₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
The devil.is the Nigerian economy plaguing the pockets of many Nigerians leading to many more choosing cohabitation over documented marriages?

2. Ah, I see! So because she was abandoned by the one guy,that means she is unworthy and at fault, abi? 😩😩😩😩

Yes ! That's the reason. Hope you know what you are typing ?

CorperKola:
➜Economy where people are struggling to survive
➜We will see whether the millionnaires will go round everyone of you natural biological leeches

1. What has the economy to do with this? Are you insinuating that even though a man is not a traditional man as a result of the economic situation, he should be entitled to a traditional wife still?

2. As you believe women to be these natural biological leeches, which you claim, why not engage your fellow men instead? You can marry your fellow men whom you don't see as natural leeches and leave women altogether alone.

Kobojunkie:
The traditional marriage model was created by men in order.to allow men by themselves, by way of 100,% financial contributions to the marriage, the right to be head of household/master over the woman in the marriage. It was a wholly patriarchal move so query your forefathers on the why. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

2. Wising up is far from what is taking place. You, for example, are here busy arguing over how can eat your cake and still have it --- You don't need any to carry 100% financial responsibility throughout the marriage, and you still expect the woman to submit to you even at that. That is stewpidity! 🥱🥱🥱

but the men paid bride price now? You have no point here. In as much the men paid bride price to the family of the bride, they have the authority over their wives. Both the bride and the groom do involved in traditional wedding. It just depends on the type of traditional wedding niiii. Some traditional wedding are of low key wedding why some are of high price wedding.

Kobojunkie:
Results of woman that are submissive? Are you ok at all? Are any women more submissive than women in Northern Nigeria for instance? What is the result there? Do they have great homes and great marriages with a divorce rate as high as 81% in many places thanks to the religion? Isn't it time to snap out of this sordid delusion by now?

tell me the regions that divorce women pass. Don't be hypocritical here

Lanruze:
➜Yes ! That's the reason. Hope you know what you are typing ?

WOW... So, your papa/mama abandons you means you are the problem, abi? The kain individuals Nigeria still dey produce in this day and age, ehn!

Kobojunkie:
I never attended a single traditional marriage in my whole life het I have lots of married Nigerian friends. Look, many people in who you think are married are not even married on paper. So, what makes you think that your traditional marriages are a mistake,abeg! 😩😩😩😩🙄

definitely you are not in Nigeria. There's no wedding that doesn't involve traditional wedding here. Traditional wedding is part of culture of all the tribes in Nigeria.

Truths9ja:
➜tell me the regions that divorce women pass. Don't be hypocritical here

None! The spousal abandonment rate in the South mirrors the divorce rate in the North. The only difference is that the rate in the South is not officially recorded as it is in the North.

Truths9ja:
➜definitely you are not in Nigeria. There's no wedding that doesn't involve traditional wedding here. Traditional wedding is part of culture of all the tribes in Nigeria.

You are lying since many Nigerians opted instead for the court or registry marriages without needing the traditional waste of money.

When you are still a Kobo-Junkie who do i blame ?

Kobojunkie:
WOW... So, your papa/mama abandons you means you are the problem, abi? The kain individuals Nigeria still dey produce in this day and age, ehn!

They want women to do 50/50 and still do chores, birth and cook alone. That is not going to work anymore. Be a traditional man and get your submission.
Simple

Truths9ja:
➜but the men paid bride price now? You have no point here. In as much the men paid bride price to the family of the bride, they have the authority over their wives. Both the bride and the groom do involved in traditional wedding. It just depends on the type of traditional wedding niiii. Some traditional wedding are of low key wedding why some are of high price wedding.

Why does it seem to be that you just enjoy rambling for the sake of it?

Fryx:
Thats not an issue. She is naturally defiant and stubborn.

But it's not an issue. All I care about is faithfulness to me and trust. If we trust each other, it's easier to open up to each other.

She is very stubborn normally and proud. But, she listen to me.

Initially she listens cause she was scared of losing me. I hate leading people with fear because it's dangerous, they will turn against me. So, I had to ease up.

She is free to open up to me because she trust me. I don't trust anyone, but I make sure I convince her that I do. And I find reasons to trust her, so that it will be convincing enough.

But regardless, we are best friends, so we can weather any situation together.

but blocking her dad is wrong and very bad here. You have to sit here down and correct where she's wrong. Definitely she doesn't show respect for her dad. Soon she will disrespect you one day too. She should know her flaws, she should apologise and connect with her dad back.

boxypane:
I wish it was 50/50 in all areas. Na men wey wear skirt full outside now

it's almost 50:50 now. At least women are now been employed either self employed or government employed before venturing into marriage now. No one is ready for any burden again.

Kobojunkie:
Why does it seem to be that you just enjoy rambling for the sake of it?

you are just catching cruise here. Why are you hiding from fact and reality here

Kobojunkie:
You are lying since many Nigerians opted instead for the court or registry marriages without needing the traditional waste of money.

