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I saw a very interesting comment on one of the threads in this forum where the commenter laughed at the coalition over Buhari’s death. According to the person, the coalition drivers will no longer be able to use Buhari.

It got me pondering on whose loss the death of Buhari truly is?

We can say arguably that Buhari’s posturing before the 2023 elections suggested that he didn’t want Tinubu to succeed him. But no one can deny the fact that Buhari has demonstrated unflinching support for Tinubu since INEC announced him.

More than once, in the heat of the biting effects of some of Tinubu’s policies, Buhari has issued statements in support of Tinubu.

When northern oligarchs, who would later become arrowheads of coalition, made Buhari’s Daura home a Mecca of sort, he issued a statement reasserting his loyalty and support to APC and Tinubu’s administration.

Now, knowing the moral force and support Buhari still commands in the north, I don’t need to tell any serious political watcher the weight those statements carried each time Buhari issued them.

Furthermore, there’s no denying that if Buhari was to still be here in 2027, he would still support Tinubu for re-election. No matter how bad his(Buhari) popularity has waned, we know the weight such endorsement would have carried for Tinubu.

Now, to coalition, I am still struggling to find how Buhari would have been of any use to the coalition as I don’t think he would have ever come out to openly support the coalition even if he’s remotely sympathetic to their course.

Hence my question, whose loss is Buhari’s death truly is?

Penguin2:
I saw a very interesting comment on one of the threads in this forum where the commenter laughed at the coalition over Buhari’s death. According to the person, the coalition drivers will no longer be able to use Buhari.

It got me pondering on whose loss the death of Buhari truly is?

We can say arguably that Buhari’s posturing before the 2023 elections suggested that he didn’t want Tinubu to succeed him. But no one can deny the fact that Buhari has demonstrated unflinching support for Tinubu since INEC announced him.

More than once, in the heat of the biting effects of some of Tinubu’s policies, Buhari has issued statements in support of Tinubu.

When northern oligarchs, who would later become arrowheads of coalition, made Buhari’s Daura home a Mecca of sort, he issued a statement reasserting his loyalty and support to APC and Tinubu’s administration.

Now, knowing the moral force and support Buhari still commands in the north, I don’t need to tell any serious political watcher the weight those statements carried each time Buhari issued them.

Furthermore, there’s no denying that if Buhari was to still be here in 2027, he would still support Tinubu for re-election. No matter how bad his(Buhari) popularity has waned, we know the weight such endorsement would have carried for Tinubu.

Now, to coalition, I am still struggling to find how Buhari would have been of any use to the coalition as I don’t think he would have ever come out to openly support the coalition even if he’s remotely sympathetic to their course.

Hence my question, whose loss is Buhari’s death truly is?

No one. Just like 2023, northern votes will be divided

"12M Vote" gone!

The Incumbent needs to realign with the New power block in the North.

PG/POL 501 1st semester (20 Unit)

It is too early to say!

When the presidential flag bearer from the coalition is known, only then one can predict.


Fingers crossed for now.

Akpakomiza2:
No one. Just like 2023, northern votes will be divided

Divided between who and who?

Tinubu should pray Obi gets the ADC ticket. Because if Atiku gets it, then it’s a clean sweep of the entire north.

And even if Obi gets it, Tinubu will still struggle in the north except Atiku, Elrufai, et al, are not sincere about their support.

Akpakomiza2:
No one. Just like 2023, northern votes will be divided

Perfect response.

Buhari's true followers will definitely give allegiance to the man who has given him a befitting burial. The man who Buhari told the Katsina State Governor that he is a "BRAVE" man. A man of capacity, capability, intellect and vision.

Penguin2:
Divided between who and who?

Tinubu should pray Obi gets the ADC ticket. Because if Atiku gets it, then it’s a clean sweep of the entire north.

And even if Obi gets it, Tinubu will still struggle in the north except Atiku, Elrufai, et al, are not sincere about their support.

I want ATIKU to get the ticket.

It will real battle if Obi agree to deputy.

Igbos and Northern alliance is always hard nut. 1979 Shagari/ Ekwueme reloaded

Buhari's death is Tinubu's loss and that is the fact.

The truth of the matter is,those Buhari inner circle who find it hard to openly support Atiku will do now that Buhari is no more. Maybe they know Buhari is about leaving when they annonced their so called coaliation.

Did you see Atiku,El rufai and Tambuwal being hailed today in Daura? And Tinubu didnt get the same reception even when he was there.

There goes your answer. 2027 is the oppostion to lose of they put their house in order. And even as an Obident,the only ticket that can beat Tinubu is an Atiku/Obi ticket because Obi alone CANNOT beat Tinubu. It is the combination of both that can beat Tinubu

What is Sarki up to. Hmmmmm........by the time he makes this a big deal and the people of the North buy into it like wild fire. Make I no talk too much. 😁😁😁😁

Penguin2:
Divided between who and who?

Tinubu should pray Obi gets the ADC ticket. Because if Atiku gets it, then it’s a clean sweep of the entire north.

And even if Obi gets it, Tinubu will still struggle in the north except Atiku, Elrufai, et al, are not sincere about their support.

