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MaxInDHouse:
Well i don't have to drag this with you he has spoken for himself!

Anybody can answer a hypothetical question about anything.
By the way answer my hypothetical question about you staying JW if there was no God

FreeIgboho:
What do you understand worship to mean. Why did Peter and others say "don't worship me" if no one was worshipping them?

Those people called Jesus' disciples by the name of their Gods and brought out the items they use for the worship of their Gods!

FreeIgboho:
Anybody can answer a hypothetical question about anything.
By the way answer my hypothetical question about you staying JW if there was no God

JW is the only proof of God's existence!

So put it this way:

If organization of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't exist will i believe God exist?

My answer is NO!

MaxInDHouse:
Those people called Jesus' disciples by the name of their Gods and brought out the items they use for the worship of their Gods!

You are being economical with the truth and you know it.
Here's Acts 10:
25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshipped him. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”

Can u ever in a million years imagine Jesus saying that?

MaxInDHouse:
JW is the only proof of God's existence!

So put it this way:

If organization of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't exist will i believe God exist?

My answer is NO!

So if u were born at time of Jesus and witnessed all those miracles you wouldn't believe God exists?
That's why JW is called a cult!

FreeIgboho:
You are being economical with the truth and you know it.
Here's Acts 10:
25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshipped him. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
Can u ever in a million years imagine Jesus saying that?

Jesus said that countless times but you I AM worshipers won't agree with him so it's no need!

FreeIgboho:
If u were born at time of Jesus.

Of course i would believe because there are prophecies pointing to the activities of the Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the only evidence that proves God's existence in our time!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said that countless times but you I AM worshipers won't agree with him so it's no need!

This is blasphemy.
Mention any place in the Bible or anywhere else where Jesus told someone not to worship him. How can a divine being even THINK of saying that?!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course i would believe because there are prophecies pointing to the activities of the Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the only evidence that proves God's existence in our time!

You're contradicting yourself. You said you wouldn't believe God exists if JW didn't exist. Well, JW didn't exist!

MaxInDHouse:
His mischaracterisation can't change his comment nor yours i take each person for what they say not what others say about them!

That is good.

FreeIgboho:
This is blasphemy.
Mention any place in the Bible or anywhere else where Jesus told someone not to worship him. How can a divine being even THINK of saying that?!

Read John 17:3 and 20:17

Jesus directed his disciples to the person they should worship in the two verses!

FreeIgboho:
You're contradicting yourself. You said you wouldn't believe God exists if JW didn't exist. Well, JW didn't exist!

You only need to learn!

When John the baptist walked the earth and started fulfilling prophecies about the one who will prepare the way for the Christ Jews living then ran to him because that's a clear evidence that their God is alive!

During Jesus' day his ministry is evidence of God's existence as he fulfilled so many prophecies about the Christ.

Today Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the only evidence that the same God of the Bible is real!

How?

Because none of those things written in the Bible happened in my presence it's all in just that book but when Jehovah's Witnesses began fulfilling what the Bible God promised it's evident that this God is real.


Do you understand now?

MaxInDHouse:
Read John 17:3 and 20:17

Jesus directed his disciples to the person they should worship in the two verses!

You were told to point to one place Jesus told anyone NOT to worship him or rejected worship like everyone else. He is divine!
By the way, you keep saying "I AM" worshippers.
You are one! Yahweh (Jehovah) literally means "I am"!!

FreeIgboho:
You were told to point to one place Jesus told anyone NOT to worship him or rejected worship like everyone else. He is divine!
By the way, you keep saying "I AM" worshippers.
You are one! Yahweh (Jehovah) literally means "I am"!!

Please don't turn this into a comedy nah!

Ọmọ that's not the meaning of Jehovah but since you don't want to learn from us go and find out what YHWH means!

MaxInDHouse:
Please don't turn this into a comedy nah!

Ọmọ that's not the meaning of Jehovah but since you don't want to learn from us go and find out what YHWH means!

See him, "I am who I am" that Jews shortened to "I am". Comedy skit!

FreeIgboho:
See him, "I am who I am" that Jews shortened to "I am". Comedy skit!

Well Yahweh was written as YHVH which many translators preferred to render as JEHOVAH the divine name means
"He causes to become"

As for the phrase your people translated I AM THAT I AM my own Bible rendered

“I Will Become What I Choose to Become.”

So it's not the same as YHWH!

MaxInDHouse:
Well Yahweh was written as YHVH which many translators preferred to render as JEHOVAH the divine name means
"He causes to become"

As for the phrase your people translated I AM THAT I AM my own Bible rendered

“I Will Become What I Choose to Become.”

So it's not the same as YHWH!

Great difference!
Bottom line, Jews shortened it to "I am" as the name of God which you dared not utter. Which was why they were going to stone Jesus for blasphemy!

FreeIgboho:
Great difference!
Bottom line, Jews shortened it to "I am" as the name of God which you dared not utter. Which was why they were going to stone Jesus for blasphemy!

Your own opinion!

They wanted to stone him for claiming he existed before Abraham only heavenly beings are immortal but they knew his father, mother and siblings so to them he blasphemed!

