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| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Everyday247: 10:23am On Jul 03, 2025 |
LordReed:Igtheist? What's that about? ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by tctrills: 11:44am On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:He called you an imposter and now you call him an imposter. A house that fights against itself can never stand. We can't take any of you serious because you have proven that you are a divided house. All my years on Nairaland, I have never seen Catholics behave so stupidly neither have I seen deeper life members act like that. Only JW members fight each other online. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:47pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:You just lying up and down, where did I call you names and when did you ask me all those things? U must be mistaking me for somebody else. And you craftly did not include my response to tctrills. Here it is below: FreeIgboho: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 1:11pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:You have used words such as "cult" ,"robots & "brainwashed" to reference JW's on this forum. Oga , is that how you show respect ? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:22pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Janosky:Show where I personally called him names like he personally called me dumb (that I have no sense), and that I lack self-countrol. Also, show where I called JW robots on this thread or brainwashed. "Cult" is only descriptive - every list of Christian cults always include JW |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 1:39pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:Nobody worshipped Peter or Jesus. It's a great error to use the word "worship" to reference any servant of Jehovah God @ Acts 10:25 or Matthew 2;11. The proper word is homage or obeisance @ Matt 2:11 or Acts 10:25. Because Jehovah's instructions of Deuteronomy 6:13 that Jesus Christ repeated at Matthew 4:10 & Revelation 19:10 is very sacrosanct. Common English Bible 11 They entered the house and saw the child with Mary his mother. Falling to their knees, they honored him. Then they opened their treasure chests and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Read Matthew (CEB) The Darby Translation 11 And having come into the house they saw the little child with Mary his mother, and falling down did him homage" These translations examples used the proper word to refer to Peter and Jesus. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by LordReed(m): 1:46pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Everyday247:Igtheists think the concept of god(s) is incoherent and thus meaningless. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 1:48pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
LordReed:From logic. A mutable thing, a finite thing, a thing that has a beginning, logically cannot be the source of itself. Therefore, the universe being all of these, cannot possibly the source of itself. Ergo, if matter is finite and has a beginning, then its source cannot be matter - thus it must be immaterial. That simplicity leads me to call it nothing other than the universe. I have no reason to call it a god becuase I have simplified it.Above explained is the reason why the universe cannot be the source of all that exists. Look sir: the source of all that exists necessaily must be self existent. A self-existent thing must also necessarily and logically be immutable. The universe is mutable, ergo, it cannot be self-existent and thus it cannot be the source of all that exists. Please do not be tempted to simply say as you often say that these are just word gymnastics - reflect closely on the though development and the logic of what I am giving you. No i don't consider them beings since they have no minds or wills.The point I am trying to put to you is that whatever GOD is, you cannot look at it they way you look at individuals in the human sense. IT far exceeds not just us, but the entire universe, and so be careful with applying anthropormorphic considerations. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 2:09pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho: FreeIgboho: See this one, you and Maxindhouse. That's exactly what happens with a pathetic cult That label (whether you call it "christian cult" is very wrong.Jesus said "Be my follower". Do you disagree with Jesus or dissent ANY of his instructions? Every indices to qualify that label is applicable to whichever group or denomination you adhere to or practice. You are not by any means exempted. You point one finger at JW's while your four fingers point back at you. ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 2:21pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Dem dey pay all kinds of monthly fees (without dissent) to pastors wey go sign their payment card like Osusu contribution. Dem dey buy holy water for protection. Nah the same people dey open mouth shout "christian cult to label JW's. ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 2:40pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:New American Standard Bible Matthew 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY" SERVE & WORSHIP ONLY Jehovah. Emphasis on the word "ONLY". Oga,DO NOT ADD to Jesus instruction copied from his Father's command @ Deuteronomy 6:13. John 12:49-50, Oga did Jesus Christ ADD to his Father's instructions? Nah your fellow Trinitarians post this screenshot on Facebook. Go and verify. ![]()
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| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 2:52pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:Psalm 107:1 "Give thanks to Jehovah, for He is good." We have a great regard for Jesus Christ. John 20:17 our God Jehovah is his God. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 2:57pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:Oga, I challenge you to use your Bible provide evidence where Jesus instructed you to worship 2 Spirits. ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 3:03pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
[/b] FreeIgboho: Just to show you not everything has to be verbatim. People obviously implicitly thanked Jesus in the Bible. Point is, we know JW are far from Jesus-centric, quite the opposite. That's why you sound so fake[b]Oga, what is fake about John 12:49-50 & Matthew 4:10? John 12:49-50 & Matthew 4:10, Jesus Christ gave us the instruction that God his Father taught him from Deuteronomy 6:13. I must gladly obey. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 3:04pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Bro, make him bring evidence that John 12:49-50 & Matthew 4:10 no dey him Bible. ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 3:09pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho: Oga, put Ephesians 3:14-15 in your heart. Jesus Christ converted & taught Paul the apostle. Una too dey deceive yourselves. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 3:49pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
LordReed:So you are an Igtheist? If so, you should not even discuss the subject at all. As far as I understand, it would be like discussing the existence of a square circle. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Everyday247: 4:03pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
LordReed:What do you mean by incoherent? Improbability? How's that different from atheism? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:17pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
tctrills:Ẹjọ́ ẹ, máa wí bẹ́ẹ̀ kiri! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:18pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho:Did you call Jehovah's Witnesses CULT? ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:20pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Janosky:He set rules but cannot live by his own rules. What a pity? ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:26pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Janosky:He is so funny that he forgot to keep his own words to heart: FreeIgboho:I wonder if he really meant what he typed here or he was in a trance when typing the above! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Emusan(m): 4:37pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Janosky:If nobody worshipped Peter, why did Peter act this way by saying: 'But Peter lifted him up, saying: “Rise; I too am just a man.” - NWT Are people not taking honor or obeisance from people? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Emusan(m): 4:40pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:So it pains you whenever JWs are being called CULT but I thought you always happy with it as Jesus was also called ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:54pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Emusan:You're always running off point! This is what the young man typed with his own hands: FreeIgboho:My point: Is he obeying his own rules? ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Emusan(m): 5:03pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Calling JWs 'CULT' might not be an insult to him but a fact, it's left for you to ask him. But for you to point that out and see it as INSULT shows it hits you badly even though you always pretend to be proud of it since Jesus was called same. So my point still stands. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Emusan: FreeIgboho:There is no need arguing with you! ![]() |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Emusan(m): 6:29pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:And the question remains, saying JWs are cults is that an insult? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 8:33pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
Emusan:No mind MaxIndhouse. All these were thrashed out in posts, as you can see below: FreeIgboho: FreeIgboho: It was clearly demonstrated that Jesus knew what people would think (another thing you'd associate with God). Obviously he KNEW they'd know what he meant - that he was God! Not only that, he spoke with authority. Now imagine someone who spoke with authority say emphatically "I Am" instead of the grammatically correct "I was" FreeIgboho: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Janosky: 9:04pm On Jul 03, 2025 |
FreeIgboho: @Deuteronomy 6:4 The Jews believe there is only one God, Jehovah. @ John 10:33,(confirmed by John 19:7) the Jews believed Jesus is NOT the God of Deuteronomy 6:4. Your Trinitarian mentors gave biased rendition of John 10:33. Them change am to capital G. The same small letter Theos (god) is @ 2 Corinthians 4:4, Acts 28:6, 1 Corinthians 8:4 Screenshot evidence. ![]() Jesus quoted Psalms 82:6 (@ John 10:34-36) to prove he is a god because God his Father calls his son a god. Jesus is a god, the Son of God. God's Sons=gods.
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