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elated177:
Ken4christ, is temple worship part of the Laws of Moses?

Yes. God no longer reveals Himself in physical buildings. He lives in us now. And we worship him in Spirit and in truth. Worship doesn't have to be in a dedicated building anymore. Jesus said he is any every place where two or three are gathered in his name.

elated177:
Ken4christ, read these:

Luke 6: 46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

John 15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

My questions:

1: What has Yahushua the Messiah, whom you refer to Jesus Christ, I suppose, instructed us to do?

2: What commands has he instructed his saints to keep?

The commandment Jesus gave to us is the new commandment of love:

.John 13: 34 - 35
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

sonmvayina:
Where do you get all these ideas from?
Don't let idolatry blind your eyes.....
God's law is for ever...see proverbs 4:1

It is an ever lasting covenant and relationship.

Rome borrowed from Judaism and from ever religion and cult in the empire to create Christianity. Emperor Constantine wanted a single religion for his empire......

The jews did not follow in the new religion. Because they already have a covenant with Hashem ....

Don't miss the two.

It's not a personal idea. It's revealed in God’s Word. Prophet Jeremiah foretold of the end of the Old Covenant and the beginning of a new one:

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more - Jeremiah 31:31-34.

ichuka:
Nice one, the law is Holy and Righteous and Good.
and it was fullfil by Jesus Christ not abolished

Yes, the Law is holy and was fulfilled by Jesus. But fulfillment doesn't mean it still functions the same way for believers under the New Covenant.

elated177:
Ken4christ, read these:

Luke 6: 46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

John 15: 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

My questions:

1: What has Yahushua the Messiah, whom you refer to Jesus Christ, I suppose, instructed us to do?

2: What commands has he instructed his saints to keep?

Are you suggesting that Jesus was telling people to keep all 613 laws of Moses?

You may not realize it, but even the rich young ruler kept all the commandments — yet it still couldn't save him. If you're willing to look deeper, you'll see that the commandments Jesus emphasized are these:

Mark 12:30-31

> “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.” This is the first commandment.
“And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

These two capture the heart of God’s law — not a return to the entire Mosaic code.

Let me use this to address the OP as well.

ichuka:
Nice one, the law is Holy and Righteous and Good.

The law is Holy, Righteous & Good means the END POINT of it. That is, what God wants to actually achieve with the Law is Holiness, Righteousness & Goodness.

and it was fullfil by Jesus Christ not abolished

This is for @Ken4christ too.

The term "ABOLISH" might not fully capture the understanding of the subject matter as it was used to means the Law (the Hebrew books) were given at some point and totally rendered useless at another point.

Just as you rightly put it (as stated by Jesus Christ Himself). Jesus Christ FULFILLED the Law and not ABOLISH.

This is what Apostle Paul also explained in Eph 2:15 even though the word "ABOLISH" was used.

Here is the summary of it:
What the Lord Jesus was basically telling the people is that the Hebrew Bible was specifically revealed in such a way so as to find its true meaning and completion in the Messiah’s work and interpretation of it.

The Hebrew Scriptures were deliberately designed by God to foreshadow Christ and his Church. The OT Scriptures contained shadows, types, analogies, and copies of spiritual realities that awaited the coming of Christ.

OT peoples, places, events and things were deliberately designed to be copies of a far greater spiritual reality, with Christ manifesting that reality through his fulfillment of it. The NT Scriptures are basically the record of how Christ unveiled the spiritual reality underlying the OT revelation.

The OT is like that of Architectural blueprint that an Engineer needs during construction. When the building actually comes to reality, the architectural blueprint doesn't get abandoned and destroyed but keep in place for further verification and documentations.

You can read more from this LINK which you can read further.

Ken4Christ:
It's not a personal idea. It's revealed in God’s Word. Prophet Jeremiah foretold of the end of the Old Covenant and the beginning of a new one:

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more - Jeremiah 31:31-34.

Thank you for proving my point.

Emusan:
Let me use this to address the OP as well.



The law is Holy, Righteous & Good means the END POINT of it. That is, what God wants to actually achieve with the Law is Holiness, Righteousness & Goodness.



This is for @Ken4christ too.

The term "ABOLISH" might not fully capture the understanding of the subject matter as it was used to means the Law (the Hebrew books) were given at some point and totally rendered useless at another point.

Just as you rightly put it (as stated by Jesus Christ Himself). Jesus Christ FULFILLED the Law and not ABOLISH.

This is what Apostle Paul also explained in Eph 2:15 even though the word "ABOLISH" was used.