MaxInDHouse:
Your own opinion!

They wanted to stone him for claiming he existed before Abraham only heavenly beings are immortal but they knew his father, mother and siblings so to them he blasphemed!

It is NOT my opinion. Use your head for once instead of SHEEPISHLY following JW doctrine. It was clearly demonstrated that Jesus knew what people would think (another thing you'd associate with God). Obviously he KNEW they'd know what he meant - that he was God! Not only that, he spoke with authority. Now imagine someone who spoke with authority say emphatically "I Am" instead of the grammatically correct "I was".
It is NOT a crime to use your head sometimes!

FreeIgboho:
It is NOT my opinion. Use your head for once instead of SHEEPISHLY following JW doctrine. It was clearly demonstrated that Jesus knew what people would think (another thing you'd associate with God). Obviously he KNEW they'd know what he meant - that he was God! Not only that, he spoke with authority. Now imagine someone who spoke with authority say emphatically "I Am" instead of the grammatically correct "I was".
It is NOT a crime to use your head sometimes!

Perhaps your head should have thought of where your Jesus is working out what God promised in our time before assuming your I AM is Jesus!

@ FreeIgboho please stop mentioning my name i have all the evidence i need that the true God exists because JWs are fulfilling what the Bible God promised in the absence of Jehovah's Witnesses in our time nobody can convince me that there is a God anywhere.

Meanwhile you have turned against your own instructions in the beginning of this thread:

FreeIgboho:
(Please DO NOT come close to insulting anyone's beliefs on this thread, be it directly or indirectly, overtly or covertly. Especially do NOT talk bad about Jehovah's Witnesses or Moslems. Mods please help us ban anyone who violates this)

You have insulted and called us names throughout the pages of your thread yet i maintained my calmness just as you suggested at the beginning of the thread.

Well just know that no religion whatsoever can stand beside Jehovah's Witnesses organization because we have what it takes to prove that there is a God in our midst.

Jehovah said to Jehovah's Witnesses:

“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Isaiah 43:10

So the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses which fulfilled what God promised in the Bible serves as the evidence of God's existence according to the highlighted in blue. In the absence of these activities pointing to what God promised in the Bible there is no proof of God's existence in our time!

Thanks for your time!

FreeIgboho:
I don't know how I phrased it like you said it.
Here's the statement:

... yet you insist that God that exists outside time and in a dimension beyond your comprehension and imagination be coherent to your extremely limited brain!

It ought be obvious you couldn't have said : "God exists outside time and in a dimension beyond my comprehension and imagination"!

You are phrased it like I said a god exists so you could have phrased it better. e.g.: You cannot insist that a god that exists outside time and in a dimension beyond your comprehension and imagination be coherent to your extremely limited brain!

MaxInDHouse:
@ FreeIgboho please stop mentioning my name i have all the evidence i need that the true God exists because JWs are fulfilling what the Bible God promised in the absence of Jehovah's Witnesses in our time nobody can convince me that there is a God anywhere.

Meanwhile you have turned against your own instructions in the beginning of this thread:



You have insulted and called us names throughout the pages of your thread yet i maintained my calmness just as you suggested at the beginning of the thread.

Well just know that no religion whatsoever can stand beside Jehovah's Witnesses organization because we have what it takes to prove that there is a God in our midst.

Jehovah said to Jehovah's Witnesses:

“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Isaiah 43:10

So the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses which fulfilled what God promised in the Bible serves as the evidence of God's existence according to the highlighted in blue. In the absence of these activities pointing to what God promised in the Bible there is no proof of God's existence in our time!

Thanks for your time!

You goaded me into saying something I wouldn't have said!
I mean how can Jews say verbatim:
John 10:33,: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"
Yet you keep insisting they were not going to stone him for claiming to be God! Jeez!
Anyway I didn't mean to be insulting and if you take it as such I hereby withdraw the statement.
But if I don't use "sheepishly" what word would you advice me to use?

LordReed:
You are phrased it like I said a god exists so you could have phrased it better. e.g.: You cannot insist that a god that exists outside time and in a dimension beyond your comprehension and imagination be coherent to your extremely limited brain!

Oh ok, I see your point. It could have been more clearly stated

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps your head should have thought of where your Jesus is working out what God promised in our time before assuming your I AM is Jesus!

Many, many things point to Jesus being God the Son of God. The "I am" thing is only a small part of it. Why not open your mind and see things as they really are? Why must you close your mind?!

FreeIgboho:
You goaded me into saying something I wouldn't have said!
I mean how can Jews say verbatim:
John 10:33,: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"
Yet you keep insisting they were not going to stone him for claiming to be God! Jeez!
Anyway I didn't mean to be insulting and if you take it as such I hereby withdraw the statement.
But if I don't use "sheepishly" what word would you advice me to use?

I said "you don't know anything" and i'll repeat it a million times because most people who insult others for their faith feels pressured to do so though that is a sign they lack SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:23} if you set rules and started breaking it yourself that shows you have nothing to offer.

