₦airaland Forum

Chidibe212:
Obi's votes was clearly rigged in Rivers, who fought for it?

You can't try that with Northerners.

The reason why Atiku's votes were divided in 2023 is because it's the turn of the South.

But with the way Tinubu is handling Nigeria, he needs to be removed by all means. That man sees himself as a God being President

just so you know, Obi votes were reduced in almost every states

From Rivers to Delta to Bayelsa to Kaduna to Abuja to Edo to Lagos

Yet he won 12 states


Tinubu and Atiku governors foughted for also won 12 states each

WesleyPepper:
Dey whine yourself
So the SW would leave Tinubu to enthrone Atiku Abi . If you had said Obi, I might agree but never Atiku .

If our Obi backs Atiku and convinces us his followers why we should back ATIKU, Oga Tinubu is a Gonna and he will be a gonna in 2027.

Even without conviction from our Obi, Tinubu will definitely be OTP if Obi is not in the ballot

That's the strategy and it's a bold one
SW and SS can give BAT if they want no problem as far as SE delivers block and north does too, no shaking
Infact that won't be the first scenario, BAT can't even have block either from SS or SW(maybe 60%)
Highest SS and North central will split and he will need more numbers that no other region outside that will give him
BAT will be a toast
The numbers don't lie

helinues:
Atiku presidency, a Northerner can't sell in both SW and SS

Chidibe212:
If our Obi backs Atiku and convinces us his followers why we should back ATIKU, Oga Tinubu is a Gonna and he will be a gonna in 2027.

Not in the SW definitely.
No one is backing Atiku in the SW. Infact, PDP is currently the next party after the APC in the SW.
Atiku should look elsewhere for his votes

Chidibe212:
If our Obi backs Atiku and convinces us his followers why we should back ATIKU, Oga Tinubu is a Gonna and he will be a gonna in 2027.

Even without conviction from our Obi, Tinubu will definitely be OTP if Obi is not in the ballot

You are not an obidient, you're just masquerading here. Drop this your act at once

Obi is not a SE candidate but a Nigerian one. The CPC block should back Obi because without Obi there's no coalition.

Mentioning Obi as vp to Atiku is a disgusting abomination, please don't mention it again. If Atiku feels he has the wherewithal to defeat Tinubu, let him choose Amaechi as VP.

Obi will run for the president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

In 2023, Obi won 12 states, Atiku won 12 states even with PDP structures.

Peter Obi as the concensus presidential candidate of the coalition is non-negotiable

kmst:
This message is for those that care to consider non-emotional approach to 2027.
Has anyone noticed how BAT has used state apparatus to penetrate PO base in the SS?
BAT has cornered SS leaders already, they won't fight for obi even if APC wants to steal their votes for BAT and definitely online tweets won't be able to fight them. They will flood military and police (ofcos it only happens in the south all the time, and they get away with it)

SE is on their own as far as South and the equation is concerned right now.
There's no sugar coating it anymore for those who want the truth.
BAT will rather die than release presidency to someone from the SE!
He is not GEJ that let buhari take it without fighting back with state powers. Only a northerner can challenge that political power right now. Look around you, even the SE leaders are dinning with BAT just out of fear and intimidation because I don't want to believe it's money.

South-easterners will have to be pragmatic to swallow the bitter pill and allow OBi deputize Atiku
ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer.
It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them)

Kenneth okwonko was also saying same thing.
In as much as Obi is a better personality and the best, Nigeria is not an ideal system for the best to compete at least not for now.
How many people make it through merit in Nigeria even outside the political arena? Talk less of the dirty politics Nigeria practices!
Think!

Some PO supporters like me won't mind, even the online warriors shouting Obi or nothing will bend with time before 2027.

The way some are thinking is that PO can make normal Nigerians really come out and vote for him but what they fail to digest is the fact that BAT and inec will not allow an ideal system for their votes to count for PO!
You need an old horse like Atiku on the ticket even if he is a necessary evil!

There are no two ways out for PO
APC is trying to deceive him to resigning from the coalition if he doesn't get the ticket, they are only massaging his ego to use that as a weapon.
PO doesn't have the grassroot political structure to curb and oppose rigging that happens in the rural areas and that's where the elections are won.
Enlightened Nigerians will vote in mass but in the end their votes won't count cos we will all go back to X to be shouting at inec when inec has already cooked in BAT (at 3am) already.

