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mfm04622:
Ask your official dietician or doctor to educayyou on this! Social media is not the right place for this!

Fair enough.

But in this day and age, you can also educate yourself about a common illness like diabetes so you dont 100% rely on a doctor, many of whom have not kept up with new developments and perspectives happening in Europe and North America.

And I suspect his father has being seeing a doctor, but things are not improving.

Many doctors just want to prescribe medication, which after some years start affecting people's liver, kidney etc

And in most cases, once you are diabetic, high blood pressure will soon follow.

Before patients know it they are battling 2 very serious illnesses and they have to take more and more medication that they can't get off.

What, and how we eat has an important role to play in the healing process. Doctors don't have all the answers.

Earthstorms:
You are so wrong.
Diabetes can be reversed and people are reversing it through diet.

Once the insulin sensitivity is restored through appropriate diet, you can eat all foods in moderation.

Diabetes is a dietary and lifestyle illness. To cure it you will have to change your diet and lifestyle that caused the disease. It's like alcoholism, you cure alcoholism by limiting intake of alcohol

I wish this your viewpoint isn't wrong. You may reverse pre diabetes, but not full blown diabetes

Avoid garri.rice.soft drink . alcohol.yam.most fruits and you will be fine

Brisk walking, garden egg, cucumber, fist portion food quantity with lots of green vegetables, you will be fine

Do everything to avoid the onset of diabetes, especially if you have family history of it

gabbytabby:
Not easy in Nigeria

To eat.

1) Swallow - Oats , Green Plantain check if you can get chia seeds and add a little blended.
2) Vegetables and salad - This should be your main meal you can have your salad with egg. Salad with chicken.
3) Beans the different kinds eg, black eyed, oloyin etc
4) Drinks and fruits - Sour sop, cucumber, make your own hibiscus drink sweetened with dates or pineapple
5) Snack on nuts and edible seeds.
6) Herbs (try to get seeds and plant the ones you can) and Iru instead of maggi and little sea salt. Coriander, parsley, rosemary, garlic, ginger, turmeric etc
7) Go to vegetables is all of the usual suspects ( ugu, waterleaf, bitter leaf, Oha, moringa, Okro, tête, etc)
Meat protein - Fish, Chicken, Turkey, other birds, eggs, little cattle, goat, ram and bush meat.
9) Peppersoup with spices that you ground yourself and add little yam or sweet potatoes and lots of cabbage and carrots vegetables etc to fill you up.
10) Teas - guava leaf, moringa leaf, soursop leaf, hibiscus( zobo) can be served hot as tea.
11) Stews with vegetables.

A)rice wash 3 times, mix with beans, eat with vegetables or okro and just have one serving spoon.
2) Yam. 1 slice of roasted yam with the back on and eat with vegetables.
3) Potatoes yellow better than white and about 3 medium pieces with vegetables or eggs.
4) Semo and garri best to substitute with swallow above ie oat and green plantain otherwise add beetroot or turmeric juice while turning.
5) Suasages substitute with fish or eggs
6) soft drinks and malt substitute with homemade hibiscus drink (zobo) and water. The ones bought are made with saccharine which is deadly for people with diabetes
7) Bread - make your own with lentils or beans look for recipes online. Alternatively not more than 2 slices.

9) Most things can be cooked without oil if not use butter(not margarine) or lard from soft animal fat or olive oil and coconut oil. Better to use little palm oil than seed oils.

I disagree.

1.If you're already diabetic, avoid beans o. The beans in Nigeria today are too sweet, and have very little fibre.

2. Making your own bread will not make much difference to a diabetic. Avoid bread.

3. Margarine is very very unhealthy. Avoid.

4. Coconut oil is one of the most saturated oil. Saturated fat = high cholesterol. Avoid. Why would someone dealing with diabetes want to add high cholesterol to his situation. Avoid that oil at all cost.

5. However much you wash rice, it is unlikely to reduce the starch content by more than 20%. That is not going to help a diabetic. A pre-diabetc, may be. A diabetic is in a serious medical situation and must deal with it with all seriousness. So, rice should be out.

6. Oats is very high in carbohydrate, though it has a high fibre too. But the carb level is still too high for a diabetic. Also, like I said in an earlier comment, a diabetic should avoid any food that has been pulverised/grounded from its original state. So, swallow foods are not going to help a diabetic. Avoid them.

