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sreamsense:
The op wants to make Obi becomes a liar again. Obi himself said that he will never deputize anybody for 2027 race, you want people to vote for a lar Obi if he accepts to be a deputy to Atiku, right? No political equation will ever balance against Tinubus as far as 2027 is concerned. Tinubus remains your president till 2031 by God's grace, how is that difficult for obidients to understand and rest instead of making noise up and down?

Do u think Tinubu will win if Atiku, Obi contest 2027 with him?
North has desserted him so do south, only the politicians who may not matter given the fact the Obi did alot in 2023 without any political office holder and was less popular than now.
Now Obi is more popular in the North and growing influence among the Southern voters. Atiku is not a fine deal among the northerners yet they can't stand the stench of Tinubu poor performance. Yes, they believe Tinubu will give them power after 4 yrs but they think they can't survive another 4 yrs in his hand ( in dilemma that only time will tell) So if PO can get good Vice (like kwankwaso, Tambuwa, EL Rufai ) from the north he will win the election even with Atiku contesting.
My concern is that Tambuwal may not agree, as he is Atiku's boy. ElRufai is cunning can't trust him, Kwankwaso is still hanging undecided but most relevant to PO should he accept to vice him

kedeojo:
you understand politics. Igbos should sit with Atiku and sign an agreement of after his presidency either four or eight years cos I know Atiku will definitely do if by chance he win in 2027, that power comes to south east with his backing. But allow a south south person to run with Atiku and you guys throw support. If Obi contest as vice presidential candidate to him and you people now think he will handover after four years, just know that the highest office you people will attain will be vice president cos Atiku will do complete eight years and we south south would not fold out hands why after eight years of vice presidency and power remains again in south east for another eight years. Don't compare south west opportunity now cos they were majorly in Southern Nigeria who embraced the formation of APC and we south south was the president then tru Jonathan.

You have a big point. In one of my posts on this same matter, I suggested Amaechi to deputize Atiku in 2027, then in 2031 El Rufai or any other good big weight Northerner will deputize Obi. It's a win win for all parties at the end.

Chidibe212:
Who looses out completely?

We that are inconsequential and Dots..
We that are not even united..

Who does our minority (in numbers) boycotting help?

You are still using emotions.

Thank God no b Yoruba man dey talk am

kmst:
Atiku will be even too old to complete 8yrs
He himself will hand it over

I have no doubts no amount of propaganda will make sensible ones not to see the truth
Call a northerner that has been more Igbo friendly compared to Atiku over the years

Infact most times of betrayals in Nigerian politics has been committed by southerners who won't even think twice to Stab their brother at the back!


See what shettima said yesterday? If not for tambuwal and those that advised GEJ then, he would have been removed as governor.
How many minutes did it take for akpabio to put the final nail on fabura's head?
Look at Tinubu and GEJ?

Northerners have been known to keep their word on agreements!

I wish I can give you a billion likes, hugs and kisses for the bolded. You are so on point.

However, l advise this agreement not to be just in words but to by signed by all ADC party stakeholders to hand power to Obi in 2031.

Also, Obi should not Deputize Atiku in 2027. Let Amaechi do that.

Then in 2031, El rufai or any other good heavy weight Northerner should Deputize Obi.

At the end it's a win win for all members.
Meanwhile, when ADC win, El rufai will definitely be given a ministerial or higher position in 2027.

This is my opinion o

kmst:
Atiku will be even too old to complete 8yrs
He himself will hand it over

I have no doubts no amount of propaganda will make sensible ones not to see the truth
Call a northerner that has been more Igbo friendly compared to Atiku over the years

Infact most times of betrayals in Nigerian politics has been committed by southerners who won't even think twice to Stab their brother at the back!


See what shettima said yesterday? If not for tambuwal and those that advised GEJ then, he would have been removed as governor.
How many minutes did it take for akpabio to put the final nail on fabura's head?
Look at Tinubu and GEJ?

Northerners have been known to keep their word on agreements!