It happened in the last election, they called it glitch
They will do it again!
They have just done another one in Edo...

PO chance will be after 4yrs of Atiku,he needs to make sure they work together to get the right reforms in Inec before Atiku hands over, and he will win cos I know they will obviously do better than Tinubu and PMB so Nigerians will at large vote for him.
That is the only time a clean person like Obi (a son of no man ) can win a national election in Nigeria without the cabal.

It will not and cannot happen when BAT and INec is still functioning in this manner. They will split SS votes seriously... Rivers results last election will be child play in 2027 for the whole of SS
I'm not even going to consider anything from SW cos they will go all out to kill anyone for BAT in that region in 2027 no jokes.
Also Middle belt they will do everything to rig it for BAT.

The only person that can win right now is someone with an unbroken base which is why Atiku is doing so much to gather buhari's CPC from the north. Whatever crumbs fall from the table of the south will make coalition winner with this approach.

Boss mustapha has said the obvious but some emotional beings are arguing it out.
Once you have a strong northern candidate, an alliance with any part of the south be it SW or SS or SE will win you the elections.
Buhari failed always because neither SE nor SW or SS ever supported him with block votes in all those times.
He won in 2015 not necessarily because of SW,(Fgs how many votes does SW ever give to a presidential candidate historically? It shows in every other national elections)
If he(PMB) had gotten a strong alliance with any other southern region he would have gotten the needed votes to win.

If you combine block votes of SE and block votes of Northern block, added with crumbs from other regions, any other person is toast in the elections. It is simple arithmetic! Not emotions.
What the coalition should solidy on is the recent hate on BAT by the north they should work to make sure they really heat everything up there against BAT and it is done deal.

PO will be president, yes I believe so but whether it is now or never depends on his choice today with the coalition!

kmst:
That's the strategy and it's a bold one
SW and SS can give BAT if they want no problem as far as SE delivers block and north does too, no shaking
Infact that won't be the first scenario, BAT can't even have block either from SS or SW(maybe 60%)
Highest SS and North central will split and he will need more numbers that no other region outside that will give him
BAT will be a toast
The numbers don't lie

CORRECT!!!

FULL STOP!!


Southwest is divided as we speak because of Tinubu's hardship that wiped tribalism or religious followership out of their eyes and senses.

jmoore:
All these blackmail won't work. Southeast will not vote for Atiku.

In fact, if Obi doesn't win in 2027, SE will start boycotting future presidential elections..

That would be good news to me as I will do everything in my power to ensure SE does not smell the presidential office

helinues:
Atiku presidency, a Northerner can't sell in both SW and SS

Leave SS alone and speak for yourself.
Tinibu is not SS choice deal with this fact.

That's BAT begging to be president

Well he's now in total control imagine the level rigging they're planning right now

Stakes are high seriously, and Obidients need to watch keenly and support PO with whatever decision he comes up with
PO knows best that's why he decided to join the coalition

Felabrity:
just so you know, Obi votes were reduced in almost every states

From Rivers to Delta to Bayelsa to Kaduna to Abuja to Edo to Lagos

Yet he won 12 states


Tinubu and Atiku governors foughted for also won 12 states each

DMerciful:
Obi is not a SE candidate but a Nigerian one. The CPC block should back Obi because without Obi there's no coalition.

Mentioning Obi as vp to Atiku is a disgusting abomination, please don't mention it again. If Atiku feels he has the wherewithal to defeat Tinubu, let him choose Amaechi as VP.

Obi will run for the president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

In 2023, Obi won 12 states, Atiku won 12 states even with PDP structures.

Peter Obi as the concensus presidential candidate of the coalition is non-negotiable

OBIDIENTS always like to reap where they did not sow.


Obi did not contribute anything to the coalition and yet his OBIDIENTS want everything to be handed over to Obi on a platter of gold.
Atiku has been using his resources like money, influence and connections to pull other politicians to forma the coalition while Obi has been galivanting upandan contributing nothing yet his OBIDIENTS are attacking Atiku for daring to contest in the primary.

* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were spending money and renting venues and paying for logistics?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were traveling all over the country attracting other politicians to join the coalition?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were making efforts at INEC and forming the ADC?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were having sleepless nights organising meetings deep into the night just to ensure the coalition comes to fruition?


