₦airaland Forum

immaculatesense:
Lol...you know how much I make monthly?
30k? Ridiculous.

Minimum wage is not for you guys na. You are not on govt payroll. Or have they added something to the 30k.

safarifarms:
Minimum wage is not for you guys na. You are not on govt payroll. Or have they added something to the 30k.

Sir. I am fully on government payroll ooo, but it's in Millions. Thanks for the compliment.

alphaconde:
One governor refused to collect pension and another one collected.

Considering the level of development in Nigeria, justify the choice of the second

This is the first time someone will say that collecting ones entitlements is crime! Pension is an entitlement and if collecting it is not against the law, I see no reason why you should mention it. Stop being holier than thou.

immaculatesense:
Sir. I am fully on government payroll ooo, but it's in Millions. Thanks for the compliment.

Lol.

I believe you. Was just pulling your legs o. You know your co-travellers always like to categorize every opposition voice to Igbo, IPOB etc. And follow it up with insults while pushing the narratives that supporters of PO are the only ones insulting. But you've so far responded as a civilized person unlike the others. My surprise however is how a reasonable person like you will be an APC supporter. Is it a tribe thing for you or a strong dislike for the other tribe?
I'm not Igbo by the way. And I wish we could support who we want to support based on personal convictions and not sentiments or tribe.

immaculatesense:
The error I made?
Go and correct the supposed error INEC made and put Obi in Aso Rock.
I think that's where your correction is needed the more.

Those who commit crime with the backings of the state institutions are likely to have this type of impunity. But winter is coming.

Misterone:
This is the first time someone will say that collecting ones entitlements is crime! Pension is an entitlement and if collecting it is not against the law, I see no reason why you should mention it. Stop being holier than thou.

there are alot of public servants who retired and have gotten their pension even though small.

You are as good as the people in government.

You deserve them.

My prayer is that your life experience as much goodness as the government of the country is given its people.

MrSly:
Those who commit crime with the backings of the state institutions are likely to have this type of impunity. But winter is coming.

Lol.
There is no winter in Nigeria. Are you making reference to US election in 2028?

safarifarms:
Lol.

I believe you. Was just pulling your legs o. You know your co-travellers always like to categorize every opposition voice to Igbo, IPOB etc. And follow it up with insults while pushing the narratives that supporters of PO are the only ones insulting. But you've so far responded as a civilized person unlike the others. My surprise however is how a reasonable person like you will be an APC supporter. Is it a tribe thing for you or a strong dislike for the other tribe?
I'm not Igbo by the way. And I wish we could support who we want to support based on personal convictions and not sentiments or tribe.

Thanks for the compliment.
To your question.
Before TINUBU became president, I have always advocated for policies that will:
1. Remove fuel subsidy.
2. Unify the exchange rates.
3. Kickstart policies that will lead to true federalism.
4. Update and upgrade out tax laws.
5. Etc

All this policies and reforms have their consequences and I know them. I am a Nigerian and I am also feeling the impact of the reforms of the government. It's painful but it's a bitter pill necessary to swallow.
I am supporting this administration because I can see the reforms/sacrifices I have analysed over the years. Why should I dump it for a new ideology I am not sure of?

Thanks.

immaculatesense:
Yes ooo. Bullion van money dey sweet pass "We no dey give shishi" ooo.
Thanks for the compliment. I expect more bullion van money in 2027 while you expect more wailing.

18 more bullion vans to you .in short you be recruited to help in manufacturing bullion vans spare parts

specialmati:
18 more bullion vans to you .in short you be recruited to help in manufacturing bullion vans spare parts

Ahhh...that one na big contract ooo. I go go do Thanksgiving for church next Sunday be dat ooo. Lol

immaculatesense:
Thanks for the compliment.
To your question.
Before TINUBU became president, I have always advocated for policies that will:
1. Remove fuel subsidy.
2. Unify the exchange rates.
3. Kickstart policies that will lead to true federalism.
4. Update and upgrade out tax laws.
5. Etc

All this policies and reforms have their consequences and I know them. I am a Nigerian and I am also feeling the impact of the reforms of the government. It's painful but it's a bitter pill necessary to swallow.
I am supporting this administration because I can see the reforms/sacrifices I have analysed over the years. Why should I dump it for a new ideology I am not sure of?

Thanks.

