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SeeWahala:
You still won't stop with this your masquerade act abi?

Okay, continue

Leave my Masquerade act and see reasons to what I am talking about. If you aren't still seeing reasons it's your choice with your one vote.

I have my own choice with my one vote as well including my fellow Obidients that sees reasons to the analysis I have shared. Thanks

Chidibe212:
Leave my Masquerade act and see reasons to what I am talking about. If you aren't still seeing reasons it's your choice with your one vote.

I have my own choice with my one vote as well [s]including my fellow Obidients[/b] that sees reasons to the analysis I have shared. Thanks

You're not an obidient. You're just another political stooge on the loose looking for how to enthrone their tingod in aso rock

Keep on doing what you're doing. Everyone is watching

Well I'm not Igbo so I don't understand the last statement sha but that's okay
Maybe I can put it in Trump's words...
PO doesn't have the cards!
BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
He is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?
Can you explain?
Pls don't tell me Nigerians are tired of BAT cos suffer no deh tire Nigerians! Hunger can be there but you need something else like religion ethnicity to ginger Nigerians... just like some propaganda chiefs are shouting southern turn when in the end they will go to the south and give it to the person who had 8yrs OBJ and 8yrs Osinbanjo!

Chidibe212:
You said "As far as Election is Concerned" that's you trying to be inconsiderate in my own view. If by balancing the equation, it should go back to the North.

And if Obi doesn't do well in his First Tenure, I will clamour for his remove despite we are from the same state. We Igbos don't asslick that why you hear "Igbo e nwe Eze"

Chidibe212:
You said "As far as Election is Concerned" that's you trying to be inconsiderate in my own view. If by balancing the equation, it should go back to the North.

And if Obi doesn't do well in his First Tenure, I will clamour for his remove despite we are from the same state. We Igbos don't asslick that why you hear "Igbo e nwe Eze"

The zoning circle is every 8 years, which is a two tenure for every region, which is why you said earlier that the south will not have another opportunity again till 2039, meaning it will be a complete 8 years from 2031.

So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?


Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why.

kmst:
You are still playing like I said

This is not about who is suffering most!
If you were locked inside a room with a madman who doesn't even understand he is mad
Will you challenge the mad man to start fire and see who gets hurt the most?

In as much as some good sections of Nigeria is enlightened there are other areas where people don't understand and can't even make the best decisions for themselves collectively.
This is an abberation quite all right but the fun fact is this qouta constitute quite a very large demography of the whole country.
This is what the political class has been capitalizing on for decades.
If you don't understand what structure is, this is the grassroot structure they talk about. The ability to confuse and convince this large section of the demography who often decide to sell votes or vote stupidly or otherwise maybe religion etc and another fun fact is you can't disenfranchise them!
Have you wondered why no governor looses LG elections to opposition in their states? The rulling party always clears it...why? structure of rigging
This is where the numbers to use in Rigging come from.

So will you as a normal person decide to sit back and let their decisions bind on you and the entire country at large? And for how long?
If you understand what I just stated then you will also understand why the wrong leaders have always been elected.

They hold the power right now but this opportunity presents for a startegic takeover by leaders who can reform electoral system to suit more enlightened voterbase through either Atiku or PO
I strongly believe any of them will reform inec no doubt

No need for the sermon. It won't change anything.

The agreement was actually a 4yr term arrangement for every single 6 geo zone until Obj started his greed and started 8yrs.
This explains why uptill now Atiku has continued to contest cos his region hasn't had presidency same as SE and NC

Obj hijacked it
Yardua happened and arrangements now became survival of the fittest.
This one of 8yr north and 8yr south is just APC brainwashing cos they know how Nigerians behave with ethnicity.
If not what stops the champions of operation southern turn from zoning to SE? Have you wondered why?
People are quick to jump at Atiku cos of this propaganda.
Did wike support PO in pdp 2023? Why? Why not declare support to the fellow southerner who zoning most favored? Instead wike said on TV PO cannot win.
He still wanted to contest knowing fully well SS has gotten presidency already but who is always shouting southern turn? Same wike and APC
Why? To give to same region in the south that has gotten 8yrs presidency and 8yrs vice presidency!

Fgs I don't understand why a lot of people don't see the whole picture
It stinks of hypocrisy!

Felabrity:
The zoning circle is every 8 years, which is a two tenure for every region, which is why you said earlier that the south will not have another opportunity again till 2039, meaning it will be a complete 8 years from 2031.

So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?


Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why.

kmst:
Deh play Nigeria at large will still continue
Only SE will loose and by 2031 and 2035-2039 Nigeria would have gotten another PO from another region

You all should better support him now that pan Nigerians are happy with him
If you insist on him or no... your choice
It will be wise for SE to get along with this allignment with the north.
If you refuse this chance going forward, hmm chances will not be bright for SE
You can't live without working with other regions
Nigeria is big!
You negotiate with interest
Not deciding not to participate! That's childish

I wish @jmoore can see sense in what you just typed, I wish.

SouthEast on its own, we are very small when it comes to numbers compared to other regions

kmst:
The agreement was actually a 4yr term arrangement for every single 6 geo zone until Obj started his greed and started 8yrs.
This explains why uptill now Atiku has continued to contest cos his region hasn't had presidency same as SE and NC

Obj hijacked it
Yardua happened and arrangements now became survival of the fittest.
This one of 8yr north and 8yr south is just APC brainwashing cos they know how Nigerians behave with ethnicity.
If not what stops the champions of operation southern turn from zoning to SE? Have you wondered why?
People are quick to jump at Atiku cos of this propaganda.
Did wike support PO in pdp 2023? Why? Why not declare support to the fellow southerner who zoning most favored? Instead wike said on TV PO cannot win.
He still wanted to contest knowing fully well SS has gotten presidency already but who is always shouting southern turn? Same wike and APC
Why? To give to same region in the south that has gotten 8yrs presidency and 8yrs vice presidency!

Fgs I don't understand why a lot of people don't see the whole picture
It stinks of hypocrisy!

I am not a fan of the zoning policy, I only raised it up when the person I quoted said northerners outrightly deserves it or something.

Felabrity:
The zoning circle is every 8 years, which is a two tenure for every region, which is why you said earlier that the south will not have another opportunity again till 2039, meaning it will be a complete 8 years from 2031.

So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?


Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why.

So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?
I am not in particular about the South completing their 8 years. I am in particular about removing THIS TINUBU'S bad regime that have brought hardship across all tribes, regions and religions in Nigeria AND he will not do any better if he comes in Again in 2027. That man didn't say what he can do. He only said "It's My Turn" and we are seeing what his turn is doing. He has no plans. His policies are against the masses that are not as wealthy as the elites including politicians.

Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why. This is what I am talking about and I believe one of the reasons could be the ones I have been mentioning about. It's only a Northerner that can defeat this TINUBU and I have mentioned my reasons earlier

The fun fact is those numbers go a long way since they usually come as a "whole pack" and not pices like other regions produce.
This should be a political flex and advantage if used well to allign with other regions based on SE interest

By now SE leaders would have been doing alot to encourage more voter turn out over the years inorder to get more bargaining chip but what are they doing? Some of them are even contributing to more voter apathy in the region.
This will not go well in the future cos other regions won't come to deliver it at your doorstep and that's the truth.
This political class will not, you have to overwhelm them with something to gain anything.
And now that BAT has obviously started fire somewhere, there's an opportunity to exploit.
I hope SE handles it in the wisest way possible cos like me I'm from Benue, we need PO or at least someone better than BAT and PMB, it is tough in NC cos of mixed variation of interests so alot of people will actually want to see how SE handles this situation this time around.

You have to have cards to play the numbers game with them.

Chidibe212:
I wish @jmoore can see sense in what you just typed, I wish.

SouthEast on its own, we are very small when it comes to numbers compared to other regions

jmoore:
Which region has the highest poverty rate?
Which region has the highest illiteracy rate?
Who is going backward?

You can't even see the picture at all.

But when a Northerner is President (like they have been) they call the shots in the regions that are sophisticated including the South East. You are the one that isn't seeing the picture at all jmoore

Listen, even if Atiku looses in 2027 without Obi's backing with votes, he still has a stronger chance/opportunity in 2031 and another time Obi or a Southerner will have a chance again is in 2039.

It's only the North that can fight head on against this TINUBU and I have times without number explained why

It's a hard pill for alot of people even for me too to swallow cos I literally did Permanent Voter card 2023 just because of PO

But with the way BAT and wike are behaving like emperors, we don't need an oracle to tell us how 2027 will be.
Only the north can go head to head...it is a necessary evil
That's what I strongly believe too especially since they literally gave him 5/8m and they're now fighting...

The south will still consider Obi even as Vice, forget the online sentiments of Obi or nothing
Most will still vote the joint ticket
It was done 2019, grassroot won't have problem voting it again!
South won't vote BAT ticket but they plan on rigging thoroughly, still it is poised to be split once obi is on the ticket.