OK ó, you are bigging Atiku up now, we don't want to hear stories that touch when he shows his true colours

Ikaeniyan0:
Thank God no b Yoruba man dey talk am

I am a lady

Nevertheless, that's the simple truth, the East doesn't have the numbers compared to other regions. That's the simple truth void of emotions or sentiments. Nigeria election is about NUMBERS. Even competence are not regarded in Nigeria elections.

wyt:
Do u think Tinubu will win if Atiku, Obi contest 2027 with him?
North has desserted him so do south, only the politicians who may not matter given the fact the Obi did alot in 2023 without any political office holder and was less popular than now.
Now Obi is more popular in the North and growing influence among the Southern voters. Atiku is not a fine deal among the northerners yet they can't stand the stench of Tinubu poor performance. Yes, they believe Tinubu will give them power after 4 yrs but they think they can't survive another 4 yrs in his hand ( in dilemma that only time will tell) So if PO can get good Vice (like kwankwaso, Tambuwa, EL Rufai ) from the north he will win the election even with Atiku contesting.
My concern is that Tambuwal may not agree, as he is Atiku's boy. ElRufai is cunning can't trust him, Kwankwaso is still hanging undecided but most relevant to PO should he accept to vice him

Tinubus will not only win, but he will give very wide margin to Obi and Atiku before 1pm on election day. Is it in your house that all northerners are holding meetings that made you knew he was rejected? Who are the northern leaders and governors holding meetings in your house that they rejected Tinubus, list their names here and let us see and weigh them?

You can keep deceiving yourself as much as you want, you did more than that in 2023, but ended in sorry status. Tinubus remains your president till 2031, if you like keep making noise and wasting your time online, times and elections in the past has shown you that election polling units are not on social media handles

Are you people fighting against Tinubu or fighting for a better Nigeria. You people are very vindictive and myopic, saying you choose Atiku over BAT is bad belle nothing else because Atiku is not better.

It is also a good strategy that will manage to keep some SS votes too
But my only fear is if PO will be able to maintain his political movement, momentum and national relevance outside the government until 2031

Chidibe212:
I wish I can give you a billion likes, hugs and kisses for the bolded. You are so on point.

However, l advise this agreement not to be just in words but to by signed by all ADC party stakeholders to hand power to Obi in 2031.

Also, Obi should not Deputize Atiku in 2027. Let Amaechi do that.

Then in 2031, El rufai or any other good heavy weight Northerner should Deputize Obi.

At the end it's a win win for all members.
Meanwhile, when ADC win, El rufai will definitely be given a ministerial or higher position in 2027.

This is my opinion o

dederocs:
Are you people fighting against Tinubu or fighting for a better Nigeria. You people are very vindictive and myopic, saying you choose Atiku over BAT is bad belle nothing else because Atiku is not better.

This is exactly why I still maintain that the op of this thread and the other one claiming to be an obidient are both masquerades. They are PDP mikanolite e-thugs trying to hoodwink the masses into making another deadly mistake again but their plan won't work.

Atiku-Obi is the way to go. The lesson we Nigerians should learn is that even if we make a mistake, we can always change it.

We made a mistake with Buhari and Tinubu. The mistake is not the end of Nigeria. We now want to try Atiku and Obi. If they mess up like the others, we will still sack them, and we shall continue sacking leaders until we get it right.

Don't mind agbado crew
E deh pain Dem say coalition deh get head!

doncartel:
Atiku-Obi is the way to go. The lesson we Nigerians should learn is that even if we make a mistake, we can always change it.

We made a mistake with Buhari and Tinubu. The mistake is not the end of Nigeria. We now want to try Atiku and Obi. If they mess up like the others, we will still sack them, and we shall continue sacking leaders until we get it right.

kmst:
It is also a good strategy that will manage to keep some SS votes too
But my only fear is if PO will be able to maintain his political movement, momentum and national relevance outside the government until 2031

How did Tinubu appear after Buhari and still won? Despite he wasn't saying much but he was still relevant. There was even a time he criticized Buhari's government.

However, Obi's relevance can not wear out leading to 2031 because of his kind personality. He will also criticize and offer solutions to Atiku's Presidency if it errs (I know Obi will definitely do that).

We especially me is so eager to witness Obi's presidency but we can get it in this 2027 because of this TINUBU and the INEC chairman he will nominate to replace Yakubu at the end of his tenure as INEC chairman.

INEC is not independent. Why should a President nominate A CANDIDATE at INEC that call themselves INDEPENDENT, that's too poor.

INEC chairman position should be contested like the way presidents and governors contest by bringing out competent and qualified CANDIDATES that can contest for the position.

It should not be by appointment or recommendation by anyone more so a President.

doncartel:
Atiku-Obi is the way to go. The lesson we Nigerians should learn is that even if we make a mistake, we can always change it.

We made a mistake with Buhari and Tinubu. The mistake is not the end of Nigeria. We now want to try Atiku and Obi. If they mess up like the others, we will still sack them, and we shall continue sacking leaders until we get it right.

You are so so on point!!!


@SeeWahala and @jmoore needs to read this void of emotions and sentiments or blind support.

STRATEGY and NUMBERS wins election in Nigeria until our Electoral system is completely changed for good. Still, NUMBERS will matter a lot even after the Electoral system is changed for good.

