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LordReed:
Do I say my religion in the OP?

Hmmmm, i know your religion. Are you a robot?

Image123:
Hmmmm, i know your religion. Are you a robot?

LoLz. You like to talk as if you know my mind but even when I plainly state something your attempts to dribble your own shadow make you look clownish.

LordReed:
LoLz. You like to talk as if you know my mind but even when I plainly state something your attempts to dribble your own shadow make you look clownish.

Ahh, what are you talking about? Were your posts here about 8 years ago in your mind. Don't they point to the fact that you used to worship God and Jesus? Is it not on this same platform that we talked about even your family?

Image123:
Ahh, what are you talking about? Were your posts here about 8 years ago in your mind. Don't they point to the fact that you used to worship God and Jesus? Is it not on this same platform that we talked about even your family?

LoLz. We are talking about this thread and you jump to posts from 8 years ago. Guy just accept you have nothing further to say and rest. Bwahahahahahaha!

LordReed:
LoLz. We are talking about this thread and you jump to posts from 8 years ago. Guy just accept you have nothing further to say and rest. Bwahahahahahaha!

We're not robots. On this thread, you're talking about your independence from religion, a religion which we both know. i don't have to be in your thoughts to remember.

Image123:
We're not robots. On this thread, you're talking about your independence from religion, a religion which we both know. i don't have to be in your thoughts to remember.

Dude you even wrote it yet you can't still figure it out. Independence from RELIGION not a religion meaning all religions not just the one I was practicing in the past. If I want to talk about Christianity I would have mentioned it by name. Stop trying to dribble your own shadow. LMAO.

LordReed:
Dude you even wrote it can't still figure it out. Independence from RELIGION not a religion meaning all religions not just the one I was practicing in the past. If I want to talk about Christianity I would have mentioned it by name. Stop trying to dribble your own shadow. LMAO.

Oh, so as i am now, you want to gaslight me that i am not free from Hindu or Buddha or some herbalist. Have your say oh, mr independence.

Image123:
Oh, so as i am now, you want to gaslight me that i am not free from Hindu or Buddha or some herbalist. Have your say oh, mr independence.

I dunno, are you? LoLz.

It doesn't pay to try to be too clever by half.

Image123:
You are talking about the Bible nonetheless.

And the Qur'an. Two of the most wonderful books ever written, as far as concerning Nigerians.

budaatum:
And the Qur'an. Two of the most wonderful books ever written, as far as concerning Nigerians.

Okay? Same point.

terrezo2002:
Most atheists can't pin point the reason the left religion. When you ask them, they will say a lot of things without answering the question. What a life.

I was born an atheist, and didn't have religion shoved in my mouth with a tit. Believing in gods was like believing the tortoise in Things Fall Apart.

What I was taught was to question, and that's the antithesis of belief. Probably why I like the Bible too, because despite all the belief it's also written that one should Test every spirit. Spirit, as in, the meaning and implication, and God being that which is good.

Not everything written about God in the Bible is good however, but I forgive the writers for their limited ancient understanding.

LordReed:
➜Atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. Therefore it is not a belief. Maybe stoned people do that. Are you stoned? It doesn't matter when the TV is off it not displaying a channel therefore you cannot claim to be watching a cable TV station when the TV is off.

This is simple, really! There is absolutely no scientific or philosophical proof as to the existence or non-existence of a God. The assertion that no gods exist is contained within the scope of religion, where anything is allowed.

Kobojunkie:
This is simple, really! There is absolutely no scientific or philosophical proof as to the existence or non-existence of a God. The assertion that no gods exist is contained within the scope of religion, where anything is allowed.

It's very simple really, atheists lack of belief is not a belief.

LordReed:
It's very simple really, atheists lack of belief is not a belief.

Lack of belief in the absence of proof(for or against) is belief/faith or whatever religious people like to call it.

Kobojunkie:
This is simple, really! There is absolutely no scientific or philosophical proof as to the existence or non-existence of a God. The assertion that no gods exist is contained within the scope of religion, where anything is allowed.

Anything is not allowed in human thought and reasoning, of which the scope of religion is a part of, and mostly just what is decided to be chosen to believe in ones head.

