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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Caicedobets(m): 4:51pm On Jul 12, 2025
airmark:
Tomorrow's match is not the one for wasteful attackers and lazy defenders and midfielders.
we need a 9 who can shoot with precision especially from outside the box and that's why it's important Pedro starts.
We can't afford to start Jackson tomorrow
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 5:07pm On Jul 12, 2025
Ibime:
So people dey actually read Theuniverse posts wey no get spacing, full stop or paragraph
I tire, people dy try ooo grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 5:17pm On Jul 12, 2025
Your thoughts?

Personally, I’ll start Santos in a three man midfield, then probably drop Neto. I don’t see the pivot of Caicedo and Enzo controlling the game against PSG’s midfield. They will be outnumbered and outplayed.

Neto has been impressive no doubt but sacrificing him to match Paris’ midfield will be Maresca’s biggest call.

Then an attack of Palmer Delap Pedro should cause problems.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:20pm On Jul 12, 2025
BlewMahn:
Chelsea view Jackson as a £100m striker.

He is not going anywhere
Anyone paying £100M for Jackson must be investigated for money laundering asap!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Trevor012(m): 5:21pm On Jul 12, 2025
Altern8tor:
At least I can see my team play and entertain me unlike ur dead team
Yes, your team will entertain you by getting trashed tomorrow grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:25pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Your thoughts?

Personally, I’ll start Santos in a three man midfield, then probably drop Neto. I don’t see the pivot of Caicedo and Enzo controlling the game against PSG’s midfield. They will be outnumbered and outplayed.

Neto has been impressive no doubt but sacrificing him to match Paris’ midfield will be Maresca’s biggest call.

Then an attack of Palmer Delap Pedro should cause problems.
Mendes right now. 😂😂😂

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 5:28pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Mendes right now. 😂😂😂
Can Palmer hold his own against him? Yes he can.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:32pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Can Palmer hold his own against him? Yes he can.
Palmer ghosting in big games and you want to put him with Nuno Mendes? Mendes will lock down Palmer. You know why? Palmer is not a good dribbler neither does he have the pace to outrun him… Mendes is a solid tackler with high tackling success rate even ahead of Cucu.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:35pm On Jul 12, 2025
Caicedobets:
we need a 9 who can shoot with precision especially from outside the box and that's why it's important Pedro starts.
We can't afford to start Jackson tomorrow
Egbon, why do you want your £100M baller benched ? Let him play so other clubs can see the goods and make offers. Abi how una wan sell am if him dey warm bench?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Silentgroper(m): 5:35pm On Jul 12, 2025
Gawd!!



I wish this match was today ...

Can the league start already.


Pesin weekend just dey boring anyhow..


😐😐😐😐
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 5:36pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Your thoughts?

Personally, I’ll start Santos in a three man midfield, then probably drop Neto. I don’t see the pivot of Caicedo and Enzo controlling the game against PSG’s midfield. They will be outnumbered and outplayed.

Neto has been impressive no doubt but sacrificing him to match Paris’ midfield will be Maresca’s biggest call.

Then an attack of Palmer Delap Pedro should cause problems.
is this team going to win PSG or just control the game?

I don't see maresca not starting neto in this cwc final tbh. Even if palmer is to play wings in other to accommodate santos in midfield Pedro can play 9 and neto wings, our goal is to win not control the game, a number 9 can come in later
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:37pm On Jul 12, 2025
Ibime:
So people dey actually read Theuniverse posts wey no get spacing, full stop or paragraph
Ah swear!

