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otherway:
Japaying is always the best if you are going with rights to work.

Wether UK, America, anywhere as long as you have the right to live and work.

Most of those people saying abroad hard have no documents to live and work.
For instance, in UK, with postgraduate study visa of 18months you go save about 40 Million naira in just that 18months

Because you have rights to work you can do two jobs making like 2500 after tax

You rent all inclusive bills room for 600

Eat with 200

Transport and phone data 100

Miscellaneous 300

That is 1200 remaining 1300

Save 1300 x 18 =£23,400 about 55M

Is that not a good investment?

This is the best comment so far but only if you are truly in uk and not hearsay or you are not a travel agent.
I've been thinking about how one can get back his money in case one couldn't get sponsorship for job in uk and this comment gives me hope.
Thanks for sharing sir.

Some people here knows nothing about those countries they suggested.
How can 20M take someone to Canada where even living cost is more than 2M per month and job is scarce.

Australia is more affordable than New Zealand but difficult to get pr.
Switzerland is expensive.
Finland and Ireland are joke.
New Zealand has poor pay jobs (even the citizens are running away to Australia).

Your best bet with that amount is UK but the new changes in immigration rules has ruined it.
Unless you want to make more money within the 18 months after your masters and Japa to Canada.
Canada is the best but you need more funds (60M will do). Again, PR is becoming harder.

If not because of our corrupt politicians, why would a Nigerian be eager to leave a rich country like Nigeria?
Shame on our leaders.
May God punish every bad leader in this country.

Ejyksneh:
Please bro, how can i be on the immigrant visa category?

Either your father, mother, brother, sister, son, daughter spouse must be a green card holder or a US citizen and petition (file) for you to come to the US.. This is family based immigrant Visa. I don't know much about the other types which are not family based.

It sounds like you're at a critical crossroads in your life, and your thoughtful approach shows you're serious about making the right decisions. Let’s break down your concerns systematically to help you make the best choice.

1. Choosing the Right Country
Your target countries (Australia, Canada, and Schengen Europe) are all good options, but each has pros and cons:

Canada
- Pros:
- Easier Permanent Residency (PR) pathways (Express Entry, Provincial Nominee Programs).
- Spouse can join you on an open work permit.
- Strong tech job market (useful if you transition into cybersecurity).
- Cons:
- High cost of living (especially housing in major cities).
- Competitive job market (entry-level roles may be tough).

Australia
- Pros:
- High demand for skilled migrants (especially in cybersecurity/IT).
- Better weather and lifestyle than Canada.
- Temporary Skill Shortage (TSS) visa can lead to PR.
- Cons:
- PR process can be longer/more complex than Canada.
- Remote location = expensive flights for family visits.

Schengen Europe (Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, etc.)
- Pros:
- Free movement across Schengen zone.
- Some countries (e.g., Germany) offer free/low-cost education (if you upskill).
- Strong work-life balance.
- Cons:
- Language barriers (except in places like Ireland, Netherlands).
- Longer citizenship timelines (e.g., Germany: 6-8 years).

Recommendation:
- If PR is top priority → Canada (fastest route via Express Entry).
- If job opportunities + lifestyle matter → Australia.
- If you're open to learning a new language → Germany/Netherlands (tech-friendly).

2. Choosing the Right Skill
Since crypto trading may not be stable abroad, transitioning into a high-demand skill is wise.

Option 1: Cybersecurity (Your Current Interest)
- Pros:
- High demand in Canada/Australia/Europe.
- Pays well (avg. $70K–$120K+ in these countries).
- Cons:
- Requires certifications (CompTIA Security+, CEH, CISSP).
- You need consistency (but bootcamps can fast-track learning).

Option 2: Tech-Adjacent Roles (Easier Transition)
- Cloud Computing (AWS/Azure): High demand, certifications take 3–6 months.
- Data Analysis: Learn SQL, Python, Tableau (easier entry than cybersecurity).
- Tech Sales/Business Development: [/b]Leverage your crypto experience in fintech.

