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FreeIgboho:
"Reality" is whatever signals are transmitted to your brain, no matter their source. What has that to do with what is actually there??

Not being aware of that is what is dumb!

LoLz. The tone deafness of this post is why I think you're playing with less than a full deck. How are you saying you are unable to properly evaluate the reality you are experience right now but you believe a story book from 2000 years ago which have no evidence of? Don't you think you need to count your marbles?

DeepSight:
Where is your calabash?

Na wah o!

The post is not for you nah?

Maximus692:
Na wah o!

The post is not for you nah?

Bring out your calabash and your ritual garments and tools now, I conjure you.

FreeIgboho:
But you are extremely touchy about being called a cult. Why not be proud of it since it's from Jesus??

You were asked why easing up on shunning?
And where did Jesus tell his disciples to shun people

Jesus initiated SHUNNING among his disciples! Matthew 18:15-17

DeepSight:
Bring out your calabash and your ritual garments and tools now, I conjure you.

Mr Reincarnation the below post is not for you o!

Maximus692:
If you agree that the TEACHER who laid the foundation is the head of CULTISM i will be proud of Jesus any time any day! Matthew 10:24-25

So are you saying Jesus was wrong for teaching his disciples to SHUN?

FreeIgboho:
"Reality" is whatever signals are transmitted to your brain, no matter their source. What has that to do with what is actually there??

Not being aware of that is what is dumb!

I once told my boss years ago - like 20 years ago - that "perception is reality."
He swiftly corrected me, saying, "No, perception is cognitive reality."

Maximus692:
Mr Reincarnation the below post is not for you o!

Bring out your occultic tools now before we drag you to the market square.

DeepSight:
Bring out your occultic tools now before we drag you to the market square.

If anyone see your posts on this forum without you engaging a JW they may be having the thought that you are knowledgeable but just a few discussion with a JW see how you've messed up your entire being on this forum?

Now answer me:

Is it based on some tools you called JWs a cult or based on the fact that we shun rebellious ones?

Are you now saying any group of people who shun rebellious members must be in possession of some tools?


You people know nothing yet you want to portray yourself as knowledgeable humans!

Maximus692:
If anyone see your posts on this forum without you engaging a JW they may be having the thought that you are knowledgeable but just a few discussion with a JW see how you've messed up your entire being on this forum?

Now answer me:

Is it based on some tools you called JWs a cult or based on the fact that we shun rebellious ones?

Are you now saying any group of people who shun rebellious members must be in possession of some tools?


You people know nothing yet you want to portray yourself as knowledgeable humans!

Stop proving stubborn and vomit the exhibits. Your occultist accoutrements.

DeepSight:
No, he will record that many people said so.

Nope. The historian who records Ojukwu ran away before end of the war will record just that. He won't say anybody told him

FreeIgboho:
Nope. The historian who records Ojukwu ran away before end of the war will record just that. He won't say anybody told him

That may be because men are known to run but donkeys are not known to talk.

DeepSight:
Stop lying sir. There is a difference between reading and recitingfew.

How do you recite without first reading?
Why not ask yourself how come I know the Bible so well

FreeIgboho:
(Please DO NOT come close to insulting anyone's beliefs on this thread, be it directly or indirectly, overtly or covertly. Especially do NOT talk bad about Jehovah's Witnesses or Moslems. Mods please help us ban anyone who violates this)


Reasons why Jesus is DEFINITELY God the Son of God:

1) Thousands of years before he was born prophets prophesied that God was coming to visit us. Old Testament (OT) is full of references to his coming.
No other person in the history of mankind has this happened with.

2) Before he came a mighty prophet was sent to prepare his way. John the Baptist (JohnTB) said that was all he came to do. And that he (a mighty prophet) was not fit to untie Jesus' shoe.

3) At his baptism a dove descended on him and a voice from heaven (identified as God the Father), proclaimed, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased," (Matthew 3:17)

4) When he finally came, he himself said he was the long-awaited God and did things God would do - he was after people's souls not money, he forgave sins, accepted worship, raised people from dead, and said he himself was the truth, the life, and the righteousness, and no one came to his Father except through him.