I agree with the fuel subsidy removal and unification of the exchange rates. For the tax reforms, I think its a bit technical for me to understand that one clearly. However isn't it ironical that the same Tinubu that removed the subsidy on day one was the same person that sponsored protests against subsidy removal during Johnathan's administration? My major gross with his is his selfishness which I personally see as producing wickedness. If he and his friends had allowed the gradual removal of subsidy during Johnathan's time which I had supported, we won't have felt the impact as we are feeling now. But out of selfishness to frustrate Johnathan and make things difficult for him he prepared the stage for the suffering we are facing now. He knew very well right from that time that subsidy wasn't sustainable but he deceived his followers and they claimed there was nothing like subsidy.

This is just one of the many lies they told against Johnathan to make Nigerians hate him so that he can have opportunity to get to power. I think its the worst of selfishness I've seen in Nigerian politics.

safarifarms:
I agree with the fuel subsidy removal and unification of the exchange rates. For the tax reforms, I think its a bit technical for me to understand that one clearly. However isn't it ironical that the same Tinubu that removed the subsidy on day one was the same person that sponsored protests against subsidy removal during Johnathan's administration? My major gross with his is his selfishness which I personally see as producing wickedness. If he and his friends had allowed the gradual removal of subsidy during Johnathan's time which I had supported, we won't have felt the impact as we are feeling now. But out of selfishness to frustrate Johnathan and make things difficult for him he prepared the stage for the suffering we are facing now. He knew very well right from that time that subsidy wasn't sustainable but he deceived his followers and they claimed there was nothing like subsidy.

This is just one of the many lies they told against Johnathan to make Nigerians hate him so that he can have opportunity to get to power. I think its the worst of selfishness I've seen in Nigerian politics.

Good point.
I have always had that against him too.
HE WAS WRONG to have protested against Jonathan's removal of subsidy. He played politic with that and now the opposition is playing politics with his reforms which are in themselves good reforms.
He won against Jonathan. The question is, Will the opposition win against him? That is a question begging an answer.
VERDICT:
Protest against Jonathan: He was wrong.
His current reforms: He is right.

Thanks.

immaculatesense:
Ahhh...that one na big contract ooo. I go go do Thanksgiving for church next Sunday be dat ooo. Lol

ok I have told agbero chairman to make it 38 bullion vans for you,since you will do Thanksgiving for church next Sunday

specialmati:
ok I have told agbero chairman to make it 38 bullion vans for you,since you will do Thanksgiving for church next Sunday

So, you have the contact of the agbero chairman? You must be boss then. Tuale for you oo

immaculatesense:
So, you have the contact of the agbero chairman? You must be boss then. Tuale for you oo

I like humble agberos like you so you will receive 64 bullion vans this time

specialmati:
I like humble agberos like you so you will receive 64 bullion vans this time

Tuale boss.
Live long.
I go dey expect alert.

immaculatesense:
Tuale boss.
Live long.
I go dey expect alert.

alaye go hustle for bus stop no shi shi for you

alphaconde:
there are alot of public servants who retired and have gotten their pension even though small.

You are as good as the people in government.

You deserve them.

My prayer is that your life experience as much goodness as the government of the country is given its people.

Your prayer is bunkum! Life is all about perspectives. Some people see the cup half empty while some see it half full. Some only see the plate of rice and beans in front of them while see seeds for planting and harvest.

alphaconde:
there are alot of public servants who retired and have gotten their pension even though small.

You are as good as the people in government.

You deserve them.

My prayer is that your life experience as much goodness as the government of the country is given its people.

Is Lagos State owing pension!

immaculatesense:
Good point.
I have always had that against him too.
HE WAS WRONG to have protested against Jonathan's removal of subsidy. He played politic with that and now the opposition is playing politics with his reforms which are in themselves good reforms.
He won against Jonathan. The question is, Will the opposition win against him? That is a question begging an answer.
VERDICT:
Protest against Jonathan: He was wrong.
His current reforms: He is right.

Thanks.

I don't like people who can be so selfish to the extent of putting the whole nation in a critical position just so he can get to power. I don't know how you guys deal with that. I'm not able to deal with that.

safarifarms:
I don't like people who can be so selfish to the extent of putting the whole nation in a critical position just so he can get to power. I don't know how you guys deal with that. I'm not able to deal with that.

Maybe I should jettison all the teachings of Paul in the scriptures. How can someone who persecuted my faith and worked for its extinction be the person who wrote the largest part of the book I now believe.

The fat that TINUBU was wrong some 13 years ago doesn't mean that I shouldn't hail him when he does what is right.
Point to just One person who has never reneged on his promise in the past and I will point it out (in numerous ways).