7. Sweet potato is a no no. Regular Irish potato in small portions should be fine.

8. How on earth should a diabetic go anywhere near pineapple? That's pure sugar.

In any case, what we write here are general statements, but how each diabetic respond to certain foods may vary from one diabetic to another.

The best thing is to invest a small amount in a blood sugar test kit so you can test yourself about 2 hours after you eat certain foods and write down your blood sugar figure for that food. Do the same for other foods, after some time you will have a better picture of what foods increase your blood sugar level the least, and which ones to avoid.

You can buy ACCU-CHEK from most pharmacies. I hope I am not breaking any Nairaland rule. This is a public interest matter, as diabetes is one of the biggest killers in Nigeria. It is important, we do whatever we can, to pass helpful information around.

Make sure u checked ur blood sugar regularly? Exercise regularly, eat low carb food, go for regular check up especially Hba1c & kidney function test, visit ur doctor & take your medication regularly (although on this one, I heard that the diabetic medications that's affordable in nigeria are old generation drugs like daoin, amaryl, metformin etc), try and get an international doctor if you have money, because there are alot of new generation diabetic drugs that are super wonderful. That not only crashed blood sugar but prevent alot of the side effects which normally leads to amputation, blindness, kidney failure etc or death sef.

Infact I told one diabetic, that I believe lack of money to buy those new generation drugs that's what making diabetes to be like a death sentence in nigeria.

Emu4life:
Note : Whatever you eat, you will still die

And without food, you will still die.

Better eat well and hope you live long

Having a prescribed diet for diabetes is good but what will save you is taking your medications and eating very little.

Rather than eating a large chunk of food twice or thrice a day, eat little chunks like 5 times or more.

Also, if the diabetes is type II, which is mostly the case for adult. Just know it's most likely your fault.

Type II Diabetes is very preventable. Just eat for energy, cut most of your carbohydrates and burn your calories by engaging in regular exercises.

But no, some of you want to eat the biggest meat because you can afford it.

Have you ever wondered why it's rare with poor people? That's cause it's an affluent disease.

highchief1:
I senior u for age and I’m more experienced than u.now it’s called fantasy.Those that don’t drink alcohol or do women maybe chronic drug addicts or gamblers or some other vices.dont claim perfection as it won’t make sense.every normal person get how e take Dey cool off.na only drink once once and babes once once I Dey do.anything when go make me no fit do am again small small as I Dey do so na shut down.

Everybody take alcohol because most of our food eventually break down and ferment producing some form of alcohol in very small quantities

Karleb:
Have you ever wondered why it's rare with poor people? That's cause it's an affluent disease.

Na WA o, if You still see food chop na problem

If you no see food chop na still problem

Difrent:
Everybody take alcohol because most of our food eventually break down and ferment producing some form of alcohol in very small quantities

the guy Dey form Saint o.as if there’s anything wrong with alcohol or babes.it is when u over do it that u will kill yoirself.

highchief1:
the guy Dey form Saint o.as if there’s anything wrong with alcohol or babes.it is when u over do it that u will kill yoirself.

Many don't know this secret
You can do almost everything if you do it in moderation.
Even drugs, it's usually a problem when abused, many people use drugs but don't abuse it

DeLaRue:
I disagree.

1.If you're already diabetic, avoid beans o. The beans in Nigeria today are too sweet, and have very little fibre.

2. Making your own bread will not make much difference to a diabetic. Avoid bread.

3. Margarine is very very unhealthy. Avoid.

4. Coconut oil is one of the most saturated oil. Saturated fat = high cholesterol. Avoid. Why would someone dealing with diabetes want to add high cholesterol to his situation. Avoid that oil at all cost.

5. However much you wash rice, it is unlikely to reduce the starch content by more than 20%. That is not going to help a diabetic. A pre-diabetc, may be. A diabetic is in a serious medical situation and must deal with it with all seriousness. So, rice should be out.

6. Oats is very high in carbohydrate, though it has a high fibre too. But the carb level is still too high for a diabetic. Also, like I said in an earlier comment, a diabetic should avoid any food that has been pulverised/grounded from its original state. So, swallow foods are not going to help a diabetic. Avoid them.

7. Sweet potato is a no no. Regular Irish potato in small portions should be fine.

time you will have a better picture of what foods increase your blood sugar level the least, and which ones to avoid.

You can buy ACCU-CHEK from most pharmacies. I hope I am not breaking any Nairaland rule. This is a public interest matter, as diabetes is one of the biggest killers in Nigeria. It is important, we do whatever we can, to pass helpful information around.