There's a News that ADC stakeholders including Obi, Atiku, Amaechi and El rufai are involved in an agreement.

That's what I have been clamouring for here. Let it be written, binded and signed by all ADC party stakeholder. Let it favour everybody involved especially Obi, Atiku, Amaechi and El rufai.

Chidibe212:
You are so so on point!!!


@SeeWahala and @jmoore needs to read this void of emotions and sentiments or blind support.

STRATEGY and NUMBERS wins election in Nigeria until our Electoral system is completely changed for good. Still, NUMBERS will matter a lot even after the Electoral system is changed for good.

Save your sermon. Millions of southeast voters will vote for Obi as presidential candidate or nothing. There's nothing you can do about it.

If majority are happy with tribulation of Tinubu, let them vote Tinubu again.

kmst:
This message is for those that care to consider non-emotional approach to 2027.
Has anyone noticed how BAT has used state apparatus to penetrate PO base in the SS?
BAT has cornered SS leaders already, they won't fight for obi even if APC wants to steal their votes for BAT and definitely online tweets won't be able to fight them. They will flood military and police (ofcos it only happens in the south all the time, and they get away with it)

SE is on their own as far as South and the equation is concerned right now.
There's no sugar coating it anymore for those who want the truth.
BAT will rather die than release presidency to someone from the SE!
He is not GEJ that let buhari take it without fighting back with state powers. Only a northerner can challenge that political power right now. Look around you, even the SE leaders are dinning with BAT just out of fear and intimidation because I don't want to believe it's money.

South-easterners will have to be pragmatic to swallow the bitter pill and allow OBi deputize Atiku
ATiku with backing of CPC bloc will flood the core north and those votes there will be hardest to rig cos they will fight for it unlike if it is OBi as the flagbearer.
It is simple no one fights for another man's right especially Nigerians. North will fight for what is their own! (Don't blame them)

Kenneth okwonko was also saying same thing.
In as much as Obi is a better personality and the best, Nigeria is not an ideal system for the best to compete at least not for now.
How many people make it through merit in Nigeria even outside the political arena? Talk less of the dirty politics Nigeria practices!
Think!

Some PO supporters like me won't mind, even the online warriors shouting Obi or nothing will bend with time before 2027.

The way some are thinking is that PO can make normal Nigerians really come out and vote for him but what they fail to digest is the fact that BAT and inec will not allow an ideal system for their votes to count for PO!
You need an old horse like Atiku on the ticket even if he is a necessary evil!

There are no two ways out for PO
APC is trying to deceive him to resigning from the coalition if he doesn't get the ticket, they are only massaging his ego to use that as a weapon.
PO doesn't have the grassroot political structure to curb and oppose rigging that happens in the rural areas and that's where the elections are won.
Enlightened Nigerians will vote in mass but in the end their votes won't count cos we will all go back to X to be shouting at inec when inec has already cooked in BAT (at 3am) already.

It happened in the last election, they called it glitch
They will do it again!
They have just done another one in Edo...

PO chance will be after 4yrs of Atiku,he needs to make sure they work together to get the right reforms in Inec before Atiku hands over, and he will win cos I know they will obviously do better than Tinubu and PMB so Nigerians will at large vote for him.
That is the only time a clean person like Obi (a son of no man ) can win a national election in Nigeria without the cabal.

It will not and cannot happen when BAT and INec is still functioning in this manner. They will split SS votes seriously... Rivers results last election will be child play in 2027 for the whole of SS
I'm not even going to consider anything from SW cos they will go all out to kill anyone for BAT in that region in 2027 no jokes.
Also Middle belt they will do everything to rig it for BAT.

The only person that can win right now is someone with an unbroken base which is why Atiku is doing so much to gather buhari's CPC from the north. Whatever crumbs fall from the table of the south will make coalition winner with this approach.

Boss mustapha has said the obvious but some emotional beings are arguing it out.
Once you have a strong northern candidate, an alliance with any part of the south be it SW or SS or SE will win you the elections.
Buhari failed always because neither SE nor SW or SS ever supported him with block votes in all those times.
He won in 2015 not necessarily because of SW,(Fgs how many votes does SW ever give to a presidential candidate historically? It shows in every other national elections)
If he(PMB) had gotten a strong alliance with any other southern region he would have gotten the needed votes to win.

If you combine block votes of SE and block votes of Northern block, added with crumbs from other regions, any other person is toast in the elections. It is simple arithmetic! Not emotions.
What the coalition should solidy on is the recent hate on BAT by the north they should work to make sure they really heat everything up there against BAT and it is done deal.

PO will be president, yes I believe so but whether it is now or never depends on his choice today with the coalition!