Chidibe212:
So, don't you think the south will want to support a Southerner in 2027 to complete the 8 years?
I am not in particular about the South completing their 8 years. I am in particular about removing THIS TINUBU'S bad regime that have brought hardship across all tribes, regions and religions in Nigeria AND he will not do any better if he comes in Again in 2027. That man didn't say what he can do. He only said "It's My Turn" and we are seeing what his turn is doing. He has no plans. His policies are against the masses that are not as wealthy as the elites including politicians.

Anyway zoning talks aside, I think Obi has more chance of getting into aso rock if Atiku wins in 2027, there are so many reasons why. This is what I am talking about and I believe one of the reasons could be the ones I have been mentioning about. It's only a Northerner that can defeat this TINUBU and I have mentioned my reasons earlier

kmst:
That's the strategy and it's a bold one
SW and SS can give BAT if they want no problem as far as SE delivers block and north does too, no shaking
Infact that won't be the first scenario, BAT can't even have block either from SS or SW(maybe 60%)
Highest SS and North central will split and he will need more numbers that no other region outside that will give him
BAT will be a toast
The numbers don't lie

Count NC out of where Atiku will get the votes from

Chidibe212:
But when a Northerner is President (like they have been) they call the shots in the regions that are sophisticated including the South East. You are the one that isn't seeing the picture at all jmoore

Listen, even if Atiku looses in 2027 without Obi's backing with votes, he still has a stronger chance/opportunity in 2031 and another time Obi or a Southerner will have a chance again is in 2039.

It's only the North that can fight head on against this TINUBU and I have times without number explained why

Calking the shots for wetin?

Save your breathe. I am not voting for Atiku.

Chidibe212:
Nigerians that Tinubu has impoverished both in the entire North, South South, South west and South East that wants APC and Tinubu out will sell very very well in this Election.

If Tinubu enters again, there's nothing good he will do again than to run this country down kpata kpata

Are you amongnst those Nigerians languishing in an abject poverty or you are only crying on their behalf?

kmst:
It's a hard pill for alot of people even for me too to swallow cos I literally did Permanent Voter card 2023 just because of PO

But with the way BAT and wike are behaving like emperors, we don't need an oracle to tell us how 2027 will be.
Only the north can go head to head...it is a necessary evil
That's what I strongly believe too especially since they literally gave him 5/8m and they're now fighting...

The south will still consider Obi even as Vice, forget the online sentiments of Obi or nothing
Most will still vote the joint ticket
It was done 2019, grassroot won't have problem voting it again!
South won't vote BAT ticket but they plan on rigging thoroughly, still it is poised to be split once obi is on the ticket.

Yeah you are really right from your analysis.
Obi's votes will split BATS own if Obi is on the ballot under a different party that isn't ADC but this TINUBU will rig it very well now he is an incumbent and Obi will loose. So the best option is a coalition and the most best option is to front a Northerner FIRST against this TINUBU. The only big weight Northerner NOW is Atiku. This is what I am trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions but they tagged me anti Obidient.

I will prefer Obi not having a joint ticket or deputize Atiku but he should back/support Atiku in 2027. Then in 2031 Obi can have his chance as long as there's an agreement with all parties in ADC stakeholds because without an agreement the North will renege on it in 2031.

Exactly but some of them are even anti north with their submissions as if they will borrow the needed million votes from Ghana!

PO cannot do it alone
If he could he would have started his party and not join the coalition
I believe he has seen it all
There's strong chance if at all PO will be flagbearer tambuwal may pair him but I still doubt if tambuwal can pull that needed weight

Chidibe212:
Yeah you are really right from your analysis.
Obi's votes will split BATS own if Obi is on the ballot under a different party that isn't ADC but this TINUBU will rig it very well now he is an incumbent and Obi will loose. So the best option is a coalition and the most best option is to front a Northerner FIRST against this TINUBU. The only big weight Northerner NOW is Atiku. This is what I am trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions but they tagged me anti Obidient.

I will prefer Obi not having a joint ticket or deputize Atiku but he should back/support Atiku in 2027. Then in 2031 Obi can have his chance as long as there's an agreement with all parties in ADC stakeholds because without an agreement the North will renege on it in 2031.

kmst:
Well I'm not Igbo so I don't understand the last statement sha but that's okay
Maybe I can put it in Trump's words...
PO doesn't have the cards!
BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
He is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?
Can you explain?
Pls don't tell me Nigerians are tired of BAT cos suffer no deh tire Nigerians! Hunger can be there but you need something else like religion ethnicity to ginger Nigerians... just like some propaganda chiefs are shouting southern turn when in the end they will go to the south and give it to the person who had 8yrs OBJ and 8yrs Osinbanjo!

BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
Obi is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?