[b]Option 3: Trade Jobs (If You Want Faster Immigration)
- Canada/Australia need skilled tradespeople (electricians, plumbers, welders).
- Faster PR in some provinces (Canada’s PNP programs favor trades).

Recommendation:
- Stick with cybersecurity if you can commit to 6–12 months of focused learning.
- If you need a quicker route → Cloud certifications or a trade skill.

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3. Relationship Decision (Marriage vs. Moving First)
This is tricky but depends on:
- If you marry first:
- Pros: You can immigrate together (Canada/Australia allow spousal visas).
- Cons: More financial pressure upfront (two people settling abroad is costly).
- If you move first:
- Pros: You establish stability first, then sponsor your spouse later.
- Cons: Long-distance strain, and some countries make spousal visas slow.

Friends’ Advice (Consider but Don’t Overweight):
- Their concern is valid (settling alone is easier), but if your partner is supportive, migrating together can work.
- Key Question: Is your partner willing/able to work and contribute abroad?

Recommendation:
- If your relationship is strong and she can work → marry first and move together (Canada allows spouse work permits).
- If you need to test stability → move first, then sponsor her after 1–2 years.

Final Action Plan (Before Year-End)
1. Pick a Country (Within 1 Month):
- Research Express Entry (Canada) or Skill Shortage Lists (Australia/Germany).
- If Canada, calculate your CRS score (aim for 470+ for Express Entry).

2. Commit to a Skill (Within 2 Months):
- Enroll in a cybersecurity/cloud certification course (e.g., Google Cybersecurity Cert on Coursera).
- If trades interest you, research Canada’s PNP trades pathways.

3. Relationship Decision (Within 3 Months):
- Have an honest talk with your partner about timelines and expectations.
- If marrying, start paperwork early (marriage certs take time).

4. Save Aggressively & Exit Crypto (If Needed):
- Liquidate crypto holdings into stable assets before moving (banks scrutinize crypto funds).
- Ensure you have at least $10K–$15K for initial settlement.

Key Reminder:
- Speed matters, but don’t rush into a bad decision.
- Canada is the safest bet for PR + family migration.
- If cybersecurity feels overwhelming, switch to cloud/data roles.
- A supportive partner is an asset, not a burden—if she’s the right one.

You’ve got this! Make a plan, execute ruthlessly, and by 2026, you could be settled in your new country. 🚀

*Source: AI International Immigration Advisor Counselling Service.

APOPTOSIS:
U are welcome.
Remember to behave yourself.
Choose your first friends wisely.
They gonna decide your future
Remember to revisit your Facebook and make it modest b4 interview

Gone past the interview phase.

leocollins:
Boss , please don't be offended,am a BSC holder and also a skilled excavator operator,am planning of moving to Australia through work visa, your advice would be appreciated
Thanks

If you have concluded on Australia, make research about job opportunities in Australia, the kind of jobs readily available. Get the skills. You don't need to be perfect but a good idea is good enough. The more in demand skill the better.
Join Facebook groups of people living in Australia, and people who traveled to Australia. Ask questions and make friends,, it will be very helpful.

These are exactly what I did before I moved to Spain. I'm a videographer, editor, photographer, graphics designer and content creator. I also learnt barbing and driving for japa. After my research I noticed that studios in Spain need English speakers to proof read contents. So the urge got stronger.

When I got to Valencia, I joined a church. Bro Church is the best place to start from. They gave me shelter and paid stipends for the jobs I did for them. The pastor introduced me to a man who introduced me to a studio. Even though I knew the job, I calm down did proof reading and work as an apprentice, got paid less than 1k euro/ month. But with time I knew people who mattered and my story has been a smooth sail.

