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Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:30pm On Jul 11, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
With all due respect, screenshots of what somebody said is bad evidence of Truth Clearly you have not heard of something called hearsay evidence.

Meanwhile we all have eyes and senses we use to perceive and see Truth
So then use your own commonsense. Between where you were born, to whom, circumstances and experiences of your growing up, the type of brain and personality you were given, where then is the space for freewill? Add to that, you don't know where your thoughts come from, and it has been SCIENTIFICALLY proven that your decision is already in your brain before you are consciously aware of having made a decision!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 12:37pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
NO!
It's about loyalty and from his attitude in the womb he is indecisive nothing evil other than God doesn't like indecisive people! James 4:8 smiley
Please pity me, don't make me have to deal with infantile talk.
Whose fault is a baby-in-the-womb's attitude - the baby or his maker?
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:14pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
So also "good" belongs to everyone who is good. But a certain kind of good only belongs to the Father
Says you not Jesus! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:15pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
I don't have to ask Jesus anything. As God he can see the heart of men. He could see what was in that man's heart and those standing around looking for a reason to arrest him.
Well he has answered for himself so from my end no addition no subtraction! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:21pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Please pity me, don't make me have to deal with infantile talk.
Whose fault is a baby-in-the-womb's attitude - the baby or his maker?
The baby's fault not it's maker!

Most people don't know the virtue that's in loyalty and decisiveness that is why God is telling indecisive people:

Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you INDECISIVE ones. James 4:8

Note that God is far away from indecisive people who can't take their stand firmly so that trait comes not from God but humans! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:27pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Says you not Jesus! smiley
Nope, says the statement. We all know many people are good and Jesus is the epitome of GOOD indeed!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:30pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Well he has answered for himself so from my end no addition no subtraction! smiley
He expects you to use spiritual discernment and your own God-given common sense!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:34pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The baby's fault not it's maker!

Most people don't know the virtue that's in loyalty and decisiveness that is why God is telling indecisive people:

Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you INDECISIVE ones. James 4:8

Note that God is far away from indecisive people who can't take their stand firmly so that trait comes not from God but humans! smiley
Please educate us how it is the unborn baby's fault.

(We are NOT discussing indecision here. You're throwing it in to confuse the issue)
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:43pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Nope, says the statement. We all know many people are good and Jesus is the epitome of GOOD indeed!
The highlighted is against Jesus' word so if you choose that as you own position i am no part of it! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:44pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
He expects you to use spiritual discernment and your own God-given common sense!
Use it against what he declared openly shey?
Thank you! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Gabrielshow24: 1:46pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I have many Bible students in my neighbourhood longing to see me knock on their door for a Bible study with me.

But that's audio because you can't see them here yet there is evidence on this very forum:


































Go and convince all these people that Max shouldn't be discussing God's word! smiley
I don't need to, your case is just like a man suffering from Personality disorders with nothing to show but words of friends and family saying otherwise!

As usual it doesn't solve anything, it just shows the person is under a grand delusion! With what is visible here on this platform no man needs to tell anyone that your words are of the flesh!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:46pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Please educate us how it is the unborn baby's fault.
(We are NOT discussing indecision here. You're throwing it in to confuse the issue)
I quoted God's word to show you what Esau later did that gave us an insight into what God foresee about him but you just want to claim that God is partial! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:46pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is against Jesus' word so if you choose that as you own position i am no part of it! smiley
Jesus does not expect you to be mumu. He expects that u have some common sense and sometimes actually use it!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:47pm On Jul 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
I don't need to, your case is just like a man suffering from Personality disorders with nothing to show but words of friends and family saying otherwise!

As usual it doesn't solve anything, it just shows the person is under a grand delusion! With what is visible here on this platform no man needs to tell anyone that your words are of the flesh!
Out of the mouth of many witnesses! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:48pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Jesus does not expect you to be mumu. He expects that u have some common sense and sometimes actually use it!
OK against his own position shey?

Thank you! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:50pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Use it against what he declared openly shey?
Thank you! cheesy
It is called discernment. Use it to discern not against. The expectation is that you are not totally mumu
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Gabrielshow24: 1:50pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Out of the mouth of many witnesses! smiley
Even in the bible we have record of people bearing false witness, it's not new. In this present world a lot of people bear false witness👀 that jagaban is working😂😂😂.

It doesn't change Cipolla's law! The truth doesn't need population appeal😁. The truth stands on it own! You seek to convince people based on word of mouth 😂, the same word of mouth by others will be used to dismiss your truth as falsehood. I can tell you there are thousands of comments that showcase your shortcomings, mentally! 😂😂😂—These are witnesses 😂😂😂
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:54pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
It is called discernment. Use it to discern not against. The expectation is that you are not totally mumu
I don't say a word against what my Lord, Master and King declared.

To whatever Jesus say i bow! smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:55pm On Jul 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Even in the bible we have record of people bearing false witness,
So it's your word against theirs nah! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 1:55pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I quoted God's word to show you what Esau later did that gave us an insight into what God foresee about him but you just want to claim that God is partial! cheesy
So now God can suddenly forsee things! I thought he couldn't forsee whether Abraham would kill his son.

The question is HOW and WHY is it Esau-in-the- womb's fault he is bad?
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Gabrielshow24: 1:59pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So it's your word against theirs nah! cheesy
Understanding in life they say is key. It seems you are lacking! Maybe you should read to properly understand before showcasing your puerile comprehension 😂.

There's nothing new😂 under the sun, many have borne witness to falsehood! Even a toddler will grab the theme of the message 😂!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op):
MaxInDHouse:
I don't say a word against what my Lord, Master and King declared.