You are entirely CORRECT!!! from the bolded above Including lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer of ADC

That's what I have been trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions. Obi cant be president with the bolded above.

BUT with Atiku or a strong Northerner Taking it from TINUBU, Obi can be President in 2031 as long as there's an agreement by ADC stakeholds to uphold Obi being President in 2031 after Atiku

We I'm from NC (Benue) precisely so if coalition brings Atiku no prob
PO even sweeter!
That's one vote, there are other million people too that would think that way.

helinues:
Count NC out of where Atiku will get the votes from

helinues:
Are you amongnst those Nigerians languishing in an abject poverty or you are only crying on their behalf?

To answer you really weak me

Helinues please get a life... PLEASE

You complain when people troll you but here you are doing the same thing to someone.

Get a life... Please

If that happens I trust PO
Nothing like unwritten o

It must be written in the stars!
Loud and clear

Chidibe212:
BAT is going to steal his cards in the SS
Obi is loved yes but Nigerian politics is dirty and not in the hands of the masses yet with Inec up there.
And we all know there is going to be lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer
So how will he be president?

You are entirely CORRECT!!! from the bolded above Including lackadaisical attitude in the north if PO is the flagbearer of ADC

That's what I have been trying to make my fellow Obidients see without emotions. Obi cant be president with the bolded above.

BUT with Atiku or a strong Northerner Taking it from TINUBU, Obi can be President in 2031 as long as there's an agreement by ADC stakeholds to uphold Obi being President in 2031 after Atiku

helinues:
Are you amongnst those Nigerians languishing in an abject poverty or you are only crying on their behalf?

Is this question really necessary my people?
This is to nairalanders and the guests the mentality of an average agbadorian.

DMerciful:
You're talking nonsense. The coalition wasn't built by Atiku but collectives including Obi who has attended almost every meeting.

Above all, the most important work is the one being done by Obi in visiting the IDP camps, Nursing schools, Almajiris, building boreholes, why Atiku visit politicians.

Without Obi, the coalition is dead on arrival and you know it

Una too dey lie....
That is why no one trust you people because no one trust a liar.


Here is David Hundeyin as late as 28th of June, 2025 blasting Peter Obi for not coming out to show his intensions about the coalition.

https://x.com/DavidHundeyin/status/1938972462181454181?t=HFLJ7NUAnYtOv299TCWuBw&s=19

Sp this is a confirmation that Obi wasnt attending meetings from the beginning?

You actually do not deserve a response[quote author=stuffs2002 post=136061105]Una too dey lie....
That is why no one trust you people because no one trust a liar.


Here is David Hundeyin as late as 28th of June, 2025 blasting Peter Obi for not coming out to show his intensions about the coalition.

https://x.com/DavidHundeyin/status/1938972462181454181?t=HFLJ7NUAnYtOv299TCWuBw&s=19[/quote]

DMerciful:
Sp this is a confirmation that Obi wasnt attending meetings from the beginning?

You actually do not deserve a response

How will I deserve a response after exposing your lies.

jmoore:
All these blackmail won't work. Southeast will not vote for Atiku.

In fact, if Obi doesn't win in 2027, SE will start boycotting future presidential elections..

You better start it now cos obi will never be president of Nigeria. Tinubu will contest under APC so also as Atiku under ADC. Obi is out of the equation. When some of us join Soludo to warn you people about nzogbu nzogbu politics, you rain all manners of insult. Reality is gradually dawning on you and other guys now. Even if you and some low guys shout Biafra, the leaders and big men from your region are not even interested in the so called Biafra republic. I will advise you to triple your hustle and make money. Chief priest even wore tinubu's trademark symbol cap to obi cubana's birthday when he knows vividly Peter obi would be. Nobody questioned him and you guys couldn't attack him. Keep wailing. Nothing for east for now in presidency until you people change your mindset.

Chidibe212:
Same thing I said earlier in one of my posts and I was tagged anti Obidient and not being igbo.

Let Atiku do his 4 years, reform INEC to make our votes count then Obi enters.

If it's ok for Obi to be deputy for Atiku it's still fine as long as the agreement is on paper and upheld that Atiku does only one term and hand over to Obi ( with the Northerners backing and also with people who wants to witness Obi's presidency). However it will be better another Southerner to deputize Atiku other than Obi in my own opinion o so that Atiku will have his own presidency and Obi will have his own presidency as well.

This is STRATEGY and NOT EMOTIONS

Even if Obi contest alone under LP, or even with the backing of Atiku under ADC, Obi will loose especially under this TINUBU.

And even if Atiku looses in 2027 without Obi's backing with votes, he still has a stronger chance/opportunity in 2031 and another time Obi or a Southerner will have a chance again is in 2039.

