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When Israel did dat to Gaza peoples u don't talk did u know how many children lost their life or lost their parents? Abeg kwn wat to talk oo

ElSudani:
But you will trust Israel for flattening out Gaza. You will trust them even after attacking Syria and southern Lebanon.
I bet you will still trust them even if half of the planet is preemptively nuked.

oldguyman:
Over one thousand civilian death were recorded in Iran, are you saying over 1000 of them are military people?

Over 1000k Abba even Iranian news didn't come close to this figure despite propaganda.
Israel didn't strike any civilian area notwithstanding there must be casualties in any war. What we are saying is that Israel has precision and plan in this war but Iran had non. Israel weakened Iranian military significantly or you think Iranian would easily give up this war after losing what they spent their entire resources to build for decades.
They lost hamas, hesbollah, houtis, top generals, nuclear scientist and nuclear capability all nuclear sites are all gone. Please tell me what Israel lost not even one iron dome. Israel announced to the public anytime they successfully eliminate or destroy a particular thing but Iran are just throwing bombs whoever wherever without announcing a significant target, if Israel fire the way Iran were firing missiles everywhere in Iran would be rubbles

Love800:
I want ask ask something.

What started this iran and Israel fight pls?

Asin, why are they fighting?

In a nutshell:

1) After the jews were dispersed and enslaved around the world, their Arabian/Palestinian brethrens inhabited most of the biblical land that used to be the lands of the Jews.

2) Following the holocaust and the end of the Second World War, a plan was initiated be the allies to resettle the Jews in this former space in the middle east that they used to occupy before they were scattered all over the earth.

3) This resettlement which was carried out in the 40s led to the recreation of a Jewish homeland; Isreal. Initially, the Arabs/Palestinians were ambivalent to this scheme, but as the contest for territories naturally heated up and the ideological differences between the two groups became more pronounced, confrontations ensued.

4) With their financial, economic, political, diplomatic and military clout around the globe, the Jews of the "New Isreal" were able to successfully crush these challenges and more or else subjugated the Palestinians who used to occupy the land of Isreal before the "resettlement" of the Jews post world war 2.

5) This angered other Arabs in the region who are very territorial in their endeavours. So the Arab nations ganged up against Isreal and declared a series of wars that were intended to retrieve these lands from the Jews and hand them over to the Palestinians.(read up the 6 day war and others). The Arabs failed and were in many cases crushed so badly that Isreal also hyjacked their lands and joined those to the new Isreal; the Golant heights from Syria, the Sinai from Egypt, then the West Bank and the Gaza strip from thePalestinians....

6) These series of events helped amplify the hate and anger in the Region against each other. Matters are not helped by the fact that isreal is the only non Muslim country in the middle east. But the more these other Arab countries strategised to find ways to unravel Isreal, the more sophisticated Isreal became, not just in warfare, but also in espionage, diplomatic engagements, weapons manufacturing and research, and general economic progress..

6) The Jewish population still living in most of these other European/Western countries from where many of these Jews relocated to Israel, have now become integral parts of those countries politics and economies. This factor helps them to form very dependable pressure groups in such places as the USA, France and Britain. Very powerful to the extent that they can skew policies in ways that helped to create situations where NATO is now also protecting Isreal..

7) Out-hustled and out manoeuvred, Arab countries started to wither as they grudgingly make peace with Isreal, while some elected to fight Isreal through proxies. Countries like Egypt under Anwar Sadat made peace with Isreal and stopped any sort of direct attacks against Isreal, but hardliners in places like Saudi Arabia, Syria under Assad senior, Iraq under Saddam and others, basically decided to manipulate other means they hoped to use in toppling the regimes in Isreal...

Enter Iran. The Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persians, but they are Muslims living in the same middle east. They are mainly shiites and have a long civilisation that includes defeating the Jews at certain times in the past. But all through the resettlement process and the immediate aftermath, the Iranians were ruled by a very pro-Western regime headed by the Shah of Iran. So the Shah had a very robust relationship with the isrealis. That means that while the Arabs were fighting the isrealis, the Shah wasn't that interested.

9) That all changed when the Iranian Islamic revolution happened in 1979. The Shah was basically chased away by his people because of this sort of policies. The Ayatollahs who took over as the rulers of Iran became very anti Isreal and started a series of policies to use their huge oil wealth and massive political reach to organise against the zionist state of Isreal, as some other Arab countries did and are still doing..

10) These were going on without much big events until the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, the next door Muslim nations to Iran and basically decapitated the leadership of those countries. Iran immediately accelerated her weapons research and manufacturing programmes and started supporting anti America/Western groups in these countries, especially in Iraq, where most of the IEDs used to chase American service men away from that country, were supplied by Iran.