Peter Obi did not contribute anything to the emergence of the coalition only came in at the eleventh hour and his horde of OBIDIENTS are angry with Atiku just because they asked everyone to contest in the primary.

Felabrity:
just so you know, Obi votes were reduced in almost every states

From Rivers to Delta to Bayelsa to Kaduna to Abuja to Edo to Lagos

Yet he won 12 states


Tinubu and Atiku governors foughted for also won 12 states each

Do you think Obi's votes will be so reduced if he has Atiku's block votes in this 2027? NO

But the thing and problem here is Tinubu who will not hands off like GEJ. It's only the North that can face him physically even if Tinubu comes with security forces with guns. It's Only the North that have the heart and mind to fight. Truth be told, we South general na mouth we get. We don't have the fight/defend spirit the North have. That's why I said it will be wise we rally behind Atiku to win over Tinubu. After Atiku's 4 years Obi takes over as long as the agreement is signed by all ADC party stakeholders.

Chidibe212:
Do you think Obi's votes will be so reduced if he has Atiku's block votes in this 2027? NO

But the thing and problem here is Tinubu who will not hands off like GEJ. It's only the North that can face him physically even if Tinubu comes with security forces with guns. It's Only the North that have the heart and mind to fight. Truth be told, we South general na mouth we get. We don't have the fight/defend spirit the North have.

I get your point.

I am actually rooting for an Atiku/Obi ticket in 2027

kmst:
That's BAT begging to be president

Well he's now in total control imagine the level rigging they're planning right now

Stakes are high seriously, and Obidients need to watch keenly and support PO with whatever decision he comes up with
PO knows best that's why he decided to join the coalition

I understand now, Obi no get the mind to face Tinubu even though Obi has more supports


if Obi contest under LP, he won't see 9 states

Nigeria needs a united opposition in 2027

Deh play Nigeria at large will still continue
Only SE will loose and by 2031 and 2035-2039 Nigeria would have gotten another PO from another region

You all should better support him now that pan Nigerians are happy with him
If you insist on him or no... your choice
It will be wise for SE to get along with this allignment with the north.
If you refuse this chance going forward, hmm chances will not be bright for SE
You can't live without working with other regions
Nigeria is big!
You negotiate with interest
Not deciding not to participate! That's childish

jmoore:
All these blackmail won't work. Southeast will not vote for Atiku.

In fact, if Obi doesn't win in 2027, SE will start boycotting future presidential elections..

Obidients think deep, how can they? They take their direction from whatever Peter Obí does, whether right or wrong.

This is why I am glad I am a confirmed bona fide neutral, I don't have to follow anyone, talk less a Nigerian politician like say I nor get sense.

Felabrity:
I get your point.

I am actually rooting for an Atiku/Obi ticket in 2027

Initially I was rooting for Obi as President in 2027 but seeing how Nigeria election can be, especially how it can be under this Tinubu, I had to opt for Atiku first to clear the path way for Obi in 2031.

Even some of us that are diehard Obi fans, if Tinubu wins his re-election, the next time Obi or a Southerner can outrightly come out again for presidency will be in 2039

SeeWahala:
You are not an obidient, you're just masquerading here. Drop this your act at once

Even some of us that are diehard Obi fans, if Tinubu wins his re-election, the next time Obi or a Southerner can outrightly come out again for presidency will be in 2039

Oga use your head without blind emotions and sentiments

Like I told someone above....

"The problem here is Tinubu who will not hands off like GEJ. It's only the North that can face him physically even if Tinubu comes with security forces with guns. It's Only the North that have the heart and mind to fight. Truth be told, we South general na mouth we get. We don't have the fight/defend spirit the North have. That's why I said it will be wise we rally behind Atiku to win over Tinubu. After Atiku's 4 years Obi takes over as long as the agreement is signed by all ADC party stakeholders."

Chidibe212:
Initially I was rooting for Obi as President in 2027 but seeing how Nigeria election can be, especially how it can be under this Tinubu, I had to opt for Atiku first to clear the part way for Obi.