The prerequisite to be an obidients is to be an olodo. The average obidients cannot decipher what you have posted here. This is the same thing I and other like minded Nigerians were crying about since 2023, but the nzogbu nzogbu behaviour of the average obidients no dey allow them see front.

BAT was brought in by El rufai in the primary
He wasn't the choice of the northern cabals
He won because after the rigging, PO and ATiku still splitted votes too if not just like the election showed, he is the only president that had the lowest win percentage since our democracy. He won cos opposition splitted votes
And mind you buhari's inec did the election this time around Ogah is doing the election himself
He may even announce his son inec chairman

Chidibe212:
How did Tinubu appear after Buhari and still won? Despite he wasn't saying much but he was still relevant. There was even a time he criticized Buhari's government.

However, Obi's relevance can not wear out leading to 2031 because of his kind personality. He will also criticize and offer solutions to Atiku's Presidency if it errs (I know Obi will definitely do that).

We especially me is so eager to witness Obi's presidency but we can get it in this 2027 because of this TINUBU and the INEC chairman he will nominate to replace Yakubu at the end of his tenure as INEC chairman.

INEC is not independent. Why should a President nominate A CANDIDATE at INEC that call themselves INDEPENDENT, that's too poor.

INEC chairman position should be contested like the way presidents and governors contest by bringing out competent and qualified CANDIDATES that can contest for the position.

It should not be by appointment or recommendation by anyone more so a President.

Very apt. You said it all. I supported Obi in the last election. But as it is, Obi has no structure to prevent election manipulation at all levels. I agree with you to the extent that Atiku will not betray him after winning the election with the Obedient support. Even if Atiku spends two terms, Obi can still contest. But, should both of them go their separate ways and contest on different political platforms, it will give Tinubu the leeway to manipulate the process in his own favour.

SeeWahala:
No mind am. Na atiku mikanolite PDP bot be that 😏

No LeVeL

Where is the logic in what you are saying
None at all !!!
Cos even in 2023 Atiku got more SW votes than your Peter Obi
Common sense should tell you that Atiku/Obi ticket is the way to go
But emotions are driving you as usual, then you start singing your usual song of being marginalized, Are we the ones that told you not to use your brains when it comes to politics.
Use your head for once !!!

CorperKola:
Where is the logic in what you are saying
None at all !!!
Cos even in 2023 Atiku got more SW votes than your Peter Obi
Common sense should tell you that Atiku/Obi ticket is the way to go
But emotions are driving you as usual, then you start singing your usual song of being marginalized, Are we the ones that told you not to use your brains when it comes to politics.
Use your head for once !!!

What makes you feel obidients are in this because of politics? 🤔

Like, you feel obidients will pull another GEJ on the South and truncate their 8 year of governance only to install an atiku into aso rock over a Peter obi?

You are living in lalaland my brother. Try to wake up.

SeeWahala:
What makes you feel obidients are in this because of politics? 🤔

Like, you feel obidients will pull another GEJ on the South and truncate their 8 year of governance only to install an atiku into aso rock over a Peter obi?

You are living in lalaland my brother. Try to wake up.

So obidients are in this to chase a dream that can never come true abi
Or are they in tgis to create actual change in the country through idealism and the right amount of pragmatism.
Your arguments lack so much sense that it makes it so easy to see that you are an APC agent.
Southern Presidency
What has that done for me or anybody or the country

CorperKola:
So obidients are in this to chase a dream that can never come true abi
Or are they in tgis to create actual change in the country through idealism and the right amount of pragmatism.
Your arguments lack so much sense that it makes it so easy to see that you are an APC agent.
Southern Presidency
What has that done for me or anybody or the country

Oga, vote your Atiku in peace and leave we Obidients to vote our Peter Obi happily 🤗

E no be fight matter na

Chidibe212:
You are so so on point!!!


@SeeWahala and @jmoore needs to read this void of emotions and sentiments or blind support.

STRATEGY and NUMBERS wins election in Nigeria until our Electoral system is completely changed for good. Still, NUMBERS will matter a lot even after the Electoral system is changed for good.

Did you just say SeeWahala should read something void of emotions, very funny.

Persin wey him prick go don dey stand before he read any post finish wey nor tok say na Peter Obi go win for 2027, una go wait tìre

aswani:
Did you just say SeeWahala should read something void of emotions, very funny.

Persin wey him prick go don dey stand before he read any post finish wey nor tok say na Peter Obi go win for 2027, una go wait tìre

Hehehe 😂🤣

Verily - Verily I say unto thee, before the next 60 days are up your agbadoid urchinus nature will be laid bare for the entire forum to witness 🤗