I dey scroll past that guy post...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:38pm On Jul 12, 2025
Keep him busy.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 5:41pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Palmer ghosting in big games and you want to put him with Nuno Mendes? Mendes will lock down Palmer. You know why? Palmer is not a good dribbler neither does he have the pace to outrun him… Mendes is a solid tackler with high tackling success rate even ahead of Cucu.
don't know how you classify a good dribbler but it would be a mistake for mendes to man make palmer if he is at the right with gusto playing RB. Palmer doesn't need to get past him, he just needs to take him off position and create pass behind him for the overlap. If maresca assigns palmer to occupy a couple of players that gives room for others as well, palmer doesn't need to do a madueke and cross into empty space
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:44pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Palmer ghosting in big games and you want to put him with Nuno Mendes? Mendes will lock down Palmer. You know why? Palmer is not a good dribbler neither does he have the pace to outrun him… Mendes is a solid tackler with high tackling success rate even ahead of Cucu.
That's why I want him in the hole. Starting Palmer against Mendes is a suicide, no smart manager will embark on.

Maresca don see wahala. grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 5:49pm On Jul 12, 2025
Enzo5:
is this team going to win PSG or just control the game?

I don't see maresca not starting neto in this cwc final tbh. Even if palmer is to play wings in other to accommodate santos in midfield Pedro can play 9 and neto wings, our goal is to win not control the game, a number 9 can come in later
Games are won and lost in the midfield. The idea of starting Santos is to try as much as possible to accommodate the triumvirate of Ruiz, Vitinha and Neves while hitting them on the break.

A pivot of Caicedo and Enzo can’t achieve that. They’ll be outplayed.

The last time Santos faced a PSG’s midfield, he delivered a panda shift. He can help Caicedo with those rough jobs.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:50pm On Jul 12, 2025
Enzo5:
don't know how you classify a good dribbler but it would be a mistake for mendes to man make palmer if he is at the right with gusto playing RB. Palmer doesn't need to get past him, he just needs to take him off position and create pass behind him for the overlap. If maresca assigns palmer to occupy a couple of players that gives room for others as well, palmer doesn't need to do a madueke and cross into empty space
No wahala baba but the reality be say Palmer won’t be able to contain Mendes either. If anything, Mendes will drag him out of position or force errors. Palmer might not need to beat him 1v1 but Mendes is smart and aggressive enough to cut off those angles or press him into mistakes. It’s not just about occupying players, it’s about who can dominate their space.
And I think Mendes wins that battle.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 5:57pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Games are won and lost in the midfield. The idea of starting Santos is to try as much as possible to accommodate the triumvirate of Ruiz, Vitinha and Neves while hitting them on the break.

A pivot of Caicedo and Enzo can’t achieve that. They’ll be outplayed.

The last time Santos faced a PSG’s midfield, he delivered a panda shift. He can help Caicedo with those rough jobs.
Baba, games aren’t always won in midfield especially not with a team like PSG. Their system doesn’t rely heavily on dominating the middle; they exploit width, pace and quick transitions. PSG go steadily bypass midfield congestion entirely and still hurt teams.

Starting Santos just to battle in midfield might not be necessary when the real threat is coming from wide areas. You can’t outfight them in midfield when they’re not trying to win it there they’re trying to skip it. Dem go leave midfield for you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 5:59pm On Jul 12, 2025
airmark:
That's why I want him in the hole. Starting Palmer against Mendes is a suicide, no smart manager will embark on.

Maresca don see wahala. grin
olise did not die why is it now suicide, not that I want palmer at rw but there's tactics on which palmer starts at rw but that means neto wouldn't start or play lw and that gusto would start which are all no for me, it's not like psg is easier in the middle.

Chelsea should just use their usual line up and own half possession tactics that would limit counter attacks, and use players that can handle pressure and also deliver long balls to the flanks, something bayern used a number of times against psg

sanchez, james, tosin, colwill, cucurella, caicedo, enzo, palmer, neto, jackson, pedro

not sure delap would handle the pressing and pressure from psg, he stumbled against brazilian clubs and lost possession a number of times he can come in as a sub
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 6:00pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Baba, games aren’t always won in midfield especially not with a team like PSG. Their system doesn’t rely heavily on dominating the middle; they exploit width, pace and quick transitions. PSG go steadily bypass midfield congestion entirely and still hurt teams.