11) The stunning effectiveness of these new military capabilities developed by Iran, coupled with their greater fear of western intentions in the area and the fact that the other Sunni Arab countries do not like the fact that Iran has now become the headquarters of shiites globally, only encouraged the Iranians to get more sophisticated in the art of weapons manufacturing/ espionage...

12) With every Muslim nation in the neighbourhood wanting their annihilation, Isreal was genuinely alarmed. In less than 3 decades after the Iranian revolution, Iranians were producing rockets with sophisticated delivery systems, and were building up a very radical support base across the region to not just antagonise the isrealis, but to also set up platforms to remove the imperial monarchies that rule the very rich oil states of the middle east if possible.

13) Since most of these Arab oil producing countries are very close allies of the West, especially the Americans, most of them who were hitherto against Isreal because of the Palestinian issues, started to find ways to collaborate with Isreal and the USA in order to defang Iran. Essentially, their interests aligned against Iran. The Ayatollahs in Iran didn't help matters by increasingly working to be at the threshold of making nuclear weapons while producing the most sophisticated rocket delivery systems in the whole middle east .

14) Isreal felt legitimately threatened and so was Saudi Arabia the leader of the Sunni world. America and the two countries are very close. While the Saudis don't have the military abilities to challenge the Iranians frontally and win, the Isrealis felt they do have what it will take to do just that. So they found ways to convince the Americans to allow them attack the Iranians in order to stop both their rocket and nuclear weapons ambitions. Many American presidents rejected this, but Trump caved in and the rest is history...

[quote author=heysquare post=135874820][/quote]You should check the picture and see the difference between your Iran targeting civilians building and Israel targeting a key point.

DeepSight:
Are you ignorant of the fact that Israel does not allow military barracks in Gaza? So tell me where else Gazans are to fight from if not from among their own civilian midst.

So the solution is to hide terrorist base within schools and hospitals? Continue deceiving yourself

Bossly:
Stop confusing yourself.

Military lives are lives, just like civilian lives.
War destroys both civilians & soldiers.
Those who really care about civilian lives don't start wars.

Meanwhile, the pounding of the "chosen people" continues 🤣😂

Okay so you guys should stop crying genocide on Gaza then 😂 😂 or what did you think

LadyExcellency:
Bombing residential buildings is why no country will support or trust Iran again with a civilian nuclear program.

Imagine Israeli Aircraft dropping bombs on Iranian civilians. Millions would've died.

Look at you
What was Israel doing in Gaza
Iron Dome has failed

Oh you think Israel accepted ceasefire? You must must be smoking horsesh*t, wait for a few days when Israel finally confirm ur supreme terror leader hideout the ceasefire is a ploy for Israel to debrief and brief mossad agents on new priority missions

Ikaeniyan0:
The only reason Israel agreed to accept a ceasefire is because the Iranians are fighting back.

WhatchDoGG:
Oh you think Israel accepted ceasefire? You must must be smoking horsesh*t, wait for a few days when Israel finally confirm ur supreme terror leader hideout the ceasefire is a ploy for Israel to debrief and brief mossad agents on new priority missions

Trump is not joking bro. If Israel attack the Iranians, Trump will finally put Netayanhu where he belong. Without the US support, Israel won't last against Iran

Ikaeniyan0:
Trump is not joking bro. If Israel attack the Iranians, Trump will finally put Netayanhu where he belong. Without the US support, Israel won't last against Iran

Keep lying to yourself, "Trump will put Netayanhu where he belongs"? Remind me again who bombed fadow nuclear bunker in Iran and who sent him? Trump and Benji are inseperable

FreeStuffsNG:
Hubris. Smh. That's the main reason for all these destruction in pictures. Pride goeth before a disgrace.

Iron dome, arrow that and arrow this lule pii.
My condolences to all the grieving families on all the warring sides.

Despite Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, France, British and American in collaboration with interception,by now isrealhell could have worse than Gaza.

RulerIAm:
you call scientists building nuclear weapons civilians??

Yes. Not all nuclear scientist major in nuclear weapon production. Most are there for nuclear power plant maintenance too.

Just like not all mechanical engineers participate in production of vehicles. Irrespective of that they are not military men.

By your argument a driver that drives a military truck or transport military equipments is also a military man too?

kushercain:
So the solution is to hide terrorist base within schools and hospitals? Continue deceiving yourself

You are the one drinking Western and Israeli propaganda. Number One, you will call any base they have "terrorist base." That's the first sign you are deceiving yourself. Number Two, you will say "hiding in schools and hospitals." Please tell me where they should fight back from. Will a library be better? Will a mortuary be better? Will a factory be better? Just name it. There is no where they fight from which you will not describe as a "terrorist base" hiding behind civilians.