You called us "CULT" repeatedly yet you're the same person who set the rules that nobody should insult anyone or speak abusively of other people's faith:

FreeIgboho:
(Please DO NOT come close to insulting anyone's beliefs on this thread, be it directly or indirectly, overtly or covertly. Especially do NOT talk bad about Jehovah's Witnesses or Moslems. Mods please help us ban anyone who violates this)

Please i don't deal with weak people who can't live by their own rules so it's better we end this, if you feel like worshiping Jesus as your God go ahead with your I AM worshipers no one is stopping you but saying others should not practice their faith simply because they don't follow your tradition is what Islamists are doing which made the world condemned their religion today!

FreeIgboho:
Many, many things point to Jesus being God the Son of God. The "I am" thing is only a small part of it. Why not open your mind and see things as they really are? Why must you close your mind?!

I can't be open minded than i am doing right now!
I asked you to mention the name of your church you refused ok present the group that is practicing what your I AM teaches so i can learn from them you got provoked, i asked you to list the works of your I AM at least let me see the things that shows there is a living God bearing I AM you insulted me yet you said i should open my mind.
How?
So it's until i say
"i agree your Jesus is God" that's when you will know i've been open minded shey?
Your friend tctrill who said he agreed came to argue with you in the first place:

tctrills:
I choose to believe God and disbelief you. You can know God and he wants us to know him. you are a man claiming it's impossible to know God while God is inviting us to know him. For me, it's a very easy choice.

But shied away when i told both of you that true believers should have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} isn't that the reason you started calling me names?
Ọmọ nobody stops you from worshiping your I AM so go and worship your I AM in peace!

MaxInDHouse:
I can't be open minded than i am doing right now!
I asked you to mention the name of your church you refused ok present the group that is practicing what your I AM teaches so i can learn from them you got provoked, i asked you to list the works of your I AM at least let me see the things that shows there is a living God bearing I AM you insulted me yet you said i should open my mind.
How?
So it's until i say
"i agree your Jesus is God" that's when you will know i've been open minded shey?
Your friend tctrill who said he agreed came to argue with you in the first place:



But shied away when i told both of you that true believers should have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} isn't that the reason you started calling me names?
Ọmọ nobody stops you from worshiping your I AM so go and worship your I AM in peace!

No, I reminded you of your world war with your fellow believer. That was the first and only time I witnessed 2 members of the same group fight an online war. Catholics are ome, Redeemers are one but JW fight online. Keep worshiping your I was.

MaxInDHouse:
I said "you don't know anything" and i'll repeat it a million times because most people who insult others for their faith feels pressured to do so though that is a sign they lack SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:23} if you set rules and started breaking it yourself that shows you have nothing to offer.

You called us "CULT" repeatedly yet you're the same person who set the rules that nobody should insult anyone or speak abusively of other people's faith:



Please i don't deal with weak people who can't live by their own rules so it's better we end this, if you feel like worshiping Jesus as your God go ahead with your I AM worshipers no one is stopping you but saying others should not practice their faith simply because they don't follow your tradition is what Islamists are doing which made the world condemned their religion today!

MaxInDHouse:
I can't be open minded than i am doing right now!
I asked you to mention the name of your church you refused ok present the group that is practicing what your I AM teaches so i can learn from them you got provoked, i asked you to list the works of your I AM at least let me see the things that shows there is a living God bearing I AM you insulted me yet you said i should open my mind.
How?
So it's until i say
"i agree your Jesus is God" that's when you will know i've been open minded shey?
Your friend tctrill who said he agreed came to argue with you in the first place:



But shied away when i told both of you that true believers should have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} isn't that the reason you started calling me names?
Ọmọ nobody stops you from worshiping your I AM so go and worship your I AM in peace!

You just said I don't know anything and that I lack self control, yet those are not insults!
Show me a list of Christian cults that does not include JW.
Here's one partial list of Christian cults

tctrills:
No, I reminded you of your world war with your fellow believer. That was the first and only time I witnessed 2 members of the same group fight an online war. Catholics are ome, Redeemers are one but JW fight online. Keep worshiping your I was.

Prosper1912:
A true Jehovah's Witness always has one line of thought; if you're opposing, bro maxinDhouse , it shows you're not a true Jehovah's Witness.

No JW ever condemn another that impostor registered a new account just to make gullible people like you feel JWs are attacking one another because i exposed false religions as you people can't agree on doctrine.

You can ask him to tell you one single thing i teach here that's not according to JW standard!

As for our own God you and all your folks know us to be Jehovah's Witnesses it's you and your cohorts that's ashamed to mention the name of your churches because you can't speak for your leaders!

Your friend doesn't know that JWs are special people he thought he could use a new account to cause confusion.

Here is the date he registered the account in fact his first comment was so offensive that Nairaland mod had to ban him!

FreeIgboho:
You just said I don't know anything and that I lack self control, yet those are not insults!
Show me a list of Christian cults thay does not include JW.
Here's one partial list of Christian cults

Whoever calls other religions "CULT" you ought to ask him to present his own nah!

That's why i said you don't know anything because unity of faith is what Jesus established among his disciples {John 17:22} therefore confused religionists will surely label Jesus' friends as CULT! Matthew 10:24-25