₦airaland Forum

Bentacur007:
We need to remove Tinubu first
I can support Atiku.

Penguin2:
I don’t know for certain but I believe the coalition shouldn’t throw open their primary. They should agree on a presidential candidate and running mate and hold a congress just for formalities.

However, I recognize that if a primary is thrown open, Atiku will get it. But I can assure you that Obi won’t be part of that arrangement.

In the end, the success or failure of the coalition is in the hands of the drivers. Take Obi out and the coalition is dead.

MaziObinnaokija:
@ least Papa OSELOKA is online twitter,Agulu president.
He'll go back to AGULU LAND after election

flokii:
So Obi left Datti Ahmed in LP and ran to ADC to meet Atiku?.
The Agulu man and his crooked ways.

koning:
Any attempt at primaries will be seen as a ploy to choose Atiku. There should be no primaries.

When APC was formed out of a coalition of CPC, ACN, ANPP and a faction of PDP, Buhari was simply selected and ordained by Tinubu.
There was an agreement.

casualobserver:
He didn’t win his election and he didn’t win his court case and if we search, you are probably one off those who said his lawyer has never lost a case.

As for Amaechi, I said if he doesn’t play ball. He may offer it to Amaechi and the majority of Obidients will vote for him since Obi would have snookered himself. The argument was put forward to emphasize that Obi’s only destination in this coalition is VP. Once he leaves LP his fate is sealed!

koning:
Any attempt at primaries will be seen as a ploy to choose Atiku. There should be no primaries.

When APC was formed out of a coalition of CPC, ACN, ANPP and a faction of PDP, Buhari was simply selected and ordained by Tinubu.
There was an agreement.

Penguin2:
Obi’s only destination isn’t VP.

The position of who will be presidential candidate is evenly between Atiku or Obi. There is no third, and you know it.

Now, with the sentiments that South should still retain power for 4 years, the odds favour Obi more.

But these things will count for you because you already have predetermined points in your mind that you do not believe anything can alter.

But let me remind you that that was how you guys doubted Obi in 2023 until they had to shutdown the IREV to stop him.

hotseat:
So, Peter Obi, the trader, prefers to be called a One-Time-President (OTP)?


Chai!


Who talk say president no sweet?


The only problem with your proposal is that there's currently no vacancy in Aso Villa.


Again, for an Atiku to agree to becoming a Vice to an Obi, would most definitely bring his political career to an abrupt and disgraceful end.


Definitely, not after going this far in his (Atiku's) bid of becoming President of the FRN.


I repeat for the umpteenth time, PO may not even have a platform to contest come 2027.


Any attempt at staging a comeback to the LP would be vehemently resisted by the Abure-led faction.


PO is currently facing the litmus test of his political career.


Take a look at your crystal ball.



@hotseat

Bentacur007:
We need to remove Tinubu first
I can support Atiku.

Penguin2:
In 2023, it was difficult for Obi to get votes in the north because first, his running mate was unpopular, and second, the Igbo factor.

But are you telling me that if he becomes candidate of the coalition with the support of people like Atiku, Elrufai, Babangida Aliyu, Sule Lamido, etc, these men won’t still be able to garner votes for Obi in the north?

And you are really telling me to my face that northerners are so daft that after all the hunger they have gone through since Tinubu came into power, they will still choose Muslim Muslim ticket over respite?

Kukutente23:
Let me ask you a question. Why do you think someone like Kwankwaso or any of those big names refused to Vice Obi in 2023 and he had to go for a relatively unknown Datti and what do you think has changed this time?

You are free to call northerners names. The fact still remain that this is politics we are talking about and they are not followers of your Obi just as they are not followers of Tinubu.

In voting Obi what will be paramount will be political interest not hunger. Can you with all certainty promise anyone that if Obi becomes president, he will end their hunger? People are not fools you know. The fact is Obi is a southerner just like Tinubu. If the South want only 8 years, Tinubu has done 4 and cannot do more than another 4. Obi on the other hand has the possibility of an 8 year rule. Tell me, if you were in the shoe of the northerners, which will be your safest bet for getting political power back to your region in 2031?

DeepSight:
Jonathan.

Penguin2:
And to state this for the one millionth time, without Obi the coalition is dead. No one else among them can move Nigerians and they know it.

casualobserver:
This is true and this we know, this is why they are setting the trap for him. Once he leaves LP, his fate is sealed! He does not have the delegates like I have told you to get the presidential ticket.

They both need each other, distrust each other but have to work together. They both know due to age or rotation, it is 2027 or never. This is why those who understand politics understand that the coalition is DOA!

The most Obi can get is VP ticket….that is his ceiling!

Toks2008:
I dont know why you guys keep thinking this way.

Even obi will be delusional if he ever thinks he can win the presidential ticket in ADC. A tiku will most likely get it and the best bet is for obi to be his vice.

Except you all want Tinubu to do 4 more years, we should all rally behind Atiku/obi ticket.

The primaries in ADC will be thrown open and Atiku will surely clinch it.

Penguin2:
In 2023, it was difficult for Obi to get votes in the north because first, his running mate was unpopular, and second, the Igbo factor.

But are you telling me that if he becomes candidate of the coalition with the support of people like Atiku, Elrufai, Babangida Aliyu, Sule Lamido, etc, these men won’t still be able to garner votes for Obi in the north?

