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fineboynl:
North cannot remove tinubu with northern candidate

Even atiku cannot clear the north.

This is a fact.

If the north support Obi . Obi can get half votes from the north and clear key states in the south.

which north will give obi half other thier votes. Same north he tell Christian to take back the country from cos they are mostly Muslim. Dey play.

This guy is so delusional.

ajailer:
Why does PO wants leadership to be served to him a la carte, who does that? Let him go to the primaries and test his popularity. The opportunity he had in LP ain't happening here.

Even if it's zoned to the south, does he think he can defeat Amaechi?
It's easier for the north to support Amaechi than support PO.

you got it. The north will easily support Ameachi than obi who they have view as a tribal and religious bigot.

stuffs2002:
Obi claims to be very popular yet is scared of party primaries.

cos obi's followers are organic he doesn't need to pay $30k to any delegate

fineboynl:
North cannot remove tinubu with northern candidate

Even atiku cannot clear the north.

This is a fact.

If the north support Obi . Obi can get half votes from the north and clear key states in the south.

A clear fact

To the best of my knowledge, Tinubu has not emphatically taken one position and come out again to emphatically deny it as the guy you are supporting has done on more than one occassion.

ottersberger:
You question Peter Obi’s integrity while openly supporting Ahmed Tinubu, a figure whose track record is widely regarded as questionable, yet you support and portray him as a paragon of virtue. One must ask: have you truly reflected on the contradictions in your own position?.

That said, it is important to reassert a basic truth: it remains the South's turn to lead, and we cannot relinquish that justified claim. And this is not a new sentiment, even Tinubu, your preferred candidate once declared "Èmi l’ókàn" in Abeokuta, a clear assertion of entitlement.

Now, consider this: Atiku Abubakar’s pursuit of personal political ambition is the reason the PDP is weakened, reducing it to a faint shadow of the formidable party it once was. Should he continue on this path, especially in light of the potential realignment following the death of former President Buhari, his influence will likely wane further. The vacuum created presents a strategic opportunity for his former CPC caucus within the APC to reconfigure the political landscape.

In this emerging reality, Nasir El-Rufai is positioned as the de facto political leader of the North. With Buhari’s exit, El-Rufai stands to inherit a significant portion of the former president’s support base.

A Peter Obi–Nasir El-Rufai presidential ticket would present a formidable coalition, one capable of defeating Ahmed Tinubu decisively, perhaps even before midday on election day.

The problem with Obi is he's always having a s3nse of entitlement. Like Tinubu said, u work for power. Power is never given.
Datti his then vice still echoed this when he said that u will need to spend money...I mean real money especially to lobby d3legates during primaries.
But Obi want it to be given to him and daddy Atiku is not from d same school of thought. I'll advice obi to take decision in time because as it stands, LP is no longer under his control. ADC is not for him. APGA may be his only fall back and Solido will show him shege banzai. PDP is no go area.
Obi is political orphan

stuffs2002:
Obi claims to be very popular yet is scared of party primaries.

Where and when did he tell you this?

Eriokanmi:
I don't want to say much on this. Mind you, amaechi is codedly working for obi. The south must do 8 years. Atiku is a modaru human being and a super greedy fellow who pretends to love Nigeria.

Either tinubu is defeated in 2027 by obi with the help of the north or tinubu continues. Thats my stand right now. But obi will win. The south and middle belt is in the bag, any one I doubt can argue later

On what basis will Amaechi be working for Obi? Politically, Amaechi is bigger than Obi, having climbed every political strata spanning 24 uninterrupted political life.

Mynd44:
Isn't this what Wike said in 2022?

Then again, can Peter Obi defeat Amaechi in a presidential Primary?

the south must do 8 years

Ttalk:
On what basis will Amaechi be working for Obi? Politically, Amaechi is bigger than Obi, having climbed every political strata spanning 24 uninterrupted political life.

It's a whisper. Argue later not now

stuffs2002:
Obi claims to be very popular yet is scared of party primaries.

cos most primaries are done by vote buying which he is not good with.

9jatriot:
Finally Obi don de talk small truth.

This will be his first demand, if for one magical reason this is granted, then he will make the second demand, that it should be micro zoned to his region.

If he had been using this line all along, even though I still will not support him because of his abysmal performance as governor of Anambra, at least I will be less critical. It is his forming of 'cent obi' that really annoys all sensible people.