So I will advise you join Facebook groups and relate with people in Australia, ask questions, the answers there will be more helpful.

iCauseTrouble:
I don't have anything to say

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Satanist how farr àfter you jamb me and I gave you the beating and of your life, that was your last notable trolling.

This voice is familiar but notorious

Gerrard59:
South Africa offers one an opportunity for a good life in Africa. Aside from Nigeria, it's the best country with lots of economic opportunities in sub-Saharan Africa. Also, for educational reasons, it has really good schools.

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I see Austria, Switzerland and Finland being recommended. These our comedians sef 🤣🤣

Austria is not a bad choice provided the person is ready to learn German and endure the hurdles of authentication and legalization.

planetx:
90% of Nigerians living abroad don't even have N20 million saved up or equivalent, and you want to go join them. You are funny and the comments are full of delusional people giving silly advice.

When you live in Britain 🇬🇧
YoU DON'T even need to have 20m saved up

The white folks here with far less as saving are living far better than the ones with "millions" in Nigeria

Try German 'ChancenKarte' Program.

If you are planning of travelling it really depends on what you want in life. Are you the type that want more to life? Like owing a business being your own Boss? Are you the type that want to sell his time and peace o mind for a 9 to 5 job? If you belong to the first dont travel, with that money start a business and build.

I will tell you for fact, Africa Nigeria is a gold mine you might not understand and you will never understand until you travel, the only reason why most Nigeria are still in dispora is the exchange rate, remove it everyone wil return.

Every Nigeria i have meet here want to come back home, people are not living the best of life abroad forget the social media hype.
abroad is like a secret cult not until u enter you will not understand or believe. Most Nigeria want to come but have nothing to fall back on, some the shame of not meeting the community desire result of being in abroad for years, majority don't have savings, many are depressed worked out and tired but have no choice than to work or go homeless, you can't afford not to work in a week, or travel for months for holidays.

Opportunity abound in Nigeria, most of us here are rasing capital to come do something back home and live the best of life Nigeria have to offer.

PersonalDiary:
Hy Fellow Nigerians,


I think I have accomplished all my missions in Nigeria and it's time for a new chapter. But I still have some bottlenecks to settle before making the best decision.

I'm late twenties.A Bsc holder. Here are my issues at the moment.

1. The right country to choose.
2. The right skill
3. In a serious relationship

My target countries are Australia & Canada but open to any European country( Schengen country) that would be good to start life as a family person and have an easier route to Permanent Residence or citizenship.

I'm a crypto trader and I don't think it's something that's viable overseas. Have been trying to learn Cyber security but I'm.not consistent with it. But would be open to learn any other skill that would ensure I settle properly and take care of myself and family.

On the last note, I'm in a serious relationship for the past 6 months and contemplating on getting married first before moving or moving first before adding any more load to my burden.

My friends advised me to end everything and save my head first because it won't be easy moving in as a spouse in a new country.

To be honest, I need to make a fast decision before the end of this year as everything seems to no longer move on my side at the moment since late last year, and I don't want to lose my savings before making the right decisions.

Looking forward to your valuable contributions why I read and make the most important decisions of my life at the moment.

OBTOREPA:
If he carry 20m enter China, e don blow.
He will be doing importation business while still studying bro

Lies

Importation of what and who go dey sell am?

20m is not up to 100,000rmb now

You will use almost 3m to come here based on flight ticket, residents permit is 22,000rmb, house rent etc... problem is no job for citizens not to talk of foreigners, bigger problem is who will you give goods to and you get your money back,I mean cost price back not even with profit...

You know how much people in Nigeria are owing me, I have stopped giving anyone goods

Let him start a business, get his wife into it, then when business is striving, he can come to china and be sending goods directly to his shop, anything outside this, chances of regret is high

People in Nigeria are not to be trusted

[quote author=planetx post=135988373]90% of Nigerians living abroad don't even have N20 million saved up or equivalent, and you want to go join them. You are funny and the comments are full of delusional people giving silly advice.[/quote


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just want to laugh ni

sonofsteven:
Lies

Importation of what and who go dey sell am?

