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DiamondsAreFore:
https://www.thecable.ng/the-best-is-yet-to-come-cameroons-92-year-old-paul-biya-seeks-eighth-term/

Best is yet to come? Which kind mad man be this, na to kukuma die for office na

owobokiri:
It is the same in everything. I once pointed out to someone here that to all intent and purposes, Britain is still a monarchy. I mean if Britain was situated in Africa, her political system with the unelected King/Queen/House of Lords abilities to overrule the verdict of elected Parliament, she would be considered as being undemocratic and retrogressive... Come and see as a fellow Nigerian was busy defending the British monarchy as vintage democracy.

While the excerpt of your comment is unclear, I want to debunk something. The king/queen of England is a ceremonial leader. Therefore, the decision of the queen/king cannot override that of the parliament. Let's stop making assumptions and please let's not mislead the public with what we share online.

Gaabasky:
One of the things that can never happen to us. We are too aggressive for someone to be a live President

What is your Jagaban.
Is he not a maxim leader.
Must authoritarianism sit on your head before you see it.

Who is in charge of the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary...

As a test is there ANYTHING ordered by this restaurant patron that has not been delivered.... orders, laws, bills, judgements, ways and means, programs, projects, etc.

Have you given it a thought as to the real difference between the powers that Biya of Cameroun or Museveni of Uganda has and your leader here in Nigeria....and what this unchecked, unbridled but growing powers can lead to...

Democracy remains an exercise of eternal vigilance, vigilance to ensure the cage of the tiger remains underlock and key.

Unfortunately while most citizens slept this country has drifted into exactly what is happening across the eastern border.

braveboi4life:
Tomorow when he passes on and people begin to celebrate his death,.some people will.start preaching ...how do you explain a man whom has ruled for more than 40years without meaningful impact yet wants to.continue and die on the throwwn

they will say the west painted him to be a bad person. He is africa's hero like idi Amin

He is not the problem.............
those supporting him is that problem .....

This one too na always medical treatment abroad after over 40 year ruling he can't build a standard hospital for his people. It's a shame

owobokiri:
Most of them are brainwashed by Western propaganda. They see themselves as inferiors. Very incapable of any sort of independent thinking..
You made a valid point, but watch him argue and argue and argue.

It is the same in everything. I once pointed out to someone here that to all intent and purposes, Britain is still a monarchy. I mean if Britain was situated in Africa, her political system with the unelected King/Queen/House of Lords abilities to overrule the verdict of elected Parliament, she would be considered as being undemocratic and retrogressive... Come and see as a fellow Nigerian was busy defending the British monarchy as vintage democracy.

I pointed out to a Nigerian here that most Chinese construction companies in Nigeria are government owned and are highly profitable ventures for China. He wouldn't listen. As far as he is concerned, government ownership of companies is bad. America has said it so it must be! But is there any Chinese bank that is as profitable and efficient as The Bank of China?

They will tell you that "the worst democracy is better than the best military rule".., what unreserched outburst. Which democratic government in this country has been good to Nigerians and effective in developing the country as the military regimes in say Libya, Egypt, Spain, South Korea, Brazil or even Burkina Faso here?

You seems not get the point. Let me summarily remind you.
Can you compare those countries you mentioned in any facet of life to Africa countries

If Nigerians or any African countries are like those places you quoted, no body will care who governs them too. This is a common sense bro!.

Even as poor as Nigeria is, many still don't care who rule them that Is why they don't vote. Now, imagine this country is like Britain or Russia you mentioned.

Are Cameroonians like Nigerians - silence in the presence of misrule by politicians?

sleek214:
Why are you guys quick to shout Africa? What of Putin of Russia, the guy from North Korea

Lol, they are just as bad too. North Korea is a virtual family run dictatorship where the leader is also a God. Biya is awful, but he does not demand Cameroonians worship him

But this thread is not about them.

owobokiri:
Most of them are brainwashed by Western propaganda. They see themselves as inferiors. Very incapable of any sort of independent thinking..
You made a valid point, but watch him argue and argue and argue.