Now back to his request. If the North agrees to cede it to the South, then the issue of trust will come up, now for a character like Obi with highly suspect integrity issues, you can be sure he will deny ever agreeing to one term. That is for sure.

In terms of friendship, Amaechi is a better friend of the North than Obi, his 'Yes, daddy, take back the nation from the North' tape will resurface when the time comes, and his new friends will remind him that he is not a sellable product in the North. Amaechi on the other hand will yet reap the benefits of having sited projects in the North.

only igbos will argue with your honest submission. The north will definitely choose Ameachi to be the presidential candidate of ADC if Atiku step down. The north don't joke with religion and obi can't be sellable over there. Ameachi knows he might be favour and that is why he quickly denounce his igbo heritage. If he get the ticket, he will just bribe ohananze president and others and they will endorsed him cos they don't joke with money.

9jatriot:
To the best of my knowledge, Tinubu has not emphatically taken one position and come out again to emphatically deny it as the guy you are supporting has done on more than one occassion.

We challenge Ahmed Tinubu to have a live sit down interview with Seun Okinbaloye on Channels TV or Charles Aniagolu on Arise TV.

Omooba77:
https://dailytrust.com/why-adc-should-zone-2027-presidential-ticket-to-south-obi/

This Obi is silly.

He will let Tinubu win again. His decision making is poor and I blame Atimu for giving him National relevance.

Be patient. Do VP, he is headstrong.

The ADC/Coalition thing was Atikus idea. Now that it has come to fruition, you want the presidential ticket. Go and get it in Labour Party na.


No wahala.

whatmoreng:
GEJ, Atiku and Atiku

We don't have any strong alternative now. Atiku or we will end up with Tinubu again

..you are part of the problem... what don't you understand that Atiku cannot contest in 2027..?

..you are part of those creating problems all över the geographical expression..how can you vote for Atiku..who as a Northerner just finished 8yrs. ?

..nobody cares if the kingpin sna:;"tches:"; & gra:;"bes:;"; again..

..we shall all be here to face the Consequence..



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This is ADC/coalition affairs to determine where the presidential candidates will come from. APC as a party is different from other parties. APC may zone it ticket to the south while ADC may throws it party tickets open for the best candidates to emerge

Kdon2:
This one never hear wetin Dem dey talk... No zoning of presidency to anywhere. Atiku dictates what goes in the party. You will contest in the primary with atiku. ☹️

You wan make Obi run away.

Ok assuming that the ticket os Zoned to the south.
He will still have Ameachi to contend with.
Them no dey hear we no dey give shi shi for ADC. Lol

9jatriot:
Finally Obi don de talk small truth.

This will be his first demand, if for one magical reason this is granted, then he will make the second demand, that it should be micro zoned to his region.

If he had been using this line all along, even though I still will not support him because of his abysmal performance as governor of Anambra, at least I will be less critical. It is his forming of 'cent obi' that really annoys all sensible people.

Now back to his request. If the North agrees to cede it to the South, then the issue of trust will come up, now for a character like Obi with highly suspect integrity issues, you can be sure he will deny ever agreeing to one term. That is for sure.

In terms of friendship, Amaechi is a better friend of the North than Obi, his 'Yes, daddy, take back the nation from the North' tape will resurface when the time comes, and his new friends will remind him that he is not a sellable product in the North. Amaechi on the other hand will yet reap the benefits of having sited projects in the North.

only igbos will argue with your honest submission. The north will definitely choose Ameachi to be the presidential candidate of ADC if Atiku step down. The north don't joke with religion and obi can't be sellable over there. Ameachi knows he might be favour and that is why he quickly denounce his igbo heritage. If he get the ticket, he will just bribe ohananze president and others and they will endorsed him cos they don't joke with money. Ameachi performed so well has governor and I will rate him as the best governor since 1999 in rivers state. He didnt publicize his achievement like how Wike pays heavily to tv stations. He is not tribalistic and religious fanatics too. I don't mind if he become president. I withness failed Odili tenure and the first term of Ameachi. When some of us question Obi's religious bigot campaign but his people were busy attacking everyone but today, reality is coming out gradually. Ameachi might just be lucky if the north are united against Tinubu. Obi is out of the equation.

ottersberger:
You question Peter Obi’s integrity while openly supporting Ahmed Tinubu, a figure whose track record is widely regarded as questionable, yet you support and portray him as a paragon of virtue. One must ask: have you truly reflected on the contradictions in your own position?.