20m is not up to 100,000rmb now

You will use almost 3m to come here based on flight ticket, residents permit is 22,000rmb, house rent etc... problem is no job for citizens not to talk of foreigners, bigger problem is who will you give goods to and you get your money back,I mean cost price back not even with profit...

You know how much people in Nigeria are owing me, I have stopped giving anyone goods

Let him start a business, get his wife into it, then when business is striving, he can come to china and be sending goods directly to his shop, anything outside this, chances of regret is high

People in Nigeria are not to be trusted

I sort agree that 20m is quite small to commence importation directly from China. But nwanne, why are your Nigerian customers owing you? Is it because of poor sales or criminality, aka lying upon arrival of goods? Fluctuating currency values?

Lastly, I'm curious, what kind of goods do you deal on?

nedekid:
Yeah, 2014 before the apc miscreants came in 20m was $133,000.
When Tinubu came in after buhari 2 years ago, 20m was $43,000.
Today just after 2 years of this desaster 2m is just a little over $12,000!
From $133,000 to $12,000 in 10 years of apc, buhari and especially Tinubu and Nigerians are not outraged. Where in the world will this happen and the same people are seeking re- election and still having folks cheering them? How can anyone even support this based on eg ethnic cards?

APC ruined Nigeria. It's why the so-called coalition does not move me. Ninety percent of its members campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015, inclusive of Tinubu. So far, Tinubu's policies, aside his crude bigotry and poor handling of the Fulani herdsmen issue, are good. So I rather have him continue to 2031.

None of the clowns in the so-called ADC would be any better. In fact, they would be WORSE!

IkeIgboNiile:
Gerrard59
So what kind of goods would you start with if you had a similar amount of money? And in which region in Nigeria would you sell them?


There's need for more research on this but from the top of my head, Men's clothing,phone accessories and motor spare parts are goods that are lucrative and needed in all parts of Nigeria.

Thanks for your reply. The phone accessories aspect is good. My issue is to know the cost it would be require to fill 20ft container directly from China. 20m won't go anywhere for motor spare parts. Or am I wrong?

The person I communicate with (has a thriving phone accessories business in Nigeria) doesn't come across as a serious person to me. I wonder how people intend to make money when they are literally unserious in what they do. How the business even thrives boggles me

Gerrard59:
I sort agree that 20m is quite small to commence importation directly from China. But nwanne, why are your Nigerian customers owing you? Is it because of poor sales or criminality, aka lying upon arrival of goods? Fluctuating currency values?

Lastly, I'm curious, what kind of goods do you deal on?

Truth is I no get shop, if I know say you dey into shoes,we talk and all, I go buy shoes wey you go see and confirm say you can sell, I send to you, once you receive it, we calculate it in naira o,not rmb o for you to pay fast, 1month one story,two months 20k transfer, 5 months, you don pay like 200k, how far,gimme that goods make I give someone else,you go say you don give people for credit say them never pay due to bad market...

Na so I go raise money again, talk to another person, same thing...

I deal on mostly clothing and cables(wire) but general merchandise because I'm closer to manufacturers and distributors here... depending on what the person needs

Naija get criminal minds, tho not everyone but before you see a good person, e go hard

My inlaw do me shege, my friends etc... so I decided to be saving my money, sometimes I buy and ship,once it gets to nigerian warehouse, I book flight and go clear am and sell am myself

Trust no one not even your blood,my gee for here na him family cripple am

And job no dey china

Gerrard59:
I sort agree that 20m is quite small to commence importation directly from China. But nwanne, why are your Nigerian customers owing you? Is it because of poor sales or criminality, aka lying upon arrival of goods? Fluctuating currency values?

Lastly, I'm curious, what kind of goods do you deal on?