Here is the summary of it:
What the Lord Jesus was basically telling the people is that the Hebrew Bible was specifically revealed in such a way so as to find its true meaning and completion in the Messiah’s work and interpretation of it.

The Hebrew Scriptures were deliberately designed by God to foreshadow Christ and his Church. The OT Scriptures contained shadows, types, analogies, and copies of spiritual realities that awaited the coming of Christ.

OT peoples, places, events and things were deliberately designed to be copies of a far greater spiritual reality, with Christ manifesting that reality through his fulfillment of it. The NT Scriptures are basically the record of how Christ unveiled the spiritual reality underlying the OT revelation.

The OT is like that of Architectural blueprint that an Engineer needs during construction. When the building actually comes to reality, the architectural blueprint doesn't get abandoned and destroyed but keep in place for further verification and documentations.

You can read more from this LINK which you can read further.

The Old Testament Covenant is referred to as the ministry of death and condemnation. It is a yoke of bondage. It killed the Jews in their thousands. It doesn't show mercy. Jesus delivered the Jews from it before the entire nation will be completely wiped out. He abolished it and ushered in grace that included both the Jews and the Gentiles. Unfortunately, the present Jews rejected the grace because of the partial blindness that happened to them. But one day after God us through with the Gentiles, the blindness will be removed and they will be saved.

What Ì just wrote above can be expanded to a hundred page book. May the Lord give you understanding.

sonmvayina:
Thank you for proving my point.

Which point?

Ken4Christ:
The Old Testament Covenant is referred to as the ministry of death and condemnation. It is a yoke of bondage. It killed the Jews in their thousands. It doesn't show mercy.

No! It wasn't the covenant that killed them in their thousands but their unbelieve.

Jesus delivered the Jews from it before the entire nation will be completely wiped out.

The entire Nation could be wiped out and still won't be anything.

The reason for that Nation couldn't be wiped out is simply because The Messiah must come from it. So Jesus didn't deliver THEM from being wiped out rather God used the Nation to bring Salvation to the whole World.

He abolished it and ushered in grace that included both the Jews and the Gentiles.

Jesus Himself said, He didn't ABOLISH anything but here you are saying Jesus did.

Who should we believe, you or Jesus?

May the Lord give you understanding.

Amen! And you too.

Emusan:
No! It wasn't the covenant that killed them in their thousands but their unbelieve.




The entire Nation could be wiped out and still won't be anything.

The reason for that Nation couldn't be wiped out is simply because The Messiah must come from it. So Jesus didn't deliver THEM from being wiped out rather God used the Nation to bring Salvation to the whole World.



Jesus Himself said, He didn't ABOLISH anything but here you are saying Jesus did.

Who should we believe, you or Jesus?



Amen! And you too.

What about the several scriptures that affirms the law has been abolished? Or didn't you read them in my previous post?

Besides, I have explained what Jesus meant in Matthew 5:17. He fulfilled the law which was a justified abolition. Read my explanation again at the beginning of this thread.

May the Lord grant you understanding.

Ken4Christ:
What about the several scriptures that affirms the law has been abolished?

No scripture explicitly says The Law has been ABOLISHED.

Or didn't you read them in my previous post?

The scripture you cited are your own interpretation.

Besides, I have explained what Jesus meant in Matthew 5:17.

What Jesus meant is a straight message, you're the one who doesn't understand that.

The whole Hebrew Scripture were deliberately designed that way to find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ.

He fulfilled the law which was a justified abolition.

This is where you're still getting it wrong.
Even though, you rightly said Jesus FULFILLED the Law (which I know you're referring Matt 5:17) but The Law was not ABOLISHED rather find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ. Which means

Read my explanation again at the beginning of this thread.

I did

May the Lord grant you understanding.

And you too.

The simple explanation is that Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) aren't under the Old Laws given to the Israelites rather what binds us together now is the law of Christ!
Yet if we read anything in Jesus' statement that's not clearly understood we go back to the laws in order to know the principle behind the law.
For instance God's law says:

“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it sacred.  You are to labor and do all your work for six days, but the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do any work, neither you nor your son nor your daughter nor your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your foreign resident who is inside your settlements.  For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and he began to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day and made it sacred. Exodus 20:8-11

The law said God began resting which we found written in Genesis 2:2 but Jesus said:

“My Father has kept working until now, and I keep working.” John 5:17

Someone who is not studious could just conclude that Jesus is a confusionist but what about Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well we go back to God's perfect law to gain insight:

The law of Jehovah is perfect, restoring strength. The reminder of Jehovah is trustworthy, making the inexperienced one wise. Psalms 19:7

And what did we find?