Thanks.

specialmati:
alaye go hustle for bus stop no shi shi for you

Ahhhhh...
Make I dey go park straight ooo.
You don put me for once chance

Wait ooo.

Shey no be like dey OBI wan put naija for one chance. Make e no be like so o.

Lol

immaculatesense:
Ahhhhh...
Make I dey go park straight ooo.
You don put me for once chance

Wait ooo.

Shey no be like dey OBI wan put naija for one chance. Make e no be like so o.

Lol

others they enter asorock with bag,it get to una agbero chairman time .him carry bullion vans enter.how person with bullion vans wan take look your face.always be at busstops early to see something chop ooh

immaculatesense:
Maybe I should jettison all the teachings of Paul in the scriptures. How can someone who persecuted my faith and worked for its extinction be the person who wrote the largest part of the book I now believe.

The fat that TINUBU was wrong some 13 years ago doesn't mean that I shouldn't hail him when he does what is right.
Point to just One person who has never reneged on his promise in the past and I will point it out (in numerous ways).

Thanks.

I think the case of Paul is quite different. Paul did what he did (the persecution) out of ignorance and he pursued it with strong conviction that he was doing the right thing (the work of God). And when Paul saw the light, he now pursued the truth with the same vigour.

However, in this case we are talking about a politician who knew the truth that subsidy was not right but instead of supporting it's removal, he deliberately used the removal as a weapon, deceived his ignorant followers and urged them to protest saying that subsidy wasn't a problem but the problem was corruption. They should remove corruption but not subsidy. Mind you the corruption was also being tackled. Many marketers were being investigated (not sure they got to prosecution yet at the time).

I find it hard to support a man who saw what was right and won't support it, instead deceived people to support what was wrong just for his personal selfish interest. And I will blame Tinubu much more than Buhari because aside from being the one who bankrolled the protest, he is an accountant and understands very well what he was doing. Buhari may not have understood it and may have just believed what Tinubu was saying. So 13 years later, he now removes the subsidy abruptly causing serious ripple effects to the masses that he claimed he was protecting when he was protesting against Jonathan. The man is too greedy and wicked.

James 4:17 (Message Translation)
As it is, you are full of your grandiose selves. All such vaunting self-importance is evil. In fact, if you know the right thing to do and don’t do it, that, for you, is evil.

Same man was upset and against Buhari's cashless policy which was already beginning to cripple kidnapping in the country, just because it threatened his vote buying election plans. His supporters quickly got in action and got the courts to frustrate the policy. Today kidnapping has taken a terrible turn and Nigerians are bleeding.

I will expect every Nigeria who reasons far not to support such a man. It's always more about his personal interest 1st.

safarifarms:
I think the case of Paul is quite different. Paul did what he did (the persecution) out of ignorance and he pursued it with strong conviction that he was doing the right thing (the work of God). And when Paul saw the light, he now pursued the truth with the same vigour.

However, in this case we are talking about a politician who knew the truth that subsidy was not right but instead of supporting it's removal, he deliberately used the removal as a weapon, deceived his ignorant followers and urged them to protest saying that subsidy wasn't a problem but the problem was corruption. They should remove corruption but not subsidy. Mind you the corruption was also being tackled. Many marketers were being investigated (not sure they got to prosecution yet at the time).

I find it hard to support a man who saw what was right and won't support it, instead deceived people to support what was wrong just for his personal selfish interest. And I will blame Tinubu much more than Buhari because aside from being the one who bankrolled the protest, he is an accountant and understands very well what he was doing. Buhari may not have understood it and may have just believed what Tinubu was saying. So 13 years later, he now removes the subsidy abruptly causing serious ripple effects to the masses that he claimed he was protecting when he was protesting against Jonathan. The man is too greedy and wicked.

James 4:17 (Message Translation)
As it is, you are full of your grandiose selves. All such vaunting self-importance is evil. In fact, if you know the right thing to do and don’t do it, that, for you, is evil.

Same man was upset and against Buhari's cashless policy which was already beginning to cripple kidnapping in the country, just because it threatened his vote buying election plans. His supporters quickly got in action and got the courts to frustrate the policy. Today kidnapping has taken a terrible turn and Nigerians are bleeding.

I will expect every Nigeria who reasons far not to support such a man. It's always more about his personal interest 1st.