You will allow me to pay for your car in stones I believe are worth millions I don't think, unless you believe me in your own head.

budaatum:
➜Anything is not allowed in human thought and reasoning, of which the scope of religion is a part of, and mostly just what is decided to be chosen to believe in ones head.....

That is what atheism is. The idea is without evidence, hence it is religious in orientation, a belief held despite lack of evidence.

Kobojunkie:
That is what atheism is. The idea is without evidence, hence it is religious in orientation, a belief held despite lack of evidence.

That is what atheism is to you.

There is lots of evidence if one can bother to look and see, and I am an atheist because the extensive available evidence I have studied clearly shows that all gods are created by human beings.

I do not want you to accept this however, because if you do, you would be believing me, which is against my atheism.

Kobojunkie:
Lack of belief in the absence of proof(for or against) is belief/faith or whatever religious people like to call it.

LoLz. Yes like an off TV is also a cable channel. A thing can either be or not be, it cannot be both. Lack of belief cannot be belief.

budaatum:
➜That is what atheism is to you.....

I didn't create the definition, nor am I responsible for the lack of proof that makes it more a religious idea than anything else.

LordReed:
LoLz. Yes like an off TV is also a cable channel. A thing can either be or not be, it cannot be both. Lack of belief cannot be belief.

Dont bother trying to explain that the afternoon cannot be the night.
Or that a square cannot be a circle.

Or that zero cannot be 100.

The minute you are drawn into such explanations, the persons trying to gaslight you have succeeded.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't create the definition, nor am I responsible for the lack of proof that makes it more a religious idea than anything else.

But you did create your own definition. The definition you gave is your definition you created. Or did you copy it from somewhere did you? It expressed your understanding of what an atheists holds in their heads. Your definition is different to my definition, which I created for myself in my head just like you created your definition for yourself.

Search and you will find very many definitions of atheist and atheism held in many different peoples head, so why would you insist your own understanding is the only one possible definition? Wouldn't that be like claiming all churches worship Jesus?

For your "proof that gods don't really exist". Consider the following.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/s/gMTFJz41qR

As for your, "makes it more a religious idea than anything else", of course atheism is a "religious idea". It is the religious consideration of the existence of a religious god that billions religiously worship. What else could it be if not the consideration of religious ideas?

A definition. Better is books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

budaatum:
✓ But you did create your own definition. The definition you gave is your definition you created. Or did you copy it from somewhere did you? It expressed your understanding of what an atheists holds in their heads. Your definition is different to my definition, which I created for myself in my head just like you created your definition for yourself.

Search and you will find very many definitions of atheist and atheism held in many different peoples head, so why would you insist your own understanding is the only one possible definition? Wouldn't that be like claiming all churches worship Jesus?

For your "proof that gods don't really exist". Consider the following.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/s/gMTFJz41qR

As for your, "makes it more a religious idea than anything else", of course atheism is a "religious idea". It is the religious consideration of the existence of a religious god that billions religiously worship. What else could it be if not the consideration of religious ideas?

A definition. Better is books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

Stop shifting all over the place. You go nowhere by doing so.

Atheism is defined as a lack of belief in a deity or deities, not an absence of religion.

I am reminded of Buddhism which presents similar idea. No deity yet it is a religion nonetheless.🤔

Buddhists do not worship a god in the way that many other religions do. Buddhism is often described as a non-theistic religion, meaning it doesn't focus on a creator god or supreme being. Instead, Buddhists follow the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, also known as the Buddha, and strive to achieve enlightenment (Nirvana) through practices like meditation and mindfulness. While some Buddhists may venerate the Buddha or other enlightened beings, such as Bodhisattvas, this is done as a form of respect and inspiration, not as worship in the sense of seeking divine intervention, according to religious education resources.

DeepSight:
Dont bother trying to explain that the afternoon cannot be the night.
Or that a square cannot be a circle.

Or that zero cannot be 100.

The minute you are drawn into such explanations, the persons trying to gaslight you have succeeded.

You may be correct but I also feel they are trying more to convince themselves.