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Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Breaker001: 3:58pm On Jul 05, 2025
This may be the Chinese foreign minister's personal opinion on the Russia/Ukraine war. It does not necessarily mean that his statement during a private chat with the EU top official is China's official stand on the matter.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by KaLuCh:
WriterrNg:
I could bring out more than 4 western reports of Russia achieving a budget surplus, revenue surplus and economic growth every single year since 2022.

Can you do the same for EU and the US?

This war is the best thing that have ever happened to Russia. Putin himself said it.

They've been idle for too long, they needed something to jumpstart them
Yo, forget the reports. They are not as simplistic as reports make it. I said, ask any person who has a firsthand experience about the effect of the war on the common.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Juju70(m): 4:01pm On Jul 05, 2025
when u dey beg pessin wey dey fight to stop e nor wan hear e get as the fight go turn against am em go loose everything na wetin go happen to putin be dat! As for that guy wey think china go take taiwan wake up! e nor go happen. na long thing be that!
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by WriterrNg: 4:03pm On Jul 05, 2025
KaLuCh:
Yo, forget the reports. They are not as simplistic as reports male it. I said, ask any person who has a firsthand experience about the effect of the war on the common.
Are Americans or Europeans having it any better? I mean the common man on the street? Ask your friends in America what inflation is doing to them.

The people who slapped 30,000 sanctions on Russia are now telling you that despite that, Russian economy grew, oil revenues bigger than ever, budget surpluses grew, military complex grew, food production and distribution bigger than ever.

Russia is now exporting more than it imports with only 30% of it's exports being oil and gas. When was the last time the US had a budget surplus?

Russia now outproduces the entire NATO military on everything.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 4:04pm On Jul 05, 2025
KaLuCh:
Calm down. Ask anyone in Russia, the sanctions are working. And Russia is very lucky Trump is not willing to bring down the hammer.

Russia is not the oligarch. The oligarchy may not be feeling the heat of sanctions very much, but ask the common man.

Yall sounding like a bunch of clowns when you make Russia and China invincible, while at the same time trying to make USA and Europe sound weak.

As for this war, Putin never expereddit to be this tough. The Russian economy is going through a dangerous time, and will take many years of careful, focused effort to bring it back to pre-Ukraine wars. Putin is winning the battle yes, but man is he losing the war.

China is just busy protecting her interests, not a good ally. Everybody get mouth now because Trump is stupidly courting Putin.
Despite all the illegal sanctions, Russian economy is performing better than most European countries. Russia is the most sanctioned country in the world.

Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by KaLuCh: 4:08pm On Jul 05, 2025
WriterrNg:
Are Americans or Europeans having it any better? I mean the common man on the street? Ask your friends in America what inflation is doing to them.

The people who slapped 30,000 sanctions on Russia are now telling you that despite that, Russian economy grew, oil revenues bigger than ever, budget surpluses grew, military complex grew, food production and distribution bigger than ever.

Russia is now exporting more than it imports with only 30% of it's exports being oil and gas. When was the last time the US had a budget surplus?

Russia now outproduces the entire NATO military on everything.
I live in Europe, I do know way better than you how the common man in Russia is faring. There is far more to the quality of living than the reports you are quoting up and down. Russia is in deep shit.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by WriterrNg: 4:10pm On Jul 05, 2025
KaLuCh:
I live in Europe, I do know way better than you how the common man in Russia is faring. There is far more to the quality of living than the reports you are quoting up and down. Russia is in deep shit.
Yeah I guess that explains why citizens of European nations bordering Russia now travel to Russia to buy groceries and other items, because it's more affordable. Google it.

Let's start with your energy bill, compare it with that of Russians living in the capital Moscow.

How about Gas? Food? Housing? Salary?
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by able20(m): 4:19pm On Jul 05, 2025
Wizardslayer:
Chinese are known to be coward and very unstable set of people.