It is the same in everything. I once pointed out to someone here that to all intent and purposes, Britain is still a monarchy. I mean if Britain was situated in Africa, her political system with the unelected King/Queen/House of Lords abilities to overrule the verdict of elected Parliament, she would be considered as being undemocratic and retrogressive... Come and see as a fellow Nigerian was busy defending the British monarchy as vintage democracy.

I pointed out to a Nigerian here that most Chinese construction companies in Nigeria are government owned and are highly profitable ventures for China. He wouldn't listen. As far as he is concerned, government ownership of companies is bad. America has said it so it must be! But is there any Chinese bank that is as profitable and efficient as The Bank of China?

They will tell you that "the worst democracy is better than the best military rule".., what unreserched outburst. Which democratic government in this country has been good to Nigerians and effective in developing the country as the military regimes in say Libya, Egypt, Spain, South Korea, Brazil or even Burkina Faso here?

Is Britain working?
Are Africans japaing to Britain or not?

Does their monarchy system impede institutional growth?

Cameroon, Nigeria are all democratic Republics, but our democracy is not understood by civil tones.

Why are you guys quick to shout Africa? What of Putin of Russia, the guy from North Korea

Can you compare the infrastructural development and economic growth 💹📈 of North Korea/Russia with that of Cameroon or other African countries?

Can you see in pictures even thou you've not traveled to those countries?

You guy's should stop this nonsense of supporting Africa when they're not doing the right thing, what has Cameroon gain under this man's rule in all the years he's on that sit

This is what you call delusion pro max. When he finally leaves, Cameroon will descend into chaos due to power vacuum and struggle. Nigeria should be ready then to receive refugees.

After ruling for 40+ years without bringing any meaningful development to your country, you are still claiming that the best is yet to come??
At 92 years??
No be witchcraft be that??

franugo:
Best is yet to come? Which kind mad man be this, na to kukuma die for office na

Funny but here in Cameroon he is sometimes refered to as Kukuma. After eight years of stalemate fighting in the English speaking parts of Cameroon, between seperatists and the Biya government, most Cameroonians have learned a thing or two about the pains of war.

Consequently there is a lack of zeal for an uprising amongst the common man. With elections fixed for October most people are hopeful Biya will be beaten through the ballot box. Unfortunately the opposition is equally lacking in glamour. No candidate has been able to sell a manifesto akin to what we witnessed in Senegal a few years ago..

Biya comes from a family where the average person dies at 102, we are definitely on a long ride .....

braveboi4life:
Tomorow when he passes on and people begin to celebrate his death,.some people will.start preaching ...how do you explain a man whom has ruled for more than 40years without meaningful impact yet wants to.continue and die on the throwwn

Then why don't the people take him out now instead of waiting till he dies to 'celebrate'? Isn't that cowardice?

I will keep saying it till I die: people deserve the type of leaders they get. Europeans fought and still fight to get the type of leaders and governments they want, because they know they deserve much better.

Africans wait timidly, sometimes even praise the leader loudly when he is alive, only to turn around and celebrate when he dies.

hisgrace090:
He speaks as the west rejoice over the cameronians suffering.
O Africa who have bewitched you to this point?

Anything that put Africa lower on its knees is a welcome development to the West. France na dem do this one. The truth is that all these nonsense is aided by their military.

This man wants to govern until he dies in office. What can a 92 year old offer his country?

Can a 92 yo manage your company? If no, then why should he run a whole country? Indeed Cameroun has a bigger issue. Old rotten men running Africa to the ground to impress their western masters. Shame!

DiamondsAreFore:
https://www.thecable.ng/the-best-is-yet-to-come-cameroons-92-year-old-paul-biya-seeks-eighth-term/

He will not win.
If for more than 4o years he has been in power, then there's nothing else he can offer.
At 92 he should be playing with his Grand children and praying for a peaceful departure. This old people holding many countries to Ransome

As docile as Nigerians are, i doubt very much that this can happen in Nigeria. When more than 100 candidates are waiting to chop their own, only you come dey their for 40+yrs dey chop alone! Tufia!