God Himself explained the principles behind the Sabbath:

“Six days you are to do your work; but on the seventh day, you are to cease from your labor, in order that your bull and your donkey may rest and the son of your slave girl and the foreign resident may refresh themselves." Exodus 23:12

With the help of God's Holy Spirit we are able to figure out the sacred secret {John 14:26-27; 16:12-13} it's to make the rich men give their labourers time to rest and spend time with their families and for the animals too to rest not that God needs rest or that our staying at home brought Him food!

Ken4Christ:
What the palmist is referring to is moral principles of God and not the law of Moses.
There are too many verses and passages that unveils the shortcomings of the law of Moses. Synonyms used in place of the law of Moses speaks volumes. These Synonyms are listed below:...

You are lost. What else does The Law which God gave Moses contain if they are not moral laws?

What shortcoming is in The Law other than the fact that you people refuse to obey it?

Did Christ not tell that rich man to follow Him? As the man did not follow Christ, is the man not the same as when Christ did not tell him anything?

You are just deceiving yourself and others whose blood shall be on your hands when they discover too late that you deceived them like Sat.. did to female Adam

Ken4Christ:
Besides, I have explained what Jesus meant in Matthew 5:17. He fulfilled the law which was a justified abolition. Read my explanation again at the beginning of this thread.

May the Lord grant you understanding.

So when the prophecies were fulfilled they were abolished?

So fulfilment means abolishment? And you say you are right thinking?

Ken4Christ:
Which point?

That God's laws are eternal.

Nobody has the power to change that.

The so called new covenant you posted is talking about writing his laws in their HEART. First time it was written on stone and paper, this time it will be written in their heart....same law. So it becomes effortless to keep and obey. Nobody is going from door to door to tell you to honor your parents or avoid adultery. God will write it in their heart......
Read the remaining part of post.
The new covenant is not a human sacrifice.....iy is the same law/Torah.

MaxInDHouse:
The simple explanation is that Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians) aren't under the Old Laws given to the Israelites rather what binds us together now is the law of Christ!
Yet if we read anything in Jesus' statement that's not clearly understood we go back to the laws in order to know the principle behind the law.
For instance God's law says:

“Remember the Sabbath day to keep it sacred.  You are to labor and do all your work for six days, but the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do any work, neither you nor your son nor your daughter nor your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your foreign resident who is inside your settlements.  For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and he began to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day and made it sacred. Exodus 20:8-11

The law said God began resting which we found written in Genesis 2:2 but Jesus said:

“My Father has kept working until now, and I keep working.” John 5:17

Someone who is not studious could just conclude that Jesus is a confusionist but what about Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well we go back to God's perfect law to gain insight:

The law of Jehovah is perfect, restoring strength. The reminder of Jehovah is trustworthy, making the inexperienced one wise. Psalms 19:7

And what did we find?

God Himself explained the principles behind the Sabbath:

“Six days you are to do your work; but on the seventh day, you are to cease from your labor, in order that your bull and your donkey may rest and the son of your slave girl and the foreign resident may refresh themselves." Exodus 23:12

With the help of God's Holy Spirit we are able to figure out the sacred secret {John 14:26-27; 16:12-13} it's to make the rich men give their labourers time to rest and spend time with their families and for the animals too to rest not that God needs rest or that our staying at home brought Him food!

Always shouting with the Help of God's Holy Spirit when in reality there's no connection between him and God's Holy Spirit.

Meanwhile, Sabbath isn't to make the rich men give their labourers time to rest and spend time with their families rather "Israel’s Sabbath observance, was modeled after God’s own Sabbath, was intended to point to a greater spiritual rest. Just as God had rested from his work of creation and entered into an eternal Sabbath, a day which continues for all eternity, believers are to rest from trying to merit their righteousness through observing the Law and trust in Christ’s perfect righteousness. Once a believer truly trusts in the Lord Jesus he enters into God’s own Sabbath whereby he no longer has to merit his justification since he has been given the promise of eternal life"

The book Heb chapter 4 enlightened us more on this, you can read the whole chapter but get this part first:

"So there remains a sabbath-rest for the people of God.  For the man who has entered into God’s rest has also rested from his own works, just as God did from his own. Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, so that no one may fall into the same pattern of disobedience." Heb 4:9-11 - NWT

sonmvayina:
That God's laws are eternal.

Nobody has the power to change that.