Rubbish!

I reversed T2d. From a1c of 9 to 5.

Beans: and sweet potatoes are super foods.

No fruits

Lose 15kg and 90% of T2d is gone

Difrent:
Many don't know this secret
You can do almost everything if you do it in moderation.
Even drugs, it's usually a problem when abused, many people use drugs but don't abuse it

the guy na funny guy.God when create man and woman tell u say e no know say we need sex,Alcohol was mentioned multiple times in the Bible.i don Dey fork for over 27yrs and not for one day have I had infection.this games can be played with decorum.i drink socially.make I come go where my mates Dey drink alcohol then begin drink coke as who Dey sick or what.Alcohol is healthy for the body some people don’t even know.10 mins of sex is better than 30 mins on treadmill.

coputa:
What a diabetic patient needs are the food to avoid,some of them are excessive sugar,oil,and salt intake

Eat fruits and vegetables regularly

Also avoid alcohol entirely don't over stressed yourself, know your limits

Prioritize your rest ,

And lastly check your blood pressure and cholesterol regularly

First, the major culprit - sugar. Avoid it.
There are people that will come to tell you to take enough fruit and vegetables... Whilst fruit and vegetables are good, AVOID sugary fruit. Any fruit that is sweet is not your friend, because the body doesn't care where you get your sugar from. Sugar is sugar, no matter the source. Honey is sugar, too.

Protein is your best bet. Eat a lot of eat and leafy greens. Avoid SEED oils (groundnut, soybean, sunflower etc.) any oil that comes from seeds should be avoided.

Palm oil, olive oil, coconut oil, animal fat, beef tallow etc are your best bet if you are looking for healthy oils.

I can't emphasize the importance of protein. Eat enough of it. Eggs are best bet because they pack a lot for their size and cost.

AVOID wheat o! Anything that is made from processed wheat should be avoided. Bread, buns, meat pie, run!

Difrent:
Na WA o, if You still see food chop na problem

If you no see food chop na still problem

Na so the life be o. If you get good health, just be thanking your God o.

twinskenny:
any idea?

kindly help


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Avoid wheat and it's derivatives (semi, bread, spaghetti, noodles, etc) as a plague.

Avoid processed foods.

Contact DOF >> https://www.facebook.com/doctorfthefuture for a meal plan and follow his teachings on social media.

You only need a lifestyle change to reverse it. Popping pills isn't the solution.

Contact that man, he will tell you what to do.

Don't let the big pharma put you on subscription base life.

When you want to contribute you do so without rubbishing others. I am dealing with diabetes and use Freestyle libre to measure using my phone app.

The fact that one has type 2 diabetes does not mean that you still do not need the nutrients ( hence the addition of moringa and soursop 2 to 3 times a week) and we don’t take any item in isolation as if one is eating just that item alone everyday. You talk as if you are a specialist when all you are is an alarmist please take am easy.

I talk based on extensive research I have done and I also do blood work every month and fluctuate between normal and pre diabetes on the basis of how religious I am with my diet. I know where I was coming from which resulted in my being unresponsive for 5 days.

Sweet potato when boiled has low glycemic index of 45 and also because it releases its sugar slowly and so does not spike suddenly.

Beans and indeed legumes in general is good for a diabetic. My go to beans in black eyed beans.

Pineapple was mentioned in the context of a substitute for sugar or saccharine in hibiscus tea or drink.

The alternative ingredient to a diabetic bread is what matters.

Where you saw margarine is when I mentioned butter not margarine

Oats because the glycemic index is 55 which compared to other swallows which are in the 90s and when a small quantity is paired with Okra with a glycemic index of 20 to 35 works.

I am going to stop here because when it comes to what a diabetic can eat you have nothing to offer. They should eat ACCU-CHEK Abi since that is your only suggestion. When you are ready with your constructive contribution then let’s talk.

It’s infantile to only specialise in a takedown without proferring your own solutions.

DeLaRue:
I disagree.

1.If you're already diabetic, avoid beans o. The beans in Nigeria today are too sweet, and have very little fibre.

2. Making your own bread will not make much difference to a diabetic. Avoid bread.

3. Margarine is very very unhealthy. Avoid.

4. Coconut oil is one of the most saturated oil. Saturated fat = high cholesterol. Avoid. Why would someone dealing with diabetes want to add high cholesterol to his situation. Avoid that oil at all cost.

