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Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

It's clear that some of you don't read your Bible. The word of God says those that were giving laws will be judged by the law, those that came before the law shall be judged without the law. For us we shall be judged based on righteousness. We will not be judged by the law it's the Jews that will be judged by the law which expired when Jesus died and resurrected. What I just explain is in the scripture.
Whether you heard or you did not heard you will be judged based on the judgement of that dispensation.
God knows all things so he also knows that they may not even believe if they heard him because history has proven severally how the gospel were rejected. Jesus himself was rejected and killed plus all the miracles. The children of Israel with all the miracles in Egypt and afterwards rejected God. The Bible says and God was angry and they all died in the wilderness.

I believe in Reincarnation so I know exactly what happened to Them

We are actually our ancestors

They get another opportunity to hear it again, from Jesus, after his death.(That's where the verses referring to Jesus going down to sheol to preach the gospel refer to...and then keep in mind that when one dies, there is no concept of time as a forward process as we know it.)

It is only those who directly rejected God that have lost hope.

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

Romans 2 :12-24
“For all who have sinned without the law will perish without the law, and those who sinned under the law will be judged by the law”.

Yes but lesser punishment compare to those who have heard of Christ. Judgements because they had the their consciences to convict them wrong doings(sin), but lesser punishment because they did not hear of Christ.

In Hell there is hierarchy of torments but all inmates are burned with fire.

tctrills:
Ok your opinion.
But if this is the God you worship, he is evil and unjust.
He creates men, gives them no chance to hear the truth and learn about him then destroys them with the excuse that there is no proof that if they have heard about Jesus Christ that they would have been saved.
Do you really think you worship a just God?
Again we learn from
Acts 17:29 teaches that all men are offsprings of God.
You claim that your God will give his children no chance to learn about him and destroy them for that?
What would you call a father who would not teach his children the truth? A bad father
What then would you call a father who punish his kids for no fault of theirs? An evil father.
That's not the God I identify with. Is that your God?

You are a typical example of what we know. With all the things you have seen an heard have that changed you. Yours is worst because you have internet to verify the miracle working power of God with lots of proofs of God's power, glory and mercy. Yet you don't believe.
So there is no proof that they would have believed and history has shown that.

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

Which word of God, the one written and handed over to you by white people ?

Your ancestors are saints compared to all the characters in the white man story book and also judging from the atrocities done by the whites and what they wrote in their story book...
Their God is a jealous God and very quick to kill and command to kill...

chimex38:
That's an outliner. There are pretenders, etc, I get your point.
But there are those whose daily work and business activities are well known down to their household and they touch lives.
So are you saying its difficult for them who try to live by their conscience to be upright enough?
Especially for folks in the rural, hard unreachable areas.

The truth u are failing to see is that these thing u called outliers are more ....evil pple doing good for show off, wicked doing good for guilty politics sake, for future gain, to oppress others, their neighbours,etc

Which is why some religion believe just doing good doesnt earn u the righteous or holy title

tctrills:
Romans 2:14-15
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, by nature do the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves.
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

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tctrills ....

The above directly answers your question. Man by nature ... the things of the law are in his DNA ... he does not have to be preached to ... nor has to read the Bible to know good from evil ... it is in his conscience and will be judged according to his conscience.

Let me ask .... do you ever feel like you have two minds? ... as in you want to do something... kill the guy that took your gf ... but there's something ... a second mind warning you ...(the first mind) not to do it? You don't have to read the Bible ... be a Christian ... preached to ... nor hear about Jesus to have that second warning mind. It shows by nature you already have the things contained in the law .... thou shall not kill. If you go ahead and kill the guy .... then you will be judged not by the thou shall not kill law .... which you never heard about .... but will be judged by your conscience...going against your second mind .... same as one who knows the thou shall not kill law but cho to go against it.

Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

Reincarnation is real and it serves as second chance.

It’s sad that some people still believe in 2025 that, Polar bears walked from the North Pole to the Middle East to get into Noah’s ark.

tctrills:
You have a strong point. But then, what was the purpose of sending them into the world only to keep sending them again and again. Wouldn't it be more efficient to give them the opportunity of hearing the gospel in their first life so there is no need to keep repeating the process?
Again there is a possibility of even worse outcomes each time a person is reborn.

Reasons why y'all should believe religious are men creation for dummies.

The gospel will be preach to those who are willing to repent but never had the opportunity to do so here on earth.
We can use the case of Lazarus and the rich man as an example.
But who is not willing to repent will not have such opportunity because that same spirit that made you not to repent here on earth will till poses u after death.