Even some of us that are diehard Obi fans, if Tinubu wins his re-election, the next time Obi or a Southerner can outrightly come out again for presidency will be in 2039

since you are talking about region, hope you know it won't be fair if south doesn't complete their 8 years just like in 2015

Felabrity:
since you are talking about region, hope you know it won't be fair if south doesn't complete their 8 years just like in 2015

The North is even "so called cheated" because of Yar'Adua's death. Check it. The South have ruled more than the North. Calculate it and see

However I am not talking about region, I AM TALKING ABOUT REMOVING TINUBU with this administration of Hardship

Tinubu's 2 years is worse than Buhari's 8 years

kmst:
Deh play Nigeria at large will still continue
Only SE will loose and by 2031 and 2035-2039 Nigeria would have gotten another PO from another region

You all should better support him now that pan Nigerians are happy with him
If you insist on him or no... your choice
It will be wise for SE to get along with this allignment with the north.
If you refuse this chance going forward, hmm chances will not be bright for SE
You can't live without working with other regions
Nigeria is big!
You negotiate with interest
Not deciding not to participate! That's childish

Which region has the highest poverty rate?
Which region has the highest illiteracy rate?
Who is going backward?

You can't even see the picture at all.

Chidibe212:
Who looses out completely?

We that are inconsequential and Dots..
We that are not even united..

Who does our minority (in numbers) boycotting help?

You are still using emotions.

Ask the north what they have benefitted with the presidents they have produced since 1960.

stuffs2002:
That would be good news to me as I will do everything in my power to ensure SE does not smell the presidential office

Better channel that energy to stop protest of ebinpawa in your village.

jmoore:
Ask the north what they have benefitted with the presidents they have produced since 1960.

Jmoore do you think they care "so much" about what they benefit? They just want to rule.

But truth be told, have you been to the North or any Northern states? Their infrastructures are so so great just that their rural parts are not like the southern parts that are modernized.

Come Awka or Enugu that I grew up (New Haven). Their villages are like town (Ugbo Okonkwo, Abakpa Nike,Obiagu). That can't be said about the Northern rural sides

Chidibe212:
The North is even "so called cheated" because of Yar'Adua's death. Check it. The South have ruled more than the North. Calculate it and see

as far as Elections are concerned, the north has won it 3 times
The south has won it 4 times

Election winners Since 1999:
South = South = North = South = North = North = South = North?

The north did not complete their tenure during Yaradua time to do unfortunate circumstances

Will it make sense if it goes back to north

You get what I am saying?

Chidibe212:
Jmoore do you think they care "so much" about what they benefit? They just want to rule.

Be truth be told, have you been to the North or any Northern states? Their infrastructures are so so great just that their rural parts are not like the southern parts that are modernized

Let them rule til forever. Headquarters of poverty is there.

You're talking nonsense. The coalition wasn't built by Atiku but collectives including Obi who has attended almost every meeting.

Above all, the most important work is the one being done by Obi in visiting the IDP camps, Nursing schools, Almajiris, building boreholes, why Atiku visit politicians.

Without Obi, the coalition is dead on arrival and you know it

stuffs2002:
OBIDIENTS always like to reap where they did not sow.


Obi did not contribute anything to the coalition and yet his OBIDIENTS want everything to be handed over to Obi on a platter of gold.
Atiku has been using his resources like money, influence and connections to pull other politicians to forma the coalition while Obi has been galivanting upandan contributing nothing yet his OBIDIENTS are attacking Atiku for daring to contest in the primary.

* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were spending money and renting venues and paying for logistics?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were traveling all over the country attracting other politicians to join the coalition?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were making efforts at INEC and forming the ADC?
* Where was Obi when Atiku and others were having sleepless nights organising meetings deep into the night just to ensure the coalition comes to fruition?


Peter Obi did not contribute anything to the emergence of the coalition only came in at the eleventh hour and his horde of OBIDIENTS are angry with Atiku just because they asked everyone to contest in the primary.

Chidibe212:
Even some of us that are diehard Obi fans, if Tinubu wins his re-election, [s] the next time Obi or a Southerner can outrightly come out again for presidency will be in 2039 . [/s]

Oga use your head without blind emotions and sentiments

Like I told someone above....

"The problem here is Tinubu who will not hands off like GEJ. It's only the North that can face him physically even if Tinubu comes with security forces with guns. It's Only the North that have the heart and mind to fight. Truth be told, we South general na mouth we get. We don't have the fight/defend spirit the North have. That's why I said it will be wise we rally behind Atiku to win over Tinubu. After Atiku's 4 years Obi takes over as long as the agreement is signed by all ADC party stakeholders."