To whatever Jesus say i bow! smiley
Yet you don't believe him when he said he and the Father are one, and that the Father is in him and he in the Father, and that once you've seen him you've seen the Father. Oh no, instead he's Angel Michael that he never mentioned!

I think I need others to help me ask you this.
Janosky, LordReed, DeepSight,
tctrills, Dtruthspeaker, Everyday247, Ruke1990, sonmvayina
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by Dtruthspeaker: 2:12pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
So then use your own commonsense. Between where you were born, to whom, circumstances and experiences of your growing up, the type of brain and personality you were given, where then is the space for freewill? Add to that, you don't know where your thoughts come from, and it has been SCIENTIFICALLY proven that your decision is already in your brain before you are consciously aware of having made a decision!
No need for repetition. Some posts back I already pointed out that you used your freewill to pick up your phone or device and to say exactly whatever you wanted to say. It is as simple as that and that is when this girl was caught for killing another person, no one here said "it is not her fault she did not mean it or she did not have the freewill to not kill".

https://www.nairaland.com/8471561/teenager-sentenced-life-imprisonment-over#136056785

So, you are talking like one who is filled with colozonia
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 2:13pm On Jul 11, 2025
Ruke1990:
If your girlfriend tears your university certificate now then you have no right to be mad at her because it was your destiny to have it torn. Not her fault, not her making. I do hope you adopt this attitude in real life when relating with people and never ever get angry or hurt for what wrong they do to you. Afterall, it's not their fault but yours. You are the one who came to life with such destinies

It was your destiny to be cheated on, to be stolen from, to be defrauded. It was never their fault. So you don't ever get to be angry with people or hurl at them for the bad destiny of yours which they had no power over

Bible says, the spirit and the bride says come. Let him that is WILLING come... Does that sound like predestined people should come?

Bible says, whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved. Does it take predestination on your part to simply call on the name of God right now?
That's the point - it's all part of the predestination. I'm predestined to get out of the bed in the morning. I'm NOT destined to stay in bed reasoning predestination will take care of everything.

Just reason it with your own commonsense. Between where you were born, to whom, circumstances and experiences of your growing up, the type of brain and personality you were given, where then is the space for freewill? Add to that, you don't know where your thoughts come from, and it has been SCIENTIFICALLY proven that your decision is already in your brain before you are consciously aware of having made a decision!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 2:22pm On Jul 11, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
No need for repetition. Some posts back I already pointed out that you used your freewill to pick up your phone or device and to say exactly whatever you wanted to say. It is as simple as that and that is when this girl was caught for killing another person, no one here said "it is not her fault she did not mean it or she did not have the freewill to not kill".

https://www.nairaland.com/8471561/teenager-sentenced-life-imprisonment-over#136056785

So, you are talking like one who is filled with colozonia
It's all part of the predestination!
Can't you see? I'm predestined to NOT stay in bed and expect that predestination will take care of everything!
A seer will see you picking up your phone and calling - and that's exactly what you'll end up doing. With free will there'd be no addictions and prophesies will not be possible!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:26pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
So now God can suddenly forsee things! I thought he couldn't forsee whether Abraham would kill his son. The question is HOW and WHY is it Esau-in-the- womb's fault he is bad?
God chooses loyal people as His friends but whether they will remain loyal to Him largely depends on their FREEWILL:

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

The highlighted shows God's friends do whatever they did out of their own FREEWILL! cheesy
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Jul 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Understanding in life they say is key. It seems you are lacking! Maybe you should read to properly understand before showcasing your puerile comprehension 😂.
There's nothing new😂 under the sun, many have borne witness to falsehood! Even a toddler will grab the theme of the message 😂!
You can continue crying for all i care people from different schools of thought have spoken:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.
Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇
DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much
shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯
Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down
smiley
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:29pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Yet you don't believe him when he said he and the Father are one, and that the Father is in him and he in the Father, and that once you've seen him you've seen the Father. Oh no, instead he's Angel Michael that he never mentioned!

I think I need others to help me ask you this.
I've told you what he meant by that you can convince me otherwise! wink
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 2:30pm On Jul 11, 2025
FreeIgboho:
Yet you don't believe him when he said he and the Father are one, and that the Father is in him and he in the Father
Stop this. Jesus himself explained what he meant by this.

John 17:11
"And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one."

John 17:21
"that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 17:22-23
"The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me."


If the foregoing explanations by Jesus himself of what he meant by "one" and "I am in the father and the father in me" - are not sufficient for you, then no wahala.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op): 2:32pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God chooses loyal people as His friends but whether they will remain loyal to Him largely depends on their FREEWILL:

“But my righteous one will live by reason of faith,” and “if he shrinks back, I have no pleasure in him.” Hebrews 10:38

The highlighted shows God's friends do whatever they did out of their own FREEWILL! cheesy
Yet he could foresee Esau in the womb but couldn't foresee grown-up Abram with established patterns. I begged you to spare me infantilism!
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by DeepSight(m): 2:32pm On Jul 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You can continue crying for all i care people from different schools of thought have spoken:
You have no idea how it makes you look each time you go to post quotes of people praising you. It comes across as very insecure, and desperate for validation. It is not a good thing at all. Grow beyond it please.
Re: Why Jesus Is DEFINITELY God * by FreeIgboho(op):
DeepSight:
Stop this. Jesus himself explained what he meant by this.

John 17:11
"And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one."

John 17:21
"that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me."

John 17:22-23
"The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me."


If the foregoing explanations by Jesus himself of what he meant by "one" and "I am in the father and the father in me" - are not sufficient for you, then no wahala.
Where does he say that he was lying when he said he and the Father were one and that seeing him was seeing the Father, and that he was actually Angel Michael just pulling our legs, he-he!
Point us to exactly where he said that
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