That said, it is important to reassert a basic truth: it remains the South's turn to lead, and we cannot relinquish that justified claim. And this is not a new sentiment, even Tinubu, your preferred candidate once declared "Èmi l’ókàn" in Abeokuta, a clear assertion of entitlement.

Now, consider this: Atiku Abubakar’s pursuit of personal political ambition is the reason the PDP is weakened, reducing it to a faint shadow of the formidable party it once was. Should he continue on this path, especially in light of the potential realignment following the death of former President Buhari, his influence will likely wane further. The vacuum created presents a strategic opportunity for his former CPC caucus within the APC to reconfigure the political landscape.

In this emerging reality, Nasir El-Rufai is by the nature of things positioned as the de facto political leader of the North. With Buhari’s exit, El-Rufai stands to inherit a significant portion of the former president’s support base.

A Peter Obi–Nasir El-Rufai presidential ticket would present a formidable coalition, one capable of defeating Ahmed Tinubu decisively, perhaps even before midday on election day.

The middle belt and the North think otherwise. Southern Kaduna will never forgive El Rufai just like the North will not forgive Peter Obi for his infamous 'yes daddy's soundtrack

Mallam Nasir El-rufai is the new leader in the North.

El rufai is from the CPC extraction, has been visibly around Buhari even before 2015 and is more radical in his more conservative about Islam which is the dominant religion in the core North.

Atiku on the other can't control the charisma of Buhari as he was seen more as a Puritain and influenced major projects in the North during his PTF days.

ogascomax:
In life everyone has his or her own opinion but I am only surprised that you guys are naive about what Tinubu plan is concerning Southern votes. Obi can only win Eastern votes. Obi will fail woefully in the South. You think those governors are defeating for nothing.
Atiku cannot clear the North is a big joke. Atiku is now the political leader of the North after the death of Buhari. Know that and have peace.

Mynd44:
Isn't this what Wike said in 2022?

Then again, can Peter Obi defeat Amaechi in a presidential Primary?

Yes, because of simple reasoning. While some will go for money bags, I believe most will give room for reasoning. It's not like they challenging a simple person, so the wisdom there is to go with the most reasonable person to win. Atiku's number in the south will drastically reduce so his entire vote will come from the north. He will get the numbers but he should remember that it will be suppressed numbers cos some of his opponents will also bite into that share he is depending on. Ameachi is eyeing it and might contest but now is not the time to be testing waters. He should have done that with the last election cycle. So it is not smart for the party to invest in testing waters. They need people with track record. Only Atiku and Obi has proven to have the numbers. The good news is he still age and time to build the momentum so he can relax and do that. He should let those that started the journey earlier go for it and pave way for him cos he cannot win Tinubu in the forthcoming elections. He will only divide the votes more cos Atiku and/or Obi will still run independently when push comes to shove.

Analytically, the smart thing would be for ADC to present the two big numbers, Atiku and Obi as President and Vice but the both are already Presidential materials already and succumbing to be vice of each other can be a problem. So here is my proposal for those that are close to them and talk to them for consideration. ADC's biggest potential is still Peter Obi, he has the numbers, the regional positioning is in his favor being a southerner to complete the Southern tenure, and he has promised to do one term and pass it back to the North. He has the integrity to keep that word. So the smart thing for ADC to do is speak with Atiku and assure him of full support for 2031 and seek a northerner to be Obi's vice. A good candidate would be Datti Ahmed again, or better still, El rufai even though he can be controversial but I dont think he is someone Obi cannot work with. If anything, it would instill big anti corruption crusade in the heart of civil service cos if Obi is not stealing, El rufai would respect that and emulate and the message will resonate deep and hard cos they can't run to any Minister for saving cos they themselves wouldn't want to take that risk . So that way, there is balance and mission would be very achievable. The key is Obi is leading cos he has the largest chance.
Then, Atiku should focus on his health and build up to 2031. Then, he would have earned his right. He can then proclaim his emilokan and it will be reasonable to ears and he would get the support. He should now pair with Ameachi who would also be ready. They can then show to the world what they have to offer.

This is a good model because it's a win win for the coalition, the participants, and stakeholders and by that, Nigerians. The political dynamics would be changed and people would be service oriented.

My two cents though

Eriokanmi:
I dodn't want to say much on this. Mind you, amaechi is codedly working for obi. The south must do 8 years. Atiku is a modaru human being and a super greedy fellow who pretends to love Nigeria.