The so called new covenant you posted is talking about writing his laws in their HEART. First time it was written on stone and paper, this time it will be written in their heart....same law. So it becomes effortless to keep and obey. Nobody is going from door to door to tell you to honor your parents or avoid adultery. God will write it in their heart......
Read the remaining part of post.
The new covenant is not a human sacrifice.....iy is the same law/Torah.

But the law of Moses has been abolished. It demands strict obedience to be blessed. But now, the just shall live by faith.

For instance, the law of Moses is eye for eye and tooth for tooth. That instruction is not written in our hearts. Rather, we have a new instruction which says that we should not render evil for evil but rather, overcome evil with good.

Read Matthew 5 and see a few examples of the contrast between the law of Moses and the instructions of our Lord Jesus.

So, we are not yet on the same page.

Dtruthspeaker:
So when the prophecies were fulfilled they were abolished?

So fulfilment means abolishment? And you say you are right thinking?

The word fulfill means different thing depending on the context it is used. In the context our Lord Jesus used it in that verse, it means that the law has been brought to a justified end. And when something has ended, it also means it has been abolished. Apostle Paul who Jesus gave the divine revelations of the church said it in plain language. Read a few of the passages below:

Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is ABOLISHED

Ephesians 2:15 Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the LAW OF COMMANDMENTS COMMANDMENT contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

Ephesians made it clearer. It pointed out the subject matter- even the law of commandments.

In the Book of Romans, it says:

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the END OF THE LAW for righteousness to every one that believeth.

In a previously chapter of the same book, it is written:

Romans 7:4-6
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become DEAD TO THE LAW by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

I could go on and on. You will understand it fully when you read my book, 'Is the Church under the Law of Moses?

Dtruthspeaker:
You are lost. What else does The Law which God gave Moses contain if they are not moral laws?

What shortcoming is in The Law other than the fact that you people refuse to obey it?

Did Christ not tell that rich man to follow Him? As the man did not follow Christ, is the man not the same as when Christ did not tell him anything?

You are just deceiving yourself and others whose blood shall be on your hands when they discover too late that you deceived them like Sat.. did to female Adam

Romans 8:3 For what the LAW COULD NOT DO, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.

The Law of Moses could not give life:

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

Those who still try to keep the law of Moses are transgressing:

Galatians 2:16-18
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I MAKE MYSELF A TRANSGRESSOR.

Emusan:
No scripture explicitly says The Law has been ABOLISHED.



The scripture you cited are your own interpretation.



What Jesus meant is a straight message, you're the one who doesn't understand that.

The whole Hebrew Scripture were deliberately designed that way to find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ.



This is where you're still getting it wrong.
Even though, you rightly said Jesus FULFILLED the Law (which I know you're referring Matt 5:17) but The Law was not ABOLISHED rather find their fulfillment in Jesus Christ. Which means




I did



And you too.

You said no scripture says that the law has been abolished. Read the evidence below:

Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is ABOLISHED.

Ephesians 2:15 Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

Another synonym used is disannuled:

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a DISANNULLING OF THE COMMANDMENT going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God

The International Standard Version puts it this way:
Romans 7:18-19
18 Indeed, because it was weak and ineffective, the former COMMANDMENT HAS BEEN ANNULLED,

19 since the Law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is presented, by which we approach God.

Synonyms of the word annul are;

Cancel

Invalidate

Void

Nullify

Revoke

Rescind

Repeal

ABOLISH

Abrogate

Set aside

Emusan:
Always shouting with the Help of God's Holy Spirit when in reality there's no connection between him and God's Holy Spirit.
Meanwhile, Sabbath isn't to make the rich men give their labourers time to rest and spend time with their families rather "Israel’s Sabbath observance, was modeled after God’s own Sabbath, was intended to point to a greater spiritual rest. Just as God had rested from his work of creation and entered into an eternal Sabbath, a day which continues for all eternity, believers are to rest from trying to merit their righteousness through observing the Law and trust in Christ’s perfect righteousness. Once a believer truly trusts in the Lord Jesus he enters into God’s own Sabbath whereby he no longer has to merit his justification since he has been given the promise of eternal life"

The book Heb chapter 4 enlightened us more on this, you can read the whole chapter but get this part first:

"So there remains a sabbath-rest for the people of God.  For the man who has entered into God’s rest has also rested from his own works, just as God did from his own. Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, so that no one may fall into the same pattern of disobedience." Heb 4:9-11 - NWT

Please mention the name of your church where Sabbath is still practiced let's learn one or two things from them!

MaxInDHouse:
Please mention the name of your church where Sabbath is still practiced let's learn one or two things from them!

Can you imagine

But you're the one who claimed Sabbath is still in practice today.