Starting Santos just to battle in midfield might not be necessary when the real threat is coming from wide areas. You can’t outfight them in midfield when they’re not trying to win it there they’re trying to skip it. Dem go leave midfield for you.
And it’s not suicidal enough to have just Enzo and Caicedo for those tracking runs and counters?

I wouldn’t buy that either. Unless you have decided to welcome an onslaught.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kimbeast: 6:02pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Games are won and lost in the midfield. The idea of starting Santos is to try as much as possible to accommodate the triumvirate of Ruiz, Vitinha and Neves while hitting them on the break.

A pivot of Caicedo and Enzo can’t achieve that. They’ll be outplayed.

The last time Santos faced a PSG’s midfield, he delivered a panda shift. He can help Caicedo with those rough jobs .
That was against Psg b team. Infact only one of their main 11 started that game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 6:07pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
And it’s not suicidal enough to have just Enzo and Caicedo for those tracking runs and counters?

I wouldn’t buy that either. Unless you have decided to welcome an onslaught.
Their danger isn’t about outnumbering you in the middle,it’s the speed, unpredictability and movement from wide areas and quick transitions. You can plug the midfield all you want but once Dembele and others gets isolated or finds space behind the fullbacks, it’s game over… You should be more worrued about your CBs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kimbeast: 6:10pm On Jul 12, 2025
Silentgroper:
Gawd!!



I wish this match was today ...

Can the league start already.


Pesin weekend just dey boring anyhow..


😐😐😐😐
Women Euros and Afcon are currently ongoing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:10pm On Jul 12, 2025
Enzo5:
olise did not die why is it now suicide, not that I want palmer at rw but there's tactics on which palmer starts at rw but that means neto wouldn't start or play lw and that gusto would start which are all no for me, it's not like psg is easier in the middle.

Chelsea should just use their usual line up and own half possession tactics that would limit counter attacks, and use players that can handle pressure and also deliver long balls to the flanks, something bayern used a number of times against psg

sanchez, james, tosin, colwill, cucurella, caicedo, enzo, palmer, neto, jackson, pedro

not sure delap would handle the pressing and pressure from psg, he stumbled against brazilian clubs and lost possession a number of times he can come in as a sub
Palmer is not as daring in the flanks as Olise and against Mendes he will be largely unanimous. We need fast wingers to catch them on a break.

Jackson will be frustrated and Maresca will be foolish starting him in a match we will have limited chances and can't afford to play with 10 men.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Joezinho: 6:14pm On Jul 12, 2025
airmark:
Palmer is not as daring in the flanks as Olise and against Mendes he will be largely unanimous. We need fast wingers to catch them on a break.

Jackson will be frustrated and Maresca will be foolish starting him in a match we will have limited chances and can't afford to play with 10 men.
Palmer won’t offer that direct/daring threat on the flank like Olise. Against someone like Mendes, he’ll get neutralized quickly. 2 seconds “otilo”.. This is the kind of match that demands raw pace on the wings to hit PSG on the counter. Without that, Jackson will be completely isolated and if Maresca still starts Palmer out wide, it’ll be a tactical mistake.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 6:21pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Their danger isn’t about outnumbering you in the middle,it’s the speed, unpredictability and movement from wide areas and quick transitions. You can plug the midfield all you want but once Dembele and others gets isolated or finds space behind the fullbacks, it’s game over… You should be more worrued about your CBs.
For this I’ll still need a three man midfield.

The general idea is to stay compact. A quick transition won’t happen if you’re pressing well enough, rejecting space and forcing pressure, and for this, you’ll still need numbers in the midfield.

Vitinha, Ruiz and Neves are the men at the center of this orchestration, leaving them to enjoy their game is the MAJOR reason you’ll be destroyed.

Dembele and co makes those timed runs into space knowing fully well those guys will pick them out with key passes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:22pm On Jul 12, 2025
Joezinho:
Palmer won’t offer that direct/daring threat on the flank like Olise. Against someone like Mendes, he’ll get neutralized quickly. 2 seconds “otilo”.. This is the kind of match that demands raw pace on the wings to hit PSG on the counter. Without that, Jackson will be completely isolated and if Maresca still starts Palmer out wide, it’ll be a tactical mistake.
I remember one of the goals Aston Villa scored them where Rashford swiftly dribbled like two players in a tight space to assist the goal. Also the goal Botafogo scored them, swift pass to striker on the run and May day.