And you are really telling me to my face that northerners are so daft that after all the hunger they have gone through since Tinubu came into power, they will still choose Muslim Muslim ticket over respite?

koning:
Any attempt at primaries will be seen as a ploy to choose Atiku. There should be no primaries.

When APC was formed out of a coalition of CPC, ACN, ANPP and a faction of PDP, Buhari was simply selected and ordained by Tinubu.
There was an agreement.

casualobserver:
Tell that to your people who think Obi can get the ticket. I am Tinubu 4+4.

casualobserver:
You people are so delusional! The is no even anything. This is a Northern agenda. They even pointedly told Dumebi Kachikwu during negotiations when he asked their attitude towards the south completing its 8yrs that “we are taking our power back”.

Obi’s only value in this coalition is his voter block.

To you and all who can’t see the flyer from the forests, I have been telling you how things will play out since 2022 and I have NEVER been wrong. Feel free to believe there will be a fair contest or that Obi will become the flag bearer talk less win. Let’s just wait till then and strike a deal that if I am right once again, you finally admit that you don’t understand Nigerian politics and maybe I read political situations better than you do and if you turn out to be right that I do t know what I am talking about? Deal?

Kusu12:
A serial party hopper — APGA, PDP, LP, and who knows what's next — with no clear ideology, cannot be trusted. A man who publicly swore never to leave APGA but did just that lacks integrity.

Someone who performed woefully in a small state like Anambra for 8 years is now posing as Mr. Know-It-All, suddenly claiming he has the magic wand to fix Nigeria’s complex problems in 4 years? This is a disaster waiting to happen. Interesting times ahead.

Kusu12:
A serial party hopper — APGA, PDP, LP, and who knows what's next — with no clear ideology, cannot be trusted. A man who publicly swore never to leave APGA but did just that lacks integrity.

Someone who performed woefully in a small state like Anambra for 8 years is now posing as Mr. Know-It-All, suddenly claiming he has the magic wand to fix Nigeria’s complex problems in 4 years? This is a disaster waiting to happen. Interesting times ahead.

Kukutente23:
Let me ask you a question. Why do you think someone like Kwankwaso or any of those big names refused to Vice Obi in 2023 and he had to go for a relatively unknown Datti and what do you think has changed this time?

You are free to call northerners names. The fact still remain that this is politics we are talking about and they are not followers of your Obi just as they are not followers of Tinubu.

In voting Obi what will be paramount will be political interest not hunger. Can you with all certainty promise anyone that if Obi becomes president, he will end their hunger? People are not fools you know. The fact is Obi is a southerner just like Tinubu. If the South want only 8 years, Tinubu has done 4 and cannot do more than another 4. Obi on the other hand has the possibility of an 8 year rule. Tell me, if you were in the shoe of the northerners, which will be your safest bet for getting political power back to your region in 2031?

casualobserver:
You people are so delusional! The is no even anything. This is a Northern agenda. They even pointedly told Dumebi Kachikwu during negotiations when he asked their attitude towards the south completing its 8yrs that “we are taking our power back”.

Obi’s only value in this coalition is his voter block.

To you and all who can’t see the flyer from the forests, I have been telling you how things will play out since 2022 and I have NEVER been wrong. Feel free to believe there will be a fair contest or that Obi will become the flag bearer talk less win. Let’s just wait till then and strike a deal that if I am right once again, you finally admit that you don’t understand Nigerian politics and maybe I read political situations better than you do and if you turn out to be right that I do t know what I am talking about? Deal?

Toks2008:
IF HE BECOMES THE CANDIDATE but you and i know that wont happen.

The most logical calculation is for Atiku to win the ticke and obi becoming his vice, let atiku rule for 8 years and obi takes over. Common sense.

casualobserver:
Mark this post!


This coalition is an Atiku coalition. It is an Atiku SPV!

The only person who can see is Datti! Look at the people you are in bed with, do you think they are prepared for a free and fair fight? Do you think they will line up behind Obi? Do people like Malami and ElRifai look like people willing to accept Obi as President or people who need the votes of his supporters?

Already as they speak they are lining up their delegates! Northern states traditionally have the highest No of delegates in any party primaries , is it Obi that will control them? Some one who hasn’t officially joined the party yet and did not do well in the North last time? Is it Kebbi with Malami, Kwara with Abdulahi, Osun with Aregbe, Benue with Mark, or Adamawa with Atiku whose delegates will vote for Obi? Look at the coloration of the alliance, which states can Obi get delegates from? Amaechi will do a delegates deal with Atiku, so will Aregbe!

Obi will not win the primaries. Even in a free and fair fight he won’t win the primaries against Atiku. By the time he is a candidate in the primaries, it means he has left LP since you can’t be a member of 2 parties. Once he loses the primaries, he is stuck and can’t leave to start searching for a new party without damaging his reputation, so he will be forced to take the VP slot. If he doesn’t play along,, it will be handed over to Amaechi. Obidients In the end they will be forced to vote for Atiku……coup completed!

Obi knows this, he also knows he needs the coalition and that is his dilema.

Get used to the idea that either way Obi is not becoming President!


I am on a self imposed exile from Nairaland but I am breaking it this once to post this for the record.