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| Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by kmst(op): 4:54pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
This message is for those that care to consider non-emotional approach to 2027. Has anyone noticed how BAT has used state apparatus to penetrate PO base in the SS? BAT has cornered SS leaders already, they won't fight for obi even if APC wants to steal their votes for BAT and definitely online tweets won't be able to fight them. They will flood military and police (ofcos it only happens in the south all the time, and they get away with it) SE is on their own as far as South and the equation is concerned right now. There's no sugar coating it anymore for those who want the truth. BAT will rather die than release presidency to someone from the SE! He is not GEJ that let buhari take it without fighting back with state powers. Only a northerner can challenge that political power right now. Look around you, even the SE leaders are dinning with BAT just out of fear and intimidation because I don't want to believe it's money. South-easterners will have to be pragmatic to swallow the bitter pill and allow OBi deputize Atiku ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer. It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them) Kenneth okwonko was also saying same thing. In as much as Obi is a better personality and the best, Nigeria is not an ideal system for the best to compete at least not for now. How many people make it through merit in Nigeria even outside the political arena? Talk less of the dirty politics Nigeria practices! Think! Some PO supporters like me won't mind, even the online warriors shouting Obi or nothing will bend with time before 2027. The way some are thinking is that PO can make normal Nigerians really come out and vote for him but what they fail to digest is the fact that BAT and inec will not allow an ideal system for their votes to count for PO! You need an old horse like Atiku on the ticket even if he is a necessary evil! There are no two ways out for PO APC is trying to deceive him to resigning from the coalition if he doesn't get the ticket, they are only massaging his ego to use that as a weapon. PO doesn't have the grassroot political structure to curb and oppose rigging that happens in the rural areas and that's where the elections are won. Enlightened Nigerians will vote in mass but in the end their votes won't count cos we will all go back to X to be shouting at inec when inec has already cooked in BAT (at 3am) already. It happened in the last election, they called it glitch They will do it again! They have just done another one in Edo... PO chance will be after 4yrs of Atiku,he needs to make sure they work together to get the right reforms in Inec before Atiku hands over, and he will win cos I know they will obviously do better than Tinubu and PMB so Nigerians will at large vote for him. That is the only time a clean person like Obi (a son of no man ) can win a national election in Nigeria without the cabal. It will not and cannot happen when BAT and INec is still functioning in this manner. They will split SS votes seriously... Rivers results last election will be child play in 2027 for the whole of SS I'm not even going to consider anything from SW cos they will go all out to kill anyone for BAT in that region in 2027 no jokes. Also Middle belt they will do everything to rig it for BAT. The only person that can win right now is someone with an unbroken base which is why Atiku is doing so much to gather buhari's CPC from the north. Whatever crumbs fall from the table of the south will make coalition winner with this approach. Boss mustapha has said the obvious but some emotional beings are arguing it out. Once you have a strong northern candidate, an alliance with any part of the south be it SW or SS or SE will win you the elections. Buhari failed always because neither SE nor SW or SS ever supported him with block votes in all those times. He won in 2015 not necessarily because of SW,(Fgs how many votes does SW ever give to a presidential candidate historically? It shows in every other national elections) If he(PMB) had gotten a strong alliance with any other southern region he would have gotten the needed votes to win. If you combine block votes of SE and block votes of Northern block, added with crumbs from other regions, any other person is toast in the elections. It is simple arithmetic! Not emotions. What the coalition should solidy on is the recent hate on BAT by the north they should work to make sure they really heat everything up there against BAT and it is done deal. PO will be president, yes I believe so but whether it is now or never depends on his choice today with the coalition! |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Pinklada: 5:55pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
kmst:Zombie no go think unless u tell am to think Zombie Zombie o Zombie Zombie o Zombie Baba Fela |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by specialmati(m): 6:05pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