Neto and JP must start and Jackson must not, if we don't want our hearts in our mouths.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Enzo5: 6:23pm On Jul 12, 2025
Griffon:
Games are won and lost in the midfield. The idea of starting Santos is to try as much as possible to accommodate the triumvirate of Ruiz, Vitinha and Neves while hitting them on the break.

A pivot of Caicedo and Enzo can’t achieve that. They’ll be outplayed.

The last time Santos faced a PSG’s midfield, he delivered a panda shift. He can help Caicedo with those rough jobs.
a psg midfield that has only joao neves out of the main three starting, with nothing for psg to lose

you don't beat people at their own strength you play them according to your own strength

psg are faster right, then outrun them? will that happen over night, look inter had a full three combative midfielders didn't psg by pass them unlike barca and pedri that pass through them to yamal and co.

What you should be saying is chelsea should not use a tactics that makes cucurella overlap a lot, meaning cucurella shifts into midfield alongside caicedo, the usually 5 man pyramidal and wall, then palmer and enzo the double 8 press from the front and receive passes. not starting palmer in midfield may cost us the game, palmer should preferably have a free role, they have been playing together already to understand each other, bringing in santos and expecting a lavia liverpool miracle may not work, we can bring in santos and even essugo later on, but we need to score as usual in that first half. And that means we need high technical forwards who can receive passes from midfield and lay it off or receive a cross from deep and not lose it. neto can hold that rw on his own, palmer may not, expect you don't want palmer to start.

I can understand a situation where kvara takes on James and caicedo also tries to help and there's space in the middle and palmer and enzo have to support the space that opens up because of vitinha and dembele. Well that's why maresca should not risk using a high line lol. Offside traps can fail. Don't be too focused on their midfield and lose track of the threats players like kvara or hakimi and doue can cause on the flanks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 6:26pm On Jul 12, 2025
Enzo5:
a psg midfield that has only joao neves out of the main three starting, with nothing for psg to lose

you don't beat people at their own strength you play them according to your own strength

psg are faster right, then outrun them? will that happen over night, look inter had a full three combative midfielders didn't psg by pass them unlike barca and pedri that pass through them to yamal and co.

What you should be saying is chelsea should not use a tactics that makes cucurella overlap a lot, meaning cucurella shifts into midfield alongside caicedo, the usually 5 man pyramidal and wall, then palmer and enzo the double 8 press from the front and receive passes. not starting palmer in midfield may cost us the game, palmer should preferably have a free role, they have been playing together already to understand each other, bringing in santos and expecting a lavia liverpool miracle may not work, we can bring in santos and even essugo later on, but we need to score as usual in that first half. And that means we need high technical forwards who can receive passes from midfield and lay it off or receive a cross from deep and not lose it. neto can hold that rw on his own, palmer may not, expect you don't want palmer to start.

I can understand a situation where kvara takes on James and caicedo also tries to help and there's space in the middle and palmer and enzo have to support the space that opens up because of vitinha and dembele. Well that's why maresca should not risk using a high line lol. Offside traps can fail. Don't be too focused on their midfield and lose track of the threats players like kvara or hakimi and doue can cause on the flanks
Cucu and James have no business overlapping tomorrow.

We need our defenders staying close together, and rejecting space between them.

It’s going to be a tough one for us in all.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:29pm On Jul 12, 2025
Kimbeast:
That was against Psg b team. Infact only one of their main 11 started that game.
You beat me to this that's why when analysing, context matters alot. PSG didn't need that game. As for Santos, I like his style. If the coach decides to play him, I'll be happy.

In fact, whichever way sha. In the voice of Scolari when he was here--"We have to win" grin
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