We can't be sure Paul did what he did out of ignorance. The only thing the scriptures pointed at was that he was zealous for the law. I may be zealous for my tribe against other tribes and persecute them, that doesn't mean I did it out of ignorance, but when I repent I will only tell the people that it was time of ignorance. Didn't his conscience prick on him when they were stoning Stephen? Paul's case was zealous not ignorance.

specialmati:
others they enter asorock with bag,it get to una agbero chairman time .him carry bullion vans enter.how person with bullion vans wan take look your face.always be at busstops early to see something chop ooh

From bags to bullion van? Na levels be dat ooo. Maybe never election we go upgrade to "Money Minting Machine (MMM). Abi u no think so?

LOL.

immaculatesense:
From bags to bullion van? Na levels be dat ooo. Maybe never election we go upgrade to "Money Minting Machine (MMM). Abi u no think so?

LOL.

then how do you expect a man with bullion vans to asorock to make Nigeria a better country.abi you dont want a government to will make life better for you instead of running after buses at bus stops to feed

immaculatesense:
We can't be sure Paul did what he did out of ignorance. The only thing the scriptures pointed at was that he was zealous for the law. I may be zealous for my tribe against other tribes and persecute them, that doesn't mean I did it out of ignorance, but when I repent I will only tell the people that it was time of ignorance. Didn't his conscience prick on him when they were stoning Stephen? Paul's case was zealous not ignorance.

Yes he was zealous. My verdict that he was ignorant is inferred. He was a master in the law and what he did was according to the law. What else did he know at the time. Most of the Jews till date are still waiting for the Messiah. They don't believe Jesus is the Messiah. They are still persecuting Christians. By their understanding Christ and Christians are law breakers. Their interpretation of the prophecy of the Messiah is of one that will be a reigning king with a Kingdom of this world, not one who will die a shameful death on the cross (meant for criminals).

1 Cor 1:23
23but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

What an interesting derailment to the gospel.

But you left the major point which was that Tinubu knew but choose to do otherwise which the bible calls evil.

safarifarms:
Yes he was zealous. My verdict that he was ignorant is inferred. He was a master in the law and what he did was according to the law. What else did he know at the time. Most of the Jews till date are still waiting for the Messiah. They don't believe Jesus is the Messiah. They are still persecuting Christians. By their understanding Christ and Christians are law breakers. Their interpretation of the prophecy of the Messiah is of one that will be a reigning king with a Kingdom of this world, not one who will die a shameful death on the cross (meant for criminals).

1 Cor 1:23
23but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

What an interesting derailment to the gospel.

But you left the major point which was that Tinubu knew but choose to do otherwise which the bible calls evil.

We were using simile with the life of Paul.
How did you know TINUBU knew that removing subsidy was a good decision for Nigeria as at 2012? Because as at 2012 I am not of that opinion but later in 2017 I knew. Time changes opinion.

Remember, TINUBU advised Buhari to print more money then but now he hates printing money.

TIME AND SEASONS CHANGE.

specialmati:
then how do you expect a man with bullion vans to asorock to make Nigeria a better country.abi you dont want a government to will make life better for you instead of running after buses at bus stops to feed

Guy.
My life is far better than 3 years ago and other years back.
Every government na two edged sword; it favors some and not to the others.

Point of correction, what GEJ (actually it was Nkonjo Iweala who really wanted it, even GEJ was not sure of it) did then was fuel price increment. That was why he shifted the price from 87 to 157 and finally 137 naira.

The real subsidy removal was done by BAT. When you remove subsidy, you do not fix a price for it but allow market forces decide. In the past 2 years, we have all seen how the price has been fluctuating depending on crude price and other factors.\

Second lie is that Tinubu protested, no it was Nigerians that protested. How do you on Junuary 1st without any previous warning just increase pump price? Tinubu on the other hand already said subside will not stay in his administration no matter what even if people protest, so once he won, anyone should have anticipated it.

safarifarms:
I agree with the fuel subsidy removal and unification of the exchange rates. For the tax reforms, I think its a bit technical for me to understand that one clearly. However isn't it ironical that the same Tinubu that removed the subsidy on day one was the same person that sponsored protests against subsidy removal during Johnathan's administration? My major gross with his is his selfishness which I personally see as producing wickedness. If he and his friends had allowed the gradual removal of subsidy during Johnathan's time which I had supported, we won't have felt the impact as we are feeling now. But out of selfishness to frustrate Johnathan and make things difficult for him he prepared the stage for the suffering we are facing now. He knew very well right from that time that subsidy wasn't sustainable but he deceived his followers and they claimed there was nothing like subsidy.

This is just one of the many lies they told against Johnathan to make Nigerians hate him so that he can have opportunity to get to power. I think its the worst of selfishness I've seen in Nigerian politics.