Oga, it is not about Igbo or Yoruba or Hausa . . . Neither is it about north or south . . . IT IS SQUARELY ABOUT HAVING A BETTER GOVERNED COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA how can you say you are a so called 'die hard' obidient and lose knowledge of that particular fact I just penned above.

See, you have been deceiving yourself all along. You're not an obidient, maybe a you're in this for the tribal supremacy or as I opined all along you're simply a mikanolite Atiku PDP stooge

Felabrity:
as far as Elections are concerned, the north has won it 3 times
The south has won it 4 times

Election winners Since 1999:
South = South = North = South = North = North = South = North?

The north did not complete their tenure during Yaradua time to do unfortunate circumstances

Will it make sense if it goes back to north

You get what I am saying?

You said "As far as Election is Concerned" that's you trying to be inconsiderate in my own view. If by balancing the equation, it should go back to the North.

And if Obi doesn't do well in his First Tenure, I will clamour for his removal despite we are from the same state. We Igbos don't asslick that's why you hear "Igbo e nwe Eze"

SeeWahala:
Oga, it is not about Igbo or Yoruba or Hausa . . . Neither is it about north or south . . . IT IS SQUARELY ABOUT HAVING A BETTER GOVERNED COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA how can you say you are a so called 'die hard' obidient and lose knowledge of that particular fact I just penned above.

See, you have been deceiving yourself all along. You're not an obidient, maybe a you're in this for the tribal supremacy or as I opined all along you're simply a mikanolite Atiku PDP stooge

I hear you...Do you think we can get a better Nigeria of Obi with this Tinubu as an incumbent?

Atiku or any other good/strong "Northerner" can clear the path way for Obi's "Better Nigeria" under this Tinubu incumbency and that's what I have been penning all along.

Now which other strong or good Northerner that Nigeria have in front for 2027 the presidential sit other than Atiku(who isn't good compared to Obi)?

This is Nigeria, a country where the bad overshadows the good. A country that have majority of the bad than the good in political sphere.

Use your head than emotion. I want a better Nigeria, I want Obi's presidency but we can get it FROM TINUBU, we can get it from A Northerner and the only Northerner that is in front NOW is Atiku

Chidibe212:
I hear you...Do you think we can get a better Nigeria of Obi with this Tinubu as an incumbent?

Atiku or any other good/strong "Northerner" can clear the part way for Obi's "Better Nigeria" under this Tinubu incumbency and that's what I have been pending all along.

Now which other strong or good Northerner that Nigeria have in front for 2027 the presidential sit other than Atiku(who isn't good compared to Obi)?

This is Nigeria, a country where the bad overshadows the good. A country that have majority of the bad than the good in political sphere.

Use your head than emotion. I want a better Nigeria, I want Obi's presidency but we can get it FROM TINUBU, we can get it from A Northerner and the only Northerner that is in front NOW is Atiku

You still won't stop with this your masquerade act abi?

Okay, continue

You are still playing like I said

This is not about who is suffering most!
If you were locked inside a room with a madman who doesn't even understand he is mad
Will you challenge the mad man to start fire and see who gets hurt the most?

In as much as some good sections of Nigeria is enlightened there are other areas where people don't understand and can't even make the best decisions for themselves collectively.
This is an abberation quite all right but the fun fact is this qouta constitute quite a very large demography of the whole country.
This is what the political class has been capitalizing on for decades.
If you don't understand what structure is, this is the grassroot structure they talk about. The ability to confuse and convince this large section of the demography who often decide to sell votes or vote stupidly or otherwise maybe religion etc and another fun fact is you can't disenfranchise them!
Have you wondered why no governor looses LG elections to opposition in their states? The rulling party always clears it...why? structure of rigging
This is where the numbers to use in Rigging come from.

So will you as a normal person decide to sit back and let their decisions bind on you and the entire country at large? And for how long?
If you understand what I just stated then you will also understand why the wrong leaders have always been elected.

They hold the power right now but this opportunity presents for a startegic takeover by leaders who can reform electoral system to suit more enlightened voterbase through either Atiku or PO
I strongly believe any of them will reform inec no doubt

jmoore:
Which region has the highest poverty rate?
Which region has the highest illiteracy rate?
Who is going backward?

You can't even see the picture at all.