They actually don't want Russia to loose the war against Ukraine but they allowed Iran to loose the war against Israel.
China is the same like the USA and Europe, they pretend to be Domocratic
Africans are fooled to believe that the Western nations have their interest
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by FreeStuffsNG: 4:21pm On Jul 05, 2025
smokinloud:
The irony is that China is denying involvement in the said war.
Moreover, Trump would prefer Ukraine to lose the war so the EU can learn the hard way, to protect their civilisation.
President Trump wants a significant deal from Ukraine before he backs them up. Zelensky and Ukrainians don't want it. EU can actually do without Ukraine once Russia gives a guarantee which Putin is not willing to give.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Bigchris01(m): 4:33pm On Jul 05, 2025
fuckingAyaya:
The have lost the war already. That's why they resorted to bombing residential buildings and hospitals, they have rolled out their old Soviet union armored tankers because they have lost almost all their tankers nd the war is having a bad effect on their economy.
Lost which war? Just Dey play, Russia hasn’t been using their newly acquired military equipment on Ukrain they are still using their old stockpiles weapon from soviet era if they unleash their newly Made weapons on Ukraine it will grind to dust

Meanwhile You accuse Russia of bombing hospitals and pay def ears to it when Israel did same in Gaza and Iran, some of you supporting this western propaganda have lost their ability to think rationally
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by engrchykae(m): 4:46pm On Jul 05, 2025
proff010:
Everyone know that Russia can never defeat ukraine
Russia has been fighting NATO since 1947.
Six more characters needed
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by oglalasioux(m): 4:59pm On Jul 05, 2025
Simply because Russia losing to Ukraine will give Taiwan morale. Nothing more.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Bluntemperor: 5:11pm On Jul 05, 2025
Breaker001:
This may be the Chinese foreign minister's personal opinion on the Russia/Ukraine war. It does not necessarily mean that his statement during a private chat with the EU top official is China's official stand on the matter.
Just imagine this man talking,as if he is a Chinese Citizens and what type of people are we Nigerians?
Who told you that Chinese Officials have Personal Opinion,in a Totalitarian States like China?
You shouldn't have dable into this International Politics,when you don't understand it🤭.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by chrisxxx(m): 5:26pm On Jul 05, 2025
fuckingAyaya:
The have lost the war already. That's why they resorted to bombing residential buildings and hospitals, they have rolled out their old Soviet union armored tankers because they have lost almost all their tankers nd the war is having a bad effect on their economy.
Israel won the war for Ukraine. People didn't understand what happened. Attacking Iran was a tactical one by NATO. The capability of Iran produce those their dangerous drones have been destroyed extensively.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Breaker001: 5:28pm On Jul 05, 2025
Bluntemperor:
Just imagine this man talking,as if he is a Chinese Citizens and what type of people are we Nigerians?
Who told you that Chinese Officials have Personal Opinion,in a Totalitarian States like China?
You shouldn't have dable into this International Politics,when you don't understand it🤭.
Eeeh yaaaah.... International politician.!
Even in North Korea, people have their personal opinion over any matter, even though they can not voice it openly until they are able to run away from the country. You that knows international politics, go back and read that post and you will able to understand where I drew my opinion from. International politician, my fuut 😡
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by dalitigator(m): 5:40pm On Jul 05, 2025
Almiron:
China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine

Source: CNN
I love China. Keep your number 1 enemy/competitor busy and distracted, while conquering the world via trade and commerce.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by MrSly(m): 6:37pm On Jul 05, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Very good. Chinese people are very intelligent and always thinking long term. Russia is doing China a favor by getting NATO & US bogged down in a losing war in Ukraine.
By the time the conflict might be over in Europe, China might have peacefully unified or annexed Taiwan.

China is also returning the favor to Russia by trading with Russia, Asia alone has the largest market so literally Moscow fully replaced the EU/European/American market. That's why Western illegal economic sanctions on Russia is not working.
Meanwhile, the EU have turned to satellite states, allowing unelected officials to be making foreign policy decisions for them.
You say you don't want to buy Russian gas, you blew Nord stream. Yet you're buying the same Russian gas via middlemen countries like India, China and Turkey .....
But you seem to carefullu Dodge the real issue. China says that they love the war in ukraine because it distracts US from facing them, china , squarely. Digest that submission from a Chinese diplomat and save yourself the long epistle. It is what it is.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by PHIPEX(m): 7:01pm On Jul 05, 2025
ElonEmpire:
Poor student of history

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Prof of history, tell us the answer to the question
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by sweetjohn(m): 7:14pm On Jul 05, 2025
ElonEmpire:
How did Iran lose against Israel?
Last time I remembered it was Isreal crying all over the media begging for cease fire
Na for your papa house they come beg. You guyz just like lies. Is that what your religion is all about lies upon lies. Iran went to EU and they agreed for ceasefire, Israel accepted it since Israel has achieved their aim which is destruction of their nuclear facilities thru the help of US cos US is the only country that can do such with their B2 shealt and secondly, the degradation of Iran military capabilities and capacities
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Ashirioluwa: 7:16pm On Jul 05, 2025
This war really exposed Russia. They are not the superpower that we thought they were.