Emusan:
Can you imagine
But you're the one who claimed Sabbath is still in practice today.

Which means you don't understand the post!

Ken4Christ:
You said no scripture says that the law has been abolished.

Yes! Remember it's about OP.

I've even mentioned Eph 2:15 in my first post.

Read the evidence below:

Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is ABOLISHED.

Ephesians 2:15 Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

Another synonym used is disannuled:

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a DISANNULLING OF THE COMMANDMENT going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God

The International Standard Version puts it this way:
Romans 7:18-19
18 Indeed, because it was weak and ineffective, the former COMMANDMENT HAS BEEN ANNULLED,

19 since the Law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is presented, by which we approach God.

Synonyms of the word annul are;

Cancel

Invalidate

Void

Nullify

Revoke

Rescind

Repeal

ABOLISH

Abrogate

Set aside

This didn't address my point.

Look at the content again and see that Apostle Paul didn't talk about transition from the law to Christ the same way you're doing.

Jesus Christ made it cleared that He didn't come to "ABOLISH THE LAW but to FULFILL" this shows, there's no 1 reason not to talk of 20 reason as your Title implies.

The chosen of the Nation of Israel, the given of the Laws, the historical events & gentile separation are basically designed in such way to find their reality being revealed in Jesus Christ.

It's not that God gave the laws and later found 20 reason to ABOLISH those laws.

Very simple!

Ken4Christ:
But the law of Moses has been abolished. It demands strict obedience to be blessed. But now, the just shall live by faith.

For instance, the law of Moses is eye for eye and tooth for tooth. That instruction is not written in our hearts. Rather, we have a new instruction which says that we should not render evil for evil but rather, overcome evil with good.

Read Matthew 5 and see a few examples of the contrast between the law of Moses and the instructions of our Lord Jesus.

So, we are not yet on the same page.

God gave one law in Sinai.

Nobody has the power to change it. It remains forever.
Jesus is a Roman construct. There is nowhere in the entire Tanakh that a prophet reported that God will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son. No where. That is the first question you should be asking.
Obey the Torah....stop following a Roman idol.

The old testament laws has being abolished. The new testament law is the law of the Spirit.
Christ didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it meaning during christ life time the law was still very much invoke but was fulfilled (ran it course) by his death abolished. The purpose of the law is to lead men to Christ.

sonmvayina:
God gave one law in Sinai.

Nobody has the power to change it. It remains forever.
Jesus is a Roman construct. There is nowhere in the entire Tanakh that a prophet reported that God will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son. No where. That is the first question you should be asking.
Obey the Torah....stop following a Roman idol.

No, Jesus is not a Roman idol. He is the Messiah. He fulfilled over 300 prophecies in the Old Testament. Even Prophet Daniel predicted the exact year of his death. Not a single human on earth has fulfilled written prophecies like Jesus did.

The Romans were the one who killed him with conspiracy from the chief priests and elders in Israel. But thank God he is alive. And you are the evidence that Jesus lives. Your birth, events are all cited with reference to Jesus. It's either BC or AD. You don't know the date you were born if not for Jesus. Jesus is Lord. If you don't accept him as your Lord and Saviour, you will meet him as your judge. And your final destination will be the Lake of fire. So, repent before it's too late.

Emusan:
Yes! Remember it's about OP.

I've even mentioned Eph 2:15 in my first post.



This didn't address my point.

Look at the content again and see that Apostle Paul didn't talk about transition from the law to Christ the same way you're doing.

Jesus Christ made it cleared that He didn't come to "ABOLISH THE LAW but to FULFILL" this shows, there's no 1 reason not to talk of 20 reason as your Title implies.

The chosen of the Nation of Israel, the given of the Laws, the historical events & gentile separation are basically designed in such way to find their reality being revealed in Jesus Christ.

It's not that God gave the laws and later found 20 reason to ABOLISH those laws.

Very simple!

You are grossly dishonest. You hinge your point on just one verse of Scripture and ignore many others that says otherwise. Even in the court of law, one witness or evidence is not enough to establish a case. So, you already lost. Be humble and accept the truth. The Law of Moses was never part of God's original plan. It only came to regulate the lives of the Jews pending when Christ will show up. Now that Christ has showed up, the law has been set aside to pave way for the original plan. Hence, Paul wrote:

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER A SCHOOLMASTER.

Paul said that we are no longer under a school master - law of Moses.

Remember that Paul is a Jew.

Ken4Christ:
You are grossly dishonest.

Haa!

Your fellow worshiper of Jesus!