kmst: so you want to replace Tinubu with another Tinubu (Atiku) and you want a better nigeria Biko make T-pain continue .noise is too much of resent make that nigga hit this dollar to like 5k na.Tinubu should be allowed to finish the good work he started dollar must keep going up .if you make 1000 dollar you are a millionaire.so that guy is making Nigerians millionaire just with a thousand dollar . Tinubu is a good leader |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Atiku told you he will leave in 4 years? Have you seen any president or governor in Nigeria who refused to go for 2nd term? And you think that will start with Atiku a man who has been contesting for over 30yrs |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Felabrity: 6:29pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Like say any governor fight for Obi before Yet he won 12 states |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by AMINDA: 6:29pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Obi contesting as an independent candidate will only hurt Tinubu because Southern votes will be splitted. Tinubu got 5.6m votes in the North out of his total 8.3m in 2023. Northerners will now give those numbers to their son, Atiku. Meanwhile, Tinubu is still not popular in the South. Obi will always win him 10 times out of 10. Makinde will contest under PDP further shrinking Tinubu's numbers in the Southwest. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by jmoore(m): 6:44pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
All these blackmail won't work. Southeast will not vote for Atiku. In fact, if Obi doesn't win in 2027, SE will start boycotting future presidential elections.. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by sreamsense: 6:56pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
The op wants to make Obi becomes a liar again. Obi himself said that he will never deputize anybody for 2027 race, you want people to vote for a lar Obi if he accepts to be a deputy to Atiku, right? No political equation will ever balance against Tinubus as far as 2027 is concerned. Tinubus remains your president till 2031 by God's grace, how is that difficult for obidients to understand and rest instead of making noise up and down? |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by destinychildolu(m): 6:56pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
raumdeuter:If Atiku gets elected and suddenly dollar is 800 and bag of rice 35k and fuel sold for 500. Do you think he deserves to be re-elected |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 7:38pm On Jul 10, 2025*. Modified: 9:20am On Jul 11, 2025 |
Same thing I said earlier in one of my posts and I was tagged anti Obidient and not being igbo. Let Atiku do his 4 years, reform INEC to make our votes count then Obi enters. If it's ok for Obi to be deputy for Atiku it's still fine as long as the agreement is on paper and upheld that Atiku does only one term and hand over to Obi ( with the Northerners backing and also with people who wants to witness Obi's presidency). However it will be better another Southerner to deputize Atiku other than Obi in my own opinion o so that Atiku will have his own presidency and Obi will have his own presidency as well. This is STRATEGY and NOT EMOTIONS Even if Obi contest alone under LP, or even with the backing of Atiku under ADC, Obi will loose especially under this TINUBU. And even if Atiku looses in 2027 without Obi's backing with votes, he still has a stronger chance/opportunity in 2031 and another time Obi or a Southerner will have a chance again is in 2039. It's only the North that can fight head on against this TINUBU Thanks OP you said the outright truth void of emotions most especially when you said ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig "cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer. It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them)" The North with their numbers and nerve will fight (even physically) for their own with this hunger as a weapon unlike the South particularly the eastern part Infact let me tell you what will happen in 2027. Tinubu will loose but he will not agree to step aside like GEJ. They will be bloodshed and crisis which the North can easily champion alongside hungry southerners that wants Tinubu out. The military will come in and re-conduct a fresh election and Atiku will win afterwards. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by SeeWahala: 7:42pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Obidients don't need to think about anything. It's the turn of the south. If atiku is going to run we won't vote him. Rathe let tilumbu continue whatever he's doing there till 2031 and the north takes over. Nigeria will survive (even if one million people die from the government's bad policies before then) |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 7:45pm On Jul 10, 2025*. Modified: 8:02pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
SeeWahala:Disguising Agbado that just registered Nairaland account in 2023...abeg go and sit down one place. Tinubu keyboard warrior If Tinubu enters again, there's nothing he will do again than to run this country down kpata kpata Even if na birthday party I go support as long as Tinubu doesn't return again |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by SeeWahala: 7:46pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Chidibe212:Yes I am Agbad0 on this thread ![]() Tilumbu till 2031 instead of Atiku ![]() |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by helinues: 7:46pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Atiku presidency, a Northerner can't sell in both SW and SS |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by helinues: 7:48pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
AMINDA:President Tinubu is now the president with state apparatus in hand |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