20m is not small brother, but who manages it will determine

You can buy clothing worth 2m or even 500k and ship, if your cost price no return or profit no join am, the 20m go dey deplet and e go finish because nothing is coming only going

sonofsteven:
Truth is I no get shop, if I know say you dey into shoes,we talk and all, I go buy shoes wey you go see and confirm say you can sell, I send to you, once you receive it, we calculate it in naira o,not rmb o for you to pay fast, 1month one story,two months 20k transfer, 5 months, you don pay like 200k, how far,gimme that goods make I give someone else,you go say you don give people for credit say them never pay due to bad market...

Na so I go raise money again, talk to another person, same thing...

I deal on mostly clothing and cables(wire) but general merchandise because I'm closer to manufacturers and distributors here... depending on what the person needs

Naija get criminal minds, tho not everyone but before you see a good person, e go hard

My inlaw do me shege, my friends etc... so I decided to be saving my money, sometimes I buy and ship,once it gets to nigerian warehouse, I book flight and go clear am and sell am myself
Trust no one not even your blood,my gee for here na him family cripple am

And job no dey china

Thank you for your detailed reply.

I've always said that the major problem with doing business in Nigeria isn't lack of opportunities, capital, ideas but the innate dishonest nature of our people. Most Nigerians are innately dishonest.

P.S. As for family, well, it depends on the kind of relationship they've amongst themselves.

Gerrard59:
APC ruined Nigeria. It's why the so-called coalition does not move me. Ninety percent of its members campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015, inclusive of Tinubu. So far, Tinubu's policies, aside his crude bigotry and poor handling of the Fulani herdsmen issue, are good. So I rather have him continue to 2031.

None of the clowns in the so-called ADC would be any better. In fact, they would be WORSE!

Bros, his own is a greed on another level. Someone that can demand for huge percentage of a states revenue? It was alleged years ago that a govermorshop candidate somewhere approached him for support, oga demanded 40% of the income, the guy was so shocked he declined the offered support. See, if crude prices rises to $200 per barrel, it will not have effect on the value of the naira neither on citizens why? He will look for some elephant project to give to his cronies to syphon the gains, maybe called underground coastal road this time and award it to his own company for $100b.
Bros why do you think if you have or seem to have a dint of criminality in your history, it is almost impossible to get a proper job abroad, even in naija, you cannot get a banking job if you have committed before or even rumors you have committed.
We then korokoro handed the whole cbn of a country to people with shady, dodgy past and then expect the vaults not to be emptied. No be juju be dat?
As you rightly said, these people that make up the adc have been there before, infact all of them have been there since 1998, even as pdp, but the damage was not this bad, in 16 years of pdp, did the naira lose value to this extent of 1000s of percent? The problem is the greed of the individuals in charge today stating from the top.
They say they met a crushed economy, is it in a crushed economy you will give $39b road to a paddies company where your puppy is a director? That aside, in your personal business, is it when business is not moving, sales is down, no stock, owing salaries etc you then take a loan, sell some assets join, then take the money to build new office complex and buy brand new official vehicles?

Gerrard59
Thanks for your reply. The phone accessories aspect is good. My issue is to know the cost it would be require to fill 20ft container directly from China. 20m won't go anywhere for motor spare parts. Or am I wrong?

The person I communicate with (has a thriving phone accessories business in Nigeria) doesn't come across as a serious person to me. I wonder how people intend to make money when they are literally unserious in what they do. How the business even thrives boggles me


Well the phone accessories business thrives because literally everyone has a phone and once every month or so, you'll have to change/add something in your phone whether it's changing the screen guard or buying a new porch for it.

Secondly all you need for the business is learning what to import and what not and more importantly having a trusted relative/ friend here in Nigeria who'll help you clear,sell and send your money without any issue.

For me, i think you should first learn the business and start small first before talking about importing a 20ft container. You have to know how the business works first and how trusted your relative/ friend is first before investing heavily into it.