It's only the North that can fight head on against this TINUBU

Thanks OP you said the outright truth void of emotions most especially when you said ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig "cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer.
It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them)"

The North with their numbers and nerve will fight (even physically) for their own with this hunger as a weapon unlike the South particularly the eastern part

Infact let me tell you what will happen in 2027. Tinubu will loose but he will not agree to step aside like GEJ. They will be bloodshed and crisis which the North can easily champion alongside hungry southerners that wants Tinubu out. The military will come in and re-conduct a fresh election and Atiku will win afterwards.

you understand politics. Igbos should sit with Atiku and sign an agreement of after his presidency either four or eight years cos I know Atiku will definitely do if by chance he win in 2027, that power comes to south east with his backing. But allow a south south person to run with Atiku and you guys throw support. If Obi contest as vice presidential candidate to him and you people now think he will handover after four years, just know that the highest office you people will attain will be vice president cos Atiku will do complete eight years and we south south would not fold out hands why after eight years of vice presidency and power remains again in south east for another eight years. Don't compare south west opportunity now cos they were majorly in Southern Nigeria who embraced the formation of APC and we south south was the president then tru Jonathan.

AMINDA:
Okay, your Tinubu intends to use state apparatus to win re-election? I'm glad even his die-hard fans are coming to terms with the fact that he has no realistic pathway to victory. Tinubu and his state apparatus will be resisted across the entire North and in the East. He's free to rig the Southsouth. They appear docile but their numbers won't get Tinubu across.

you are ignorant. If the governors in south south who before the year end will all be APC members and decide to rig, then I assure you that tinubu will get nothing less than 10m votes from south south and that will out number the Atiku votes from the north. Pdp riggers and APC ones are now together. The vice presidential slot in 2031 is the major interest and follow by Atiku refusal to step down when matters in 2023. No governor will support Atiku in south south. Go and take that to the bank. He will also lose gallantly in the south west.

kedeojo:
You better start it now cos obi will never be president of Nigeria. Tinubu will contest under APC so also as Atiku under ADC. Obi is out of the equation. When some of us join Soludo to warn you people about nzogbu nzogbu politics, you rain all manners of insult. Reality is gradually dawning on you and other guys now. Even if you and some low guys shout Biafra, the leaders and big men from your region are not even interested in the so called Biafra republic. I will advise you to triple your hustle and make money. Chief priest even wore tinubu's trademark symbol cap to obi cubana's birthday when he knows vividly Peter obi would be. Nobody questioned him and you guys couldn't attack him. Keep wailing. Nothing for east for now in presidency until you people change your mindset.

After you wailing, you go enter market buy goods at same price with others.

So rest your babablu bulabu. Tinubu presidency no epp you. Na una still dey shout ebinpawa.

Chidibe212:
Like I told someone above....

"The problem here is Tinubu who will not hands off like GEJ. It's only the North that can face him physically even if Tinubu comes with security forces with guns. It's Only the North that have the heart and mind to fight. Truth be told, we South general na mouth we get. We don't have the fight/defend spirit the North have. That's why I said it will be wise we rally behind Atiku to win over Tinubu. After Atiku's 4 years Obi takes over as long as the agreement is signed by all ADC party stakeholders."

You are very naive if you think:

1) Atiku will only do 4 years. If he doesn't attempt a third term heist like Obj, I will log out of Nairaland for ever.

2) Atiku will hand over to Peter Obí. He will bring his own Southern lackey, ṣebi you saw the stunt that Bubu tried to pull on President Tinubu with Osibanjo despite the agreement.

Anyway, make we siddon dey look.

Atiku will be even too old to complete 8yrs
He himself will hand it over

I have no doubts no amount of propaganda will make sensible ones not to see the truth
Call a northerner that has been more Igbo friendly compared to Atiku over the years

Infact most times of betrayals in Nigerian politics has been committed by southerners who won't even think twice to Stab their brother at the back!


See what shettima said yesterday? If not for tambuwal and those that advised GEJ then, he would have been removed as governor.
How many minutes did it take for akpabio to put the final nail on fabura's head?
Look at Tinubu and GEJ?

Northerners have been known to keep their word on agreements!

aswani:
You are very naive if you think:

1) Atiku will only do 4 years. If he doesn't attempt a third term heist like Obj, I will log out of Nairaland for ever.

2) Atiku will hand over to Peter Obí. He will bring his own Southern lackey, ṣebi you saw the stunt that Bubu tried to pull on President Tinubu with Osibanjo despite the agreement.

Anyway, make we siddon dey look.