😂 some involved in court wedding, traditional wedding and church wedding. It depends on their capacity to do. It's a choice here

Truths9ja:
➜ you are just catching cruise here. Why are you hiding from fact and reality here

? You have yet to state even a single fact up to this point in the conversation.

Kobojunkie:
There are not that many definitions to the term. So what aspect of the meaning are you having a hard time with?

Your own definition in terms of marriage

Kobojunkie:
None! The spousal abandonment rate in the South mirrors the divorce rate in the North. The only difference is that the rate in the South is not officially recorded as it is in the North.

you aren't connected with what is happening in the Nigeria presently. Divorce rate is much rampant in the Southern more than the northern region. Too much reading don caused much knowledge which results to non submission of spouses. Divorce rate have increased now.

Truths9ja:
➜ 😂 some involved in court wedding, traditional wedding and church wedding. It depends on their capacity to do. It's a choice here

. Traditional ceremonies, along with the other kinds — courts, church, mosque, etc.—are mostly entered into as a formality; it does not decide the marriage model a couple would eventually adopt at the end. Try to keep up, please!

funsho75:
➜Your own definition in terms of marriage

There is no definition in terms of anything. Submission, as the dictionary explains it to everyone, is the action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or the will or authority of another person. It is the same in every agreement, including marriage. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Truths9ja:
➜you aren't connected with what is happening in the Nigeria presently. Divorce rate is much rampant in the Southern more than the northern region. Too much reading don caused much knowledge which results to non submission of spouses. Divorce rate have increased now.

If asked to present proof of this claim of yours, you'll begin to tell stories and fume in the mouth, abi? 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
. Traditional ceremonies, along with the other kinds — courts, church, mosque, etc.—are mostly entered into as a formality; it does not decide the marriage model a couple would eventually adopt at the end. Try to keep up, please!

tell me why marriage of the old couples last long for donkey years? I guess you are not in your husband house if you are a woman here.

Kobojunkie:
If asked to present proof of this claim of yours, you'll begin to tell stories and fume in the mouth, abi? 🥱🥱🥱🥱

check statisense on twitter. Or check Google

Kobojunkie:
There is no definition in terms of anything. Submission, as the dictionary explains it to everyone, is the action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or the will or authority of another person. It is the same in every agreement, including marriage. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Despite every word have dictionary definitions

Sometimes people have individual definitions and also meaning of words are sometimes relative based on usage.



That is why i always believes that the issue of the conversation of submission becoming an issues in marriage is because of definition

Most problem don't even exist, they only exist in our head

Kobojunkie:
There is no definition in terms of anything. Submission, as the dictionary explains it to everyone, is the action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or the will or authority of another person. It is the same in every agreement, including marriage. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

it's about the woman been submissive to the authority of the man .

CorperKola:
U like saying what you do not know becos of arrogance
My grandfatt had 10 wives and each wife was responsible for feeding her own children
So stop saying rubbish
Just admit arrogance is your problem

The way you are so proud of your grandfather's action is so appalling. So because your grandfather did it makes it right abi? Not all men with a functioning p*nnis are worthy to be called men. Do you pray that your daughter marries a man that will not be responsible enough to feed his own children? Thereby leaving your daughter to take up his responsibilities?

I have said it before that marriage is not for everyone!
If a man intends getting married,he should know that his basic responsibility to his woman is to provide,protect and procreate!
A woman must also know that her basic responsibility is to serve and respect her man while maintaining the home!
If you know you cannot do these basic requirements,just stay away from marriage!
No be by force!

CorperKola:
U like saying what you do not know becos of arrogance
My grandfatt had 10 wives and each wife was responsible for feeding her own children
So stop saying rubbish
Just admit arrogance is your problem

I like that this is coming from a man because it is exactly what plays out in most polygamous home. I don't know who started the lie of men providing for their numerous wives in the past. It didn't happen then and it is not happening now. Sums up a Nigerian man's definition of submission + peace or mind.

Goodluck to their model women.💕

ogascomax:
I am against shared responsibilities. Men should handle family responsibilities while the woman manage the homes. That's why I dislike that word of what do a woman bring to the table. The man should simply play is role.

I respect your view bro, and I agree to a large extent.
A real man should be ready to carry the core family responsibilities no doubt.
But the truth is, times have changed.
Some women now earn more, yet still manage the home fully.
So while I agree the man should lead and provide, I believe partnership and understanding still go a long way.
It’s not just about “table” talk, it’s about shared vision.

Truths9ja:
➜ tell me why marriage of the old couples last long for donkey years? I guess you are not in your husband house if you are a woman here.

This question of yours has been thoroughly trashed out here on Nairaland. I suggest you visit the archives so you can realize the answers that have been given over the years to sufficiently explain the reason. Many terrible marriages last donkey years. A better question should be, why should anyone in the current generation be expected to emulate any of them?

funsho75:
➜Despite every word have dictionary definitions Sometimes people have individual definitions and also meaning of words are sometimes relative based on usage. That is why i always believes that the issue of the conversation of submission becoming an issues in marriage is because of definition Most problem don't even exist, they only exist in our head

. That is extreme manipulation at play there when people have their own meanings to suit their personal politics.