Ol boy wake up. The same people called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

This same Israel you are defending has committed the worst atrocities ever. Do you know the way they cage Gaza like a concentration camp? Do you know the sort of apartheid and colonialism being practiced in the West Bank? And black man that you are, you are defending that sort of racism and oppression, the same thing that was done to your ancestors.

Wake up, I repeat, stop drinking Western Koolaid. Think for yourself. How can one set of people cage and oppress another set of people and when they defend themselves you say "terrorists hiding behind schools and hospitals."

I pity you. They have eaten your mind.

The pounding continues 💯

Firebomber:
Okay so you guys should stop crying genocide on Gaza then 😂 😂 or what did you think

Ikaeniyan0:
The only reason Israel agreed to accept a ceasefire is because the Iranians are fighting back.

Was Hamas not fighting back when they accepted ceasefire

mikeapollo:
You are silent on the people who have made it their life ambition to destroy and wipe Israel off the surface of the earth. That is the main cause of the wars and other problems.
They don't want Israel to exist so they tell all sorts of lies to attack Israel

Let me ask you a question....
So lets say you bought a land in Lagos, banana island....You built your house, you and your generations have been living there peacefully for hundreds of years.
Then some guys come in the middle of the night attack your security guard, maybe even kill one of your kids, destroy your BQ build their house there, and then continue to gradually break and take over your compound...And all this is done based on some claim from 2000 years ago.

Please tell me what you will do....

Righteousness2:
A tough morning.

It's hard to take such a blow. And at the last minute with The Firing af Civilians

And yet, we need to see the big picture, which is:

1. The Iranian nuclear project has been ELIMINATED

2. The Iranian missile project has been severely damaged

3. The Iranians have suffered many losses, many casualties, including HEADS of SECURITY services, nuclear scientists and soldiers, as well as severe damage to production, attack and defense capabilities

4. Our pilots in the skies returned safely

5. Israel has demonstrated the capabilities of a superpower, absolute control over airspace, and made it clear that it is several levels above its enemies

6. Iran's proxies are almost paralyzed

7. As I understand it, the estimates for civilian casualties in such an event were about 400 dead, we suffered (probably) 29. This is very difficult and every case is a disaster, but this is about 7% of the estimates

8. The dilemma and test now: what will be the Israeli response to the resumption of missile production in Iran

9. All that remains now is to subdue Hamas and return all the hostages!

10. Friends, there is more work to do! Keep your heads up!! Until the absolute victory!!!

Mugu so the world is not longer coming to an end again ?

Guestmale:
What do we now say of a group that woke up one day unprovoked entered another tribes territory and killed 1200 civilians children inclusive and abducted another 250 civilians.

Oh so we're starting history on October 7 now? What do we say about the decades of blockade, land seizures, apartheid policies, and repeated bombardments that led up to that? Or the thousands of Palestinian civilians, many of them children, killed long before October 7? These things are not shown to you on BBC, CNN, Sky News, MSNBC and other Western propaganda media that are shoved down your throat. You don’t trap, brutalise, and bomb a population for decades and expect peace songs in return.

Yes what Hamas did was tragic but you can’t isolate one day in history and pretend it happened in a vacuum. You’re outraged at 1,200 Israeli lives lost (as you should be), but completely silent on the 50,000+ Palestinian lives taken in the months that followed.

If human life truly matters to you, then it has to matter consistently, not just when it fits a certain narrative. Justice isn’t selective, if your empathy only activates when it’s Israelis dying, but you scroll past Palestinian corpses like it’s normal, then you’re not defending humanity my bro, you're defending a double standard. Dig a little deeper in history, not just from Oct 7.

WhatchDoGG:
Keep lying to yourself, "Trump will put Netayanhu where he belongs"? Remind me again who bombed fadow nuclear bunker in Iran and who sent him? Trump and Benji are inseperable

Remind me again, who told Netanyahu to stop the bombing? A lot of Americans don't want war.

They wanted to bully Iran but met a strong and tactical resistance

Firebomber:
You should check the picture and see the difference between your Iran targeting civilians building and Israel targeting a key point.

The numbers of casualties tell us more of which country care about civilian. Gaza was totally devastated even when Israel supposed to have retreat rather they kept destroying the city and killing people indiscriminately

BRATISLAVA:
So you believe that if Israelis depended on food from the Iranians that they would give them? And you would campaign for the release of food to them?