This is why their fake pastors are claiming obi is destined to be president and I laugh. They all want Obi and Atiku in the ballot so their master can have block votes. If you know how propaganda works, you will understand the trajectory. Obi should be careful of his circle right now because most of those pushing him are working for Tinubu. He can stop Tinubu if North sincerely suports him but Tinubu boys will rather die than let that happen and this is where Atiku will come in. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 7:48pm On Jul 10, 2025*. Modified: 8:10pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
helinues:Nigerians that Tinubu has impoverished both in the entire North, South South, South west and South East that wants APC and Tinubu out will sell very very well in this Election. If Tinubu enters again, there's nothing good he will do again than to run this country down kpata kpata |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by AMINDA: 7:54pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
helinues:Okay, your Tinubu intends to use state apparatus to win re-election? I'm glad even his die-hard fans are coming to terms with the fact that he has no realistic pathway to victory. Tinubu and his state apparatus will be resisted across the entire North and in the East. He's free to rig the Southsouth. They appear docile but their numbers won't get Tinubu across. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Mbanda(m): 7:58pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
helinues:Rigging loading... Without rigging your principal will go nowhere because Nigerians don't like him and he knows. Let's see how it goes ![]() |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by stanluiz(m): 8:03pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
helinues:Speak for your SW and stop dragging the SS. Atiku will get at least 50% of SS votes. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Christistruth03: 8:05pm On Jul 10, 2025*. Modified: 9:04am On Jul 12, 2025 |
Ojukwu did a number on their ability to think deeply They haven't been OK since he dumped them at the Warfront and fled. It must have been so traumatic to br abandoned by your own leader |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by stanluiz(m): 8:06pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
AMINDA:Atiku will still get a good amount of votes there. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by WesleyPepper: 8:07pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
AMINDA:This one is still a toddler . Makinde shrink Tinubu’s votes ke when the latter is obviously the unseen hand controlling the PDP. The SW would certainly roll over for Tinubu in 2027 same way they did for the less popular OBJ in 2003. 2027 would be a replay of the 2003 with little tweaks here and there 🤌🏾 |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by NgeneUkwenu(f): 8:08pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
AMINDA:You lie too much! Why? Is it to make yourself happy or what? I have advised you that you should always remove North Central votes from your imaginary Northern votes for Tinubu. The core North only gave Tinubu 3.1M votes. And in 2027, it could even be 2M. But Tinubu will clear South West , South South South, North Central and 35% votes in the South East...Buhari betrayal of 2023 will not suffice...This is elections that is going to be conducted by Tinubu/Wike. Atiku will not see 10% in of the 17 South states and about 3 states in North Central...with or without Obi in the ticket. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by WesleyPepper: 8:10pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
destinychildolu:Dollar won’t go back to 800 unless it is heavily subsidized or we go heavily start producing which definitely won’t happen under the nonagerian corrupt Atiku . You atilulooters are already creating excuses for Atiku to renege on agreement |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 8:14pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
jmoore:Who looses out completely? We that are inconsequential and Dots.. We that are not even united.. Who does our minority (in numbers) boycotting help? You are still using emotions. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 8:18pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
WesleyPepper:Oga the South west are not united for Tinubu anymore unlike 2023 because of what his bad policies have brought especially hunger and hardship. |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by Chidibe212(f): 8:24pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Felabrity:Obi's votes was clearly rigged in Rivers, who fought for it? You can't try that with Northerners. The reason why Atiku's votes were divided in 2023 is because it's the turn of the South. But with the way Tinubu is handling Nigeria, he needs to be removed by all means. That man sees himself as a God being President |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by WesleyPepper: 8:25pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
AMINDA:There’s no monolithic North . Remove the great middle belt, Kwara, Kogi and Niger from your jaundiced write up . There’s no pathway leading to an Atiku presidency in 2027 |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by WesleyPepper: 8:27pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
Chidibe212:Dey whine yourself So the SW would leave Tinubu to enthrone Atiku Abi . If you had said Obi, I might agree but never Atiku . |
| Re: Can Obidients Think Deeper For A Minute? by SeeWahala: 8:28pm On Jul 10, 2025 |
WesleyPepper:No mind am. Na atiku mikanolite PDP bot be that 😏 No LeVeL |
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