Divided between Tinubu, Atiku and any northerner PDP fields and kwankwaso if he contests. Oga, I thought by now you should know that Atiku can never sweep the north. 2023 answered all your questions. A northerner that loses the north to a southerner is useless sir. Atiku can win the north but never convincingly. He doesn't have the traits, capacity, popularity, personnel or machinery to do it. This is not something we should be arguing about sir.
Tinubu will always massacre obi in the north sir. Obi cannot even win NC, is it core north he can do well? Atiku and El rufai can deliver themselves, how will they deliver obi?
2027 is a free for all and Tinubu has the advantage whether you accept it or not

happney65:
Buhari's death is Tinubu's loss and that is the fact.

The truth of the matter is,those Buhari inner circle who find it hard to openly support Atiku will do now that Buhari is no more. Maybe they know Buhari is about leaving when they annonced their so called coaliation.

Did you see Atiku,El rufai and Tambuwal being hailed today in Daura? And Tinubu didnt get the same reception even when he was there.

There goes your answer. 2027 is the oppostion to lose of they put their house in order. And even as an Obident,the only ticket that can beat Tinubu is an Atiku/Obi ticket because Obi alone CANNOT beat Tinubu. It is the combination of both that can beat Tinubu

Atiku, El rufai and Tambuwal have always been hailed yet they struggle to deliver especially the latter so rest.
In 2023, buhari body language clearly showed he was against Tinubu. He grudgingly and reluctantly endorsed Tinubu at the last minute. In 2027, it is possible that he would have remained neutral or endorsed the opposition so his death is not a blow
The mighty burial Tinubu gave him today has earned the admiration of many ardent buharists. Tinubu has the support of close family members like Aisha, Yusuf etc and this would buy more votes. Shettima is even more closer to buhari than El rufai

Akpakomiza2:
Divided between Tinubu, Atiku and any northerner PDP fields and kwankwaso if he contests. Oga, I thought by now you should know that Atiku can never sweep the north. 2023 answered all your questions. A northerner that loses the north to a southerner is useless sir. Atiku can win the north but never convincingly. He doesn't have the traits, capacity, popularity, personnel or machinery to do it. This is not something we should be arguing about sir.
Tinubu will always massacre obi in the north sir. Obi cannot even win NC, is it core north he can do well? Atiku and El rufai can deliver themselves, how will they deliver obi?
2027 is a free for all and Tinubu has the advantage whether you accept it or not

Atiku can never sweep the north?

You think the dynamics at play are still the same as 2023?

So you think with the mass hunger in the north, they will still thumbprint for Tinubu in 2027?

Okay na! Let’s wait

Okwyjesus:
I want ATIKU to get the ticket.

It will real battle if Obi agree to deputy.

Igbos and Northern alliance is always hard nut. 1979 Shagari/ Ekwueme reloaded

Obi should get the ticket.

And Obi can beat Tinubu. Don’t let their false narratives deceive you.

Penguin2:
Atiku can never sweep the north?

You think the dynamics at play are still the same as 2023?

So you think with the mass hunger in the north, they will still thumbprint for Tinubu in 2027?

Okay na! Let’s wait

They will sir. The north don't vote based on competence when it comes to presidency, it is always about ethnicity and religion and personality. The hunger started under buhari yet they voted him massively. Has Atiku done anything in his private capacity to salvage northern hunger among the Talakawa? You think they don't know.
The dynamics hasn't changed. Infact, Tinubu can even rig out Atiku up north without consequences. Even if Atiku miraculously sweeps the north, he will fail woefully down south.
2031, you will still come here to drum of how APC will lose

Akpakomiza2:
They will sir. The north don't vote based on competence when it comes to presidency, it is always about ethnicity and religion and personality. The hunger started under buhari yet they voted him massively. Has Atiku done anything in his private capacity to salvage northern hunger among the Talakawa? You think they don't know.
The dynamics hasn't changed. Infact, Tinubu can even rig out Atiku up north without consequences. Even if Atiku miraculously sweeps the north, he will fail woefully down south.
2031, you will still come here to drum of how APC will lose

You and I know that the masses of the north rarely decide on their own. The powerbrokers of the north decide and direct them where to vote.

Now, the question is, will the powerbrokers of the north stand with Tinubu in 2027?

Or the powerbrokers are now useless?

Or you think the masses of the north will decide on their own in 2027? And they will decide to vote Tinubu?

Penguin2:
You and I know that the masses of the north rarely decide on their own. The powerbrokers of the north decide and direct them where to vote.

Now, the question is, will the powerbrokers of the north stand with Tinubu in 2027?

Or the powerbrokers are now useless?

Or you think the masses of the north will decide on their own in 2027? And they will decide to vote Tinubu?

Some voters esp in North central and Christian core north are independent minded and Tinubu has swayed them. Most of the power brokers up north are with Tinubu sir. Just like in 2023, the north is divided. The power brokers know the turn of the north is 2031. Again, most of those northern politicians want to be president and atiku is on their path so why support him?