The gods are wise ..

Gabrielshow24:
strongly believed? By whom? 👀 You?
Reincarnation is flawed as it doesn't pass some certain criteria! As regards those before the Lord's work, God will judge the sum total of their works but there's no assurance they will make it without the Lord showing Mercy ! Hence their salvation is on a knife-edge as it is only the Lord's prerogative that can save them 😁.

John 15 vs 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

15 vs 24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

It is clear whatever life they lived before Christ is or can't be used against them, that's why Jesus when he died didn't ascend to heaven immediately but had to descent into hell to preach to souls in prison for them to be saved through his mercy - these were the first people who did not believe Noah and his arch before God destroy them

What do you mean by they didn't hear the word of God? Who told you the Bible is the word of God ?

advanceDNA:
The truth u are failing to see is that these thing u called outliers are more ....evil pple doing good for show off, wicked doing good for guilty politics sake, for future gain, to oppress others, their neighbours,etc

Which is why some religion believe just doing good doesnt earn u the righteous or holy title

We have countries like North Korea and China where religion is almost 0%.
Wonder what becomes of the nobles amongst them from generation to generation.
They only live by the law of Korea and China and probably fill the moral gaps in the law with their conscience.

If God doesn't show favoritism, I suppose their just conscience should be possible to actualise just enough righteousness in God's sight. Afterall, it is written in their hearts.

Gabrielshow24:
strongly believed? By whom? 👀 You?
Reincarnation is flawed as it doesn't pass some certain criteria! As regards those before the Lord's work, God will judge the sum total of their works but there's no assurance they will make it without the Lord showing Mercy ! Hence their salvation is on a knife-edge as it is only the Lord's prerogative that can save them 😁.

You guys keep making God look wicked.

Pearl1910:
Imagine a world without TV and Telephone.
It is impossible to reach the whole world.
Therefore, to give everyone a chance hence the reincarnation until everyone comes to the knowledge of the truth. According to the scriptures He will not return until everyone has heard the gospel.

be decieving yourself

They are far better than you that heard the word written in the bible

They are fine wherever they are ....notin like hell nor heaven ..

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

They will be judged according to their works and the way they lived at the end of the world.
Romans 2:11-15.
Thanks.

Samtob90:
No, they would be judged by their deed while on earth.
This is found in Romans

God would not judge anyone with any religion but with this comment.

I used the word future outcome of our ancestors who doesn't have the opportunity to true God's word enlightenment.
In Bible book of Act 2:14 the apostle Paul declares having faith on the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, this includes millions ( babies, our ancestors) and those who do not have the opportunity of exercising faith in Christ ransom sacrifice , a second opportunity lies ahead for these ones.
Many of these ancestors mostly lived and conducted their affairs through God's given conscience,
The Bible book of Romans 2:14-15 states
For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15  They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused.
Though their conscience are not trained, some exhibited to some extent good moral thoughts, ways etc.
Our ancestors can fare better than millions of peoples who upon the abundance of the good news been preached all over the earth still are bent living debauchery life.
The God whose all his ways are justice is the rightful judge to determine the future outcome of millions of dead ones not having the opportunity of having the light of salvation of God through Jesus Christ.

chimex38:
please y
If God doesn't show favoritism, I suppose thei r just conscience shuld be possible to actualise just enough righteousness in God's sight. Afterall, it is written in their hearts.

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Al least thats what roman chap 2 said .....that people obey God regardless of never having anyone preach to them....so weda u heard the word or not....it's the doer of the word that is called righteous....

Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

Jesus Christ came into the world almost about 1800 years before Christianity was introduced to the western part of Africa.

So what happened to our ancestors after Jesus came into the world when Christianity was yet to be introduced to them?

They all will be given a chance and opportunity to hear the good news

Me thinks judgment would be on the basis of morality and kindness.

If one has a relatively clean slate, they should be free from eternal damnation

God will judge them according to their consciences

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

The same thing that happened to the Europeans. Do they ask themselves this question? They had Celtics, Viking and other Gods. And they are very happy people. You go to the movies and watch their Gods do battle with imaginary villains.

advanceDNA:
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Al least thats what roman chap 2 said .....that people obey God regardless of never having anyone preach to them....so weda u heard the word or not....it's the doer of the word that is called righteous....

But God still wants us
(the gentiles) to hear his word and believe even if you seem to be righteous.. It surely has its advantages.
Acts 10
Peter preaches and coverts an already righteous Cornelius(gentile)