Either tinubu is defeated in 2027 by obi with the help of the north or tinubu continues. Thats my stand right now. But obi will win. The south and middle belt is in the bag, any one I doubt can argue later

Ameachi can never work for obi cos he too has ambition. If the contest of primary is between obi and Ameachi, then Ameachi will fly the flag of ADC. Most of the ADC are the people he knows in pdp and APC. Obi is out of the equation. It is either Atiku or Ameachi if Atiku decide to step down. The north won't support a known tribalist and religious bigot. ADC are planning for unity peace pact that will see others supporting the eventual winners. Obi can't defeat Atiku and Ameachi in a primary. He knows that and that is why he is looking for free ticket and he won't see it.

So since you know that it's the turn of the South why don't you allow the Southerner there to finish his tenure?
This Obi is funny gan. Is this the strategy he wants to use and win the presidential ticket?

Omooba77:
https://dailytrust.com/why-adc-should-zone-2027-presidential-ticket-to-south-obi/

This man is so unsportsmanly! In his mind, the coalition is being set up for him. His supporters have been clamouring for the ticket to be given to him on a Plata of gold! In sports, you win or loose. His own is just win win win. If you believe it's the turn of southerners to rule, why join the coalition without preconditions? You joined, now you want conditions!

Hemanwel:
Even though I am 100% Obidient,...

Let me use this opportunity to advise Mr Peter Obi and fellow Obidients like me as we approach the 2027 elections.

To Obidients: Let's stop this naive radical approach of supporting our man, Peter Obi. Let's drop this idea of "Obi is qualified to be President or is a presidential material; hence, he can't be deputy to anybody", "2027 is Peter Obi or nothing", " Obidient Movement is bigger than Peter Obi", etc. Politics doesn't work that way!

Remember, despite late President Buhari's cult-like followership in the north, coupled with his virtue of integrity, he still had to align with the 'powers that be' before he could become the president, after three failed attempts. We all know that Peter Obi won the last general elections but was rigged out. This is what will continue to happen, unless he forms a coalition with other political heavyweights. He certainly cannot do it all by himself. This is Nigeria. Our democratic ideals hasn't gotten there yet.

Again, in 2013, when the APC was formed, the current president, Tinubu, temporarily shelved his ambition for late Buhari (someone he knew could get the northern bloc votes) to pave the way for his turn - which he is enjoying today. If he had insisted on contesting the 2015 elections, he probably would have lost, and might not have been president today

Let's also remember that Peter Obi is the leader of the Obidient Movement, therefore, we - as followers - are to follow him to wherever he goes. We are to listen to him. We are not to decide for him. He is the politician and he sure knows what's good for him. If being in the coalition party and deputizing Atiku is the platform/vehicle in which he could achieve his ambition of becoming president someday, so be it!

To Peter Obi: I will advice that you learn from late President Buhari for his decision to align with the 'powers that be' in 2013. Learn from Tinubu who temporarily had to sacrifice his ambition for Buhari.

I believe the Atiku/Obi ticket is the only ticket that can remove Tinubu in 2027. It's also the same ticket that can make Obi realize his ambition of becoming president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

I totally agree with you. Tinubu even sacrificed his vice presidential slot to Osinbajo, they has to break the news carefully to him back then cuz he wanted that VP slot at least.

Okoroawusa:
So since you know that it's the turn of the South why don't you allow the Southerner there to finish his tenure?
This Obi is funny gan. Is this the strategy he wants to use and win the presidential ticket?

Did Tinubu allow Jonathan finish? Hypocrites.

Gerrard59:
So why does Obi want to dodge a primary? Did Tinubu not go through a primary in APC? He wants it handed over to him and that's not fair to other formidable candidates. Let him test his popularity within the coalition.

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Anyway, the coalition wasn't going to work in the first place. Coalition that has 80% former APC members. What's the difference between six and half a dozen?

.it's because peter obi does not have the financial power . dollars like Atiku have to bribe the delegates to vote for him during the primaries.. Atiku has the dollars to bribe the delegates to vote for him during the primaries and win the primaries as Atiku did it in PDP against wike in 2022 PDP primaries.. Atiku is very wealthy than peter obi.. peter obi does not have the dollars to compete with Atiku in primaries election.. primary election in Nigeria is all about money and dollars to bribe the delegates