Poormanpikin:
I encourage you 100% to make the move - it's a heroic step trying to escape the challenges here. Nigeria's future is bleak and now's the right time to take that decision. Listen, man, prioritize yourself for now. Focus on finding a safe haven before thinking about settling down. Marriage is a significant commitment that requires stability, and it's crucial to secure your future first.

When choosing between Canada and Australia for migration, consider factors like PR processing time, job opportunities, cost of living, and healthcare. Canada offers faster PR processing (6-9 months) and easier qualification, while Australia's process is more complicated and requires higher points.

Canada's job market is strong, with high demand for skilled trades, IT, and healthcare, and more job openings. Australia offers higher average salaries, especially in trades and specific industries, but job availability depends on the sector.

Canada's cost of living is generally more affordable, with lower housing and grocery costs, while Australia's major cities are more expensive. Both countries have strong healthcare systems, but Canada's public healthcare is free for permanent residents.

If you're considering studying in Canada, you may be eligible for fully funded admission or partial scholarships. If you receive a partial scholarship, you can apply for MPower financing to cover the remaining costs.

I encourage you to explore education opportunities in Canada, as securing a scholarship or admission can be a great stepping stone to PR. Go through the education route, and may you find the best opportunities for your future.

Must you denigrate your country to make a point?

Kobicove:
Is it Nigeria that you're referring to as "That thing"?

Majority of them will end up in old people's home and their children will change genders and some marry same sex. People that don't think deeply

Please could you talk more on this?!

martineverest:
Go for masters in uk if u are single

GT07115:
If you are planning of travelling it really depends on what you want in life. Are you the type that want more to life? Like owing a business being your own Boss? Are you the type that want to sell his time and peace o mind for a 9 to 5 job? If you belong to the first dont travel, with that money start a business and build.

I will tell you for fact, Africa Nigeria is a gold mine you might not understand and you will never understand until you travel, the only reason why most Nigeria are still in dispora is the exchange rate, remove it everyone wil return.

Every Nigeria i have meet here want to come back home, people are not living the best of life abroad forget the social media hype.
abroad is like a secret cult not until u enter you will not understand or believe. Most Nigeria want to come but have nothing to fall back on, some the shame of not meeting the community desire result of being in abroad for years, majority don't have savings, many are depressed worked out and tired but have no choice than to work or go homeless, you can't afford not to work in a week, or travel for months for holidays.

Opportunity abound in Nigeria, most of us here are rasing capital to come do something back home and live the best of life Nigeria have to offer.

I cannot reconcile the realities of Nigeria with the bolded

Kobicove:
Is it Nigeria that you're referring to as "That thing"?

As much as I love Nigeria cos it was where I was born
Sometimes calling Nigeria "that thing" is an insult to "that thing"

The current state of the country is way worse than a zoo
Even animals don't suffer to the degree that majority of Nigerians do

So while it is okay to cheat thump about your country, don't be deluded about the realities, remove those rose tinted glasses

Gerrard59:
APC ruined Nigeria. It's why the so-called coalition does not move me. Ninety percent of its members campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015, inclusive of Tinubu. So far, Tinubu's policies, aside his crude bigotry and poor handling of the Fulani herdsmen issue, are good. So I rather have him continue to 2031.

None of the clowns in the so-called ADC would be any better. In fact, they would be WORSE!

Are you seriously saying this?

InvertedHammer:
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This life sef!

E get where e go reach, Nigeria go tire you.

E get where e go reach, abroad go tire you.

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True talk

Alex80s:
Don't let anyone discourage you. You have more than enough for this journey. If you wish to Japa through academic route, visit IDP depending on your state and thanks me latet. Them no dey collect shishi to secure admission for anyone. With tem you are 95% sure of move to UK,Canada, US, Australia,Germany or New Zealand.

Baba you mean internally displaced person?
Pls enlight me, I know two of their Camp.