5. However much you wash rice, it is unlikely to reduce the starch content by more than 20%. That is not going to help a diabetic. A pre-diabetc, may be. A diabetic is in a serious medical situation and must deal with it with all seriousness. So, rice should be out.

6. Oats is very high in carbohydrate, though it has a high fibre too. But the carb level is still too high for a diabetic. Also, like I said in an earlier comment, a diabetic should avoid any food that has been pulverised/grounded from its original state. So, swallow foods are not going to help a diabetic. Avoid them.

7. Sweet potato is a no no. Regular Irish potato in small portions should be fine.

8. How on earth should a diabetic go anywhere near pineapple? That's pure sugar.

In any case, what we write here are general statements, but how each diabetic respond to certain foods may vary from one diabetic to another.

The best thing is to invest a small amount in a blood sugar test kit so you can test yourself about 2 hours after you eat certain foods and write down your blood sugar figure for that food. Do the same for other foods, after some time you will have a better picture of what foods increase your blood sugar level the least, and which ones to avoid.

You can buy ACCU-CHEK from most pharmacies. I hope I am not breaking any Nairaland rule. This is a public interest matter, as diabetes is one of the biggest killers in Nigeria. It is important, we do whatever we can, to pass helpful information around.

Snake meat. Lala can attest.


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twinskenny:
any idea?

kindly help


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Amala works wonder

Be on amala therapy for one week and come back for testimony. I pity those people from the east that look down on amala n ewedu

highchief1:
as a man once u have been told to avoid alcohol know that ur life is finished.wetin really Dey to enjoy for the life.take away alcohol and women life makes no single sense.I am managing my health in a way that I should be able to drink when I want to drink.i don’t want to abuse it now and suffer later.

Enjoyment is relative,most people find enjoyment outside alcohol and women

coputa:
Enjoyment is relative,most people find enjoyment outside alcohol and women

100%.I don’t play bets.some guys sleep in bets.some smoke I have never smoked,I don’t watch soccer,but u see that cold beer and 21yrs old babe,make anybody no play reach der

pandax:
I wish this your viewpoint isn't wrong. You may reverse pre diabetes, but not full blown diabetes

Avoid garri.rice.soft drink . alcohol.yam.most fruits and you will be fine

Brisk walking, garden egg, cucumber, fist portion food quantity with lots of green vegetables, you will be fine

Do everything to avoid the onset of diabetes, especially if you have family history of it

Go to YouTube and search for type 2 diabetes reversal and educate yourself on how to reverse type 2 diabetes.

It is possible to reverse full blown type 2 diabetes and people are doing it. Just that it requires discipline. Intermittent fasting and keto diet are some protocol people use in reversing type 2 diabetes.

Infact any diabetic that can reduce 30% of his weight will invariably reverse his type 2 diabetes in the weight reduction process.

Once reversed, you can eat all foods in moderation.
It's like asking if an alcoholic can reverse alcoholism and if he can take some alcohol after the reversal. An alcoholic can reverse his alcoholism by staying off alcohol for some time, after which he can still take small quantities of alcohol occasionally without issues.

ttoyetade:
Diabetes doesn't go away. Once you start eating the same food that makes you diabetes, it comes back.

Just like malaria doesn't go away, once you treat malaria and you allow mosquitoes to feast on you, the malaria comes back.

If you reverse diabetes you have to eat healthy to remain healthy. If you return to eating food that spike your blood sugar and causes a corresponding insulin spike, then the insulin resistance and diabetes will return.

The human body is not designed for non stop eating and excessive eating of processed carbohydrates without intermittent fasting periods. Abusing the body through poor diet and poor lifestyle is what is causing the diabetes epidemic.

gabbytabby:
Not easy in Nigeria

To eat.

1) Swallow - Oats , Green Plantain check if you can get chia seeds and add a little blended.
2) Vegetables and salad - This should be your main meal you can have your salad with egg. Salad with chicken.
3) Beans the different kinds eg, black eyed, oloyin etc
4) Drinks and fruits - Sour sop, cucumber, make your own hibiscus drink sweetened with dates or pineapple
5) Snack on nuts and edible seeds.
6) Herbs (try to get seeds and plant the ones you can) and Iru instead of maggi and little sea salt. Coriander, parsley, rosemary, garlic, ginger, turmeric etc
7) Go to vegetables is all of the usual suspects ( ugu, waterleaf, bitter leaf, Oha, moringa, Ewedu, Okro, tête, etc)
Meat protein - Fish, Chicken, Turkey, other birds, eggs, little cattle, goat, ram and bush meat.
9) Peppersoup with spices that you ground yourself and add little yam or sweet potatoes and lots of cabbage and carrots vegetables etc to fill you up.
10) Teas - guava leaf, moringa leaf, soursop leaf, hibiscus( zobo) can be served hot as tea.
11) Stews with vegetables.