5) He said you'd know he's truly God the Son because his words would never pass away

6) He said he'd raise himself from the dead, and did just that and in such a way that the wrappings used to wrap the body were NOT disturbed

7) Thousands of years after his death he's being worshipped as God and his words have never passed away - exactly as he said!

8} He is worshipped interchangeably with the Father. No other person has been so worshipped
in human history.

9) The Father has been pleased with his worshippers and showered them with blessings. They also worship and call on the Father constantly and he accepts their prayers.

10) He is alive and active in people's lives TODAY!
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Before you dispute any of these remember:

1) You don't have the foggiest idea what God is like, nor can you imagine what he is like.

2) You don't have the foggiest idea what God's attributes are. So forget all the attributes you have in your head - they were assigned by man. You simply don't have the foggiest idea what God's attributes are or are not. So forget all attributes you assign to God!

3) If God is explained to you as straight forward and quite uncomplicated, you can be sure they are giving u man's version of God, NOT God as he is.

4) God exists in a dimension you can neither visualize, explain, nor comprehend.

5) So how do you know God? The ONLY way is the way it happened with Jesus. ANYONE that all those things happened with is God the Son of God. You can't know him any other way. You can't know him by logic, reasoning, or attributes. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY!!

Very correct sir,

The very person of God is revealed in Christ Jesus

DeepSight:
Stop proving stubborn and vomit the exhibits. Your occultist accoutrements.

I told you:

"that post is not for you"

It was for FreeIgboho.

I deal with each person according to the level of your IQ, the way you've responded to my posts in previous times has shown me your level of understanding that is why i don't engage you anymore.

Just look at the way FreeIgboho went silent when i asked him if he has seen a JW sexually abusing a child in his own neighborhood or if he can mention any church or religion where such a thing could'nt be found.

Instantly he realized that was a blunder because there is no religion where sexual scandals can't be found neither has people in this side of the world come out to say JWs in their area are child molesters.

But you will just continue talking back to prove you are not giving in to what you condemn.

Why can't you just answer the two simple questions?

Is it based on some tools you called JWs a cult or based on the fact that we shun rebellious ones?

Are you now saying any group of people who shun rebellious members must be in possession of some tools?

That's the same way you spoke without thinking the other time only to start rearranging your words after realizing it!

DeepSight:
That may be because men are known to run but donkeys are not known to talk.

It doesn't matter what it is. What matters is that enough people say it happened. Because people know the historian is not claiming they were there.

Maximus692:
I told you:

"that post is not for you"

It was for FreeIgboho.

I deal with each person according to the level of your IQ, the way you've responded to my posts in previous times has shown me your level of understanding that is why i don't engage you anymore.

Just look at the way FreeIgboho went silent when i asked him if he has seen a JW sexually abusing a child in his own neighborhood or if he can mention any church or religion where such a thing could'nt be found.

Instantly he realized that was a blunder because there is no religion where sexual scandals can't be found neither has people in this side of the world come out to say JWs in their area are child molesters.

But you will just continue talking back to prove you are not giving in to what you condemn.

Why can't you just answer the two simple questions?

Is it based on some tools you called JWs a cult or based on the fact that we shun rebellious ones?

Are you now saying any group of people who shun rebellious members must be in possession of some tools?

That's the same way you spoke without thinking the other time only to start rearranging your words after realizing it!

Talking about IQ when you lack a sense of humour.

Now where is your sutana?

FreeIgboho:
How do you recite without first reading?
Why not ask yourself how come I know the Bible so well

Recitation is merely making the sounds of words as a mantra.

DeepSight:
Talking about IQ when you lack a sense of humour. Now where is your sutana?

Sense of humour where you just speak without thinking shey?

Well let me show you what many have said about MaxInDHouse after engaging me in friendly discussions:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

That is what IQ is all about not just talking back because you feel like hurting others who don't agree with your philosophy!

Maximus692:
Jesus taught us that if there is any case that warrants settling among us we should encourage the two persons involved to resolve it between them but if it's not resolved we must take two other members to the one insisting on his own idea if he still disagree then the body of elders should intervene but if he still disagree with the body of elders in the congregation then we should SHUN such a person! Matthew 18:15-17

Jews used to SHUN people of other nations and tax collectors Jesus said that is the same way we should treat whoever disagree with what the entire congregation concludes as best decision!