A lot of you are religious bigots who pretend to be liberals. Or to care about humanity. Your only goal, like Iran, is to remove Israel from the world map. But your antisemitic religious cunning and rhetoric are easy to see through.

Go and thank Seun for the way he is using bot to ban people if not you have gotten your comprehensive response to this thrash that you put up there.
Meanwhile check the dictionary meaning of bigot, liberals, and antisemitism stop making comments because you have data.

ekineme:
Show me one evidence starting from 1978 to 2023 where Israel has bombed iran as you claim. Just one, the problem with most of you is that instead of doing an independent research, you will swallow every vomit one extremist is throwing at you. Who funds, Hamas,Hezbollah, houthis and Iraqi militia to be attacking Israel?

- April 2024: Israel bombed the Iranian consulate in Damascus, killing senior Iranian officials. This marked a significant escalation in direct conflict between the two nations.
- April and October 2024: Both countries traded strikes, with Israel targeting Iranian military and nuclear facilities.
- July 2024: Israel assassinated Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, further heightening tensions.
- October 2024: Iran launched a massive ballistic missile attack on Israel, prompting a retaliatory strike from Israel.
- June 2025: Israel launched a series of airstrikes on Iranian military and nuclear facilities, marking one of the most significant attacks since the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.


All ur claims needs proof also pls

SUPERPACK:
Yes. Not all nuclear scientist major in nuclear weapon production. Most are there for nuclear power plant maintenance too.

Just like not all mechanical engineers participate in production of vehicles. Irrespective of that they are not military men.

By your argument a driver that drives a military truck or transport military equipments is also a military man too?

They are part of the military infrastructure.

heysquare:
The numbers of casualties tell us more of which country care about civilian. Gaza was totally devastated even when Israel supposed to have retreat rather they kept destroying the city and killing people indiscriminately

The number of casualties tell you which country have the safety of their citizens at hand, all the bunkers in Israel is not for decoration, it's meant to minimize casualties, we all see how your Iran keeps targeting residential buildings in all the video your bothers are uploading.

Why should Israel retreats from Gaza when your Gaza people are not ready to release all the Israeli people that they kidnapped?

sben2308:
- April 2024: Israel bombed the Iranian consulate in Damascus, killing senior Iranian officials. This marked a significant escalation in direct conflict between the two nations.
- April and October 2024: Both countries traded strikes, with Israel targeting Iranian military and nuclear facilities.
- July 2024: Israel assassinated Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, further heightening tensions.
- October 2024: Iran launched a massive ballistic missile attack on Israel, prompting a retaliatory strike from Israel.
- June 2025: Israel launched a series of airstrikes on Iranian military and nuclear facilities, marking one of the most significant attacks since the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.


All ur claims needs proof also pls

Did you read what I wrote? Go through it again,.what are military generals doing at Lebanon? Arming and coordinating threat and you expect idf to wait until something bad happened b4 they can react. People like you are the ones spinning narrative that idf knew abt October 7 and didn't act just cos they want to use October 7 as excuse to attack hamas, assuming idf has annihilated the threat just like the one u stated, same you will still come and say idf attack hamas unprovoked.
The good thing is that every right thinking person knows the truth, you guys derive pleasure from falsehood so either which way, you will always spin the narrative trying to portray idf as d aggressor even when its glaring and on camera that Iran chant death to IDF, arm militia and has never hidden their intention.

Thunderfayamods:
Go and thank Seun for the way he is using bot to ban people if not you have gotten your comprehensive response to this thrash that you put up there.
Meanwhile check the dictionary meaning of bigot, liberals, and antisemitism stop making comments because you have data.

Antisemitism wears many masks: liberal, outraged, Muslim, atheist, antichrist, nazi, Christian, righteous about gaza, rubbish indignation at my posts...

Many masks, but one sentiment.

Outrage at Gaza isn't for love. Otherwise have it for the entire north Africa that was conquested by Arabs. You wouldn't. Not if you share the hamas inclinations.

ekineme:
Console yourself, without USA the war can't last 12 days, Israel would have finish the Job within 3 days, they achieved the war aim without firing single ICBM, imagine Israel deciding to be sending missile indiscriminately into Tehran. You would have been here crying genocide but now that your terrorist master is doing it, you don't and can't see anything wrong with bombing civilian homes.

Keep deceiving yourself, if not because of USA, Tel aviv would have been worse than Gaza.

Iran messed up by allowing Mossad spies into IRAN without any proper scrutiny, that was why Israel were able to target their generals and scientists, they have learnt from their mistakes now and caught most of the traitors.