I am aware that the US provides significant backing to the Ukrainian government, but China and North Korea also back Russia.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Serenitys: 7:27pm On Jul 05, 2025
Ashirioluwa:
This war really exposed Russia. They are not the superpower that we thought they were.

I am aware that the US provides significant backing to the Ukrainian government, but China and North Korea also back Russia.
Okay president trump, why not engage Russia in a direct war than using proxies..
Since you know better than nato that is hidding behind Ukraine..
Fire the first shot lets see..
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Homiesjinxbank: 7:56pm On Jul 05, 2025
Everybody knows both the EU and Ukraine can not defeat Russia
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Homiesjinxbank: 7:58pm On Jul 05, 2025
Ashirioluwa:
This war really exposed Russia. They are not the superpower that we thought they were.

I am aware that the US provides significant backing to the Ukrainian government, but China and North Korea also back Russia.
I’m very sure the EU and Ukraine can not defeat Russia, Ukraine is losing more land almost everyday
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Ashirioluwa: 8:35pm On Jul 05, 2025
Both nations and their allies have suffered greatly as a result of this senseless war, which has also had a significant impact on lives outside of their boundaries.

They need to end this senseless war now and let peace reign.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Farmsolution: 8:39pm On Jul 05, 2025
Almiron:
China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine

Source: CNN
They are all afraid of the US. They know after Russia, the US will ounce on China with the gaffer in charge
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Ashirioluwa: 8:46pm On Jul 05, 2025
A great amount of property has been destroyed, many families have been displaced, and many lives have been lost just for power shows between these inhuman leaders.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Ashirioluwa: 8:52pm On Jul 05, 2025
The real winners of this pointless war are the manufacturers and the suppliers of those deadly ammunitions.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Mattswaggz: 9:03pm On Jul 05, 2025
KaLuCh:
Calm down. Ask anyone in Russia, the sanctions are working. And Russia is very lucky Trump is not willing to bring down the hammer.

Russia is not the oligarch. The oligarchy may not be feeling the heat of sanctions very much, but ask the common man.

Yall sounding like a bunch of clowns when you make Russia and China invincible, while at the same time trying to make USA and Europe sound weak.

As for this war, Putin never expereddit to be this tough. The Russian economy is going through a dangerous time, and will take many years of careful, focused effort to bring it back to pre-Ukraine wars. Putin is winning the battle yes, but man is he losing the war.

China is just busy protecting her interests, not a good ally. Everybody get mouth now because Trump is stupidly courting Putin.
You can as well highlights which aspects of their lives the sanctions are affecting instead of just dishing out propaganda. undecided .
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by Mattswaggz: 9:05pm On Jul 05, 2025
Reference:
China has played it's hand and not in a very intelligent way. It should realise that Europe is a lot more concerned about the independence and security of Ukraine than the United States and it's pro Russia posture will only drive a wedge of trust between it and mainstream Europe.

And most of all it will send a signal to the US that as a country China is a bit wary of a conflict with the States. It should have remained mute on this Eastern European conflict despite it's tacid, underground support of the Kremlin.

The world is now fully bipolar, firmly split between East and West with Ukraine perhaps the new buffer, the defacto No Man's Land, chuck ablock with mines and tank traps.
Lol, most of all these you're saying are already known by both parties so what's the difference..... someone's body language will most likely expose their position/intent much more than their words will.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by ViceGovernor: 9:13pm On Jul 05, 2025
proff010:
Everyone know that Russia can never defeat ukraine
How?
Russia is a nuclear superpower, make no mistakes sir they can defeat any country in battle pound for pound including the US and China.


EU~ Russia produces more weapons in 3 months than the entire Europe does in 13 months.

EU ~ Russia has been fighting with half their military strength in Ukraine, meaning they are fighting with one hand behind. If they wanted to they would have leveled Ukraine.

The fact is that no country can stand a nuclear superpower unless another superpower and they will never fight directly they can only go through proxy because they are not fools.
Re: China Tells EU It Can’t Accept Russia Losing Its War Against Ukraine by ViceGovernor: 9:16pm On Jul 05, 2025
Ashirioluwa:
The real winners of this pointless war are the manufacturers and the suppliers of those deadly ammunitions.
The largest arms manufacturer in the world is USA followed by Russia, methinks they are using Ukraine to play ping pong while smiling to the bank.
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