Avoid if you can rice, boiled yam, Irish potatoes, semo, garri, processed meat (sausages) and soft sweet drinks, bread, spaghetti and indomie, seed oils.

When it comes particularly to carbs which turn to sugar, portion sizes and mixing with fibre is critical

If you can’t avoid then

A) Rice wash 3 times, mix with beans, eat with vegetables or okro and just have one serving spoon.
2) Yam. 1 slice of roasted yam with the back on and eat with vegetables.
3) Irish Potatoes yellow better than white and about 3 medium pieces with vegetables or eggs. Also sweet potato is much better.
4) Semo and garri best to substitute with swallow above ie oat and green plantain otherwise add beetroot or turmeric juice while turning.
5) Suasages substitute with fish or eggs
6) soft drinks and malt substitute with homemade hibiscus drink (zobo) and water. The ones bought are made with saccharine which is deadly for people with diabetes
7) Bread - make your own with lentils or beans look for recipes online. Alternatively not more than 2 slices.
Spaghetti and noodles very small sizes and mix with carrots, cabbage, eggs, salad onion, garlic, peas to fill up.
9) Most of the oil in the market called vegetable oil are seed oils and should be avoided. Most things can be cooked without oil if not use butter(not margarine) or lard from soft animal fat or olive oil and coconut oil. Better to use little palm oil than seed oils.

At the beginning it is difficult but once you set up and you have regular light then it gets better. The mixed herbs I blend fresh and freeze in ice blocks containers and the mixed vegetables I cut and wash and also freeze in portions.

We all have cheat days maybe once a week you just eat a small portion of something you like I do.

Also rest and walks. Intermittent fasting and limiting your food to 2 times a day will also help. I eat at about 10am to 12pm and again between 4pm to 6pm.

To come back and complete

Thanks for this comprehensive advice.

Just to add that people who are mindful of their health long-term need to cut down on the regular carb-heavy naija food even if they don't presently have type 2 diabetes

Agree as this also helps to prevent type 2 diabetes

Iamzik:
Thanks for this comprehensive advice.

Just to add that people who are mindful of their health long-term need to cut down on the regular carb-heavy naija food even if they don't presently have type 2 diabetes

In all these your long comment, you didn't say anything!

The question is, what foods should people suffering from the illness be eating?

musicwriter:
I suffered diabetes for many years and didn't even know it!! It wasn't until I became so lean a couple of years ago (because I was urinating about 20 times within 24 hours) that I realized I was diabetic for years.

I found unripped plantain and beans to be a good friend. Vegetables didn't help in my case, in fact, it makes you urinate more.

I found sugar, rice and garri to be the worst enemy.

All the other things people are saying don't hold water. I found that you should eat your last meal of the day before or by 6 pm. Don't put anything again in your mouth once you've done that. That's all your father needs to do as long as he has avoided starch.

There's this bitter liquid I also used (I forgot the name).

Today , I've cured myself of diabetes without seeing a doctor. I urinated just once last night, in fact, I've urinated just three times since I slept last night till now

twinskenny:
any idea?

kindly help


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Follow "Doctor of Future" on Facebook. You will be glad you did

lendahand:
My father forgot about fufu that year and concentrated on plantain swallow and beans most of the time. He still was growing lean. That illness is deadly. He whose health is good under appreciates God honestly.

Follow "Doctor of Future" on Facebook. You will be glad you did.

Twinskenny all foods are good. It is the combination that is the problem. For example, avoid eating only bread and tea. This will spike your sugar level instead eat bread(brown bread) and beans and either cocumber or cabbage. When eating rice, stop the regular rice and meat ( if you do that). Instead divide your plate into four, 1/4 of it should be rice, 1/4 should be beans and 1/2 should be vegetables. This is pretty much how most of your meal will look like. It's just slight adjustment.

One thing you should know that is very important, once you add vegetable (eg cocumber, cabbage, etc) to your diet, even if it is having a high GL, the vegetable will reduce the GL drastically. That is why it is advisable to always add vegetable to all your meal. Also add things like fish and boiled eggs. Try to reduce things that have to do with oil. Eg fried egg, akara, anything fried. God bless you