be done to anyone! Act 10:25
Here is what you quoted. Can you imagine Jesus saying this?

25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Here is what you quoted. Can you imagine Jesus saying this?
25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
He said the same thing several times but people like you just turned the blind eye!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 8:33pm On Jun 23, 2025
GothamCities:
Yeah, there is.

There's nothing like a God because there's only one God - The God.

A god, not a God refers to idols.
Oga STOP DECEIVING yourself..
Pls Look up the meaning of Theo's (Greek 2316 lexicon).


Acts 12:22-23
judgment seat,[bv] and made a speech to them. 22 But the crowd began to shout,The voice of a god, and not of a man!” 23 Immediately an angel of the Lord struck Herod down because he did not give the glory to God
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 8:38pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
You read your Bible, right? Which other time do you see anybody do obeisance to child, talkless if one born in a manger where animals are kept?
Your Trinitarian mentors created a false impression to deceive gullible folks.

Have you REMOVED Jesus instruction (@ Matthew 4:10 & Mark 12:29 Aramaic Bible) he copied from the book of Deuteronomy in your Bible?
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 8:48pm On Jun 23, 2025
GothamCities:
Of course to the worshippers of Zeus, Ra, Hermes, etc, they're all Gods but do we submit to their standards or the standards of the Holy Scriptures?

To us, there is only one God - the God. One Father, the Father. Not father (small f). This capital F of a Father is who Jesus was called in Isaiah 9:6. The Everlasting Father. Not the Everlasting father. The Son that was born is not the father or the everlasting father but The Everlasting Father which is also the Mighty God.
The expression in Isaiah 9:6 says "He (Jesus) became Everlasting Father"...

That expression ("Everlasting Father)" was not always Jesus title.

El Gib
bowr ("mighty God "wink title is not exclusive to Jesus.
Mighty God is a title of Man, Yahweh, angels etc.

Compare Exodus 6:3 & Isaiah 6:9 to identify the difference.
ONLY Yahweh is the Almighty God.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 8:59pm On Jun 23, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Here is what you quoted. Can you imagine Jesus saying this?

25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
Acts 10:25
International Standard Version
"When Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him, bowed down at his feet, and began to worship him.

NET Bible
So when Peter came in, Cornelius met him, fell at his feet, and worshiped him.

New Heart English Bible
When it happened that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.

Webster's Bible Translation
And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.

Weymouth New Testament
When Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him, and threw himself at his feet to do him homage


Weymouth New Testament, Young's Literal Translation & New World Translation gave the correct rendition of Acts 10:25.

ALL your Trinitarian mentors contravened Matthew 4:10 by creating the impression that Cornelius worshipped Jesus apostle.
Jesus Christ himself @ Matthew 4:10 faulted the rendition of Matthew 2:11.


Matthew 4:10 is proof Jesus Christ is NOT the God Almighty.
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Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by 22jumpstreet: 9:16pm On Jun 23, 2025
Your people can talk about your gods who is dust.
It does not matter....
The creator and source of everything can't be made of dust. .....so qualms.
My God is the universal, eternal, indivisible source and creator of all things visible and invisible.....he created all the realms and is not part of any one. He is all the realms. I am a spark of the whole....
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 9:17pm On Jun 23, 2025
Ruke1990:
We concluded that Jesus is God. The Jehovah's witnesses here o. Nairaland were unable to disprove it or argue further because the evidences were too many from the scripture

Oga,You want to deceive yourself.

Can you provide evidence that you REMOVED Revelation 3:12, Matthew 27:46 and John 20:17,30-31 from your Bible?

The statements referenced in those verses were from Jesus Christ himself.

You worshipping two spirits, did Jesus Christ worship 2 Spirits?

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 9:19pm On Jun 23, 2025
22jumpstreet:
Your people can talk about your gods who is dust.
It does not matter....
The creator and source of everything can't be made of dust. .....so qualms.
My God is the universal, eternal, indivisible source and creator of all things visible and invisible.....he created all the realms and is not part of any one. He is all the realms. I am a spark of the whole....
You referenced your own God as "HE".
Later you go say nah 3 persons or 3 spirits.
grin grin
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 9:24pm On Jun 23, 2025
GothamCities:
God didn't make Moses God. He only made him a god, not God to Pharaoh. Only Pharaoh. To command pharaoh and to show him power. That's all.

Jesus was not made God. He is God. Tell me where He was made God. Moses was not Devine. Jesus is. He is the Everlasting Father, the Mighty God.
Your Bible confirmed that Jesus was made Lord.
Likewise, Jesus was made divine.
Divine meaning a god, godlike.

Please go ahead and learn, UNLEARN and RELEARN.

Shalom.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by 22jumpstreet: 9:36pm On Jun 23, 2025
Janosky:
You referenced your own God as "HE".
Later you go say nah 3 persons or 3 spirits.
grin grin
For a purpose...
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 9:41pm On Jun 23, 2025
22jumpstreet:
For a purpose...
He can never be triune..

Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by 22jumpstreet: 9:42pm On Jun 23, 2025
Janosky:
He can never be triune..

I know that, He is one and indivisible...and has no physical form.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op):
Janosky:
Acts 10:25
International Standard Version
"When Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him, bowed down at his feet, and began to worship him.

NET Bible
So when Peter came in, Cornelius met him, fell at his feet, and worshiped him.

New Heart English Bible
When it happened that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.

Webster's Bible Translation
And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.

Weymouth New Testament
When Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him, and threw himself at his feet to do him homage


Weymouth New Testament, Young's Literal Translation & New World Translation gave the correct rendition of Acts 10:25.

ALL your Trinitarian mentors contravened Matthew 4:10 by creating the impression that Cornelius worshipped Jesus apostle.
Jesus Christ himself @ Matthew 4:10 faulted the rendition of Matthew 2:11.


Matthew 4:10 is proof Jesus Christ is NOT the God Almighty.
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Are you ok? The point is, he WORSHIPPED him NOT obeisance as you JW would claim when it comes to Jesus. He worshipped him, which prompted him to say what ANY prophet in the Bible would say in such a situation - "How dare you worship me. Am I God?"

Show us ONE instance where Jesus said : "I'm only a man". Far from it, he says "I am", knowing fully well the implication to the Jews!

You and Maxindhouse need to realize one thing: it takes maturity in the word to realize Jesus is God. Even his apostles who spent all that time with him, didn't realize it till after his resurrection.
Russel (who founded JW) was a kid. Had it been he was a bit more matured it would have gradually dawned on him that Jesus was indeed God the Son of God, and that would have been your doctrine today!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 11:07pm On Jun 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He said the same thing several times but people like you just turned the blind eye!
Show us ONE instance where Jesus said : "I'm only a man". Far from it, he says "I am", knowing fully well the implication to the Jews!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Ruke1990: 4:11am On Jun 24, 2025
Janosky:

Oga,You want to deceive yourself.

Can you provide evidence that you REMOVED Revelation 3:12, Matthew 27:46 and John 20:17,30-31 from your Bible?

The statements referenced in those verses were from Jesus Christ himself.

You worshipping two spirits, did Jesus Christ worship 2 Spirits?

https://www.nairaland.com/8420353/jesus-god-why-did-he
Read this thread from first page to the last and see how JW blasphemous teaching about Jesus was corrected using appropriate scriptures until JW congregation were unable to defend their stand. Don't reinvent the wheel, just go to this thread and use open mind to read non JW responses and bible passages given to you by non JW members so you can be educated
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