Akpakomiza2:
Some voters esp in North central and Christian core north are independent minded and Tinubu has swayed them. Most of the power brokers up north are with Tinubu sir. Just like in 2023, the north is divided. The power brokers know the turn of the north is 2031. Again, most of those northern politicians want to be president and atiku is on their path so why support him?

So, in the depth of your heart now, you believe Northern Christians (Benue, Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, etc) will go to the polls in 2027 and choose Tinubu over Obi?

Penguin2:
So, in the depth of your heart now, you believe Northern Christians (Benue, Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, etc) will go to the polls in 2027 and choose Tinubu over Obi?

Yes. The MM ticket fears has died down, Tinubu has showered them with heavy patronage. An average northern Christian just wants development and to be protected from jihadists. The only place that will be tough is plateau but muftwang is pro Tinubu

Penguin2:
I saw a very interesting comment on one of the threads in this forum where the commenter laughed at the coalition over Buhari’s death. According to the person, the coalition drivers will no longer be able to use Buhari.

It got me pondering on whose loss the death of Buhari truly is?

We can say arguably that Buhari’s posturing before the 2023 elections suggested that he didn’t want Tinubu to succeed him. But no one can deny the fact that Buhari has demonstrated unflinching support for Tinubu since INEC announced him.

More than once, in the heat of the biting effects of some of Tinubu’s policies, Buhari has issued statements in support of Tinubu.

When northern oligarchs, who would later become arrowheads of coalition, made Buhari’s Daura home a Mecca of sort, he issued a statement reasserting his loyalty and support to APC and Tinubu’s administration.

Now, knowing the moral force and support Buhari still commands in the north, I don’t need to tell any serious political watcher the weight those statements carried each time Buhari issued them.

Furthermore, there’s no denying that if Buhari was to still be here in 2027, he would still support Tinubu for re-election. No matter how bad his(Buhari) popularity has waned, we know the weight such endorsement would have carried for Tinubu.

Now, to coalition, I am still struggling to find how Buhari would have been of any use to the coalition as I don’t think he would have ever come out to openly support the coalition even if he’s remotely sympathetic to their course.

Hence my question, whose loss is Buhari’s death truly is?

I think President Tinubu has to re-strategise now because with President Buhari alive, he had his CPC deal intact. However, now that President Buhari is no more., that deal might have now dissappeared into thin air so most likely a rump of that party would be free agents.

It has made things more interesting for 2027, to answer your question, it is President Tinubu's loss, a pretty huge one

I mentioned it few years ago or months that the biggest politicians (in terms of fanbase and followership) in the north and south are Buhari and Peter Obi respectively.

With his demise

1. Buhari supporters are in the open, they are no longer loyal to him or apc
2. Atiku is officially the biggest politician from the north

End.

aswani:
I think President Tinubu has to re strategies now because with President Buhari alive, he had his CPC deal intact. However, now that President Buhari is no more., that deal might have now dissappeared into thin air so most likely a rump of that party would be free agents.

It has made things more interesting for 2027, to answer your question, it is President Tinubu's loss, a pretty huge one

I’m surprised to see you of all people actually admit that Buhari’s death is Tinubu’s loss while other of his supporters are trying to make themselves feel good by denying that fact.

The truth is that Buhari was the arrowhead of Tinubu’s northern support.

With Buhari gone now, I see no one else that can fill that void.

Felabrity:
I mentioned it few years ago or months that the biggest politicians (in terms of fanbase and followership) in the north and south are Buhari and Peter Obi respectively.

With his demise

1. Buhari supporters are in the open, they are no longer loyal to him or apc
2. Atiku is officially the biggest politician from the north

End.

You are right.

You remember the proverbial strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter? That’s what will happen to Buhari supporters.

Buhari was the shepherd of his supporters. Now he’s gone, it will be near impossible for them to speak with one voice ever again.

Akpakomiza2:
Yes. The MM ticket fears has died down, Tinubu has showered them with heavy patronage. An average northern Christian just wants development and to be protected from jihadists. The only place that will be tough is plateau but muftwang is pro Tinubu

And are they protected from jihadists now with the killings going on unabated almost on a daily basis?

Penguin2:
I’m surprised to see you of all people actually admit that Buhari’s death is Tinubu’s loss while other of his supporters are trying to make themselves feel good by denying that fact.

The truth is that Buhari was the arrowhead of Tinubu’s northern support.

With Buhari gone now, I see no one else that can fill that void.

I am not President Tinubu's supporter, I am a very neutral and interested observer of the ever changing Nigerian political landscape.

Things have changed, now to see how President Tinubu will react.

Penguin2:
And are they protected from jihadists now with the killings going on unabated almost on a daily basis?

Will it die down under obi or atiku

Akpakomiza2:
Will it die down under obi or atiku

They vote Obi to find out.

But Tinubu can no longer hoodwink them because he’s had 4 years to protect them but failed.

What will his excuse be?

Penguin2:
They vote Obi to find out.

But Tinubu can no longer hoodwink them because he’s had 4 years to protect them but failed.

What will his excuse be?

They won't obi sir. Even Dalung who is in ADC clearly said Tinubu has won over the northern Christians and he was pained about it.