Na this thing france and west want for Africa, old puppet wey Thier brains don warnout holding on to power so that they can be controlling them like kids. Smh

SmartPolician:
While the excerpt of your comment is unclear, I want to debunk something. The king/queen of England is a ceremonial leader. Therefore, the decision of the queen/king cannot override that of the parliament. Let's stop making assumptions and please let's not mislead the public with what we share online.

You don't know what you are talking about. Go and read the laws of Britain. The House of Lords is CONSTITUTIONALLY obliged to overrule The House of Commons.. Stop dabbling into issues you know next to nothing about..

Whether the unelected House of Lords" overrules the lower House all the time, or the two meet in private to avoid such collision is irrelevant here. We are talking of what is constitutionally guaranteed under a supposed democratic environment.

Some of you are just strong headed for nothing. Imagine someone asking me whether England is working or not?! So because England is working, her UNDEMOCRATIC pandering to a worn out monarchy and some unelected LORDS should be excused? Is that how it works?

So lets stretch that argument a bit further; Is China not working? Why are Nigerians always talking down on China as an undemocratic country, when in the last 30 years or thereabout, China has managed to pull a population close to that of the whole Europe out of poverty?

So if Chinas "dictatorship" is working for the Chinese, why should I bother with the western styled democracy in Nigeria that is primarily responsible for Nigerias unraveling
Should we not be copying what works

braveboi4life:
Tomorow when he passes on and people begin to celebrate his death,.some people will.start preaching ...how do you explain a man whom has ruled for more than 40years without meaningful impact yet wants to.continue and die on the throwwn

You're right! Am not against any Leader: whether a democratically elected, or not; what the world needs, is good Leaders! Think of how Gaddafi governed his country well.

Reference:
So what is the problem in Africa or Nigeria.
Where democrats seek to act as kings.
Where State owned companies have turned to personal estates of whosoever is in government.
Where military dictators are themselves lightning rods for counter coups.

The common denominator is the people. It is the people that are not able to feather the state of their corporate existence, are not able to come together to chart a corporate future.

The people, the people are responsible for whatever situation they face because no one man can elevate himself into power then entrench himself perpetually without the direct support of one half of a populace and the ambivalence of the other half.

Much of Africa just does not have qualitative populations in specific demographic areas. We just cannot see beyond aged cultural boundaries and in more recent times religious fault lines. Lines which these one eyed men exploit to retain power in perpetuity.

You are right and wrong at the same time.
Right, because there is a clear evidence of the fact that the quality of voters we have over here, leaves nothing to be desired..
Wrong, because you insisted that this reality should be blamed on the people.
I will explain..

You can't blame a people who have done all they can to elevate the quality of the politics played in their land for the shortcomings of their shortsighted political elites. Why? It takes two to tango. It has always been the duty of those in government to skill the people optimally to achieve specific political and economic goals.

If deu to ethnic, religious or sectional competitions, countries in Africa struggle to grow politically and ecomically, then the discuss should be on how to reengineer some of these fundamental realities that inhibit national growth in order to achieve societal goals. Mutual discussions and negotiations should be held with all sections of the country. This you can do through such channels like "The Sovereign National Conference" and "Constitutional Reviews"

But even those remedial channels can be hyjacked and imperilled by a desperate political class. This often happens when "divide and rule" as institutionalised by the colonial powers, has gone far in pitching one segment of the country against the other. The responsibility to find solutions then should be that of the political class and not necessarily that of the followership. Followers Will always follow a good leader and a good cause..

Bottom line is that our problem in African politics has a lot to do with the ethnic make-ups of most African countries. Base politics draws a lot of inspirations from ethnic and religious emotions. It is not necessarily an African issue. India, Pakistan, Malaysia were all victims of the same problem.., just that the political elites over there managed that better by going for further divisions to allign with these base ideological bends. Being able to organise African states around groups of ethnic and religious groups willing to live together, can sort out upto 50% of these problems..

What a pity. What best can come from 92 years old man this time around.
He couldn't do better when he was younger. Someone who cannot stand on his feet anymore.
Africa is a joke.