I asked you show me where Jesus said if someone leaves the church they should be shunned, instead you showing me dispute settlement

LordReed:
LoLz. The tone deafness of this post is why I think you're playing with less than a full deck. How are you saying you are unable to properly evaluate the reality you are experience right now but you believe a story book from 2000 years ago which have no evidence of? Don't you think you need to count your marbles?

The book is not dependent on my reasoning. If I were told to use my reasoning to decide whether Jesus is Son of God, I can't.
Unlike you that use solely your faulty reasoning to decide such things

Maximus692:
Jesus initiated SHUNNING among his disciples! Matthew 18:15-17

This never said stop associating with people who leave the group. It is talking of wrong-doing

DeepSight:
I once told my boss years ago - like 20 years ago - that "perception is reality."
He swiftly corrected me, saying, "No, perception is cognitive reality."

Your boss was a smart man

DextrousD:
Very correct sir,

The very person of God is revealed in Christ Jesus

Thank you very much. JWs MaxInDHouse and Janosky argue against it like their life depends on it

FreeIgboho:
I asked you show me where Jesus said if someone leaves the church they should be shunned, instead you showing me dispute settlement

Wow!
And i expected much more from you o!

Well there is no single person who leaves the church without first having an issue with someone in the church so it's when such a person refuses to resolve the issue that he or she will stop attending the church completely.

Note how Jesus laid down the procedure then ending it with all members of the church shunning the person.

Well at least you've seen that members of the church shunning one of them is supported by Jesus you may now choose what to say or do about it.

FreeIgboho:
Thank you very much. JWs MaxInDHouse and Janosky argue against it like their life depends on it

You still don't understand what we are saying!

The personality of God is revealed in Christ Jesus as he put on the attributes of his father but that doesn't mean he is the same person!

Maximus692:
I told you:

"that post is not for you"

It was for FreeIgboho.

I deal with each person according to the level of your IQ, the way you've responded to my posts in previous times has shown me your level of understanding that is why i don't engage you anymore.

Just look at the way FreeIgboho went silent when i asked him if he has seen a JW sexually abusing a child in his own neighborhood or if he can mention any church or religion where such a thing could'nt be found.

Instantly he realized that was a blunder because there is no religion where sexual scandals can't be found neither has people in this side of the world come out to say JWs in their area are child molesters.

But you will just continue talking back to prove you are not giving in to what you condemn.

Why can't you just answer the two simple questions?

Is it based on some tools you called JWs a cult or based on the fact that we shun rebellious ones?

Are you now saying any group of people who shun rebellious members must be in possession of some tools?

That's the same way you spoke without thinking the other time only to start rearranging your words after realizing it!

No mind am DeepSight.
I didn't go silent at all. I just haven't gotten to it because I have so much to reply. Here's the reply:
I haven't seen any Catholic Rev Father on my street abusing a little boy either.
Now you say it's in every church - same way works are in every church, my buddy!

DeepSight:
Recitation is merely making the sounds of words as a mantra.

And how do you get to that without first reading the words

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
And i expected much more from you o!

Well there is no single person who leaves the church without first having an issue with someone in the church so it's when such a person refuses to resolve the issue that he or she will stop attending the church completely.

Note how Jesus laid down the procedure then ending it with all members of the church shunning the person.

Well at least you've seen that members of the church shunning one of them is supported by Jesus you may now choose what to say or do about it.

Not true at all. Many JW want to leave but scared of shunning

MaxInDHouse:
You still don't understand what we are saying!

The personality of God is revealed in Christ Jesus as he put on the attributes of his father but that doesn't mean he is the same person!

I see you're getting closer and closer. Maybe this will help you cross the line:
They are NOT the same person. One God in three persons. Remember?

FreeIgboho:
I see you're getting closer and closer. Maybe this will help you cross the line:
They are NOT the same person. One God in three persons. Remember?

"cross the line"? What line?😅 Max is an asymptote 😂😂👀, he will always be closer but never get there 🤣🤣🤣!

Well done, by the way!

Gabrielshow24:
"cross the line"? What line?😅 Max is an asymptote 😂😂👀, he will always be closer but never get there 🤣🤣🤣!

Well done, by the way!

It's only a matter of time. I feel it in my bones!😅
Thanks abunch